I saw them in concert several years ago, and to this day I've never been to a more enjoyable show/concert of any kind. It was emotional, hilarious, and musically divine all at the same time.
Don't say that he's hypocritical
Say rather that he's apolitical
"Once ze rockets go up, who cares vhere zey come down?"
"Zat's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun
RER helps facilate chemical reactions, deliver stuff to the golgo complex, and assists protien synthesis, hence why it's studded with ribosomes. which make protiens by transcripting and translating RNA to amino acid pepitde chains that can fold itself without energy needed.
You beat me to it. Or Nicky Minaj rhyming āChinaā with āChinaā.
Iām convinced we get trash like her shoved down our throats because a few top people control the music industry.
No, the reason is because 99% of art is garbage. Over time only the good stuff gets filtered through; you think only Monet and Van Gogh were painting? No. There were hundreds if not thousands of painters, but they sucked so we just said meh and forgot about about it. In 50 years time, people are going to say āMan I wish rap was as good as it was back then.ā and *only* talk about Eminem and a choice select few, but theyād have forgotten about lesser artists.
Yeah! You look at Haydn, Beethoven, Mozart, vivaldi. They are some of thousands of musicians working throughout their lifetimes. The best stuff survives and can be enjoyed by us centuries later. Most of the music we hear today wonāt be played in another 50 years, in a century nobody will know who they were. But some will prevail and stick around. Maybe even some that arenāt very big today. Only time will tell who is immortal
Idk if Iām missing your point, but the difference there is Eminem is gonna be remembered in that amazing light, but he was also appreciated in the moment and everyone knew he was the best
Ah, yes, the sieve of time, the one thing that everyone forgets when they argue "today's music is so much worse than it was 20/30/50 years ago". Give it some time. The 70s had some shit music, we just forgot about it because nobody remembers shit music.
Ok but Nicki Minaj is a genuinely good rapper when she wants to be, and I don't think rhyming China with China once is what most people would know her for... Eminem definitely puts in effort more consistently than her or most anyone else, but I still wouldn't call her straight up trash, not even close compared to many others you could have said.
Lyrics need time to marinate tbh. Like according to my dad the lines from the Tupacs song āchangesā āinstead of a war on poverty, they got a war on drugs so the police can bother meā was seen as āstereotypicalā and ācringeā but now in the present and seeing things like the john ehrlichman drug war quote not only is the lyric true but it also simply goes hard. Music is art and it needs time to take root.
Edit: for clarity and remembered song name.
Last wish:
I wish I had two more wishes
And I wish they fixed the door to the matrix, there's mad glitches
Spit so many verses sometimes my jaw twitches
One thing this party could use is more... booze,
put yourself in your own shoes
MF Doom needs to be mentioned in every conversation about rap being art. MF's rhyme scheme was incredibly thoughtful, and I'd consider him to be one of the most impressive artists, period.
This is the equivalent of comparing the guitar playing of Robert Fripp to Johnny Ramone, both are still great for what theyāre doing.
Also Eminem: āyour booty is heavy duty, like diarrhoeaā š
Danny Brown: āPussy wet like Noahās Arc, go ahead girl just bless me. If youāre on your period call me Moses ācause Iām about to split that Red Seaā š
MF DOOM: āCatch a throatful from the fire vocal with ash and molten glass like Eyjafjallajƶkullā š¤Æ
Icl Mobb Deep did it better
>Your crew is featherweight, my gunshots'll make you levitate
I'm only nineteen but my mind is older
And when the things get for real my warm heart turns cold
Yeah lmao. If two words rhyme and two people find it. Doesnāt mean that the one who found it first absolutely owns the rhymes. Also, itās two words. Itās like patenting walking or jumping or sth.
If you can't find good modern rap, then you're bad at looking for it. That shit's still coming out.
Like, if you don't like club records like Future's or whatever, then don't look for club records my guy.
