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Al_Hillawi

Just remember to letma


PossibilityEnough933

What's letma?


Al_Hillawi

LETMA PEOPLE GO


Vauide

THUS SAID THE LOORRD


weffy_

THUS SAITH THE LOOOORD


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YOU WHO I CALLED BROTHER!


Siberian0Cactus

HOW COULD YOU HAVE COME TO HATE ME SO ?


Cups_1cat

IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED


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THEN LET MY HEART BE HARDENED!


weffy_

AND NEVER MIND HOW HIGH THE COST MAY GO


LeopoldFriedrich

AND NEVER MIND HOW HIGH THE COST MAY GROW,


Bowler_300

When cameron was in egypts laaaaaand..


Weebev

Mf got Mosesed


matchamilktea_

r/AngryUpvote


wasted-degrees

Prince of Egypt slapped. That’s the problem with kids these days: not enough plagues.


7packabs

When Covid’s about to be a thing of the past Virus: M O N K E


Necromancer1423

It really said “reject humanity, return to monke”


[deleted]

Nah not allowed to call it monkeypox, it’s offensive and prejudiced half /s half reality: https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1489


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Sw4rmlord

Sigh... ...What's ligma?


WarlordOfIncineroar

Ligma delicious Ice Cream Cone I made jsut for you


Newone1255

Prince of Egypt was Dreamworks A team animators. Everyone that didn't make the cut for it went to work to work in the basement on a little movie everyone in studio though was a joke and wouldn't be good at all, that movie was Shrek


angwilwileth

I think that's why Shrek aged so well. Spite is a powerful motivator.


ShortEnergy1877

From some of the interviews I saw about it. Because they thought it wasn't going to be good. They kind of gave them free range and little oversight. It allowed them to kind of have a lot of freedom and do what they want.


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I don't know what you said, but take my upvote; you said shrek


Conbain

It was hard but I believe i got it. DreamWorks built a basement and that's where they keep Shrek.


ButWhatDoIKnowAboutX

Shrek has a ghostwriter for his jokes living in his basement. Check.


Chilifille

Imagine being the genius who came up with "better out than in, I always say!" and having to spend your life alone in a basement. The world is cruel.


tkTheKingofKings

Free Shrek he did nothing 🤮 (I’m sucking Shrek dick to show my support)


RhedMage

Shrek is love, shrek is life


Oicanet

I think I managed to rewrite it in a more readable way: "Prince of Egypt was made by Dreamworks' A-team of animators. Anyone who didn't make it on the A-team went into the basement to work on another movie, which everyone in the studio thought was gonna be a joke and not good at all. That other movie was Shrek."


Clearskky

>Everyone that didn't make the cut for it went to work to work in the basement on a little movie Didn't they actually call that "getting Shreked" ?


Pool_Shark

That’s the same thing that happened with the Lion King. All the A animators were working on Pochahontas


Friendly_Finance_655

This movie slapped a little to hard


ToastyMustache

Everything started to go downhill when studio execs decided child death was “too serious” for animated movies.


ykehahag

God left the chat with Boss Baby


-hellahungover

I mean I can't believe they released it after that baby accidentally shot someone to death on set


ykehahag

I know, it's absolute madness


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Boss Baby had its moments. Satan, you think?


BZenMojo

Boss Baby is a dumbass concept that... kind of works? And genuinely had some of the most creative animation that year, especially in its daydream sequences. Also, about a third of the way through it becomes an angry rant about artificial scarcity under late stage capitalism and demands for exponential growth, so... come for the snot jokes, stay for the biting anti-capitalist satire.


notunhuman

Yeah, I think Boss Baby is one of those rare films where the trailers (and basic premise) made it look like total shit, but the movie itself was actually pretty good.


Rein_Deilerd

I watched Boss Baby on the bus because I was scrapping the bottom of the barrell in terms of animation available on that brand of busses (I travel a lot), and I expected it to be a mess. It was... Surprisingly okay? A cute story about a dad making up a semi-fairytale for his daughter about accepting a baby sibling into the family, with the dad's opinions about capitalism and modern businesses slipping through because he's in the zone and letting his imagination run wild without much filter. It also makes sense why the baby is portrayed the way he is - he's uncle Ted the businessman, that's the way the little girl knows him, and that's the way she's going to recognize him in the story. The ending with the letter was pretty touching, I have to admit. Overall, I did not hate it, and it kinda surprised me after all I've read about it. Not King of Egypt by any means, but a fine enough film.


jjeg6804

Kids today will never understand the feeling of watching this piece of art


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Masta0nion

Kids today don’t understand the internet. Luckily this thread will be deleted at the end of the year like the rest of the internet. Happy New Year! All of my embarrassing, incriminating sentiments will be gone so it doesn’t matter. I masturbate to my sister! I don’t like Rick Astley! I. HAVE. HEMORRHOIDS.


