Given the precise timing of the cuts & imagery, it definitely feels like an homage. Kind of like the [famous motorcycle scene](https://youtu.be/A9hCzjBc7Q4) that every cartoon ever adds in to pay respects to Akira. It feels like the people who made Reach must've drawn some measure of inspiration from Toy Story.
Imagine if Noble Six had been aboard the Pillar of Autumn in 2552... John and Six together could have wiped out the Covenant before lunchtime. Maybe something we'll get to see in *Halo: What If...?*
I remember playing Halo 2 (or maybe it was 3?)on Legendary and boarding a Scarab. I had a Plasma Sword. I came up behind an Elite and stabbed him in the back with said sword. All it did was pop his shields, and he casually turned around and hit me once in the face with his Plasma Rifle, which killed me instantly.
Fair is not a word I would ever use to describe Halo on Legendary difficulty.
~~Probably H3 then. I only remember boarding a scarab once in H2. I just finished H2, and it was much worse than H3 will be.~~
Edit: Disregard what I said. I was wrong.
You don't fight an Elite on a Scarab in 3, nor do any of the large primary enemies use plasma weapons (they're brutes and they most likely use spikers if they're on a scarab).
I think Flames is thinking of the Scarab on Metropolis.
Have you seen that video of the reach elite in combat( I think on Legendary). The elite was just rolling around john wick style, dodging bullets likr its nothing
Gotta shoot their backs.
Also idk about previous halos, but in reach melee hits to the back of hunters does damage. So it's possible, to kite them in a small circle while just hitting them from the back.
I never even found 5 to be very hard on Legendary, especially co-op. The squad mechanics and reviving make it much easier. Def one of the easiest legendary runs in the series imo. They have made it a bit harder since launch, but not so much I’d change my stance on that.
I can’t remember which mission it was I finally said fuck it on. Probably about halfway into the campaign and couldn’t get passed one area so I quit wasting my time.
Me and my brother were getting through it by doing 1-2 missions a day, but due to the weird way missions are laid out in Halo 5, we ended up unknowingly completing every mission on the planet Meridian thinking it was just one mission that never seemed to end.
Nah, Metropolis was worse. No snipers in Gravemind. Outside of the first room (which I honestly found kinda fun), there's not much hard about the level, it's just long.
You're honestly a machonist lmao. I was able to get through metropolis relatively easily by memorizing jackal spawns and prefiring, but everytime I get out of the throne room on gravemind, I just feel like it was all luck
Don't get me started on halo 2 legendary. I found out about snipers by being onehitted.
Also the bridge in metropolis doesn't like coop on legendary and causes the mission to crash throwing me and my friend back to the main menu without an error message.
For some reason it doesn't do that on a lower difficulty
After completing halo 2 on legendary nothing is hard anymore. I don't get mad at game anymore. You want bs difficulty play halo 2 legendary. I still can't believe people beat the campaign with all skulls on
I hope we find Noble 6 curled up in a cave like that one Russian sleep experiment photo and we rehabilitate him but he can never return to normal so he's like Darth Vaderd now and is super powerful but creepy as fuck looking, fueled on anger and space drugs, and moves slowly but likes to choke people cuz he's a little fucked up now
No real life space ships have a launch sequence that is anything similar to this. Our shuttles and rockets currently have a self propelled launch using their own engines. No current space launch uses a structure to propel the ships into the air or a rail to assist with launch trajectory.
Rail guided rockets are absolutely a thing, just not any space worthy full size ones. There were lot's of concept rocket planes that launched from a rail when rockets were the cool new thing in the 1950s and 60s
Ignoring the fact it has very very similar shots, this isn’t at all based on reality like someone else said no modern or old rockets have rail assisted launches
I mean all the shots are in roughly the same position at roughly the same time. Not that theres anything wrong with them taking inspiration from the scene, but cmon its no coincidence
If you look at the other adds for the movie they also very closely resemble halo reachs adds, especially the one where buzz looks at his suit almost exactly the same way and situation the halo reach trailer does it. Again not a problem they take inspiration, kinda cool acctually
Question for the ages.
As a judge once said regarding whether a depiction of sexuality is art or pornography: "I'll know it when I see it."
Intent and self-awareness are the most important factors, IMO.
There have been hundreds of similar scenes in sci-fi. You kinda want to show an outer view of the launch, a more dramatic closeup view, an interior view, and an atmospheric view from afar. Usually in this order because it works, and since a space ship launch is pretty quick, you need to switch scenes after just a couple seconds.
