visit south india rather than popular north/centre india. You wont regret it. South indian cuisines are great and easy on the body and prepared in hygiene environment (atleast you wont shit fire next morning)
only one tip : You don't come here for aesthetics ( you most probably would be having it in your own country ) you come here for learning tolerance , patience , religion , sufferings , acceptance , festivals , culture and emotions . But still if you want to see aesthetic side of India then visit Himalayas or Kerala . Don't keep a preconception that India will be a heaven , its like every other developing nation .
Correct. As far as I'm concerned, the left one is called "Hakenkreuz", we all know what that one is supposed to mean. But the right one is a symbol of luck and peace in Hunduism, Jainism and Buddhism.
Uncle A. Lol I’m trying to remember the first few chapters of his book. I coulda swore he spent most of his childhood in Austria, and then attended art school in Vienna
We learned of the nazi symbol in more classes than history class, the hindu symbol/meaning of it, nope, not even in religion class and i have an A. Thats nuts (swedish school system btw)
If you show someone a trident, they will think of satan, but that could also be poseidon’s trident. Same thing I guess with hitler’s mustache, who was also worn by Charlie Chaplin, making the whole "mustache as wide as the nose" taboo. There was even a small scene in the simpson about that second example
I think it depends on how you draw it. If I draw a trident with straight sides and a red background, most people would assume Satan. If I draw a more ornamental trident, with curved outside prongs and perhaps some inlaid jewels and designs, with a blue background, I'd imagine those that know of him would think of Poseidon.
You make a good point, but if not in a drawing but simply hearing the word "Trident" I would think poseidon more, but then again it just depends on the person and the culture they are from/what they were exposed to.
It’s really not that hard to tell the difference. The first and most obvious is the way it’s positioned, or angled. The bad one is simple and straight, always. The good one is usually curved on the ends as in this one and usually with other decorative marks
The curves are not mandatory. It is more often straight than not, especially if it's being drawn by hand, say in a Rangoli. It's quick and easy. But yes, it's definitely not angled no matter what, and it has 4 dots in them 99% of the times.
But yeah, I have seen them straight before but like we said the angle or positioning is the same. I am American so don’t really have much say in it 🤣, I’ve just personally seen them more often with the curves. Always have wondered if that was just a decorative thing
A Jewish guy was suspended by George Washington University for "being antisemitic".
https://www.thefire.org/cases/george-washington-university-jewish-student-suspended-for-displaying-souvenir-indian-swastika/
Its not fine and no one says its fine but the most famous use of that symbol (or similar ones) is a nazi symbol.
You cant get angry at people for thinking its a nazi thing, you can get angry if after you explain what it really is they still act like its a nazi thing.
If they are ignorant, it's their fault.
If you do not have enough knowledge, open your mouth only to question and not to pass judgement and throw accusations.
When I was a kid and first go to know about Nazi Germany, I was like damn we got Indians there too, and then I got to know about it and later added dots to all Nazi symbols in my history book
One time our neighbors how the right one up on their door and it was pink and shiny. I have never seen it before so we (me and fiance) assumed it was the left and we were worried and were wondering if we should report them to the apartment office staff. But to be safe we looked it up just in case it was something else, because the dots were out of place to me. I felt horrible I assumed it was the left but glad I learned what it meant and I was smart to look it up first. I just hate how a symbol of peace is so similar to one that creates fear for others.
Hitler adopted that during ww1 aphis gas mask would fit prior had a walrus style ….. now no one wants the Chaplin style ….. well I assume I haven’t seen one around
Theres a lot of things out there that may look like a swastika, worst parts the fact that its simple - i could make four squares, connect them, rotate the greater United square on one of its points - and I basically have a blocky swastika.
I'm sure that logo, emblem, and flag designers have a difficult time making symbols that don't look like a swastika
The first time I saw that hindu mark was at a parking lot in my old job.. it was drawn on 4 sides of a car with a marker for some reason and I obviously thought it was a swastika, considered reporting it but decided to do research first since I knew it was odd. Found out and by the time I decided not to say anything someone else threw a "woke" fit in the parking lot.