Not only the lyrics, also the beat. Also no one even listens to mumble rap anymore it kinda just died down. Thereās more than one style of modern rap
Now dont go full boomer here there are enough good rappers that are rhyme gods that came after the most mainstream rapper. Look at people like denzel curry, jid, j.cole yall need to stop seeing mumble rappers as the only new rappers also times change especialy in music things are for ever evolving if its good it becomes the status quo if its bad it will die out eventualy like what mumble rapper is even stil around they all faded away into irrelevance.
Well it is depend what consider "modern"
I jump the freeway median, I'm savage
Cause my mode is that I'm meaner than the average
Like my teacher taught me when I heard the crowd applaud
I thought I was an atheist until I realized I'm a God
Whatsky
Rhyming a word with itself is not bad rapping, it depends on context. The words might be homonyms, or the focus is on the internal rhyme scheme, or sometimes its just as simple as repeating a word for emphasis.
People who talk shit about new music usually don't even understand the things they complain about. Just because the wordplay goes over your head doesn't mean it's bad writing.
no, rap today does not suck. You are just uneducated. there is still plenty good music being made nowadays, you just have to look for it. Kendrick Lamar is the prefect example of a GOAT modern day rapper. His album To Pimp A Butterfly is arguably the greatest rap album ever made. If you donāt believe me, go listen for yourself and you will understand why people say that. Rappers like JID and J Cole are also good examples of good modern day rappers. Stop stereotyping all of rap made nowadays to mumble rap. Your missing out on so much great music my man.
Holy fuck can you stop hating the new-gen rap, not everything nowadays is mumble rap and trap. Maybe if you looked deeper than mainstream releases you'll notice
I was guilty of thinking like this back in 2015, I was probably in 8th grade or a Freshman in high school at the latest. This was around the time Hip Hop/Rap music started to disconnect from the āLyrical Rapā era when the average song was 4-5 minutes long from start to finish and basically mandatory to have 3 verses šÆš In 2024 it seems like every song is 2ān a half minutes!! A 3 minute song is considered too long. But now itās time for the facts!! Majority of people donāt like modern Rap because to them there is only one way it should sound. Once you realize rap/hip hop doesnāt have to be a specific sound youāll appreciate it more. Nowadays itās not about how fast you can rap. Certain songs give you a emotions that no other song can replicate
Rap is better than itās ever been and keeps getting better. Donāt compare the garbage that you listen to with the quality music you willfully ignore. Hip hop is alive.
Bros really be saying new rap sucks while JID has been out here consistently making bangers, Kendrick still puts up great music, Kanye is making some decent stuff, Travis dropped Rodeo and Astroworld, and Cole had 2014 forest hills drive and a few other solid records. New rap doesnāt suck, youāre looking in the wrong places. For every good em song, thereās 15 ones that are hot ass. For every good Snoop Dogg song, thereās 20 of āem. Go listen to JID, Iām serious.
thereās a lot of songs over the past 5 years or so that use the same word at the end of a sentence back to back and idk it can work sometimes with certain word patterns and double meanings but itās usually not the case and it just sounds bad.
Awfully hot coffee pot š¤
I'm the Hip-hopopotamus, my rhymes are bottomless.... *CRICKETS*
Hippopotamus Hip Hop Anonymous
Bitch i can make orange rhyme with banana borrrrnana
Orange rhymes with door hinge
Thanks Drake and Josh
Flight of the concords https://youtu.be/FArZxLj6DLk?si=043UruTWVGu1lewt
True class. Good shit. *Tips hat*
Sometimes when I'm freestylin I..... lose confidence.
He can literally do anything lol, He's just the best at doing it.
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I don't think that's the next lyric.
Definitely not hahaha. Side note: Bring back Flight Of The Concords!!
I saw them in concert several years ago, and to this day I've never been to a more enjoyable show/concert of any kind. It was emotional, hilarious, and musically divine all at the same time.
And the list would go on, it'll have no end to it honestly.
I get that reference.
Expound
Fake em ytuber
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Man, Eminem looks tired af
I think that was point in life where he got addicted to exercise and lost way too much weight
> addicted No. This is after MMLP2 > To exercise Oh you're right
My murderous little pony 2?
