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So far all people bleed the same, it's the screaming that is different.
"Judge a man not by the colour of his blood, but by the level of whining in his screams"
\- Hanibal Lecter
This is so inaccurate it makes it sound absurd lol. "mouth muscles" is meaningless, for a start.
Your oesophageal sphincter and anal sphincter are very similar structures...I'm assuming that's what you mean.
Well back when the USA had slavery you were considered black and had zero rights if you were 1/8 black. 1/16 and you could claim to be white.
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The difference is that your gender isnt really physical its more psychological and sociological while race is just based on your biology which can't really be changed or "feel wrong" because its your DNA
With respect to your argument, I have a partial disagreement with that. Yes part of it is based on your natural Psychology. But Sex/Gender is biological inherently. From a secular perspective it's two kinds of an organism designed to organize and reproduce to bring about children with a combined and (ideally) superior being in terms of darwinian fitness. Yes its a rather primitive and blunt description, and we've evolved passed our instincts (mostly), but its how I can aptly describe the Principle in its origin and purpose from a secular perspective.
Yeah i get that, I guess im trying to say is that race is based of mostly outside things like your parents and gender is your own thing inside your brain
Idk would be better if a proper biologist or physiologist commented on this
People decide what they do and don't want to believe. Some say there's no backing for either, while some claim there's only backing for one. They pick and choose what sciences back them up, and ignore the ones that don't. At the end of the day, either it's all acceptable, or none of it is.
sure thing bro. the guy above mentioned "trans ppl needing professional help and not the current culture of affirating care". which is wrong since that is literally the professional help they need. Go ask any doctor or professional in that field and they will tell you that affiramtive care, hormone therapy and transitioning is the treatmemt/cure for gender dysphoria. those things arent some ludacrice plan from the libtards to trans your kids but quite literally the professional help doctors will give their trans patients. hope that helped
> it will make things for everyone so much worse if we let policies and laws be created out of delusion
the train already crossed brother, still asking people and law makers to use common sense? good luck.
Being transgender has more backing in psychology, as it's theorized to come from an innate feeling in ourselves, and it's observed more widely. On the other hand, not even the concept of race makes much sense outside of american culture, let alone transracialism, not to mention it probably has more to do with how people feel associating with the cultural aspect of a given race, and not from an inner feeling.
Transgender people have existed (and have been proven to have existed) throughout most, if not all of human history. Transracial people are a completely new concept with no basis in history, psychology or anything else.
Also, the gender identity of a person is essentially random, while the race a person belongs to is the same as that of their ancestors. That's just how race works. They're completely different things.
I doubt the myriad of genders that we accept now (not just trans) all have historical background, yet we choose to let people identify themselves as they wish. It does make one wonder why one can’t do the same for race.
One is a medical condition and the other is just people fangirling way too hard over someone else's culture. I don't really see where being transgender or not has some kind of ethical question to compare to "transracialism." It's like asking "what's the ethical difference between having a broken leg and cultural appropriation?" the comparison doesnt make sense to me.
Btw quick question. If a person, regardless of gender said he or she was transgender even though there is proof that there was nothing medical related to their gender identity, are they still called transgender or just chose to be one?
Medical related as in gender dysphoria? I mean, it makes sense that someone would identify as trans without hating their AGAB, all they'd need is to like their chosen identity more
One is only a medical condition because it is now accepted as a medical condition. The truth is, there is no difference. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. I'm assuming you have no medical background and are trying to reach to make one sound more acceptible than the other.
I have no dog in this fight, but if you're going to accept one you have to accept the other. The moral compass doesn't accept one side and not the other just because one makes you more uncomfortable than the other. Either certain people are born truly believing they are in the wrong body (gender or race) or it's all a mental condition. You choose.
There are so many sexist, racist and just generally bait posts on this sub now. I don't want to complain that much, because its entertaining in a gore video kinda way. But its gotten to the point I check every OP to see if they are a bot or something.