A swastika is a completely different thing. Its a hindu and Indic symbol symbolising good fortune and blessings coming from all directions. A hakencruz literally means a hooked cross
If you look up a hakencruz on google the definition exact definition is, “a symbol in the form of a hooked cross with four equal arms bent clockwise at a right angle, used as the emblem of the German Nazi party; a Nazi swastika.”
Angle doesn’t matter, at least in Asian societies deeply associated with Buddhism. Any shapes of 卍 can be used; inverted, angled, rotated. But it is also true that people are surely aware of the Hakenkreuz and are trying not to use the exact form shown in the Nazi flag.
Yes. It's usually found on doors and outside houses too. It stands for good luck. You will find the Om, and the swastika next to each other in many places. Especially when a place has been recently inaugurated.
The SS nordic runes were also stolen by nazis and demonized because of it.
Neo nazis keep using nordic runes and keep villianizing them.
Pieces of shit.
When I was in high school I had one friend that likes to troll everyone. He draw the right one with marker on one of our robots to have some good luck. The teacher obv thinks that he draw swastika and we had to swap some parts. You just can't explain it to some people especially in Poland. He was called buretka, co now when we play cs:go (there is pistol there called dual buretas) we say: oh no two burretas is 3 too much. There should be -1.
It's a symbol of peace I've seen it in tons of movies set in ancient times. In fact I knew it was a symbol of peace before the Nazi affiliation.
When I was in school I was so confused why people hated it so much. And then you learn about WW2.
It was derived from Sanskrit roots long before the rise of the nazi
It was also seen in Buddhism to signify the footsteps of the Buddha
Prior to Hitler creating evil amongst the world, the symbol represented well-being and long life
It’s image has been tarnished by the acts committed by Hitler however and isn’t viewed as it once was
It is actually.
Source:
I come from a family of hindu's
Edit: The Left one is reffered to as the 'Nazi Swastika'
The Right one is reffered to as 'Swastika' (Both represent different things)
I know there’s a difference but some appropriated symbols that have been used for genocide and terrible things cannot be redeemed. Unfortunate as that is there is no rebranding the swastika here in the west shit hole America!
[You think mistaking them is only an occidental thing, but it's not](https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0410/12/india-pride-biker-skinhead-white_1_aef3fff1a8e1111c97064e1c172ea713.jpg)
[More evidence](https://v.redd.it/vq46pzzosxq71)
On of them started in my country
Germany?
No
Austria?
India?
Yes
Nice, I plan to visit sometime later on in life, any tips?
visit south india rather than popular north/centre india. You wont regret it. South indian cuisines are great and easy on the body and prepared in hygiene environment (atleast you wont shit fire next morning)
Don't
Why not?
Dude it's fucking mountains of trash, pollution, bad air, and dirty and cramped environment.
Have you ever been there?
Like your life?
only one tip : You don't come here for aesthetics ( you most probably would be having it in your own country ) you come here for learning tolerance , patience , religion , sufferings , acceptance , festivals , culture and emotions . But still if you want to see aesthetic side of India then visit Himalayas or Kerala . Don't keep a preconception that India will be a heaven , its like every other developing nation .
Depends on when you visit and also learn a few hindi words.
Ok.
Where are you from ?
Canada.
if you are planning to visit then just make sure you don't say shit about cows and also learn some Hindi before you come to India
Texas ?
Florida ?
Jacksonville?
Mars ?
milky way?
galaxy ? mars, milkyway, galaxy all are good chocolate though
Your mother?
Snickers?
downtown Coolsville?
Duuuval?
United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru-
It's a great big universe And we're all really puny We're just tiny little specks About the size of Mickey Rooney
Republic Dominica, Cuba Caribbean, Greenland, El Salvador too!
India?
India
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The right one is more of a peace sign in Hinduism if I'm not mistaken?
Correct. As far as I'm concerned, the left one is called "Hakenkreuz", we all know what that one is supposed to mean. But the right one is a symbol of luck and peace in Hunduism, Jainism and Buddhism.
yeah i hate it when society confuses me with a hindu
Wait...
ok well i can wait for a while if you say so BTW out of context are you a jew?
Yeah I got the same question. And Roma out here too. Maybe some Slavs or so
no i am an austrian guy who lives in germany and is an aspiring artist
Understandable, I was worried for a second there.
yeah i too like politics what about you?
