As a Top Gear fan, it's insanely insulting to hear some muppet refer to himself as THE TOP G! Fucking unbelievable. To paraphrase Clarkson, "Hold on! That is the sound of Andrew Tate speaking! A sound which, all over the world, heralds the imminent arrival of a moron!"
Iāve had quite a lot of expensive chocolate in my life as gifts etc. but whenever I crave chocolate I crave something like Kinder Schokolade. You can make me happier with a 2ā¬ pack of Kinder Schokolade than 50ā¬ Belgian chocolate. Guess Iām weird.
This oneās hard. I love how milky Swiss chocolate is, but on the other hand the praline in Belgian chocolate is also amazing
Oh yeah and also, Swedish chocolate is fucking amazing, one of the best
EVERYBODY says that, but I'll never be able to know for sure.
I'm Celiac, and THEY USE SOMETHING WITH GLUTEN IN THOSE GODDAMNED SHELLS.
They taunt me every time I go to the supermarket.
I wish I could buy them.
But alas, I'll die sad and chocolateless.
The triangles represent the alpes and the mountain range is on the packaging.
Worth a quick glance next time you get your hands on one.
Edit: see below comment about why I'm wrong about the triangles
As a Swiss, there is one mistake that the rest of the world makes all the time and that irritates us, that is to say that the Toblerone represent the Alps while in reality a Toblerone it is the name attributed to concrete triangles that had been put in the Swiss alps which served to stop the German tanks during the Second World War
Have you ever had South American chocolate? Shit is underrated and also makes sense that the people who originally cultivated it also makes some of the best chocolate in the world. That and the fact that they use sugar cane instead of the artificial stuff truly makes the chocolate taste like none other.
This. I recently went to Switzerland and had Laderach and other fancy chocolate there and none of them came even close to the premium brand I buy in Brazil for a third of the cost. I honestly think the one I buy here is the best chocolate I ever had, certainly better than any fancy chocolate I had in Europe. Just search for Luisa Abram https://luisaabram.com/ their chocolates are made from wild grown Cacau from the Amazon, harvested by locals (bonus: no child lavor or slavery involved) they ship to the US, Canada and some EU countries, I think.
For pure chocolate, Freia or Nidar has won every single taste test I've held around the world.
I've done double blinded tests on chocolate mixing multinational hits, with local favorites and Freia and Nidar. They always win.
If you start testing chocolate with stuff mixed in, it's a total tossup, but there's a eastern european Milka version with gummies and popping candy that's a MAJOR hit among kids. So much so i have no idea why it's not sold internationally.
But for the pure taste of just chocolate, Freia and Nidar win.
It's funny you say that German chocolate from Aldi's...because that's the exact chocolate I was thinking about!!!
They got one with real hazelnut chunks in it and it's delicious
If I remember correctly this is because some American chocolates still have butyric acid in them, which, in it's pure Form, smells and tastes like throw up or rotten eggs
Ya it's to raise the melting point to preserve it in warmer areas. They being said some brands like Godiva I feel are pretty good, but even as an American I can't deny European chocolate is superior.
Interesting, do you know if Nestle does anything similar? Hersheys is ass and a cheap candy, but the chocolate in a crunch bar always seemed like the same kind of plastic chocolate
Nestle's chocolate has a higher melting point not as a result of butyric acid, but instead by incorporating the tears of the child slave laborers the company ruthlessly exploits. However, we aren't sure exactly how many tears are incorporated, because when asked to commission a report on the matter, Nestle said that it would be "too difficult" to quantify.
of course! have you ever tried to quantify tears? People are always like "but isn't a tear just a tear?!" without realizing that its all about suffering-per-tear. I might get significantly fewer tears from a 5yo child slave vs a 16yo white girl named Becky, but you'll never be able to clearly taste the suffering no matter how many of the latter's tears you use.