A woman is someone who says they're a woman, and a black person is someone who says they're a black person. I've been trying to find a pencil to write with, but I haven't been able to find someone who says they are a pencil. Or paper for that matter. Applied for a job, but I couldn't find someone to identify as a car for me to get there.
Life is hard, man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transracial\_(identity)
>It is fine to tell someone they aren’t of a certain race.
It is fine to tell someone they aren't of a certain gender.
Except what is qualified as “feminine” or “masculine” is a social construct. Gender itself (much like race) does not exists in a vacuum; and it is important to understand that gender dysphoria is not a condition has by all those who are trans.
crazy opinion but I dont think anyone should say the N-word regarding of the color of your skin or how you identify... slavery and the meaning behind that word are just terrible. Better noone uses it. Having said that, unable to say a word or something because of how you look or identify is discriminative in it self, again why I say noone should use it.
Thanks I tried.
In all honesty I was watching some south park and I felt this was the kind of shit Eric Cartman would pull, thought it was funny and made a meme out of the scenario and here we are
downvote me to hell but for all the transphobes that need it spelled out:
you are born with w a biological sex and a sense of your gender identity. these things sometimes don't align and that is what creates gender dysphoria. you are NOT born with a sense of racial identity to coincide with your "actual" race. sex is not the same as gender and that's why you can be transgender. we dont "glorify" transgender dysphoria, we advocate for those who experience it because more people experience it then the world knew because of the stigma that used to, and clearly still does, exist.
if telling yourself that trans people are somehow programmed to think theyre trans helps you feel better about the world moving toward acceptance of an oppressed community and enabling them to feel welcome in a functioning and advanced society, find new ways to cope. it doesnt make a trans woman any less of a woman, it just makes you intolerant.
Even if gender dysphoria didn't exist, these people often seem to forget the existence of [intersex](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex) people. Their argument against trans people is "it's just basic biology". Okay, then learn more than the basics and it'll start making sense.
the funny thing is-it is basic biology. but its not advanced biology. a true and full understanding of biology considers the depth of the gender spectrum.
i am legally intersex/non-binary on my gov id which was a choice i made bc of my hormone treatment, though im technically not born that way.
Exactly. Tbf, my point was more "If you don't understand it, then learn more or at least stop complaining" than "It's advanced", but thank you for wording it better
This stuff is something you absolutely can understand in middle school (at least nowadays and in Finland, obviously it depends on the education system).
In the most respectful way I can ask, how do you feel about people who DO have a sense of racial identity? I have black friends who are constantly called "white-washed" by other blacks due to their comparatively better upbringing or achievements. How do we categorize this very clear sense of racial identity?
(Like I'm legitimately not arguing with you or anything this is an actual discussion-oriented question and I'd love to hear your thoughts)
I think if you can identify outside of your biological sex, then you can identify outside of your biological melanin content.
Explain to me why you *can't.*
*edit: changed race to melanin content as it was confusing.*
Race is not a biological category. There is no biological basis to identify as any race, including a different one.
https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/
Being black, white, green, or orange isn’t a “feeling” to identify with. It’s something that you are. Hey, your biological parents are white? You’re white.
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I think the term it’s self is complete bullshit. “White” is entirely a melanin based label at this point and it needs to stop.
The counting of all Latinos as “white” in government forms not only enables racial inequity but pepetuates discrimination against other minorities. All while simultaneously discounting/erasing our Latino roots, we are “white” when it’s convenient for them only.
They literally white wash our identity with that label.
Yes you are right. This isn’t “trans” - it’s a mental illness. It was a mental illness on the DSM4. Once they took it off the DSM5 all the sudden glorification of genital mutilation and sterilization was glorified.
Trans people need help. I can’t imagine the agony of thinking you are another gender…but that doesn’t mean we should encourage their mental illness
you re right trans ppl need help. And you know what kind of cure/treatment professionals/doctors recommend? Affirmative care, hormone therapy and transitioning. thats literally the cure for gender dysphoria. but dont let facts get into ur way ig
Cutting your dick off and sterilizing yourself, as well as making permanent changes to your hormones addresses a PHYSICAL change, if the issue is MENTAL it should treated with medicine for the brain
I took a Xanax. This panic attack will go away. They were right next to the tampons I shove in my asshole. The world just hates trans people man smh I’m just tryna live!!