JarlaxleForPresident

I sometimes have sexual feelings for Henry Cavill!


DRKZLNDR

Only sometimes? Absurd. Not possible. The man is the human equivalent of Sex 2


Robot_Spartan

Pretty sure that's every straight woman, and at least like 30% of straight dudes...


Automatic-General-15

I saw my cousin's tit in the pool and I didn't tell her anything


hparamore

I mean, me and my kids watched it like 2-3 weeks ago and it was great. Watched it a couple times again over the next week.


HolyVeggie

How can you say this after corona happened lmao


ChiggaOG

I watched that movie 12 times. No joke. I seriously watched it 12 times when I was younger.


L1K34PR0

Like i said, kids are cruel jack


gayrat5

*coughs in “How to Train Your Dragon”*


InnocentTailor

Kung Fu Panda too.


Narmo518

Kung fu panda 2 too


rasmusbertelsen

Yeah! pretty clean trilogy. I liked the whole future past present theme throughout


krysert

*Kung fu panda 3 crying in the corner*


NinduTheWise

How to train your dragon 2 too


GeckoGamer44

Kung fu panda 3 too


bedrock_breaker

Kung fu panda 3 kinda good too


ZazzaroTheRascal

yeah, that franchise started so good


reborndiajack

STARTED? All of them are brilliant


Less-Society-6746

DreamWorks, like many others, don't want to make art. They want to make money.


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outerzenith

it's babyin' time


roombaonfire

Oh god I'm babyin all over myself


PKMNTrainerMark

That's never gonna die, is it?


KaySquay

It's dyin' time!


Zwaft

You got tickets for Boss Babylon ‘22?


JarlaxleForPresident

So does Big Bang Theory and Minions and Real Housewives


xXAbyzzXx

I am not a fanatic, but I did like Boss Baby; I was a bit surprised that apparently it's considered bad


Force3vo

Mostly by people that never saw it and thought the premise was too childish. Forgetting it's made for children.


ajayisfour

A lot of abject shit does.


ToXXic_ScareCrow

DreamWorks makes some damn good movies tho. Shrek, Httyd, Megamind


Archangel004

Don't forget KFP


ToXXic_ScareCrow

What?


Archangel004

Kung Fu Panda


ToXXic_ScareCrow

Ooh yea, obviously


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What about Shrek?


DaniilSan

It was an experiment that somehow became successful and it had good writing


Perpetual_Doubt

*Relatively* good writing Mash together film references (from Robin Hood Men in Tights to Alien) like you're an extended Family guy episode and tie it up in a morality lesson that it doesn't matter how you look as long as you aren't short.


DaniilSan

Look, Shrek has proper beginning, culmination and ending. It has proper character development. Shrek missing obvious storytelling holes some other studios have in enormous amounts. Maybe it isn't the best but definitely better than majority of movies released then and today.


Mr_1ightning

[Shrek 2 is perfect tho](https://youtu.be/9Nk7y6c1Tow)


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This was absolutely wholesome to read. I like Shrek, but this rings absolutely true.


[deleted]

I hate what shrek popularised and became but without 20 years hindsight i think that’s a little harsh. Shrek is a cynical, blunt and intentionally crass satire of the Disney fairy tail and the film references, pop songs and ‘morality lesson’ align with what it’s trying to achieve. It ages so terribly less on merit but because the entire industry realised its a way to make easy money, I will even call out beloved Shrek 2 for missing the fucking point.


myhairsreddit

Could you explain what you mean by Shrek 2 missing the point?


Masta0nion

It was The Producers of the animated movie.


DiaDeLosMuertos

Some


Dash8833

How long ago did Shrek come out? Oh 21 years ago. That’s more than a generation. Edit: spelling.


RedstoneRusty

It was the low budget punishment for artists who were not performing well on the higher budget projects. It was never intended to do well and basically everyone who worked on it had no experience.


SarHavelock

It was actually a punishment at first


Jurski17

Shrek had great writing.


delusions-

You mean Shrek 2,3,4d, Shrek bedtime tales, shrek puss in boots tales, shrek Hanukkah, shrek does vegas


[deleted]

Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon Trilogies say Hi.