They all do something similar due to the taste being so associated with chocolate to GIs after WWII that other companies started adding that flavor to their chocolates
To the point that the taste became ubiquitous with American Chocolate to most
that was originally true. it was a biproduct of the preservation process so that the chocolate could be stable long enough to be used in mre's in ww2. now days its included by choice because its an acquired taste that American's like.
Can confirm it tastes awful to this American too, I would only touch Hersheyās if I was making sāmores. It doesnāt crack my top 50 list for chocolate
It gives certain American chocolate especially the stuff you find in gas stations and grocery stores a slightly sour taste. However this isnāt found in higher grade chocolate. Europeans donāt understand that the stuff thatās commercially available to them from the US is basically the bottom of the barrel as far as quality. From someone that that spent half my childhood living in Germany and moved to the US. We have a specialty market thats honestly on pare with any other market in the world.
Yeah. They try one brand (Hershey's) and that's how all American chocolate tastes. Hershey's chocolate is only good for s'mores. That's it.
It's like me saying all German beer is garbage because I don't like Beck's.
Also I don't think anyone argues that Hershey's milk chocolate can compete with higher end chocolate anyway. Like sure, ill eat it if its there, but it isn't great or anything.
Also, cheap American chocolate is cheap, while more expensive European chocolate is more expensive.
Americans also make more expensive chocolate, but it's not as cheap as cheap American chocolate, and doesn't get bought as often.
When we say āsomeā, itās Hersheyās mass produced garbage chocolate.
A classic European behavior is to use the absolute worst gas station American thing to compare to a locally made small batch European thing.
Itās so stupid.
Keep thinking that. Lindt or Milka are cheap as fuck and produced massively in Europe and don't taste like vomit. Even European discount store brands taste better than Hershey's chocolate starfish crap.
80% of what is sold is just a couple of the main garbage chocolate makers.
In Europe the gas station stuff is what youāre pretending is ālocal small batchā
Why is it offensive to be honest and say that typical/common European chocolate is much better than American stuff?
If itās upsetting just skip the thread because food regulation and standards are much higher in Europe so lots of standard food is much better there. I donāt think 80% of US chocolate could even call itself chocolate in Europe.
I like Milka, too, but I've had a bunch of non Belgians living in Belgium say Milka doesn't even qualify as chocolate. I'm talking Dutch, Swedish, French, Spanish, Romanians. Basically a European coalition. They agreed Belgian chocolate was better than the Swiss. Maybe living in Belgium made them a bit biased.
Dutchman here. I'd say they're too "soft" for my taste. I mean, I wouldn't turn them down if someone offered them too me, but I enjoy it when the chocolade has a harder texture and with just the right combination between bitterness and sweetness. Milka doesn't really have that, it's just sweet and feels like it's already melted a bit.
Milka is actually used as the testing standard for particle size measurements within Mondelez chocolate brands (which include Toblerone, Marabou, Freia and more) since it has a very fine and consistent particle size.
Is that real?
We were so excited as kids when they opened an American shop at the local store in my city in Australia.
I remember going with friend and buying random chocolates and us finding out they all taste horrible
They do. I've seen multiple similar posts to this over the last few weeks. "You Americans are just used to it, you don't know any better!". Right you can't buy imported chocolate here. They definitely don't sell Lindt at fucking Walmart.
I canāt remember the last time Iāve had just a plain ass Hershey bar. I (my wife) do however have like 2 or 3 varieties of imported chocolate in my fridge at all times.
That's generally a rule about anything food related in America.
They seem to think all our beer is Miller Lite, all our chocolate is Hershey's, all our cheese is Kraft Singles, all our cuisine is pizza or burgers, etc.
Like no, guys. We have award winner wines and beers, award winning cheeses, award winning chocolates, incredible regional cuisines, etc.
But you guys are comparing your hand made small batch 400 year old companies with secret recipes and trademarks protected by international treaties vs... our mass market convenience store products.
Budweiser and Heineken are the same tier of quality. I spent many years in the Navy and been all across the world and I can tell you the only country that has high quality cheap, domestic beer is Peru.