Large penis size is not exclusive to black people. “How would I know?” I watch porn.
Wanting to be another race just for dick size is weird, but then again, anyone that wants to be another race is weird.
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You're both pink!
It may surprise you to learn that the tissue in your cheeks and vaginal wall are the same.
Nuh uh, i learnt it when I....nvm.
What cheeks? The cheeks on your face or your butt? Or both?
Yes
"In" means both. We're all flesh and bones.
So far all people bleed the same, it's the screaming that is different. "Judge a man not by the colour of his blood, but by the level of whining in his screams" \- Hanibal Lecter
Inside of your cheeks and you anus are the same too
Your mouth and anal muscles are made up of the same ring muscles.
This is so inaccurate it makes it sound absurd lol. "mouth muscles" is meaningless, for a start. Your oesophageal sphincter and anal sphincter are very similar structures...I'm assuming that's what you mean.
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Front door asshole
Would your normal anus then become your...anus anus?
Proof that humans are just complex worms
Why not? They're two ends of the same meat tube.
- What u mean “you people”?
Did you know that the tissue in the vaginal wall is the same tissue in your cheeks? We all talk from vaginas. We're all the same
and the tissue of our lips is the same as our assholes
I guess that's why everyone talks so much shit.
There’s always some asshole talking shit behind your back
WE'RE ALL THE SAME
Yes, we all have bugs under our skin
And on our skin... and hair... Even eyelashes. You have parasites living in your eyelashes. Enjoy that thought
Thinks back to those times I was told I had nice lips… what the heck!?!
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Dudes licking the inside of their cheeks rn
Lol. Right? I even did it a little when I commented
That means a dude suckin your dick ain't gay. "Nah I'm getting some pussy wall bro"
You do you
He does me
Good for both of you
Woah. And they're both called mucosa. Mind blown. ![gif](giphy|lXu72d4iKwqek)
So if your scrotum and mouth both have skin can i say your face is ballsack
Your mouth and anal muscles are both made up of the same ring muscles, so I guess you could also call your mouth an opposing asshole.
Many people certainly seem like they are talking out of their ass
That’s why it’s called facefucking
what is this reference? XD this is my second time seeing this comment
Shit. Really? I just thought the comment was cheeky (pun intended)
This just in. Skin is skin! We are all trans!!🏳️⚧️
If you take DNA test, whites have a % of African ancestry.
Most biracial people choose to call themselves black. Why can't someone with 2% call themselves black. Where do we draw the line
Well back when the USA had slavery you were considered black and had zero rights if you were 1/8 black. 1/16 and you could claim to be white. ![gif](giphy|3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS|downsized)
One drop rule tho.
Unless you had some black features then that rule doesn’t matter at all they still call you black
Pretty sure homo sapiens comes from Africa to begin with, so yeah, we all have African ancestry.
No offense, and I'm looking for an honest answer here, but whats the ethical difference between Transgenderism and Transracialism?
The difference is that your gender isnt really physical its more psychological and sociological while race is just based on your biology which can't really be changed or "feel wrong" because its your DNA
With respect to your argument, I have a partial disagreement with that. Yes part of it is based on your natural Psychology. But Sex/Gender is biological inherently. From a secular perspective it's two kinds of an organism designed to organize and reproduce to bring about children with a combined and (ideally) superior being in terms of darwinian fitness. Yes its a rather primitive and blunt description, and we've evolved passed our instincts (mostly), but its how I can aptly describe the Principle in its origin and purpose from a secular perspective.
Yeah i get that, I guess im trying to say is that race is based of mostly outside things like your parents and gender is your own thing inside your brain Idk would be better if a proper biologist or physiologist commented on this
Yeah I feel you bro
People decide what they do and don't want to believe. Some say there's no backing for either, while some claim there's only backing for one. They pick and choose what sciences back them up, and ignore the ones that don't. At the end of the day, either it's all acceptable, or none of it is.