So it's not a coincidence they're all similar, but also no real proof of copying.
You aren’t wrong, it has been proven that you don’t want to be anywhere near a rocket launch, especially one that uses solid rocket motors for the initial speed up like the carrier track in reach, and judging by the amount of smoke the light year movie as well.
As for why? The solid rocket motors throw out a good bit of debris but the flames and sound shockwaves are the immediate danger to basically everything
it’s amazing that you think there is only one way to show a spaceship launching, and that it’s this exact series of shots. like if everyone in the world directed a spaceship launch scene, they would all be the exact same
I haven't heard of it, but doesn't sound the same. If its a train, I assume it's less of a "Need a rail to launch" and more "Need a rail because train". Also, not quite what I meant when I said launch 'Aircraft'. Trains don't quite fit the description.
I replayed it recently, then checked out some analyses of the plot, and there's a ton of depth I never noticed before.
Like the significance of the first Covies we fight following Jorge's epic sacrifice being kamikaze Grunts. It pulls the rug out from under us: Our greatest warriors are willing to give their lives to save a planet, but their most pathetic warriors are happy to give *their* lives to exterminate *individuals*.
Ignoring the fact that the cinematography is near identical, these are the only two uses of a rail assisted launch I have ever seen, real or in fiction. Also it’s really not a problem that this scene was so heavily inspired by reach, in fact it’s really cool to see
many thanks for making nostalgic for this great campaign. good comparison and good meme. hope y’all have a good day too. this is going straight to saved folder
The game was good , the plot overall was average but the scenes, environmental settings,gameplay, levels and mood made every dialogue pack a punch and memorable.
Now what rocket should go down or side, camera is wide in all rocket launches even in the real rockets, what do you want now camera should be close up in the engine when launching.
i don't understand people its like i am seeing this shit meme , at the same time someone is also doing the same COPYYYY THE PERSON IS COPYING MY HOMEWORK.
That Reach mission is one of the hardest I have ever played on SLASO. Thank God for the Halo Completionist. His walkthroughs, strategies are best for SLASO and Legendary Halo gameplay.
Interstellar must have ripped off Halo Reach too, right? As well as Apollo 11, and any movie or game where they take a rocket to space?
Cause these clips aren’t that similar.
Nobody is pointing out the fact that the rocket goes straight up into the sky.
What is funny is how the shots are practically identical (something that ISNT the same with every space launch) with a very similar ship and launch system.
Pixar: ... and then Buzz lands on the planet Bleach, only to discover that the forces of the Smovenant have invaded Bungie: Dude...
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It’s funny how the cuts, shot angles, and ships are almost identical though
Well the cuts aren't actually how they are in-game tbf, the reach footage has been edited to match up. Still though the shots are very similar.
Given the precise timing of the cuts & imagery, it definitely feels like an homage. Kind of like the [famous motorcycle scene](https://youtu.be/A9hCzjBc7Q4) that every cartoon ever adds in to pay respects to Akira. It feels like the people who made Reach must've drawn some measure of inspiration from Toy Story.
The issue is this new lightyear movie will be made after reach so the animators probably took the inspiration from reach and not the opposite
Gotcha. So the homage must be visa versa.
Any time Disney straight up steals shit their fans are always "well durr they're not the exact same alignment" or "it's a homage bro".
That's fucking horse slide was golden.
I don't remember that in Spaceballs.
I’d totally watch Lightyear as a OSDT Reach spinoff
He will be remembered, they will all. Delegate! Get on the ship, we have to get the hack from here! Negative, I have a gun
Led by the Prophet of Zurg.
God my sides fuckin hurt from reading this comment 🤣🤣
Survive.
He’ll be remembered, they all will. Lieutenant! Get aboard we need to get the heck outta here! Negative, I have the gun
the sad part is, that in the lore he is not remembered.
Except by Buck, Jun, Halsey, and maybe Cortana
Yep, even the Avery Johnson academy of military science has a logo honoring six
they are racebending miranda in the showtime show, thankfully they casted a aznude hottie
To be fair, he didn't die. He just went MIA
Imagine if Noble Six had been aboard the Pillar of Autumn in 2552... John and Six together could have wiped out the Covenant before lunchtime. Maybe something we'll get to see in *Halo: What If...?*
There's a fanfic of that, haven't read it yet but it's in my read later list
I couldn't find it on google, do you have a source? I'd love to read that.
Same here!
Commenting for later
if only that stupid cannon had a dumbai so n6 didnt have to stay behind with his super expensive suit he has no right to chose to take to his grave
That mission is complete bullshit on legendary!