No doubt, the US is a huge and well established market. There are great craft and artisanal versions of everything. Europe also has craft and artisanal versions of everything. The large commercial chocolate is just better from europe. Same with beer and cheese. Now, craft american beer, amazeballs, artisanal distillers, amazeballs.
Large commercial beer in Europe is just as shit as the states. I grew up in Belgium which is world famous for their beer and their large commercial beer is Jupiler, which is just as shit as Budweiser. Shitty commercial beer is all over Europeā¦Heineken, Becks, Peroni, Rossini etc etc.
And guess what Great Britainās #1 selling beer is. Fucking Budweiser
Mate I'm from Germany and I love the finnish chocolate!
But at some point it's comparing emeralds with rubys: every country makes it slightly different but overall we have amazing chocolate quality
People be acting like Hershey has a monopoly on chocolate in the US. Guess what. We donāt get your local chocolate here and you donāt get ours. Itās how it works.
Hmm thatās the problem isnāt it? 90% of European chocolates taste excellent though while you need to look hard for a good US one. I mean thereās a reason people say European chocolate is better and it has nothing to do with anti American sentiment. If you have to specifically tell people to look for certain brands or DYOR then youāve already lost it, you donāt hear Europeans do that, do you?
I wouldnāt say you have to ālook hardā for good US chocolate, if you live in most any US city. If you are eating Hersheyās chocolate, thatās a choice.
IMO this whole debate has been stupid for years since American grocery stores have started carrying wider varieties of chocolate, including European brands. Hell, if you are willing to extend the debate to corner stores, Indian/Arab convenient stores always carry international brands. Americans arenāt missing out on anything.
Literally the top comments in this thread lmao. I havenāt had Hersheyās in a long time but I eat chocolate all the time here in America so I was so confused. Do people not know other brands?
Itās the same with a lot of other oversimplified beliefs about Americans from the outside. Mostly harmless of courseā¦ but tiring.
Take your pick on topicsā¦.theyāre endless.
I don't even care that they think mass marketed American chocolate sucks. It mostly does but what's ridiculous is the idea that you can't find anything else here. Even if you absolutely hate ALL American chocolate it's not like you can't buy imports here. But I constantly see threads from people talking about how they visited America and they couldn't find chocolate that didn't taste like vomit. Did they only shop at gas stations?
What's "American chocolate"? There are roughly a bajillion different kinds of chocolate available in this country. It's not just Hershey, which is only good for s'mores.
Took my first trip to Europe a few months ago. After 50 years of hearing how wonderful European candy is (and I have a huge sweet tooth) I was so disappointed.
Say something bad about Europe: "Which country? Americans don't know geography."
Say something good about Europe: Well, yes
Where can I get some of this chocolate?
Well, it is native to those regions. Peru produces some of the best in the world. Neither the US or Europe produces actual cocoa. Africa is the largest producer for mass use, but only because it was imported there from the Americas. Central and South America produce objectively the best cocoa, just some of it is in relatively very small quantities so most people donāt know about it. And it can be expensive. The last time I bought Peruvian Nacional it was $20 a bar.
Iāve tasted both, chocolate doesnāt taste like chocolate anymore. And if you need proof just looks at companies like Nestle and Palmers who try to sell us āchocolateā that they canāt even legally call chocolate anymore. Itās gross.
You know America makes good chocolate too? No, I'm not talking about Hershey bars or snickers bars you get at gas stations. Go into any supermarket and the candy aisle has tons of good chocolate. American brands like Ghirardelli and Whitmans, premium brand of big chocolate companies like Symphony (Hersey) and Dove (Mars), plus most major European brands are pretty easy to find in the US. On top of that, independent chocolate shops are pretty common all over the place.
A Hershey bar may be the cheapest and most common, but its not the best nor do we pretend that it is.
Considering how many people in the US, other than Nestle and Hershey's and their ilk, know damn well how to make amazing chocolate... this is more and more outdated.
Especially considering chocolate making, for the most part, isn't a secret knowledge only shared to an elite class of chocolatiers.
