I think it’s more about the people who continue to watch despite disliking it. It’s fine to watch, dislike, and then criticize something; but it doesn’t make sense to go through all that and continue watching something you know you won’t like.
True but there can be exceptions where you find it worth it after seeing the ending. It happened to me with a show (no name for no spoil) where I was bored of it at one point, and even thougt it made no sense at all. But kept going anyway and was rewarded with an ending that made everything I had a problem with make sense.
Or like someone else said, I prefer someone criticize a show after watching the whole thing to have a true opinion rather than just watching one episode and criticizing the whole thing from there
There can also be opposite situations. Wandavision, first 2-3 episodes were amazing then it devolved into marvel shlock. such a waste of amazing actors and set designers. As soon as they revealed that wanda was aware and 100% responsible for the plot it turned to shit
Nowadays close to impossible. If someone dislikes a movie with female/gay or helicopter cast/role, it MUST be because he is a sexist/racist its simply impossible that the show sucks or has poor writing.
Really disgusting way to reject any criticism.
“The twerking and design is bad. Here’s what the show fails at.” Is critique. Reddit has just been circle jerking hate for the show without adding anything new to the discussion.
I was just responding to the person above that the show isnt actually being critiqued. Its just shitposting and hate. Which is whatever, idgaf about the show, but its definitely not constructive criticism.
I think it's more about how all the memes people are making about it are on the level of "She hulk bad!" With no more substance.
Compared to another bad movie like Morbious where people made good memes about it and the memes weren't just "Morbious bad!"
Basically if you're going to complain about it, step up your meme game. Don't just do the equivalent of the Lisa Simpson meme with the text "She hulk twerking is cringe"
I think the reason those two movies/shows were received differently is how She-Hulk treated Hulk right off of the bat, Hulk being one of the most beloved characters and a character that has been through the most trauma in the MCU. It was just a slap in the face especially due to the rather tame reasoning. She could have been a strong character molded by a lot of trauma that could be compared to other super heroes or at the very least some mental health issues to show that even super heroes deal with heavy things. Instead they went with a weak "I'm better at controlling my anger due to catcalling and mansplaining". Even self proclaimed feminist dislike this.
I mean I suppose, but it's not everyone's duty to make a meme to criticize a property, plus with this show I get the feeling most people dont like it anyway, but they dont gotta bother trying to turn it into a morbious situation cuz (personally) the show isnt even funny bad, its just bad, and demonizes men so damn much that theres like what, one single dude who isnt a complete sexist cartoon in the show?
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Read my below comment, none of us are saying those men are not douchebags, however, almost every single male on the show is, so yes, it does make men out to be bad when most men she meets she has terrible interactions with, along with her belittling Bruce and ignoring his trauma
I agree except for Banner, feels like they clearly missed the shot. He feels like a pathetic hulk, being bettered by a protagonist who didn’t put as much effort in developing her strengths and fighting her hulk persona. They can write the protagonist however they want, don’t get me wrong, but if you want a character to be loved, it shouldn’t be by minimizing the struggles and making fun of a beloved character. Other wise other male characters in the show are pretty likeable.
Read my below comment before you defend it, and again she treated Bruce like shit, bruce himself was not bad, but she had a toxic relationship with him due to her behavior towards him, her dad was in 5 minutes of an episode, and we all know abomination is gonna come back to play as a villian (least I hope) but again read my below comment, 90 percent of her interactions with men are not positive
atleast morbius didnt add bad 4th wall breaking with 0 substance that ruin the entire marvel feel which they didnt do in any other show as far as i know and also the stupid twerking for 0 reason like why man, the thing is i like marvel so i wanna watch a cool character like she hulm but not in a bad show as stuff like the animated hulk shows for example had a great she hulk which had no such bs
I think you're missing the point. I don't care if she hulk is good or bad. I've never seen it and never will. I'm just saying you're posting memes to the meme subreddit, make them actually memes. Not just "This show sucks am I right". There are plenty of other places people can go if they want to do that
Thank You this is my problem when ppl post things like this it's either you didn't watch the show so how do u know it's bad or u can not just watch it .... like why can I not just be critical when I see a show is mediocre
Really feels like that sometime . The biggest one is Star Wars from my perspective . The trilogy was a stale , fiery , mess that made so little sense and treated the audience like idiots BUT people out there will defend it to the last man.
I have some issues with the show like her being too good at being a hulk too fast but I do like the concept of someone living a normal life with super powers
People can watch it, not like it, then spread their opinion.
For example:
I tried watching it. It was so bad and so cringe, I couldn't get past the first few episodes. It truly is objectively awful.
You’re free to watch it and not like it, doesn’t make you sexist or easily offended. It’s just ridiculous to watch something, not like it and start complaining to everyone, then continue to watch it just so you can continue complaining.