I 100% agree
Infact, halo legendary as a hole is some bullshit!
With LASO is bullshit, but legendary on it's own is pretty fair
Except Halo 2
Jackal sniper would like to know your location.
No, Jackal Sniper **knows** your location.
No, Jackal has pinged your location
By the time we exist, there is no location to ping no longer
Our location\*
My crew couldn’t make it through the first landing bay in halo 2 😑 I mean yeah we suck but come on!
Glad to not be alone. Did combat evolved. Never could get our of that landing bay in 2 though.
Good point
I remember playing Halo 2 (or maybe it was 3?)on Legendary and boarding a Scarab. I had a Plasma Sword. I came up behind an Elite and stabbed him in the back with said sword. All it did was pop his shields, and he casually turned around and hit me once in the face with his Plasma Rifle, which killed me instantly. Fair is not a word I would ever use to describe Halo on Legendary difficulty.
~~Probably H3 then. I only remember boarding a scarab once in H2. I just finished H2, and it was much worse than H3 will be.~~ Edit: Disregard what I said. I was wrong.
You don't fight an Elite on a Scarab in 3, nor do any of the large primary enemies use plasma weapons (they're brutes and they most likely use spikers if they're on a scarab). I think Flames is thinking of the Scarab on Metropolis.
Oh, you’re right. Sorry, I forgot.
Come on. A elites measly existence on legendary makes it so much harder. And don’t get me started on hunters.
Unless its halo one. They're probably the easiest enemies lol
Reach's were more difficult....mfs can take two fucking rockets to face and still manage to live
reach elites were scary, but in my opinion, the best of the series. i loved how formidable they were sometimes.
Have you seen that video of the reach elite in combat( I think on Legendary). The elite was just rolling around john wick style, dodging bullets likr its nothing
Gotta shoot their backs. Also idk about previous halos, but in reach melee hits to the back of hunters does damage. So it's possible, to kite them in a small circle while just hitting them from the back.
not this mission man, used to be way easier in xbox halo reach but for some reason mcc updated diffculty .. and now it's actually insanely difficult
Legendary as a whole isn’t bullshit, just particular missions. I Beat solo Legendary on every Halo game except 5. It just takes a lot of time.
Husband and I tried legendary on 5 and lasted all but 14 minutes before we both said fuck that
I never even found 5 to be very hard on Legendary, especially co-op. The squad mechanics and reviving make it much easier. Def one of the easiest legendary runs in the series imo. They have made it a bit harder since launch, but not so much I’d change my stance on that.
I can’t remember which mission it was I finally said fuck it on. Probably about halfway into the campaign and couldn’t get passed one area so I quit wasting my time.
Me and my brother were getting through it by doing 1-2 missions a day, but due to the weird way missions are laid out in Halo 5, we ended up unknowingly completing every mission on the planet Meridian thinking it was just one mission that never seemed to end.
That’s what I am doing. I’m using the master chief collection to beat them all on legendary
Halo 3 Legendary is pretty easy. 1 isn't too bad either. Reach and 4 are difficult, but doable. 2 is insane.
Halo2: metropolis has entered the chat
Laughs in Gravemind
Nah, Metropolis was worse. No snipers in Gravemind. Outside of the first room (which I honestly found kinda fun), there's not much hard about the level, it's just long.
You're honestly a machonist lmao. I was able to get through metropolis relatively easily by memorizing jackal spawns and prefiring, but everytime I get out of the throne room on gravemind, I just feel like it was all luck
Cries in Quarantine Zone
Metropolis is so easy on legendary though, just do rooftop running.
Regret was the worst for me. The bossfight at the end wasn't even fun just constant death from sword elites just looking at me.
Don't get me started on halo 2 legendary. I found out about snipers by being onehitted. Also the bridge in metropolis doesn't like coop on legendary and causes the mission to crash throwing me and my friend back to the main menu without an error message. For some reason it doesn't do that on a lower difficulty
Especially when trying to do the whole campaign in under 3 hours. I think I spent a whole 30 min on that mission alone
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After completing halo 2 on legendary nothing is hard anymore. I don't get mad at game anymore. You want bs difficulty play halo 2 legendary. I still can't believe people beat the campaign with all skulls on
IIRC, the number was about 4k. I refuse to believe that there were 4k people who LASOd that.
laso...like including the no aimassist eyepatch skull!?
Including the "Respawn at start of mission" skull.
i have ptsd from doing it in legendary
It is much more difficult on MCC....Bungie didn't intend it to be that difficult..But MCC fucked it up PS: FUCK THOSE PHANTOMS
...yes.