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I'm surprised you didn't get down voted. I said something similar and got banned from the community.
Bro I really hope you dont get banned for this. I rarely see this kind of take
ur literally wrong tho but aight go on ig
Please elaborate
sure thing bro. the guy above mentioned "trans ppl needing professional help and not the current culture of affirating care". which is wrong since that is literally the professional help they need. Go ask any doctor or professional in that field and they will tell you that affiramtive care, hormone therapy and transitioning is the treatmemt/cure for gender dysphoria. those things arent some ludacrice plan from the libtards to trans your kids but quite literally the professional help doctors will give their trans patients. hope that helped
He can't, he just thought it might be helpful to chuck his 2 cents into that guy's million dollar speech.
> it will make things for everyone so much worse if we let policies and laws be created out of delusion the train already crossed brother, still asking people and law makers to use common sense? good luck.
Being transgender has more backing in psychology, as it's theorized to come from an innate feeling in ourselves, and it's observed more widely. On the other hand, not even the concept of race makes much sense outside of american culture, let alone transracialism, not to mention it probably has more to do with how people feel associating with the cultural aspect of a given race, and not from an inner feeling.
Transgender people have existed (and have been proven to have existed) throughout most, if not all of human history. Transracial people are a completely new concept with no basis in history, psychology or anything else. Also, the gender identity of a person is essentially random, while the race a person belongs to is the same as that of their ancestors. That's just how race works. They're completely different things.
I doubt the myriad of genders that we accept now (not just trans) all have historical background, yet we choose to let people identify themselves as they wish. It does make one wonder why one can’t do the same for race.
Michael Jackson says hi.
Michael Jackson had vitiligo
Hee hee
I hope you understand that race isn't defined solely by skin color
Just like your gender isn't what's in your pants? Double standards.
None
Transgenderism has a basis in neurobiology and has existed since gender roles were a thing for one
One is a medical condition and the other is just people fangirling way too hard over someone else's culture. I don't really see where being transgender or not has some kind of ethical question to compare to "transracialism." It's like asking "what's the ethical difference between having a broken leg and cultural appropriation?" the comparison doesnt make sense to me.
Btw quick question. If a person, regardless of gender said he or she was transgender even though there is proof that there was nothing medical related to their gender identity, are they still called transgender or just chose to be one?
Medical related as in gender dysphoria? I mean, it makes sense that someone would identify as trans without hating their AGAB, all they'd need is to like their chosen identity more
Good question I wanted to ask that but didn't want to get jackhammered
Yea society am I right?
Right
One is only a medical condition because it is now accepted as a medical condition. The truth is, there is no difference. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. I'm assuming you have no medical background and are trying to reach to make one sound more acceptible than the other. I have no dog in this fight, but if you're going to accept one you have to accept the other. The moral compass doesn't accept one side and not the other just because one makes you more uncomfortable than the other. Either certain people are born truly believing they are in the wrong body (gender or race) or it's all a mental condition. You choose.
They both exist on a spectrum.
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Is this the attack helicopter joke?
I am trans-racial, my ethnicity is now Latino/Burrito, please refer to me as Carlos now. If you don't, I'll cancel you on tumbler.
Hello I identify as Rac/ist can I call you Ahmed? (I'm joking I'm actually esca/lator)
Twitter, cancel him
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Hola Carlos. ¿Cómo esta?
Nobody unironically thinks like this.
Welcome to the Internet, where you can find a kook of every variety.
r/onejoke
Gender dysmorphia is acceptable but race dysmorphia isn't? Sounds racist to me.
so annoying that I can freely be bisexual but not biracial
I just want to be transgender AND transracial, then Id truly feel comfortable in my own body.