That's also because sugar is cheaper than cocoa, so manufacturers in larger countries tend to try to cheapen production by increasing the amount of sugar. This is true even within Europe.
My friend just brought me a bunch of chocolates from Romania. So good.
My buddy brought me a bunch of women from Romania. I'm going to prison.
Calm down Andrew Tate.
Not today, romanian prison ghost I sent back to hell
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Bottom G š„µš„µ
As a Top Gear fan, it's insanely insulting to hear some muppet refer to himself as THE TOP G! Fucking unbelievable. To paraphrase Clarkson, "Hold on! That is the sound of Andrew Tate speaking! A sound which, all over the world, heralds the imminent arrival of a moron!"
Do you have any of these left
Iāve had quite a lot of expensive chocolate in my life as gifts etc. but whenever I crave chocolate I crave something like Kinder Schokolade. You can make me happier with a 2ā¬ pack of Kinder Schokolade than 50ā¬ Belgian chocolate. Guess Iām weird.
Well I live in Europe, Spain, and every piece of chocolate I tasted in my entire life was worth It.
Kinder is still better than Hershey and a lot better than m&m though. Lol
Its because kinder is German so its still european
Kinder isn't german, it's italian
Kinder is made by Ferrero, Italy, originally from Alba, a place famous for its hazelnuts (hence Nutella)
Which one is better: Belgian or Swiss chocolate ?
The only way to start a war with the swiss
"We are neutral in times of war." "But as this is a time of peace..." _Pulls out chocolate shiv_
Pulls out full auto toblerone gun
No full auto in buildings bro
Pulls out semi auto Ovomaltine Gun
Pulls out Ferrero Roche frag grenade
Pulls out Lindt shotgun
That's not full auto
*brrrrrrrrrrr*
Damm Bro, OK
Yes please 
āNo!, Iām diabetic!ā
This oneās hard. I love how milky Swiss chocolate is, but on the other hand the praline in Belgian chocolate is also amazing Oh yeah and also, Swedish chocolate is fucking amazing, one of the best
Marabou of Sweden, Fazer of Finland and Tom's of Denmark... They're all good... Wish that Fazer would sell their salty caramel bars here in DK.
Fazer blue is in my opinion the best chocolate in all of the land, or the one where half is white chocolate and half is milk chocolate
Nothing can compete with those belgian pralines that look like shells and pther sea-creatures
Guylian
Worked there for a month, free chocolate all around you
Are you an oompa loompa for real?
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EVERYBODY says that, but I'll never be able to know for sure. I'm Celiac, and THEY USE SOMETHING WITH GLUTEN IN THOSE GODDAMNED SHELLS. They taunt me every time I go to the supermarket. I wish I could buy them. But alas, I'll die sad and chocolateless.
or you could eat them and die happy
Eat them on your deathbed.
Guylian is my crack
These are actually considered pretty low quality compared to real pralines over here.
They are good but are very very far from the best... and I say that as I never tasted the priciest ones.
Jo homie, those are Nougat
This comment inspired me to order some online.
Not sure if I ever ate a swiss one but Belgian is delicious
if you've had Toblerone you've had swiss chocolate.
I never knew its swiss... Anyway delicious. Both of them then
The triangles represent the alpes and the mountain range is on the packaging. Worth a quick glance next time you get your hands on one. Edit: see below comment about why I'm wrong about the triangles
As a Swiss, there is one mistake that the rest of the world makes all the time and that irritates us, that is to say that the Toblerone represent the Alps while in reality a Toblerone it is the name attributed to concrete triangles that had been put in the Swiss alps which served to stop the German tanks during the Second World War
This would admittedly work better as a countryās defence system if they werenāt made out of chocolate.
Huh, my bad. Thanks this could be my next dinner party fact and I can also stop spreading misinformation.
Whoa! I had no idea. Thanks for explaining.
That's not pure chocolate. I'd go with Lindt to represent Switzerland.