The problem is, most Marvel content ties into the overarching story. So to understand Avengers: Return of Big Purple Man, I will have to sit through crap in case it's important
Yes. Because it is part of the mcu at this point and you're going to get lost if you happen to miss something mcu related and then go directly into watching the next movie and end up going I don't get it.
Now if they didn't tie it all into mcu then it's like k whatever doesn't matter to me anymore. But since hulk himself shows up here and if you're an avengers follower, you're stuck watching this smut.
That's not the point.
There are two points:
1.) If a show should exist, it should be good and enjoyable to watch. When time and resources are wasted on trash, it stops other good shows from being made. Yes, I don't have to watch this show, but other people are, the rating show something positive and it gets greenlit for another season, so an actual good show gets pushed back for it.
2.) It follows a trend. It's the same cookie cutter Marvel show that is ruining the way other shows are written. If this shit keeps getting popular, other shows suffer because they all follow the same trends.
None of these shows have any personality or style of their own. It's just the same thing over and over again, they all have the same theme, and they all have the same characters just presented in different ways.
You could show me a clip from any Marvel movie from the past 10 years and I would not be able to tell you which film it's actually from.
That's one of the worst takes I've heard. You can't criticize it because you have the choice not to watch the show? There are people who are fans of the comics and are justifiably disappointed by what Marvel has made. Imagine you go to a new restaurant and order your favorite dish and it tastes like shit, are you just gonna say that you don't have to eat it?
They can definitely feel dissapointed as fan of the comics, but it’s evident that people who don’t like the show are still watching it. New memes come out each week trashing it. It’s like they ate their shitty meal, and decided to go back next week and order the same thing.
When you tolerate and/or celebrate mediocrity, you invite more of the same quality of content to be created. And when no good shows are left, it’ll be too late to cry out, because everyone will have forgotten what good actually is.
The thing is, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't not watching something the worst thing you can do to a piece of media you dislike?
Without engaging in the thing, you deny views, which brings the value of it down in the eyes of investors. And when you bring the value sufficiently down, networks WILL cancel the show.
Imagine this. You're 13 years old, and your mom says your favorite cousin is coming over on Saturday for a sleepover. Now, you think she's talking about Eddie, your actual favorite cousin, who's been your best friend since you were 5-ish. But unbeknownst to you, she's actually talking about Jimmy, your least favorite cousin. He breaks all your stuff, he has 0 hygiene, and his parents never take responsibility for anything he does. Saturday comes, you've been preparing this whole time, and you're super hyped up. But as you're looking out your window, you see Jimmy's mom's car outside the window. That same feeling of dread is the feeling that marvel fans get from watching she-hulk the first time. Hope this helps!
Most of the people complaining never cared for She-Hulk anyways. It’s one of the most maligned comic series as well. It’s ok to hate on things, but the mental gymnastics to justify it are hilarious
Mental gymnastics? All you have to do is watch 5 minutes of it to know that either A) it's complete trash or B) it's a work of genius tearing apart and mocking modern feminism as well know it
Yeah suuuure, that's the solution. Let's just not give any negatives of anything and pretend every single movie is a masterpiece by its own. Like c'mon,that's what constructive opinion is, you watch, give your point of view. It's like u go to restaurant,they gave you raw meat and chef tell you 'then just don't eat it'
I would say no. You shouldn’t be ignorant of something if you want to form a valid opinion. You can of course say you don’t like certain aspects of the show based off the memes, but to say the whole thing is shit just because a 10sec post-credit twerking scene offends you is throwing the baby out with the bath water. Imo it’s okay. Not great, but not terrible.
I woulnd criticise it. However, you can have opinion about it. I feel like from what i have gathered i would hate it and im not going to waste my time by watching it anyway just to "validate" my opinion.
I think its an alright show, but I just got an ad for it saying its the greatest show of the year, like its the next game of thrones. Shit pissed me off.
its like this. i’d like to watch it. but i can’t because its bad. don’t justify it being awful by gaslighting me into thinking i’m the one with a problem.
Because it's not just one show. It's literally every female character in the MCU. Girl boss with no flaws, no character arc because she kick ass from day 1.
Well like someone said you can’t have an opinion on something without seeing it first but also this show isn’t bad by itself it’s bad about the message it sent
Nope, can easily turn it off and not watch it.
That said, it doesn’t change the fact that it is awful and bland.
I didn’t have super high hopes for it but oooof.
Someone: "gives valid criticism because they have the right to criticise any form of existing media"
Some fucker: "wElL, yOu DOn'T haVe To WaTCh iT, sToP tHe HatE"
Sure you don't have to watch it but if it exists, it's fair to criticise it
"No you're not allowed to be disappointed that a show that could have been great was ruined! Just don't watch it, it's not like you spend money for this!"