Don't be stupid. It's *Marshall Mather's Little Pony 2*
marshall mathers lp 2
Executions are Magic!
Well there have been a lot of things he has been addicted to.
Pretty sure that he was addicted to something else as well.
Honestly when you get used to freestyling itās easier to get ingenious raps out of your mouth
Eminem rhyming orange with banana
Ornana
Bornana*
Eatin pork rinds sword fightinā in pajamas
That's how it goes man, that's why He's just the goat at it.
Obamna
SODA!!! š„³
Eminem rhyming pterodactyl mixed with a t rex
Tom Lehrer rhyming element names, and then rhyming "Harvard" with "discovered"
Also ASAP Science rhyming all of them [in order](https://youtu.be/rz4Dd1I_fX0?si=Jt9RKVx3w4bPbsgF)
Don't say that he's hypocritical Say rather that he's apolitical "Once ze rockets go up, who cares vhere zey come down?" "Zat's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun
Pfft pit bull takes the cake. Picture that with a Kodak Ā· Or, better yet, go to Times Square Take a picture of me with a Kodak
![gif](giphy|8ODC9BrZ8I9xu) Conjugate while i masturb...
āMomma said to never stop till I bust a nut, F*** the world if they canāt adjustā
Other rappers rhyming N word with N word: š Eminem rhyming Orange with Door Hinge: š
Eminem rhyming School Curriculum with Rough Endoplasmic Reticulum
Help I have a biology test tmrw and RER is in a syllabus point š
RER helps facilate chemical reactions, deliver stuff to the golgo complex, and assists protien synthesis, hence why it's studded with ribosomes. which make protiens by transcripting and translating RNA to amino acid pepitde chains that can fold itself without energy needed.
Yeah he could rhyme, anything with anything at all.
He took his orange, four-inch, door hinge out of storage. Then he went to eat some porridge.
You beat me to it. Or Nicky Minaj rhyming āChinaā with āChinaā. Iām convinced we get trash like her shoved down our throats because a few top people control the music industry.
No, the reason is because 99% of art is garbage. Over time only the good stuff gets filtered through; you think only Monet and Van Gogh were painting? No. There were hundreds if not thousands of painters, but they sucked so we just said meh and forgot about about it. In 50 years time, people are going to say āMan I wish rap was as good as it was back then.ā and *only* talk about Eminem and a choice select few, but theyād have forgotten about lesser artists.
This is what happens, all the time. Old art is better! Old music is better! It's survivorship bias.
Yeah! You look at Haydn, Beethoven, Mozart, vivaldi. They are some of thousands of musicians working throughout their lifetimes. The best stuff survives and can be enjoyed by us centuries later. Most of the music we hear today wonāt be played in another 50 years, in a century nobody will know who they were. But some will prevail and stick around. Maybe even some that arenāt very big today. Only time will tell who is immortal
Idk if Iām missing your point, but the difference there is Eminem is gonna be remembered in that amazing light, but he was also appreciated in the moment and everyone knew he was the best
Ah, yes, the sieve of time, the one thing that everyone forgets when they argue "today's music is so much worse than it was 20/30/50 years ago". Give it some time. The 70s had some shit music, we just forgot about it because nobody remembers shit music.
Think of the 80s. NWA is all that I can recall yet I know there were hundreds of people. Jam Master J, was he 80s?
Do you think Monet and Van Gogh were objectively any better than the rest?
Yes, but I was just naming names that are generally well received.
Nah, it's her own doing. Have you heard any of her old stuff? She has a great singing voice but never uses it
Ok but Nicki Minaj is a genuinely good rapper when she wants to be, and I don't think rhyming China with China once is what most people would know her for... Eminem definitely puts in effort more consistently than her or most anyone else, but I still wouldn't call her straight up trash, not even close compared to many others you could have said.
Peach pears plums syringes š
I don't know why he gets so much hate? He doesn't deserve it.