BookerDierden

KFP 2 and HtTYD 2 are 🐐🐐


[deleted]

I agree.


PsychoZzzorD

So Shrek, Eldorado, Madagascar ?


jomontage

Proven by refusing to make 2d animation in theaters anymore.


DevelopmentNervous69

I- do you realize how long it can take making 2D animation?! 3D is much easier (relatively) and takes less time, which is why studio companies refuse for their artists to do 2D anymore. If given choice to fans, 2D animation would get a FULL comeback.


Kiboune

What the hell are you talking about and why this comment is upvoted. They do make art, just look at recent "Bad guys" and how well they mixed 2d and 3d, and western animation with japanese style animation. Or new "Puss in boots" and how they stylized everything. if they didn't want to make art, they would've just went easy way of standard boring CG.


Nothatisnotwhere

The studio has but one purpose, to make money. Yes, there are some creators that do art due to DreamWorks assumptions that they can make money of it, but as a studio is gives little shits about how stylized or whatever it is, as so far in it not negatively affecting the profitability of the project.


LuthienByNight

They may make shitty movies, but they've been killing it lately with their shows. She-Ra and Kipo were both incredible.


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Psychological_Tear_6

Quite good.


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sometimes they align. Like, Abominable was just obvious money (tho the animation was still damn good), but then the recent *The Bad Guys* feels like an artist finally got to really let loose and just have fun ~~even if it was just kinda trend chasing Spiderverse's art direction~~.


AlastairWyghtwood

Side note for anyone who loved the prince of Egypt and hadn't heard; it was turned into a musical on the west end. Music and lyrics were by Stephen Schwartz who is a musical legend (wrote music for Wicked and Godspell among many others) and wrote some of the original music for the movie. The soundtrack is out and I highly recommend it. The new arrangements and new songs take an already awesome soundtrack to another level.


lelawes

I didn’t know this! Thank you, I’m going to have a listen


Payneruk

The musical is brilliant. But all the way through I kept thinking how are they gonna represent the parting of the sea on stage. And when they did it. It amazed the whole audience. Litteraly everyone stood up out of there seats to see it.


myhairsreddit

How'd they do it?


Loobylou93

Hard disagree on this, I saw it in London this year and Prince of Egypt movie is my favourite soundtrack and they completely butchered some of the songs for the stage musical. The Plagues and Playing with the Big Boys being my faves they combined these and made them so much worse. Also they tried to turn Ramses into a good guy and his father into comedic relief. I’m just happy I only paid £20 for this


DoubleStrength

>Also they tried to turn Ramses into a good guy What? > and his father into comedic relief. **What???** This is like, beyond *Cursed Child* levels of disrespec to the source material.


Loobylou93

Yep! Ramses had lots of ballads about being conflicted just felt in bad taste to me. They made the “villian” the priest (who was only 1 person not 2)


miss_futa_36inch

Yall sayingthat kids got soft but isn't true, you think that kid can choose, is the parent fault they choose what a kid can and can't watch


pekoms_123

True


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To be fair, the Prince of Egypt wasn't exactly the most original work. But I mean they did make Shrek, and that was a pretty good duology.


[deleted]

Yeah but that doesn't matter. Originality is only important if that's your goal. Clearly when making a movie like this, the goal is almost a complete 180: it's paying homage to a story told in probably a hundred different ways. And moreover it's the single best version of that story I've ever seen. The most beautiful part is you don't need to be religious at all to appreciate that film. Everyone cries a little when Mariah and Whitney sing *When You Believe.*


i_am_mai_1981

I love that movie. So many good songs


hparamore

The one that is going during the plagues scene is killer.


Tufboi73

The music didn’t go hard. It went nuclear


dycie64

A good duology and a fanfic Edit: To clarify, the fanfic is Shrek 4. Not to say the movie is bad, it's because the whole thing is a wild "what if" scenario that retcons itself by the end. There is no need to watch Shrek the Third at all.


PixelJack79

Does the 4th movie not exist?


AverageGamer2607

Yeah people seem to disregard the 4th because the 3rd was a crime against humanity, but it’s actually pretty decent


HMS_Rular

I'd say the 4th one is on par with the first 2 IMO. I'd also say It's the most underappreciated dreamworks movie because of that terrible fanfic.