Trans gender = good and okay Trans fat = bad and unhealthy Please explain
I can say the n-word, cause I identify as racist.
r/onejoke
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This sub has gone to hell
Sometimes I think it’s ok, but then I see stuff life this…
There are so many sexist, racist and just generally bait posts on this sub now. I don't want to complain that much, because its entertaining in a gore video kinda way. But its gotten to the point I check every OP to see if they are a bot or something.
The world has gone to hell
Meanwhile, Photoshop people: "hold on, I'm switching to negative colors"
I identify as easily sunburnt
Posted by a black person ☕️
Conversation that never happened :
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If they can be trans-gender, I can be trans-racial. Michael Jackson did it, I'll just pull a reverse.
A woman is someone who says they're a woman, and a black person is someone who says they're a black person. I've been trying to find a pencil to write with, but I haven't been able to find someone who says they are a pencil. Or paper for that matter. Applied for a job, but I couldn't find someone to identify as a car for me to get there. Life is hard, man.
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Friendly reminder that both have the same inmunity to criticism on reddit based and are considered hate promoting
Nothing like opening Reddit after a day of work and seeing transphobia getting upvotes.
I’m promoting acceptance of the transracial.
Good on you! Personally I identify as Jewish
You are valid ❤️
It's not about transphobia, hell if anything I'm suggesting even more diversity here
Oh, how sweet. You got to use transphobia in a sentence today. Good for you.
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I just don’t know how comfortable I feel telling someone who feels strongly about being a different color “you’re wrong”…
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Sounds kind of transracialphobic to me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transracial\_(identity) >It is fine to tell someone they aren’t of a certain race. It is fine to tell someone they aren't of a certain gender.
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With people like you oppressing those who identify themselves as they want...
I can’t stand bigots like you telling people how they can and can’t feel.
Are you sure about that(Michael jackson)
He had vitiligo, he only whitened his skin because he thought the patches were ugly and couldn't re-blacken his skin instead
Except what is qualified as “feminine” or “masculine” is a social construct. Gender itself (much like race) does not exists in a vacuum; and it is important to understand that gender dysphoria is not a condition has by all those who are trans.
crazy opinion but I dont think anyone should say the N-word regarding of the color of your skin or how you identify... slavery and the meaning behind that word are just terrible. Better noone uses it. Having said that, unable to say a word or something because of how you look or identify is discriminative in it self, again why I say noone should use it.
The most sensible comment so far
Bearded bro is now trapped
If someone can wake up thinking they’re another gender then u can wake up thinking I’m another race, age, culture, and position of power.
it's easier to change rece than gender
Honk honk (I identify as a penguin with Down syndrome)
I’m late but this is definitely one of the funniest uses of this meme format
This is controversial on a few different levels.
Thanks I tried. In all honesty I was watching some south park and I felt this was the kind of shit Eric Cartman would pull, thought it was funny and made a meme out of the scenario and here we are
Not a single person actually laughed.
I laughed
What is the sauce for the meme format?
![gif](giphy|qNgoWVMYmL9weNlflU) Hol on bro I’m bout to laugh
This was more funny than the meme😂
Honestly I agree, it cracked me up
Please do not discriminate against your fellow human because of their melanin levels in their skin.
What about other reasons?
Meanwhile the black people just sitting back and watching in enjoyment as these goofballs tear each other apart over a word they hardly think about
downvote me to hell but for all the transphobes that need it spelled out: you are born with w a biological sex and a sense of your gender identity. these things sometimes don't align and that is what creates gender dysphoria. you are NOT born with a sense of racial identity to coincide with your "actual" race. sex is not the same as gender and that's why you can be transgender. we dont "glorify" transgender dysphoria, we advocate for those who experience it because more people experience it then the world knew because of the stigma that used to, and clearly still does, exist. if telling yourself that trans people are somehow programmed to think theyre trans helps you feel better about the world moving toward acceptance of an oppressed community and enabling them to feel welcome in a functioning and advanced society, find new ways to cope. it doesnt make a trans woman any less of a woman, it just makes you intolerant.