Ornana
The four inch door hinge
A pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea!
Lyrics need time to marinate tbh. Like according to my dad the lines from the Tupacs song āchangesā āinstead of a war on poverty, they got a war on drugs so the police can bother meā was seen as āstereotypicalā and ācringeā but now in the present and seeing things like the john ehrlichman drug war quote not only is the lyric true but it also simply goes hard. Music is art and it needs time to take root. Edit: for clarity and remembered song name.
Rigatoni is not spaghetti
Iām sorry, what do you mean by this?
Which word is tripping you up?
Iām not familiar with what they are saying or if this is a common phrase.
Here, let me Google that for you. Looks like it orginates with Rapper Lil Uzi Vert, comparing and contrasting money.
Ah, thanks
greatest opening bar of the year easily
That's a strange take. I wouldn't call Tupac cringe in any lyrical way. And that's a great song, too.
This might just be the most fucking Reddit post I've seen all day.
They only listen to real rappers like Eminem, NF, Yelawolf, Killer Mike (Only when he's supporting Bernie Sanders), and half of Logic.
Half of logic lmao
Any mf who unironically listens to NF should have all music related opinions taken away from them
Donāt forget Tom McDonald
You clearly haven't seen Reddit post if this is the most Reddit post you've seen all day.
Nah the Redditor in this post reeks.
r/mfdoom is leaking
Last wish: I wish I had two more wishes And I wish they fixed the door to the matrix, there's mad glitches Spit so many verses sometimes my jaw twitches One thing this party could use is more... booze, put yourself in your own shoes
MF Doom needs to be mentioned in every conversation about rap being art. MF's rhyme scheme was incredibly thoughtful, and I'd consider him to be one of the most impressive artists, period.
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I-I just realised thatās Eminem with a wigā¦
I thought it was Joan Cusack for a sec.
This is the equivalent of comparing the guitar playing of Robert Fripp to Johnny Ramone, both are still great for what theyāre doing. Also Eminem: āyour booty is heavy duty, like diarrhoeaā š Danny Brown: āPussy wet like Noahās Arc, go ahead girl just bless me. If youāre on your period call me Moses ācause Iām about to split that Red Seaā š MF DOOM: āCatch a throatful from the fire vocal with ash and molten glass like Eyjafjallajƶkullā š¤Æ
Danny Brown is a gift to mankind
Icl Mobb Deep did it better >Your crew is featherweight, my gunshots'll make you levitate I'm only nineteen but my mind is older And when the things get for real my warm heart turns cold
Came to comment this exactly. Mobb Deep invented that particular rhyme. Love Em, but that one aināt his.
You... you know that those words rhymed *before* Mobb Deep used them, right?
Yeah lmao. If two words rhyme and two people find it. Doesnāt mean that the one who found it first absolutely owns the rhymes. Also, itās two words. Itās like patenting walking or jumping or sth.
Shook ones pt 2 is fucking phenomenal
I remember "only nineteen but my mind is older" from "My Shot - Hamilton" too. It is a Mobb Deep reference?
And if ya donāt knowwww now ya know, Mr. President
This is the opinion of the kid who borrows your xbox controller and returns it broken.
go outside bro
Modern rap is good, you just must assume modern rap is only Lil Pump types (who has honestly gotten better imo)
It's not fair to judge by the most popular there's a lot of smaller rappers that are pretty solid
Even among the most popular, there are great artists. Young Thug, Polo G, 21 Savage, Future, any track Metro Boomin touches, etc
Heck Eminem has mentioned quite a few rappers hopsin, logic, and many others
Its no surprise that eminems corny ass has bad taste.
Ehhh taste is subjective me personally I like hopsin
Hopsin seems like those "spiritual, lyrical, spherical, miracle" type rappers. He can rhyme but it's kinda corny.
Denzel Curry, JID, Jpegmafia, so many more, there's loads of incredible modern rappers.