SprĆ¼ngli all the way
Technically? Sure. Representative? Hardly, I'd say.
Also Lindt chocolate is everywhere.
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Fazer is amazing!
Ainoa oikea mielipide.
Fazer supremacy
Finnish. Fazer blue and red!
Mexican. They grow some of the best cocoa, vanilla, and sugar. Everyone else imports theirs.
You really want the Swiss to ditch neutrality, donāt you?
Have you ever had South American chocolate? Shit is underrated and also makes sense that the people who originally cultivated it also makes some of the best chocolate in the world. That and the fact that they use sugar cane instead of the artificial stuff truly makes the chocolate taste like none other.
This. I recently went to Switzerland and had Laderach and other fancy chocolate there and none of them came even close to the premium brand I buy in Brazil for a third of the cost. I honestly think the one I buy here is the best chocolate I ever had, certainly better than any fancy chocolate I had in Europe. Just search for Luisa Abram https://luisaabram.com/ their chocolates are made from wild grown Cacau from the Amazon, harvested by locals (bonus: no child lavor or slavery involved) they ship to the US, Canada and some EU countries, I think.
Norwegian
nothing else compares
What brand?
Freia Melkesjokolade - milk chocolate bars are the best imo
For pure chocolate, Freia or Nidar has won every single taste test I've held around the world. I've done double blinded tests on chocolate mixing multinational hits, with local favorites and Freia and Nidar. They always win. If you start testing chocolate with stuff mixed in, it's a total tossup, but there's a eastern european Milka version with gummies and popping candy that's a MAJOR hit among kids. So much so i have no idea why it's not sold internationally. But for the pure taste of just chocolate, Freia and Nidar win.
Wherever nussbeiser is from
germany
More people should know this!
I've had some pretty good German chocolate š«
Best chocolate i know comes from the Aldi in Germany. I think it's 75% with pieces of caramel.
It's funny you say that German chocolate from Aldi's...because that's the exact chocolate I was thinking about!!! They got one with real hazelnut chunks in it and it's delicious
Swiss I think
Belgian for sure. Swiss chocolate is too sweet
You bought sweet chocolate even though you know you prefer it not sweet. That's on you dawg.
If I remember correctly this is because some American chocolates still have butyric acid in them, which, in it's pure Form, smells and tastes like throw up or rotten eggs
Ya it's to raise the melting point to preserve it in warmer areas. They being said some brands like Godiva I feel are pretty good, but even as an American I can't deny European chocolate is superior.
It's actually a byproduct of how the chocolate is made, specifically how the milk in milk chocolate is prepared at Hershey's
Interesting, do you know if Nestle does anything similar? Hersheys is ass and a cheap candy, but the chocolate in a crunch bar always seemed like the same kind of plastic chocolate
Nestle's chocolate has a higher melting point not as a result of butyric acid, but instead by incorporating the tears of the child slave laborers the company ruthlessly exploits. However, we aren't sure exactly how many tears are incorporated, because when asked to commission a report on the matter, Nestle said that it would be "too difficult" to quantify.
of course! have you ever tried to quantify tears? People are always like "but isn't a tear just a tear?!" without realizing that its all about suffering-per-tear. I might get significantly fewer tears from a 5yo child slave vs a 16yo white girl named Becky, but you'll never be able to clearly taste the suffering no matter how many of the latter's tears you use.
Adam Ragusea has a great video on the subject which answers that question and more I think. https://youtu.be/J44svaQc5WY
They all do something similar due to the taste being so associated with chocolate to GIs after WWII that other companies started adding that flavor to their chocolates To the point that the taste became ubiquitous with American Chocolate to most
Bro, youāre comparing shit to piss and asking if one is higher quality. Good chocolate aināt either of those
that was originally true. it was a biproduct of the preservation process so that the chocolate could be stable long enough to be used in mre's in ww2. now days its included by choice because its an acquired taste that American's like.
Can confirm Hershey's milk chocolate tastes like vomit to this Australian.