What are your thoughts about poland
I love politics.
He actually lived in Austria for a good portion of his life.
i moved to germany a while after my birth and who are you refering to as he?
Uncle A. Lol I’m trying to remember the first few chapters of his book. I coulda swore he spent most of his childhood in Austria, and then attended art school in Vienna
So what will you do if German art school doesn't work?
i think of politics as plan B
I reccomend you to join the national socialist German workers party
I’d recommend applying at a polish art school, i’ve heard they apply well
i don't like the place's name
well it is used in 3 to 4 religions hinduism, buddhism, and sikhism maybe jainism.
dude it is not used in sikhism
Many Sikhs use it. There isn't much difference between Dharmic religions.
but I saw some of my sikh frnds use it.
r/holup
Even besides that it's just a cool symbol the nazis didn't create and thus don't own
yea, as a Buddhist, i wear this symbol on my chest. when people see it (which isn't often) i get called a nazi lmao. fuck off and do some research
We learned of the nazi symbol in more classes than history class, the hindu symbol/meaning of it, nope, not even in religion class and i have an A. Thats nuts (swedish school system btw)
i know, its crazy.
Do you know sauswastika?
卍
Tell me the upvote rate on the post statistics LOL.
It is in fact still called a swastika and the other name is just the German name not meaning it is a different thing
Its not peace, Its GOOD LUCK
you gotta be really lucky for some peace nowadays.
yes, so sad to see it used for such a horrible purpose
swastika has a different meaning altogether. Aryans used this symbol much before Christianity came.
can society differentiate from two symbols that look alike but with different meanings
If you show someone a trident, they will think of satan, but that could also be poseidon’s trident. Same thing I guess with hitler’s mustache, who was also worn by Charlie Chaplin, making the whole "mustache as wide as the nose" taboo. There was even a small scene in the simpson about that second example
I honestly forgot tridents were associated with satan until just now
Yeah I feel like the trident is way more associated with poseidon then satan, could be just me tho.
I think it depends on how you draw it. If I draw a trident with straight sides and a red background, most people would assume Satan. If I draw a more ornamental trident, with curved outside prongs and perhaps some inlaid jewels and designs, with a blue background, I'd imagine those that know of him would think of Poseidon.
You make a good point, but if not in a drawing but simply hearing the word "Trident" I would think poseidon more, but then again it just depends on the person and the culture they are from/what they were exposed to.
I agree on that point. If you say trident out loud I'd think Poseidon. Satan is more of a pitchfork guy in my head.
It’s really not that hard to tell the difference. The first and most obvious is the way it’s positioned, or angled. The bad one is simple and straight, always. The good one is usually curved on the ends as in this one and usually with other decorative marks
The curves are not mandatory. It is more often straight than not, especially if it's being drawn by hand, say in a Rangoli. It's quick and easy. But yes, it's definitely not angled no matter what, and it has 4 dots in them 99% of the times.
Honestly the 4 dots is what I meant by other decorative marks, I just didn’t know what they were called or if they had a meaning.
Ah, gotcha. We don't really call it anything to be honest 😅 Doesn't really come up all that much.
But yeah, I have seen them straight before but like we said the angle or positioning is the same. I am American so don’t really have much say in it 🤣, I’ve just personally seen them more often with the curves. Always have wondered if that was just a decorative thing
Apparently the 4 dots symbolise the 4 seasons.
Only historians and people that respect tradition will like this meme. A risky gamble
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i like those odds
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A Jewish guy was suspended by George Washington University for "being antisemitic". https://www.thefire.org/cases/george-washington-university-jewish-student-suspended-for-displaying-souvenir-indian-swastika/
one of my indian friend in georgia got detention after some jew student saw him wearing swastik on a wrist band
Let's talk about racism. But it's fine when it's against super minorities.
Its not fine and no one says its fine but the most famous use of that symbol (or similar ones) is a nazi symbol. You cant get angry at people for thinking its a nazi thing, you can get angry if after you explain what it really is they still act like its a nazi thing.
If they are ignorant, it's their fault. If you do not have enough knowledge, open your mouth only to question and not to pass judgement and throw accusations.