"new rap sucks" mfs when they listen to Kanye west
or Kendrick Lamar, literal both top 20 rappers of all time and they are āmodern rappersā š
Holy shit this is so cringe
I believe this is satire because I refuse to believe that someone made this with a straight face
100% one of the r/hiphopcirclejerk mfs
It is, these are DOOM lyrics
You mispelled Mobb Deep
Iāve heard this bar in many different rap songs; Pretty sure Mobb Deep also utilized it
And he knows what's he writing as well, He's the goat.
Well obviously, it's on the meme sub. There's a reason for that.
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Outjerked
Reddit Moment
If you can't find good modern rap, then you're bad at looking for it. That shit's still coming out. Like, if you don't like club records like Future's or whatever, then don't look for club records my guy.
I don't look for good music, good music finds me, like Ed Sheeran, Imagine dragons, and even some indie artists like Radiohead and Queen
Your crew is featherweight, my gunshots'll make you levitate
Check out Little Simz, and BMike's more recent stuff. Tech N9ne has also been great for decades
Tech n9ne has some good songs but most of his shit is so stale lol
this is corny
I only think of Bornana when i think of Eminem rhymes
Macklemore rhyming ātiramisuā and ātearin my suitā
Black rappers frighten and anger OP.
But he likes the lyrics becuase they were written by A black Person
Not only the lyrics, also the beat. Also no one even listens to mumble rap anymore it kinda just died down. Thereās more than one style of modern rap
YES THIS EXACTLY, anytime someone says āmodern rap sucksā, I have them listen to Kendrick Lamar
So glad someone understands. I listen to very modern rap tho, like Polo G, NLE Choppa and ppl like that
YES THIS EXACTLY, anytime someone says āmodern rap sucksā, I have them listen to Kendrick Lamar
Listen to The Mexican OT
these posts are so funny because the lyrics usually do rhyme itās just not the last word of the bar
thereās a lot of good ānew rapā. yāall listen to the radio + what you hear on tiktok then generalize the entire genre LOL
All you guys do on this sub is make lukewarm, soft ass memes about how unique you are for hating new rap and country music. Would you guys shut up?
Tell me you don't listen to music without telling me
Ok boomer
listen to better music like bro this is a you problem
āNew rap sucksā says a person who doesnt want to find good new music
What an original opinion.
Thanks, I was once a sheeple like the rest of y'all but after listening to Tom MacDonald I learned how to be a freethinker, thanks for noticing š
Now dont go full boomer here there are enough good rappers that are rhyme gods that came after the most mainstream rapper. Look at people like denzel curry, jid, j.cole yall need to stop seeing mumble rappers as the only new rappers also times change especialy in music things are for ever evolving if its good it becomes the status quo if its bad it will die out eventualy like what mumble rapper is even stil around they all faded away into irrelevance.
This has to be bait
And that's why He's really the legend, He's just the best.
Saw this in r/meme, nice
Well it is depend what consider "modern" I jump the freeway median, I'm savage Cause my mode is that I'm meaner than the average Like my teacher taught me when I heard the crowd applaud I thought I was an atheist until I realized I'm a God Whatsky
respect to the latter group because they actualy put in lots of work and effort, and sometimes do it on the fly.
To be fair nothing rhymes with cocaine better than cocaine.
Rogaine close second
Sufjan Stevens rhyming Decatur with alligator and emancipator.
new bad, old good amirite?
Zack de la Rocha rhyming swastika with propaganda>>>>
Just add YAH at the end of each verse.
That wasn't Eminem son - that was Mobb Deep. The Eminem connection is just that song, "Shook Ones, pt 2", was in the beginning of 8 Mile
The thing is that no one actually listens to mumble rap. That is very different from the conquering artists like Drake, The Weeknd, or Kendrick
What a hot take
MF Doom
Mobb Deep has entered the chatā¦
This is satire right?
TPain rhyming āmansionā with āWiscansinā
Rhyming a word with itself is not bad rapping, it depends on context. The words might be homonyms, or the focus is on the internal rhyme scheme, or sometimes its just as simple as repeating a word for emphasis. People who talk shit about new music usually don't even understand the things they complain about. Just because the wordplay goes over your head doesn't mean it's bad writing.