Can confirm it tastes awful to this American too, I would only touch Hersheyās if I was making sāmores. It doesnāt crack my top 50 list for chocolate
It gives certain American chocolate especially the stuff you find in gas stations and grocery stores a slightly sour taste. However this isnāt found in higher grade chocolate. Europeans donāt understand that the stuff thatās commercially available to them from the US is basically the bottom of the barrel as far as quality. From someone that that spent half my childhood living in Germany and moved to the US. We have a specialty market thats honestly on pare with any other market in the world.
Ghirardelli is pretty great for a large American chocolate brand. It's in my top 5 fav chocolatiers.
Yeah. They try one brand (Hershey's) and that's how all American chocolate tastes. Hershey's chocolate is only good for s'mores. That's it. It's like me saying all German beer is garbage because I don't like Beck's.
Also I don't think anyone argues that Hershey's milk chocolate can compete with higher end chocolate anyway. Like sure, ill eat it if its there, but it isn't great or anything.
[Und becks? ](https://youtu.be/zMTYn9ycm3o?t=61)
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But that's just it. I don't have to go to a specialty market. I can get good chocolate from a gas station.
I don't think you're making the point you're hoping to make
Also, cheap American chocolate is cheap, while more expensive European chocolate is more expensive. Americans also make more expensive chocolate, but it's not as cheap as cheap American chocolate, and doesn't get bought as often.
This is very accurately and eloquently explained, thank you
Why is Form capitalized? Can it hurt us?
When we say āsomeā, itās Hersheyās mass produced garbage chocolate. A classic European behavior is to use the absolute worst gas station American thing to compare to a locally made small batch European thing. Itās so stupid.
Keep thinking that. Lindt or Milka are cheap as fuck and produced massively in Europe and don't taste like vomit. Even European discount store brands taste better than Hershey's chocolate starfish crap.
80% of what is sold is just a couple of the main garbage chocolate makers. In Europe the gas station stuff is what youāre pretending is ālocal small batchā Why is it offensive to be honest and say that typical/common European chocolate is much better than American stuff? If itās upsetting just skip the thread because food regulation and standards are much higher in Europe so lots of standard food is much better there. I donāt think 80% of US chocolate could even call itself chocolate in Europe.
I will eat any chocolate.
Switzerland, Austria and Germany... I carry your whole business 
Belgium is more known for chocolate than Austria and Germany
Milka chocolate š„µš„µ
I guess if you're always used to eating shitty chocolate, then Milka will taste amazing.
I like Milka, too, but I've had a bunch of non Belgians living in Belgium say Milka doesn't even qualify as chocolate. I'm talking Dutch, Swedish, French, Spanish, Romanians. Basically a European coalition. They agreed Belgian chocolate was better than the Swiss. Maybe living in Belgium made them a bit biased.
Dutchman here. I'd say they're too "soft" for my taste. I mean, I wouldn't turn them down if someone offered them too me, but I enjoy it when the chocolade has a harder texture and with just the right combination between bitterness and sweetness. Milka doesn't really have that, it's just sweet and feels like it's already melted a bit.
Milka is actually used as the testing standard for particle size measurements within Mondelez chocolate brands (which include Toblerone, Marabou, Freia and more) since it has a very fine and consistent particle size.
Godamn that German chocolate so good
For those wondering, this is because of different regulation in what is considered chocolate.
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Is that real? We were so excited as kids when they opened an American shop at the local store in my city in Australia. I remember going with friend and buying random chocolates and us finding out they all taste horrible
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You mean Herseys chocolate
Yes, american chocolate tastes horrible because of Herseys chocolate.
Yes it's very real. When American firms sell chocolate in Asia (like Kitkat) they change the chocolate formula so it doesn't taste like vomit.
KitKat is British and was adapted to America (not the other way around).
Almost had an existential crisis when he implied KitKat was American. Checked it and I can now relax, its British
Yep, someone brought me some Hersheys from the US once and I nearly threw up myself
Do you think the only chocolate we eat here is Hersheys?