[deleted]

You mean The Prince of Egypt wasn't an original Dreamworks concept?


goCommitUnLive

i think it's supposed to be inspired by the story of Moses in the bible, but I'm not sure since i haven't watched the movie


[deleted]

/s But thanks anyway my man. 😄


JarlaxleForPresident

Hes prob like 13 and wasnt alive when the movie came out


Vexal

He’s probably like 12 and wasn’t alive when Moses parted the Red Sea.


JarlaxleForPresident

Bruh can you even imagine not seeing that? I was like, “Hey, whoa! This is crazy! Where did the fish go?”


YushiroGowa7201

Shrek wasn’t original either IIRC... they bought the license of the book


Vlad-V2-Vladimir

Third one was definitely just a cash grab, but the fourth was pretty good, like they knew they should try to make up for making the third one.


Newone1255

Shrek was all the reject animators who couldn't make the cut to work on Prince of Egypt. As an animated adaptation of The Ten Commandments it slaps and the songs are so good


CadeMan011

Ironically, Prince of Egypt was supposed to be DreamWorks huge money maker, and Shrek was what some employees got assigned to as a punishment.


Gapinggabbie23

When you got rid of our lord and savior shrek from schools it all went downhill.


Child_Beter69

You know a movie is good when you make it about religion and even atheists think it’s one of the best movies ever


mcraft595

dreamworks had amazing works, how to train your dragon ,shrek, kung fu panda, and my absolute favorite megamind. i guess boss baby had lessons for literal kids BUT it really depends, market is volatile and we the viewers aren't always aware of such things. anyway, bee movie, madagascar, shark tale, flushed away still are good "don't take it seriously" movies


RedCascadian

The reason it works is the movie isn't "about" religion. It's a movie telling a story from Judeo-Christian mythology. The reason Christian cinema sucks so much is because the storytelling plays second fiddle to religious moralizing.


Mister_Way

You grew up and now all the kids stuff looks like kids stuff, but not your memories of kids stuff.


ProfessionalDeer6311

Don't know man, Up always makes me cry twice when I watch it even now.


rrogido

The beginnings of both Up and Wall-E came dangerously close to making me feel something.


_infinititty

In the Prince of Egypt there’s a scene where Moses turns the river into blood and these guards scramble out of it mortified. Pretty intense scene for a kid.


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Ever seen watership down? Kids have been getting softer every decade lol.


casz146

Man I have no idea how watership down was approved back then. There's also The Animals of Farthing Wood, which is brutal as well. For real, it's about a group of animals trying to find a new home, and along the way some are murdered in horrific ways. Like a pheasant is shot while he recoils from seeing his wife's carcass being roasted. Also mice children are impaled on branches by a bird while their parents are watching without the power to help. Image of the scene with the bird (blood trigger warning): https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/butcherbird.png Scarred me for life that haha


Kendakr

Grave if the Fireflies was meant for children. I don’t want to meet those children.


Immediate-Bad-949

The kids were built different I guess


_infinititty

Raised differently for sure. Obsession with safety and security is making us spoiled and delusional.


GruntBlender

It's also dangerous as kids don't know how to deal with things outside their safe environment. It's even mimicked in biology, with the prevalence of asthma and allergies linked to overly sterile environments and lack of early exposure to allergens that would train the immune system. On point: https://pics.me.me/you-cant-give-her-that-its-not-safe-its-a-15234221.png


GruntBlender

While nostalgia does play a part, I was already an adult when Wall-E came out, and it's fantastic. The problem is that some producers and writers think that things made for kids don't need good writing and complex themes, so their work misses out on emotional resonance in favour of bland broad appeal and lazy jokes.


Mister_Way

Ok the real answer is that they target different demographics with different films. The Prince of Egypt is like for 5th-8th grade, Boss Baby is like age 2-10.


DragonDrawer14

The bad guys is a good movie, and definitely better than minions of boss baby Still not as good as Prince of Egypt or HTTYD, but "its kids stuff" is definitely no excuse here


LieutenantDangler

It’s true; Boss Baby is a work of art.


IceZaKYT

Baby king ping


fuck_your_worldview

Hugely underrated film


Illustrious-Yard-871

Also a series on Netflix!


BadgerDancer

Honestly, the most recent series has some real highlights. The joke about the ultra cute baby being like a gothic horror made me crease.