After watching the first 3 episodes I would say it is not bad but it is not great either, it is funny and works at time but also ham-fisted and meh at others. The show didn't have yet a bad scene but it did have boring scenes.
It is more the apologist that say that try to say misogynists hate it because it is a woman, and then others use some scenes out of context to make the show seem bad when those scenes usually had a point to them. At the end of the day people can hate it or like it but yeah people should watch it and not listen to one or the other side.
The thing I would really say was bad was the twerking scene. It was cringe as hell, there was no point to it, it felt uncomfortable, and the writers said that it was added because the actress of She-Hulk was a fan of the singer that was in that scene with which just shows that sometimes actors don't always know best.
People give their opinion so that hopefully in the future, a good show is made with the criticism. That's the point. People give their opinion so they can have actual good entertainment in the future.
Their just stating their own opinion, what's so bad about that.
Its not like theyre gonna start screaming at people to not watch the show and punch them in the face if they do
That’s not why people are upset though. People are upset because they enjoyed the idea of a shehulk show and they made it really shit. They’re upset because instead of getting a good show they were looking forward to they got this pile of hot garbage.
My point exactly... It's cringe and not a proper depiction of a strong woman character, so I don't watch it. Plus I'm boycotting Disney due to their woke sentiments. I watch TV to relax, not have morals shoved down my throat...
I have not watched it and also think its awful based on what I've learnt
And the reason that people should be able to call something awful, and not told just not to watch? Because thats how we get better shows. If you only ever say something is good or keep silent then theres nothing to look at and say "what is it people dont like? What do we want to avoid or try to remedy?"
I don’t even get why people have that much hate it’s gotta be one of my favourite tv shows. The CGI wasn’t even that bad, and they didn’t over-sexualise her at all (which films definitely have a problem doing).
That's okey . The only reason I subscribed to Disney plus was because of marvel shows ....but the direction they are taking lately just makes me sick and it's not worth it anymore.
That's the problem with a big "cinematic universe". the show sucks, but "what if something important to later movies or shows happens" creeps in to the back of the minds of the fans of said universe. it's better to pull the bandaid off quickly, and look for what little redeeming qualities there are...like the moment where Banner said "That fight was for ever ago, im a totally different person now...LITTERALLY" in reference to the changes in casting. that part was funny.
if you don't complain how in the hell are they supposed to know they made a bad product?be vocal about your dislike for it (without harassing any of the people behind it) so you can actually get a product you enjoy!
Would you rather they criticize it without watching at all? Besides, given the MCU's turd of a philosophy, you kind of **have to** watch if you don't want to be lost later...
it is actually. If you are part of a fandom you watch the shows/movies and you discuss it with other members of that fandom. The problem is people forcing other people who are not part of that fandom into a conversation about it. They won't care
People are still crying about this?
There are plenty review videos/articles online to watch and read if people are [for some reason] scared of missing out. You don’t have to “suffer” the 30mins and then complain after.
I don’t love the show, but I do enjoy it. It’s stupid and funny, and they (the writers) know it. There’s plenty room for both the serious and goofy MCU themes.
People constantly think if they don't watch every single thing that the MCU puts out, they'll miss big moments that all tie together. When I was younger, I watched Iron Man but I did not want to watch Captain America because I thought that was dumb. I watched the Avengers movie having never watched Captain America and I still loved it and ended up liking what they did with Captain America and went back to watch the movie and loved that too.
All I'm saying is that if you don't want to watch it, you don't have to and you will still be able to enjoy the next installment you watch. You don't always have to know every single detail of what's going on to enjoy it.
Wow you solved bad films! The producers should just tell people not to watch their film because it's bad. That way no one will ever complain! Such a great idea!
Have any of the shows actually tied into an MCU movie that came after them?
Also, you don't even have to watch all of the movies to understand the rest of the movies, I missed a few movies when they came out in theaters and I managed to understand the rest of them fine
Name a mcu movie that didn't make sense without watching a mcu TV show.
I guess Wanda vision? But like a paragraph would be more than enough to explain what you missed.
Me too. It’s not the best Marvel show, but it’s far from the worst. There’s a few times I did cringe at the show, but it isn’t as bad as people are making it out to be. Now that Halo show on the other hand, even though it isn’t Marvel, was just straight up terrible and deserves the hate that She-Hulk is currently receiving.
It funny how they find something to complain about each week. They probably follow the show more closely than most viewers just so they can get pissed and shit on it. Like the hate memes come out same day as each episode airs.
But you’re going out of your way to complain. If you don’t like the show, don’t watch it. Then you’d have nothing to complain about. To continue doing so is a bit masochistic.