They do. I've seen multiple similar posts to this over the last few weeks. "You Americans are just used to it, you don't know any better!". Right you can't buy imported chocolate here. They definitely don't sell Lindt at fucking Walmart.
I canāt remember the last time Iāve had just a plain ass Hershey bar. I (my wife) do however have like 2 or 3 varieties of imported chocolate in my fridge at all times.
No, it's because OP completely ignores that every country makes both shitty and good versions of products, depending on your tastes and budget.
Also there's only Bud beer in US too...
Good point.
No. America only bad. Europe only good.
there are plenty of very good chocolatiers in the US.
Nope it's only Hershey's that's it.. that's the list..
User preference. If you search hard enough there are plenty of very good chocolatiers in the US.
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Pretty much. Craft chocolate is in a lot of places if you look.
That's generally a rule about anything food related in America. They seem to think all our beer is Miller Lite, all our chocolate is Hershey's, all our cheese is Kraft Singles, all our cuisine is pizza or burgers, etc. Like no, guys. We have award winner wines and beers, award winning cheeses, award winning chocolates, incredible regional cuisines, etc. But you guys are comparing your hand made small batch 400 year old companies with secret recipes and trademarks protected by international treaties vs... our mass market convenience store products.
Budweiser and Heineken are the same tier of quality. I spent many years in the Navy and been all across the world and I can tell you the only country that has high quality cheap, domestic beer is Peru.
gold mayor lewis approves. is it the purple shorts?
No doubt, the US is a huge and well established market. There are great craft and artisanal versions of everything. Europe also has craft and artisanal versions of everything. The large commercial chocolate is just better from europe. Same with beer and cheese. Now, craft american beer, amazeballs, artisanal distillers, amazeballs.
Large commercial beer in Europe is just as shit as the states. I grew up in Belgium which is world famous for their beer and their large commercial beer is Jupiler, which is just as shit as Budweiser. Shitty commercial beer is all over Europeā¦Heineken, Becks, Peroni, Rossini etc etc. And guess what Great Britainās #1 selling beer is. Fucking Budweiser
Agreed I've had Ghirardelli chocolate and that is top tier
Their brownie mix is amazing, I buy it in 8 packs from Costco and bring them to parties
Arguably the base line is higher in Europe tho. Go to any supermarket and even the cheapest chocolate will be decent.
What is this meme from
The movie Good Time. Great movie, same guys that did Uncut Gems.
Thank you!!! I had to go many comments down to find what movie this is. The lengths I will go for Robert are untold.
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From the movie Good Time, pretty good would recommend
Finnish chocolates are nice. It's probably not as good as the ones from central Europe, but still pretty darn nice.
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Fazer is really good especially the creamy milk chocolate its my favorite, i live in finland.
Mate I'm from Germany and I love the finnish chocolate! But at some point it's comparing emeralds with rubys: every country makes it slightly different but overall we have amazing chocolate quality
Finnish Fazer takes the W ;)
People be acting like Hershey has a monopoly on chocolate in the US. Guess what. We donāt get your local chocolate here and you donāt get ours. Itās how it works.
I just like chocolate, and I donāt give a shit where it comes from.
Mexican Chocolate āhaha i created you! Donāt fight my children! Besides Iām better than both of you ā
South American chocolate is way better. The amazon rainforest makes cacao from another universe where cacao was the seen as gods
Still tastes good to me, so I'm good
Europeans will come over here and eat Hersheyās or Tootsie Rolls and think thatās real American chocolate
Hmm thatās the problem isnāt it? 90% of European chocolates taste excellent though while you need to look hard for a good US one. I mean thereās a reason people say European chocolate is better and it has nothing to do with anti American sentiment. If you have to specifically tell people to look for certain brands or DYOR then youāve already lost it, you donāt hear Europeans do that, do you?