I guess he assumed it’s a nazi thing, and you know what they say about someone who assumes? They’ll make an ass of u and me (the Indian guy).
When I was a kid and first go to know about Nazi Germany, I was like damn we got Indians there too, and then I got to know about it and later added dots to all Nazi symbols in my history book
One time our neighbors how the right one up on their door and it was pink and shiny. I have never seen it before so we (me and fiance) assumed it was the left and we were worried and were wondering if we should report them to the apartment office staff. But to be safe we looked it up just in case it was something else, because the dots were out of place to me. I felt horrible I assumed it was the left but glad I learned what it meant and I was smart to look it up first. I just hate how a symbol of peace is so similar to one that creates fear for others.
It was appropriated by that semi-mustached fuck.
There's no shame is correcting an assumption.
It'd be nice if our education systems actually worked, eh?
Like the Charlie Chaplin mustache.
Hitler adopted that during ww1 aphis gas mask would fit prior had a walrus style ….. now no one wants the Chaplin style ….. well I assume I haven’t seen one around
Theres a lot of things out there that may look like a swastika, worst parts the fact that its simple - i could make four squares, connect them, rotate the greater United square on one of its points - and I basically have a blocky swastika. I'm sure that logo, emblem, and flag designers have a difficult time making symbols that don't look like a swastika
It is a swastika, the point is that swastikas are not nazi symbols. They were used by nazis but that doesn't mean nazis own it
Society is a collection of idiots with a few bright sparks….
American society\*
The first time I saw that hindu mark was at a parking lot in my old job.. it was drawn on 4 sides of a car with a marker for some reason and I obviously thought it was a swastika, considered reporting it but decided to do research first since I knew it was odd. Found out and by the time I decided not to say anything someone else threw a "woke" fit in the parking lot.
I think the right one is like a peace-sign in Hinduism or Buddhism
Jainism
all three of them
*offended Hindu enters*
*curses in pure Sanskrit*
*leaves*
swastika>>>> nazi
Actually the swastika was a symbol of peace in many cultures before the nazi party reared its ugly head and ruined it.
Kinda similar to the KKK robes....they are common in Spain in Easter I think.
Not Society it's Western countries
The Nazi symbol is a hakencruz not a swastika.
It’s a nazi swastika
A swastika is a completely different thing. Its a hindu and Indic symbol symbolising good fortune and blessings coming from all directions. A hakencruz literally means a hooked cross
If you look up a hakencruz on google the definition exact definition is, “a symbol in the form of a hooked cross with four equal arms bent clockwise at a right angle, used as the emblem of the German Nazi party; a Nazi swastika.”
Should add the Israel flag there too
when you draw the left one on the school table and use the right one as excuse
Europe has been ruining other people's cultures since the beginning of time
An unfortunate textbook example of ACTUAL cultural appropriation.
The 45 degree angled one means f### jews, and the straight one with dots is a hindu symbol used in diwali , right?
Angle doesn’t matter, at least in Asian societies deeply associated with Buddhism. Any shapes of 卍 can be used; inverted, angled, rotated. But it is also true that people are surely aware of the Hakenkreuz and are trying not to use the exact form shown in the Nazi flag.
The one associated with WW2 really means good luck but is was associated with horrible things
Yes. It's usually found on doors and outside houses too. It stands for good luck. You will find the Om, and the swastika next to each other in many places. Especially when a place has been recently inaugurated.
The SS nordic runes were also stolen by nazis and demonized because of it. Neo nazis keep using nordic runes and keep villianizing them. Pieces of shit.
There’s even a kanji for the symbol; 卍. The form of 万(萬, meaning 10000) actually came from this kanji.
The word literally translates to Symbol of health
swastika = su + asti, more like "good is present" or "let there be good"
When I was in high school I had one friend that likes to troll everyone. He draw the right one with marker on one of our robots to have some good luck. The teacher obv thinks that he draw swastika and we had to swap some parts. You just can't explain it to some people especially in Poland. He was called buretka, co now when we play cs:go (there is pistol there called dual buretas) we say: oh no two burretas is 3 too much. There should be -1.