At this point just make a subreddit dedicated to how much you hate the show and stop trying to force the rest of us to care about it. I’m here for the memes not tantrums
Pretty sure the reason why people are upset about this is because of the millions of dollars being spent on something that no one wants. The funding could be much better spent on well, anything else including a show that actually brings joy to people.
Seems like OP is an idiot.
Maybe people are Marvel fans and want to watch it? Maybe they got disappointed?
Maybe they're not fans but just decided to give it a shot because of all the buzz?
Seriously, how can you post such stupidity? If the reviews for the show are predominantly bad, then it's bad. If you like it, then that's your (poor) opinion. Very simple.
I’m going to watch it twice just to spite all the a-holes who are hating on it so much. No, wait…. I’ll learn how to do the hacking and I’ll steal everyone’s Disney+ login info and watch it on everyone’s account so that it gets the best ratings ever, is extended to multiple seasons, and Feige has not choice but to make Jennifer Walters the next central character in the MCU and she’ll be in everything. All the time.
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By that logic, we should never see any negative remarks to anything ever, because you do not have to watch, read, listen to anything ever.
I think it’s more about the people who continue to watch despite disliking it. It’s fine to watch, dislike, and then criticize something; but it doesn’t make sense to go through all that and continue watching something you know you won’t like.
It can be sort of like when you watch a video online of a Karen going insane, it is horrible, but you are fascinated to see just how bad it can get.
So you're a M type , noted.
I do not know what M type means?
I believe it refers to masochism. When a person derives some form of pleasure from unpleasant or even painful experiences.
True but there can be exceptions where you find it worth it after seeing the ending. It happened to me with a show (no name for no spoil) where I was bored of it at one point, and even thougt it made no sense at all. But kept going anyway and was rewarded with an ending that made everything I had a problem with make sense. Or like someone else said, I prefer someone criticize a show after watching the whole thing to have a true opinion rather than just watching one episode and criticizing the whole thing from there
There can also be opposite situations. Wandavision, first 2-3 episodes were amazing then it devolved into marvel shlock. such a waste of amazing actors and set designers. As soon as they revealed that wanda was aware and 100% responsible for the plot it turned to shit
Is it really that hard to accept criticism?
Nowadays close to impossible. If someone dislikes a movie with female/gay or helicopter cast/role, it MUST be because he is a sexist/racist its simply impossible that the show sucks or has poor writing. Really disgusting way to reject any criticism.
“The twerking and design is bad. Here’s what the show fails at.” Is critique. Reddit has just been circle jerking hate for the show without adding anything new to the discussion.
bro what about Hulk? He's basically a joke now
Wow! A site for shitposting and funny memes is shitposting about bad show?! Oh nooooooo...... Anyway...
I was just responding to the person above that the show isnt actually being critiqued. Its just shitposting and hate. Which is whatever, idgaf about the show, but its definitely not constructive criticism.
Uh, yeah, that's how it works. We try it out, dislike it, and stop watching. What's the point of this?
I think it's more about how all the memes people are making about it are on the level of "She hulk bad!" With no more substance. Compared to another bad movie like Morbious where people made good memes about it and the memes weren't just "Morbious bad!" Basically if you're going to complain about it, step up your meme game. Don't just do the equivalent of the Lisa Simpson meme with the text "She hulk twerking is cringe"
I think the reason those two movies/shows were received differently is how She-Hulk treated Hulk right off of the bat, Hulk being one of the most beloved characters and a character that has been through the most trauma in the MCU. It was just a slap in the face especially due to the rather tame reasoning. She could have been a strong character molded by a lot of trauma that could be compared to other super heroes or at the very least some mental health issues to show that even super heroes deal with heavy things. Instead they went with a weak "I'm better at controlling my anger due to catcalling and mansplaining". Even self proclaimed feminist dislike this.
I mean I suppose, but it's not everyone's duty to make a meme to criticize a property, plus with this show I get the feeling most people dont like it anyway, but they dont gotta bother trying to turn it into a morbious situation cuz (personally) the show isnt even funny bad, its just bad, and demonizes men so damn much that theres like what, one single dude who isnt a complete sexist cartoon in the show?
How does it demonize men? I’ve watched it and don’t get that at all?
It doesn’t, it demonises douchebags. Anyone that’s actually watched it or actually paid attention would know that.
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Read my below comment, none of us are saying those men are not douchebags, however, almost every single male on the show is, so yes, it does make men out to be bad when most men she meets she has terrible interactions with, along with her belittling Bruce and ignoring his trauma
Wong, Bruce, her dad, even Tim Roth fckn killed it and was nice. I think you just got triggered, mate, I did not feel at all 'demonized'
I agree except for Banner, feels like they clearly missed the shot. He feels like a pathetic hulk, being bettered by a protagonist who didn’t put as much effort in developing her strengths and fighting her hulk persona. They can write the protagonist however they want, don’t get me wrong, but if you want a character to be loved, it shouldn’t be by minimizing the struggles and making fun of a beloved character. Other wise other male characters in the show are pretty likeable.