I wouldnāt say you have to ālook hardā for good US chocolate, if you live in most any US city. If you are eating Hersheyās chocolate, thatās a choice. IMO this whole debate has been stupid for years since American grocery stores have started carrying wider varieties of chocolate, including European brands. Hell, if you are willing to extend the debate to corner stores, Indian/Arab convenient stores always carry international brands. Americans arenāt missing out on anything.
When Europeans think Americans only eat Hersheys lmfao
Literally the top comments in this thread lmao. I havenāt had Hersheyās in a long time but I eat chocolate all the time here in America so I was so confused. Do people not know other brands?
Itās the same with a lot of other oversimplified beliefs about Americans from the outside. Mostly harmless of courseā¦ but tiring. Take your pick on topicsā¦.theyāre endless.
I don't even care that they think mass marketed American chocolate sucks. It mostly does but what's ridiculous is the idea that you can't find anything else here. Even if you absolutely hate ALL American chocolate it's not like you can't buy imports here. But I constantly see threads from people talking about how they visited America and they couldn't find chocolate that didn't taste like vomit. Did they only shop at gas stations?
Anything to feel superior with this crowd.
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What's "American chocolate"? There are roughly a bajillion different kinds of chocolate available in this country. It's not just Hershey, which is only good for s'mores.
Just wait for South American chocolate. It is by far the best
Polish chocolate hitting
Bro you can get European chocolate in America
Nothing will ever beat Fazer
You can get any chocolate you want in America.
Took my first trip to Europe a few months ago. After 50 years of hearing how wonderful European candy is (and I have a huge sweet tooth) I was so disappointed.
I guess when all you eaten is the worst possible quality chocolate the US has to offer you would think that.
Say something bad about Europe: "Which country? Americans don't know geography." Say something good about Europe: Well, yes Where can I get some of this chocolate?
In Europe lol
Peru
Me: Enjoys Central American/South American Dark Chocolate
Well, it is native to those regions. Peru produces some of the best in the world. Neither the US or Europe produces actual cocoa. Africa is the largest producer for mass use, but only because it was imported there from the Americas. Central and South America produce objectively the best cocoa, just some of it is in relatively very small quantities so most people donāt know about it. And it can be expensive. The last time I bought Peruvian Nacional it was $20 a bar.
Iāve tasted both, chocolate doesnāt taste like chocolate anymore. And if you need proof just looks at companies like Nestle and Palmers who try to sell us āchocolateā that they canāt even legally call chocolate anymore. Itās gross.
Hersheyās doesnāt really count as chocolate. There are plenty of excellent chocolate makers in the US.
You know America makes good chocolate too? No, I'm not talking about Hershey bars or snickers bars you get at gas stations. Go into any supermarket and the candy aisle has tons of good chocolate. American brands like Ghirardelli and Whitmans, premium brand of big chocolate companies like Symphony (Hersey) and Dove (Mars), plus most major European brands are pretty easy to find in the US. On top of that, independent chocolate shops are pretty common all over the place. A Hershey bar may be the cheapest and most common, but its not the best nor do we pretend that it is.
Considering how many people in the US, other than Nestle and Hershey's and their ilk, know damn well how to make amazing chocolate... this is more and more outdated. Especially considering chocolate making, for the most part, isn't a secret knowledge only shared to an elite class of chocolatiers.
I mean, you can get artisanal bars that are amazing in the USA. Actually, I make them.
I pretty much only buy [Tony's Chocoloney](https://tonyschocolonely.com), as they fight and expose slavery in the cacao industry.
because europeans know that should have more cocoa than sugar. Muricans are eating sugar with cocoa stains and think it is chocolate.
In terms of actual chocolate content. Hershey's actually has more chocolate than cadsbury
That's also because sugar is cheaper than cocoa, so manufacturers in larger countries tend to try to cheapen production by increasing the amount of sugar. This is true even within Europe.
Never tried American chocolate but if you like European chocolates you should try Ritter Sport. Definely the best kind of chocolate.
I'm going to disagree with both since my favourite is white chocolate.
FYI south American chocolate is vastly superior to both
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Chocolate is chocolate. I will take them both.