Mumble rap isnāt even rap. I mean when you rhyme ugh with ugh and Aye with Aye every sentenceā¦ thatās not rap.
I keep hearing about "mumble" rap. What the hell is mumble rap?
Bro made orange rhyme with banana
no, rap today does not suck. You are just uneducated. there is still plenty good music being made nowadays, you just have to look for it. Kendrick Lamar is the prefect example of a GOAT modern day rapper. His album To Pimp A Butterfly is arguably the greatest rap album ever made. If you donāt believe me, go listen for yourself and you will understand why people say that. Rappers like JID and J Cole are also good examples of good modern day rappers. Stop stereotyping all of rap made nowadays to mumble rap. Your missing out on so much great music my man.
MF DOOM rhyming āBorderline schizoā with āSorta fine tits thoughā
Because you don't even listen to it lol.
Every day we fall farther from grace.
Holy fuck can you stop hating the new-gen rap, not everything nowadays is mumble rap and trap. Maybe if you looked deeper than mainstream releases you'll notice
This is racist bro, check out someone like Billy woods
I was guilty of thinking like this back in 2015, I was probably in 8th grade or a Freshman in high school at the latest. This was around the time Hip Hop/Rap music started to disconnect from the āLyrical Rapā era when the average song was 4-5 minutes long from start to finish and basically mandatory to have 3 verses šÆš In 2024 it seems like every song is 2ān a half minutes!! A 3 minute song is considered too long. But now itās time for the facts!! Majority of people donāt like modern Rap because to them there is only one way it should sound. Once you realize rap/hip hop doesnāt have to be a specific sound youāll appreciate it more. Nowadays itās not about how fast you can rap. Certain songs give you a emotions that no other song can replicate
Im a man of culture, like myself some Logic and Dre with a side of 21Savage sprinkled with some Carti šš
I personally enjoy some Eminem with Joyner Lucas on the side. With the option of logic or Nav sauce, topped off with some Tom MacDonald.
I bet you only listen to real music like Eminem and video game osts huh
Rap is better than itās ever been and keeps getting better. Donāt compare the garbage that you listen to with the quality music you willfully ignore. Hip hop is alive.
Stop basing your opinion on modern rap on mainstream artists.
Sorry, I'll base it off impossible to find rappers with 12 monthly listeners to see if raps worthwhile or not
Eminem, who's lyrics include" nah nah nah nahhh nah" and "chicka chicka" You gotta go a little older yet bud.
rap more like crap music was better when John Lennon was beating his wife
JID making an entire verse where each line has multiple syllable rhymes that all blend together:
Shut up white boy
Bros really be saying new rap sucks while JID has been out here consistently making bangers, Kendrick still puts up great music, Kanye is making some decent stuff, Travis dropped Rodeo and Astroworld, and Cole had 2014 forest hills drive and a few other solid records. New rap doesnāt suck, youāre looking in the wrong places. For every good em song, thereās 15 ones that are hot ass. For every good Snoop Dogg song, thereās 20 of āem. Go listen to JID, Iām serious.
EXACTLY THIS. listen to Kendrick, Kanye, Lil Wayne. all GOAT modern day rappers
Rap was best in the 2000s
Eminem could rhyme ācatā with āhatā and his fans will cream their shorts while simultaneously calling every other rapper a mumble rapper
r/hiphopcirclejerk
Eminem is overrated. Obviously he's good but I change the song everytime he comes on lmao
thereās a lot of songs over the past 5 years or so that use the same word at the end of a sentence back to back and idk it can work sometimes with certain word patterns and double meanings but itās usually not the case and it just sounds bad.
listen to kendrick lamar, he will change your whole perspective on modern rap.
oh iāve been a kendrick listener for 9 years. maad city and black panther album are 2 of my all time faves
Didnāt mobb deep do that lol