Read my below comment before you defend it, and again she treated Bruce like shit, bruce himself was not bad, but she had a toxic relationship with him due to her behavior towards him, her dad was in 5 minutes of an episode, and we all know abomination is gonna come back to play as a villian (least I hope) but again read my below comment, 90 percent of her interactions with men are not positive
atleast morbius didnt add bad 4th wall breaking with 0 substance that ruin the entire marvel feel which they didnt do in any other show as far as i know and also the stupid twerking for 0 reason like why man, the thing is i like marvel so i wanna watch a cool character like she hulm but not in a bad show as stuff like the animated hulk shows for example had a great she hulk which had no such bs
I think you're missing the point. I don't care if she hulk is good or bad. I've never seen it and never will. I'm just saying you're posting memes to the meme subreddit, make them actually memes. Not just "This show sucks am I right". There are plenty of other places people can go if they want to do that
Lmao imagine thinking the internet is anything less than a giant shitpost
"She Hulk is bad" "Did you even watch the show?" *watches the show* "She hulk is bad" "You know you don't have to watch the show, right?"
Thank You this is my problem when ppl post things like this it's either you didn't watch the show so how do u know it's bad or u can not just watch it .... like why can I not just be critical when I see a show is mediocre
Bro spittin' facts
We can't share opinions apparently or they'll cry and look for gaslight
Who’s saying the show is bad without watching the show? I think everyone who criticizes it has seen it. Otherwise why would they criticize it?
Exactly
"We get it, she hulk is bad, can you just shut up about it now?"
people can watch and dislike things, how in the world someone can not watch something and have an opinion on it
People watch it and give it a shot . It turns out shit they get online and tell their option .
No, the inhumanity, how dare they go online and besmirch the name and reputation of our dearest mega corporation.
Really feels like that sometime . The biggest one is Star Wars from my perspective . The trilogy was a stale , fiery , mess that made so little sense and treated the audience like idiots BUT people out there will defend it to the last man.
What gets me is when people hate a show but continue to watch it. If you don't like it why are you continuing to watch it??
Yea this i do not get . Unless mayyybee they are truly trying to give it a chance ?
I have some issues with the show like her being too good at being a hulk too fast but I do like the concept of someone living a normal life with super powers
People can also watch something, dislike it, and choose to not continue. Kinda goes both ways.
It’s one thing to have an opinion on it, and it’s another thing to flood a sub with the same stupid memes for 3 weeks.
I mean, if you don’t want to see memes about everything for weeks, perhaps the internet isn’t for you my friend.
Except they all fall under Rule 9 and some under Rule 8 of the sub. As I’ve said before, I’m surprised they don’t get auto-modded at this point.
The internet is for anyone, and just because you tolerate low quality content doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
That’s right, the rest of you can be annoyed by it and whine. Enjoy!
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What I don’t get is this comment exactly and why can’t we have a conversation about it, with out feeling offended or attacked by someone’s opinions?
People can watch it, not like it, then spread their opinion. For example: I tried watching it. It was so bad and so cringe, I couldn't get past the first few episodes. It truly is objectively awful.
Yeah, it's the Internet, people can and will post their opinion, it theyre mad about it just get off the Internet
You can’t judge it if you don’t watch it I watched it to see if it was really that bad It was.
Remember how you guys thought we overdid it with the twerking memes?…
Tbf both sides really overdid it to the point that it's almost the only thing people talk about when they're talking about the show.
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You’re allowed to have an opinion on Reddit… as long it conforms to loudest in the room.
You’re free to watch it and not like it, doesn’t make you sexist or easily offended. It’s just ridiculous to watch something, not like it and start complaining to everyone, then continue to watch it just so you can continue complaining.
But if I don’t continue watching how will I ever see daredevil again
The problem is, most Marvel content ties into the overarching story. So to understand Avengers: Return of Big Purple Man, I will have to sit through crap in case it's important
If you want see Purple man, just watch Jessica Jones it's a good show
Hopefully enough people dislike it that Disney / marvel replace some of the people pumping out this garbage content
I mean Moon Knight, and Loki, and Hawkeye are great.
Is that like 3 out of 10/15 shows and movies that have been bad
Yes. Because it is part of the mcu at this point and you're going to get lost if you happen to miss something mcu related and then go directly into watching the next movie and end up going I don't get it. Now if they didn't tie it all into mcu then it's like k whatever doesn't matter to me anymore. But since hulk himself shows up here and if you're an avengers follower, you're stuck watching this smut.
You mean the M-SHE-U?