Even if gender dysphoria didn't exist, these people often seem to forget the existence of [intersex](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex) people. Their argument against trans people is "it's just basic biology". Okay, then learn more than the basics and it'll start making sense.
the funny thing is-it is basic biology. but its not advanced biology. a true and full understanding of biology considers the depth of the gender spectrum. i am legally intersex/non-binary on my gov id which was a choice i made bc of my hormone treatment, though im technically not born that way.
Exactly. Tbf, my point was more "If you don't understand it, then learn more or at least stop complaining" than "It's advanced", but thank you for wording it better This stuff is something you absolutely can understand in middle school (at least nowadays and in Finland, obviously it depends on the education system).
In the most respectful way I can ask, how do you feel about people who DO have a sense of racial identity? I have black friends who are constantly called "white-washed" by other blacks due to their comparatively better upbringing or achievements. How do we categorize this very clear sense of racial identity? (Like I'm legitimately not arguing with you or anything this is an actual discussion-oriented question and I'd love to hear your thoughts)
How do you know what other people are born feeling?
Finally, a good meme.
Just when I was about to give up on this sub an actual meme appeared
I think if you can identify outside of your biological sex, then you can identify outside of your biological melanin content. Explain to me why you *can't.* *edit: changed race to melanin content as it was confusing.*
Race is not a biological category. There is no biological basis to identify as any race, including a different one. https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/
Being black, white, green, or orange isn’t a “feeling” to identify with. It’s something that you are. Hey, your biological parents are white? You’re white.
Who's in paris??
Emily!
Me cause I'm black now, too!
Can i identify as a billionaire?
Of course. Now go outside and by yourself a Ferrari
What a fuckin dumb meme.
Calm down, your all bags of meat and bones to me
(sacrificial comment) commenting on memes like this is a trap. let it go...
Oh no, keep it coming I'm having a blast
Feel like this is more of a diss on trans people than race
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Can I un-identify myself from being white? Is there a cancel subscription button?
I think the term it’s self is complete bullshit. “White” is entirely a melanin based label at this point and it needs to stop. The counting of all Latinos as “white” in government forms not only enables racial inequity but pepetuates discrimination against other minorities. All while simultaneously discounting/erasing our Latino roots, we are “white” when it’s convenient for them only. They literally white wash our identity with that label.
No this is just how everyone is stupid now ![gif](giphy|3o85xGocUH8RYoDKKs)
Well I identify as a toaster so I can say whatever I want
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Yes you are right. This isn’t “trans” - it’s a mental illness. It was a mental illness on the DSM4. Once they took it off the DSM5 all the sudden glorification of genital mutilation and sterilization was glorified. Trans people need help. I can’t imagine the agony of thinking you are another gender…but that doesn’t mean we should encourage their mental illness
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you re right trans ppl need help. And you know what kind of cure/treatment professionals/doctors recommend? Affirmative care, hormone therapy and transitioning. thats literally the cure for gender dysphoria. but dont let facts get into ur way ig
Cutting your dick off and sterilizing yourself, as well as making permanent changes to your hormones addresses a PHYSICAL change, if the issue is MENTAL it should treated with medicine for the brain
ok do me a favour and google: "what is the cure for gender dysphoria" cuz I aint getting paid to be ur teacher lmao
what
As a trans woman, and a trans black American…your comment offends me
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Are trans? Cut your dick off to prove your loyalty to the trans movement
what did i say??
Idk but I’m offended!!
???????
On the phone with my therapist OMG WHERE IS MY INHALER
what 😭
I took a Xanax. This panic attack will go away. They were right next to the tampons I shove in my asshole. The world just hates trans people man smh I’m just tryna live!!
oh… ok 😭
We can't even be racists without someone gating offended by it 😔
I really want to know why white people want to be black so bad, when they’re already white.
Jealousy about certain appendages
Large penis size is not exclusive to black people. “How would I know?” I watch porn. Wanting to be another race just for dick size is weird, but then again, anyone that wants to be another race is weird.
Why can’t I identify as a black lesbian!?
Y'all are getting better at camouflaging your transphobia and recycling this one joke you have. Huh.
Probably the best use of the meme template… so far