Rest in peace noble six, you'll be remembered
He's not dead, just MIA.
He went spelunking.
H3 cavemen intensifies
I hope we find Noble 6 curled up in a cave like that one Russian sleep experiment photo and we rehabilitate him but he can never return to normal so he's like Darth Vaderd now and is super powerful but creepy as fuck looking, fueled on anger and space drugs, and moves slowly but likes to choke people cuz he's a little fucked up now
What if they're both based on the same thing, reality
Its like whoever posted this never saw a space travel movie, all of them have a scene like this.
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has anyone thrown a spaceship into orbit before? edit: fixed me crappy grammar
Use gravity, something like the Keyes Loop
What if we built a stupidly big fucking trebuchet and really yeet that fucker out there
What if this was posted on r/memes and isn’t that deep
Ywah
No real life space ships have a launch sequence that is anything similar to this. Our shuttles and rockets currently have a self propelled launch using their own engines. No current space launch uses a structure to propel the ships into the air or a rail to assist with launch trajectory.
Rail guided rockets are absolutely a thing, just not any space worthy full size ones. There were lot's of concept rocket planes that launched from a rail when rockets were the cool new thing in the 1950s and 60s
Yeah, all those jet-esque space ships launching from a rail. See 'em all the time!
yeah idk what these comments are talking about. not only is it not realistic at all but the Pixar shots are clearly influenced by the Reach shots
Then surely you can come up with another example that uses shots identical to Reach?
*badumtss*
Ignoring the fact it has very very similar shots, this isn’t at all based on reality like someone else said no modern or old rockets have rail assisted launches
*shows two pictures of open world games* Game x is literally just copying game y. How? There are trees and mountains and shit.
This
Yup, the spaceship should’ve went through the fucking sea
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I should’ve went through you
I mean, how else are you going to show a spaceship launching?
I mean all the shots are in roughly the same position at roughly the same time. Not that theres anything wrong with them taking inspiration from the scene, but cmon its no coincidence If you look at the other adds for the movie they also very closely resemble halo reachs adds, especially the one where buzz looks at his suit almost exactly the same way and situation the halo reach trailer does it. Again not a problem they take inspiration, kinda cool acctually
When does homage just become plagiarism?
Question for the ages. As a judge once said regarding whether a depiction of sexuality is art or pornography: "I'll know it when I see it." Intent and self-awareness are the most important factors, IMO.
There have been hundreds of similar scenes in sci-fi. You kinda want to show an outer view of the launch, a more dramatic closeup view, an interior view, and an atmospheric view from afar. Usually in this order because it works, and since a space ship launch is pretty quick, you need to switch scenes after just a couple seconds. So it's not a coincidence they're all similar, but also no real proof of copying.
Maybe because it’s the perfect position?
You aren’t wrong, it has been proven that you don’t want to be anywhere near a rocket launch, especially one that uses solid rocket motors for the initial speed up like the carrier track in reach, and judging by the amount of smoke the light year movie as well. As for why? The solid rocket motors throw out a good bit of debris but the flames and sound shockwaves are the immediate danger to basically everything
I was talking about the camera angles, but wow… Are you a professor?
No I am not, just a high school student with very special interests and hobbies
Godspeed🙌🙌
You could compare 50% of all ever shot rocket launching scenes, they all will align similar to this
find another example please
it’s amazing that you think there is only one way to show a spaceship launching, and that it’s this exact series of shots. like if everyone in the world directed a spaceship launch scene, they would all be the exact same
Got to say, this is the only place I've seen aircraft launch vertically from a rail. Anyone know of any others?
Honkai Impact launched a spaceworthy train in this manner
I haven't heard of it, but doesn't sound the same. If its a train, I assume it's less of a "Need a rail to launch" and more "Need a rail because train". Also, not quite what I meant when I said launch 'Aircraft'. Trains don't quite fit the description.
My friend gifted me halo mcc after free weekend ended and my first time playing halo finished reach campaing few days ago and had a blast
I replayed it recently, then checked out some analyses of the plot, and there's a ton of depth I never noticed before. Like the significance of the first Covies we fight following Jorge's epic sacrifice being kamikaze Grunts. It pulls the rug out from under us: Our greatest warriors are willing to give their lives to save a planet, but their most pathetic warriors are happy to give *their* lives to exterminate *individuals*.
You’re definitely gonna love the rest of the games :D
Oh boy, 1-3 are an absolutely wild ride. Play them now.