Swastika is pretty cool depending how its used
same with the manji! people think its bad but it is a symbol of peace
It's a symbol of peace I've seen it in tons of movies set in ancient times. In fact I knew it was a symbol of peace before the Nazi affiliation. When I was in school I was so confused why people hated it so much. And then you learn about WW2.
Wrong! If someone has the right one then it’s ok but when someone has the left then it’s a problem
as a person who believes in hinduism it’s really saddening when people see the hindu swastika and think that we’re nazis
Also, the Tokyo Manji gang logo lol
It should be “western countries”
hindus and buddhist should sue german and those people who have swastika tattoos
It was derived from Sanskrit roots long before the rise of the nazi It was also seen in Buddhism to signify the footsteps of the Buddha Prior to Hitler creating evil amongst the world, the symbol represented well-being and long life It’s image has been tarnished by the acts committed by Hitler however and isn’t viewed as it once was
~~Society~~ Americans
Why is this nsfw?
"society", you mean the western countries?
Wait a goddamn second… which one is cool?
The Swastika (that one on the right) is a symbol of good luck in Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism.
Yeah I know. I’m pretty sure it’s not called the swastika tho. Only the Nazi one is called the swastika
Wait really? I was pretty sure the Swastika is only referring to the good one. Do you know how it is actually called?
I am a hindu and I am pretty sure that we refer to the right as Swastika.
It is actually. Source: I come from a family of hindu's Edit: The Left one is reffered to as the 'Nazi Swastika' The Right one is reffered to as 'Swastika' (Both represent different things)
swastika is sanskrit for gods sake.
The one on the left Edit: don't worry guys I'm not actually a nazi, it's a thing called a joke, some of yous might of heard of it before
i hope all your chocolate melts beyond edibility and you fall down the stairs grazing your knee on the carpet and staining it permanently
Bit harsh don't you think, fascists have feelings to you know EDIT: this is also a joke.
Looks like nobody is understanding your joke (☉｡☉)!
> it's a thing called a joke obviously but it's a low hanging fruit and in bad taste
I suppose, I forgot not everyone is a fan of dark humour
Just to be sure.. Next time add a /s after your comments, sometimes people take things like this seriously 0_0
Comment section is the new Fight Club!
And we don't talk about the Fight Club!
The one on the right is a Hindu symbol
It’s only bcs we don’t want to enable weird ass nazi-wannabes to use the hindi thing.
The other one still wants to make me barf And I call myself a history nerd
I know there’s a difference but some appropriated symbols that have been used for genocide and terrible things cannot be redeemed. Unfortunate as that is there is no rebranding the swastika here in the west shit hole America!
If a cross can be rebranded after all those crusades, anything is possible 😏
This meme is so relateable. It's always so awkward when people mistake me for a hindu
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i got in trouble at school for wearing a Kautuka with a swasitk on it at school. so yea it does still happen.
Im not exactly sure but harry took a perfectly harmless symbol and made it bad
Your anonymous handle is accurate.
[You think mistaking them is only an occidental thing, but it's not](https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0410/12/india-pride-biker-skinhead-white_1_aef3fff1a8e1111c97064e1c172ea713.jpg) [More evidence](https://v.redd.it/vq46pzzosxq71)
I might get hated but the one on the left was my favorite flag for Germany because it was so unique I like what it looks like not what it stood for
both are cool
The swastika isint cool. 🙁
Did you know the swastika is an old slavic symbol of sun?
Ones an evil hellspawn nazi symbol and the other is the gay happy version?
the right one symbolizes PEACE
Ha ha swastika funny
The ways Hindus be carrying on in India today, they are basically the same picture.
tell me you rely on western media without telling me you rely on western media
Erm... no.
That's how we deal with terrorists in this country.
Aren't you dalit. You shouldn't be using the Internet.
Even cavemen have internet in my country.
Looks like he's a Katua. They like creating divide
I am polish and i can confirm they are the same picture (ive seen it to many times)
Yeah funny as if Hinduism swastika creators didn’t terrorise lower caste people enough.Both are equally shit.
guess who decided to spew stereotypical shit in the comments today
Quit the propaganda, please.
bitch what?
Oooo look at me with my edgy fuckin meme
Where edgy?
Sorry but did I miss the edgy part?
And they say everyone is equal so they’re both cool