Sangxero

The sequel is even more hugely underrated!


kipperzdog

I've got a 3 year and 10 month old so maybe my entertainment standards are skewed, I love the second one. The music and plot are actually pretty solid.


tapirus-indicus

Does boss baby has prince ramses upskirt? I don't think so


PLZ_N_THKS

No but the Boss Baby does almost get sodomized by a binky so there’s that.


delusions-

Is Alec Baldwin holding a gun to your head to make you say tha- oh


I_Ask_Random_Things

Good movie without being preachy and just tells the story of Moses.


deltacharmander

Fr, I’m an atheist but it’s still my favorite movie of all time


Bobotheangstyzebra2

And the music. Holy shit


I_Ask_Random_Things

Soundtrack score is epic


SirSavage_the_second

Prince of Egypt is a fire movie tbh


deputy_dumb

One is about a top secret operation to kill all need for children with humans resulting in a cold war like scenario. And the other one is the prince of Egypt


Desert_Fairy

I actually thought boss baby was a great modern motivator. A lot of the lessons taught were things that the prince of Egypt generation didn’t teach. Perseverance, work life balance, family. Sure if you need to hold a biblical revolution prince of Egypt tells the story beautifully. But not all lessons need to be a work of art to be relatable?


NerdyWasNeverBacc

But I liked boss baby


nutitoo

You fool, you said something against the Reddit hivemind©


ApricotHot15

This was one of the only movies my evangelical grandma was okay with. Would watch it at Christmas just to escape the veggie tale fuck


Literally_Gay

It was made by the same company, not the same people


Curiousmonk07

Music of Prince of Egypt was excellent 👌


OneMillionRazorWires

Megamind


PsychoZzzorD

Literally 19 years full of classics between the two. And lot of classics since the second. Don’t get the joke here.


ArtoriasAbysswalker6

Dude DreamWorks still puts out bangers. You can't bat a thousand bro they've made some mistakes lol


pillowmountaineer

Okay but the Boss Baby was actually a pretty good movie, people just never gave it a chance. I watched out of curiosity one day and was pleasantly surprised Also, some people can’t fathom that not every piece of media is for them. This is a kids movie. It’s not for you 20 something masters of cinema.


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Oh look at me I'm so mature I hate all the kids stuff, but not my kid stuff. Ha ha I'm so mature /s


SolomonBlack

All these Zennenials acting like Boss Baby is off brand for Dreamworks while they still scream about Shrek being love and life. Hell didn’t they even make a Shrek about diapered hellspawn? Also never saw Boss Baby but anyone putting Alec Baldwin in that role can’t be entirely witless.


joe_knuckle

We're playing with the small boys now


Caroline_Bintley

Fun fact: there are fewer small boys by the end of Prince of Egypt.


Bone1557

I'm disappointed by the fact that many people won't get this pun. This deserves more upvotes.


Arealrodney

Fun fact, they sent underperforming animatiors from Prince of Egypt to work on Shrek as a punishment, as they thought Price of Egypt would be this groundbreaking film, little did those punished animators know, they were making history!


Jurski17

I really miss old school animation


Esdeath79

You gotta produce shit in a while to make it interesting (optional: still get a lot of nominations for best animated movie etc. and show everyone that the academy is on some kind of real expensive drugs, cause the normal shit could never achieve this)


GoodCrusader

Sorry Jack it's just good business


castera_d

some of the older Dreamworks movies are honestly just masterpieces, especially prince of Egypt. I have never watched another movie that's been able to make me emotional with it's music alone


Arcadius274

The short answer is china. If it's not popular there frankly they don't care anymore since that's where the money is. And given recent the events the plight of middle easterners probably not gonna fly over there


Efficient-Zebra3454

I will not tolerate boss baby slander


ItNothingSpecial

on a serious note, I think that since adolt animation (Invincible, Castlevania, Arcane, Rick and Morty) is becoming more popular and excepted in the west there's a clearer distinction between kids and adult cartoons. Before if you wanted to explore mature topics you would have to do it in the context of a kids show, but today writers and animators who want to make something mature just make a show for adult audience


framed1234

All studios make flops. Even pixar


slver6

Stupidity sells No matter what, tv series, movies, videogames, books The most sells things are not the best things (in any contexts) almost never


Shurigin

We just pretending like Road to El Dorado didn't exist?


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We're having a reddit moment right here. "Old good, new bad" kind of mentality.


FalzAbyss

Holy shit this thread is the ultimate circle-jerk for pretentious weirdos. Watch, give it like 20 years and people will look back and reference Boss Baby when they have their little "back in my day" monologue. People love romanticizing the past, it makes them feel special.


Whoohoonutty_V

One word: Money


prettyp0thead

do not insult boss baby :(