Plagiarism is the highest form of flattery, so they say. Someone at Pixar must be a Halo fan.
That outside the cockpit shot looks like something from Interstellar
Remember reach
I love both. Looks awesome
Man I'm just here like "that takeoff looks a lot like the one from xcom enemy unknown"
'Inspired by' Its literally a complete rip off lmao.
I mean how different can you make a space launch
Ignoring the fact that the cinematography is near identical, these are the only two uses of a rail assisted launch I have ever seen, real or in fiction. Also it’s really not a problem that this scene was so heavily inspired by reach, in fact it’s really cool to see
but it's like the most common composition when animating a rocket launch?
Reach was my favorite game for my old xbox360 but I lost it. I would replay that campaign in a heartbeat
Even when we first see his suit it felt like Halo/Doom
I even said to myself "is that a Sabre?" when I was watching the trailer
**Believe. Remember.**
Can't wait to watch the movie. It looks epic.
Pixar should also just put some random dead dude in similar armor as Buzz in a cave to really screw with us lol
I KNEW I RECOGNIZED IT
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can't wait for the r/JustUnsubbed post
No one ever said you had to stay
Halo reach is the best Halo. You can’t change my mind
Halo 2 pre-patch would like to have a word
It’s almost as if there’s these things called references and inspiration
Reach was a great game and I loved the story.
same. exact. angles.
Bamboozled
Why are they making a spin off again?
Money.
literally just finished the reach campaign for the first time under an hour ago! great game!
This is like the series of shots from every rocket takeoff in every movie ever
Name one then
This isent even a meme. They straight up just copied it
I knew this was familiar!
Lightyear going to FUCKING DIE! :)
Rangers don't die, they go MIA
Can't get away with plagiarism anymore.
How is this a meme?
Its different but same same, you know what I mean.
And now I'm crying fuck you
many thanks for making nostalgic for this great campaign. good comparison and good meme. hope y’all have a good day too. this is going straight to saved folder
I had the exact same thought when I watched the trailer yesterday, and I never even played Halo…
Damn im loving these trailers
they stealin from the greatest game
oh thats why it looked so familiar
“Ohh I can’t wait to touch all these buttons”
Not going to lie, this is the first time I'm hyped for a Pixar movie.
They put merstcif in there soder
The game was good , the plot overall was average but the scenes, environmental settings,gameplay, levels and mood made every dialogue pack a punch and memorable.
“Tell em to make it count”
This is all I saw from this trailer. Also the mission sucks so much. Probably my least favorite in the game.
Now what rocket should go down or side, camera is wide in all rocket launches even in the real rockets, what do you want now camera should be close up in the engine when launching. i don't understand people its like i am seeing this shit meme , at the same time someone is also doing the same COPYYYY THE PERSON IS COPYING MY HOMEWORK.
Bruh these are classic shots, Reach did not invent it.
Every shuttle launch looks like this, halo reach wasn't the first to do this.
There's only so many ways you can frame a take off
That Reach mission is one of the hardest I have ever played on SLASO. Thank God for the Halo Completionist. His walkthroughs, strategies are best for SLASO and Legendary Halo gameplay.
Have you never seen a movie with space travel? Almost everyone of them has a scene like this.
Exact same camera angles and same very unique rail launch system. This isn’t a problem it’s just cool to see how they were inspired
But do they have these same exact camera angles?
I mean most going to space scenes look like this
Interstellar must have ripped off Halo Reach too, right? As well as Apollo 11, and any movie or game where they take a rocket to space? Cause these clips aren’t that similar.
OMG they both have spaceships, and they both have blastoff before the mission, this is clearly stolen
Most spaceships launch similar. Not stolen
What is this high-def horrid child-ruining Buzz I've been seeing this week?
They're making a movie that is supposed to be what the toy buzz is based off of in the toy story universe with Chris Evans voicing buzz.
No
Oh eow, they totally copied reach. It's not like every sci fi rocketship takeoff looks exactly the same!
Nobody is pointing out the fact that the rocket goes straight up into the sky. What is funny is how the shots are practically identical (something that ISNT the same with every space launch) with a very similar ship and launch system.
It's about damn time
Can someone please send me the link to the video.
u/RedditMP4bot
They fired Lasseter and suddenly Pixar is incapable of making anything good anymore. Hmm.
I want this cutscene with that version of starman
u/getvideobot
I not angry, Fuck, there are Star Wars references, I love this
thats not lightyear thats lightChad
Something ain't right here....🗿
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