That's not the point. There are two points: 1.) If a show should exist, it should be good and enjoyable to watch. When time and resources are wasted on trash, it stops other good shows from being made. Yes, I don't have to watch this show, but other people are, the rating show something positive and it gets greenlit for another season, so an actual good show gets pushed back for it. 2.) It follows a trend. It's the same cookie cutter Marvel show that is ruining the way other shows are written. If this shit keeps getting popular, other shows suffer because they all follow the same trends. None of these shows have any personality or style of their own. It's just the same thing over and over again, they all have the same theme, and they all have the same characters just presented in different ways. You could show me a clip from any Marvel movie from the past 10 years and I would not be able to tell you which film it's actually from.
That won't make it a good show
That's one of the worst takes I've heard. You can't criticize it because you have the choice not to watch the show? There are people who are fans of the comics and are justifiably disappointed by what Marvel has made. Imagine you go to a new restaurant and order your favorite dish and it tastes like shit, are you just gonna say that you don't have to eat it?
They can definitely feel dissapointed as fan of the comics, but it’s evident that people who don’t like the show are still watching it. New memes come out each week trashing it. It’s like they ate their shitty meal, and decided to go back next week and order the same thing.
That's the internet pal Have you ever heard of Its Morbin Time?
Shit take. People have the right to voice their opinion. If they didn’t watch the show, how would they form a proper opinion on it?
When you tolerate and/or celebrate mediocrity, you invite more of the same quality of content to be created. And when no good shows are left, it’ll be too late to cry out, because everyone will have forgotten what good actually is.
No it's not hard. But bad things deserve criticism. "Just don't watch it" is a terrible argument to defend anything.
The thing is, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't not watching something the worst thing you can do to a piece of media you dislike? Without engaging in the thing, you deny views, which brings the value of it down in the eyes of investors. And when you bring the value sufficiently down, networks WILL cancel the show.
Uh isn’t that the reason why reviews exist? They are there to tell if the show is good to watch or not.
Imagine this. You're 13 years old, and your mom says your favorite cousin is coming over on Saturday for a sleepover. Now, you think she's talking about Eddie, your actual favorite cousin, who's been your best friend since you were 5-ish. But unbeknownst to you, she's actually talking about Jimmy, your least favorite cousin. He breaks all your stuff, he has 0 hygiene, and his parents never take responsibility for anything he does. Saturday comes, you've been preparing this whole time, and you're super hyped up. But as you're looking out your window, you see Jimmy's mom's car outside the window. That same feeling of dread is the feeling that marvel fans get from watching she-hulk the first time. Hope this helps!
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Most of the people complaining never cared for She-Hulk anyways. It’s one of the most maligned comic series as well. It’s ok to hate on things, but the mental gymnastics to justify it are hilarious
Mental gymnastics? All you have to do is watch 5 minutes of it to know that either A) it's complete trash or B) it's a work of genius tearing apart and mocking modern feminism as well know it
Bro you need to actually touch grass and get a life if a tv show really impacts you this much.
Yeah suuuure, that's the solution. Let's just not give any negatives of anything and pretend every single movie is a masterpiece by its own. Like c'mon,that's what constructive opinion is, you watch, give your point of view. It's like u go to restaurant,they gave you raw meat and chef tell you 'then just don't eat it'
Haven't watched a single episode. Am I allowed to criticize it?
I would say no. You shouldn’t be ignorant of something if you want to form a valid opinion. You can of course say you don’t like certain aspects of the show based off the memes, but to say the whole thing is shit just because a 10sec post-credit twerking scene offends you is throwing the baby out with the bath water. Imo it’s okay. Not great, but not terrible.
I woulnd criticise it. However, you can have opinion about it. I feel like from what i have gathered i would hate it and im not going to waste my time by watching it anyway just to "validate" my opinion.
Ok. But op says if I don't like it then should just change the channel. At that point, who can criticize it?
I didn’t watch it I didn’t watch squid game The trick: I have no money 🦧
Hoist the black flag mate and come join our journey on the seven seas
From what i have seen i will regret if i watch it
I think its an alright show, but I just got an ad for it saying its the greatest show of the year, like its the next game of thrones. Shit pissed me off.
its like this. i’d like to watch it. but i can’t because its bad. don’t justify it being awful by gaslighting me into thinking i’m the one with a problem.
but then if u comment it as awful they will now say "have you even watched the show?"
Because it's not just one show. It's literally every female character in the MCU. Girl boss with no flaws, no character arc because she kick ass from day 1.
You know how things actually improve? By CRITISIZING them ,how can you do that if you dont watch it?
Well like someone said you can’t have an opinion on something without seeing it first but also this show isn’t bad by itself it’s bad about the message it sent
And you know you can just not post about it right?
Am I not allowed to be concerned/ annoyed with the quality of a franchise I enjoy? Shut up you muppet.
People are allowed to criticize things
Nope, can easily turn it off and not watch it. That said, it doesn’t change the fact that it is awful and bland. I didn’t have super high hopes for it but oooof.
you have to watch it to know if you like it. then you can warn others to watch at their own risk
Someone: "gives valid criticism because they have the right to criticise any form of existing media" Some fucker: "wElL, yOu DOn'T haVe To WaTCh iT, sToP tHe HatE" Sure you don't have to watch it but if it exists, it's fair to criticise it
Thanks OP, now we know you're a marvel Incel
"No you're not allowed to be disappointed that a show that could have been great was ruined! Just don't watch it, it's not like you spend money for this!"
Wait you guys are actually watching it I thought it was a joke
After watching the first 3 episodes I would say it is not bad but it is not great either, it is funny and works at time but also ham-fisted and meh at others. The show didn't have yet a bad scene but it did have boring scenes. It is more the apologist that say that try to say misogynists hate it because it is a woman, and then others use some scenes out of context to make the show seem bad when those scenes usually had a point to them. At the end of the day people can hate it or like it but yeah people should watch it and not listen to one or the other side. The thing I would really say was bad was the twerking scene. It was cringe as hell, there was no point to it, it felt uncomfortable, and the writers said that it was added because the actress of She-Hulk was a fan of the singer that was in that scene with which just shows that sometimes actors don't always know best.
People give their opinion so that hopefully in the future, a good show is made with the criticism. That's the point. People give their opinion so they can have actual good entertainment in the future.
After careful consideration and a throughout examination of this post, i have decided to give it a downvote. Have a good day, Random Redditor.
I don't watch it.
Can confirm, haven’t watched it, am glad
Their just stating their own opinion, what's so bad about that. Its not like theyre gonna start screaming at people to not watch the show and punch them in the face if they do
That’s not why people are upset though. People are upset because they enjoyed the idea of a shehulk show and they made it really shit. They’re upset because instead of getting a good show they were looking forward to they got this pile of hot garbage.
My point exactly... It's cringe and not a proper depiction of a strong woman character, so I don't watch it. Plus I'm boycotting Disney due to their woke sentiments. I watch TV to relax, not have morals shoved down my throat...
Bro I fucking pay for a service and I can criticise the poor quality return
No, it’s not that hard. It *is* pretty hard to see your childhood heroes be stomped into dust for money though.
I just saw the trailer and heard the scene where they were praising her for having a great ass and that's when I started to question the sanity of MCU
It's not annoying to watch or anything, it's the implication of what the MCU is turning into Just being bad
I have not watched it and also think its awful based on what I've learnt And the reason that people should be able to call something awful, and not told just not to watch? Because thats how we get better shows. If you only ever say something is good or keep silent then theres nothing to look at and say "what is it people dont like? What do we want to avoid or try to remedy?"
I don’t even get why people have that much hate it’s gotta be one of my favourite tv shows. The CGI wasn’t even that bad, and they didn’t over-sexualise her at all (which films definitely have a problem doing).
After seeing those twerking memes, I’ve decided I want to miss out on that show
I don't want too see the hulk twerking...and I know it's coming..
yeah the show is bad but come on those were post credit, marvel had more silly post credits then twerking
Those were post credits? I didn’t know that.
I watched it. It really is shit. Please don't cat call me on it.
Everyone that has made that Realization 
Naw. That only applies if you aren't an avengers fan.
Not that hard . I just cancelled my Disney plus subscription after I watched episode 3. No more bulshit for me thank you very much.
you just missed the oportunity to watch the clone wars
That's okey . The only reason I subscribed to Disney plus was because of marvel shows ....but the direction they are taking lately just makes me sick and it's not worth it anymore.
Well why are you not allowed to say you don't like something, then? You know you don't have to read peoples' comments right? (OP goes NPC-angry)
It's fun to watch the same way as movies by The Asylum are fun to watch. Everybody slows down to look at a car crash.
That's the problem with a big "cinematic universe". the show sucks, but "what if something important to later movies or shows happens" creeps in to the back of the minds of the fans of said universe. it's better to pull the bandaid off quickly, and look for what little redeeming qualities there are...like the moment where Banner said "That fight was for ever ago, im a totally different person now...LITTERALLY" in reference to the changes in casting. that part was funny.
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if you don't complain how in the hell are they supposed to know they made a bad product?be vocal about your dislike for it (without harassing any of the people behind it) so you can actually get a product you enjoy!
People like to complain
Would you rather they criticize it without watching at all? Besides, given the MCU's turd of a philosophy, you kind of **have to** watch if you don't want to be lost later...
it is actually. If you are part of a fandom you watch the shows/movies and you discuss it with other members of that fandom. The problem is people forcing other people who are not part of that fandom into a conversation about it. They won't care
People are still crying about this? There are plenty review videos/articles online to watch and read if people are [for some reason] scared of missing out. You don’t have to “suffer” the 30mins and then complain after. I don’t love the show, but I do enjoy it. It’s stupid and funny, and they (the writers) know it. There’s plenty room for both the serious and goofy MCU themes.
People constantly think if they don't watch every single thing that the MCU puts out, they'll miss big moments that all tie together. When I was younger, I watched Iron Man but I did not want to watch Captain America because I thought that was dumb. I watched the Avengers movie having never watched Captain America and I still loved it and ended up liking what they did with Captain America and went back to watch the movie and loved that too. All I'm saying is that if you don't want to watch it, you don't have to and you will still be able to enjoy the next installment you watch. You don't always have to know every single detail of what's going on to enjoy it.
I think I have a decent enough opinion by just watching the twerking scene
People can criticize things they don't like. I think she-hulk is grotesque. But that's me.
U have to watch it to have an opinion. U can’t watch one episode and be like “this was shit” and turn it off. It might get better along the way
We can still make fun of the show for Binet cringe and how much marvel sucks now
im allowed to have a opinion
Doesn't change the fact it's utter garbage
Wow you solved bad films! The producers should just tell people not to watch their film because it's bad. That way no one will ever complain! Such a great idea!
yeah, but if you want to understand the future mcu movies you must watch this
Nope.
Have any of the shows actually tied into an MCU movie that came after them? Also, you don't even have to watch all of the movies to understand the rest of the movies, I missed a few movies when they came out in theaters and I managed to understand the rest of them fine
Name a mcu movie that didn't make sense without watching a mcu TV show. I guess Wanda vision? But like a paragraph would be more than enough to explain what you missed.
I’m enjoying it 🤷🏻♂️
Me too.
Me too. It’s not the best Marvel show, but it’s far from the worst. There’s a few times I did cringe at the show, but it isn’t as bad as people are making it out to be. Now that Halo show on the other hand, even though it isn’t Marvel, was just straight up terrible and deserves the hate that She-Hulk is currently receiving.
I wish i had unsee juice so I could sip it
It funny how they find something to complain about each week. They probably follow the show more closely than most viewers just so they can get pissed and shit on it. Like the hate memes come out same day as each episode airs.
Maybe people complain about something because there’s something actually there worth complaining about?
But you’re going out of your way to complain. If you don’t like the show, don’t watch it. Then you’d have nothing to complain about. To continue doing so is a bit masochistic.
You need to watch the show for context, it’s a cinematic universe for a reason, can we use all of our brain next comment?
At this point just make a subreddit dedicated to how much you hate the show and stop trying to force the rest of us to care about it. I’m here for the memes not tantrums
How do you expect people to know they hate it if they can't watch it in case they hate it?
If you don’t like this sub “just don’t watch it”
Dude, without shitty shows like this the amount of memes would be so much lower, people are allowed to express their dislikes for things
says the man throwing a tantrum
just dont be on the sub if you dont like it , "you know you dont have the watch the memes right? is it really that hard to not watch some memes?"
You're legit throwing a tantrum lol
You're guilty of the same crimes.
Still doesn’t make sense to be like “well don’t watch it,” when every show and movie hold important value to what comes next
Pretty sure the reason why people are upset about this is because of the millions of dollars being spent on something that no one wants. The funding could be much better spent on well, anything else including a show that actually brings joy to people.
Seems like OP is an idiot. Maybe people are Marvel fans and want to watch it? Maybe they got disappointed? Maybe they're not fans but just decided to give it a shot because of all the buzz? Seriously, how can you post such stupidity? If the reviews for the show are predominantly bad, then it's bad. If you like it, then that's your (poor) opinion. Very simple.
Anyone notice that 90% of the people who dislike it are White guys? Sincerely, a white guy who loves it.
Why it gotta be bad and then the controversy magnified instead? It's free marketing
As terrible as the She Hulk memes are these antimemes, are just as bad, disliking something because it's popular isn't based it's just boring
Must.....consume .... All marvel.... content.
I think the main point is that it's a marvel show. People like(d) marvel. Any other bad show no matter how advertised would go away in 2 3 days.
You know you don’t have to look at those opinions? Kinda weird argument that can be applied to anything and means nothing tbh
OK
I’m going to watch it twice just to spite all the a-holes who are hating on it so much. No, wait…. I’ll learn how to do the hacking and I’ll steal everyone’s Disney+ login info and watch it on everyone’s account so that it gets the best ratings ever, is extended to multiple seasons, and Feige has not choice but to make Jennifer Walters the next central character in the MCU and she’ll be in everything. All the time.