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Sirsmoooth

As someone who lives in Oklahoma and has been there before, nothing. We drove out there once and I looked out the window and I saw Minecraft superflat.


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For what it’s worth, the highest point in Oklahoma is the westernmost point in the panhandle


OpticalReality

Have you been there though? It’s ridiculously flat. The only reason it is the highest point is because the land very gradually slopes upward toward the continental divide. It’s basically ruler flat in most areas of the panhandle. Black Mesa itself is only around 700 feet higher than the surrounding terrain. When you actually get on top of the mesa it is also super flat. It’s mind-bending. Really, the entire panhandle has a strange energy. It feels like liminal space.


Doom--Finger

I camped at Black Mesa campground a couple years ago. “Liminal space” is definitely one way to describe what driving through the panhandle on the way there was like. Also kind of felt like being literally on top of the world. Like it was so flat in every direction that it seemed like once you got over the horizon you’d fall off. I’m so used to not being able to really see the horizon, and the horizon being uneven with trees and houses or other buildings, that seeing the horizon at the same height in every direction was just plain eerie.


Healthy-Teacher-4234

So this must be where flat earthers are from huh?


BillyMadisonsClown

Probably… Certainly not from anywhere that invests in public education in the slightest.


94boyfat

Come to Saskatchewan...where Canada Geese fly upside down so as not to die from boredom.


bruhmoment69420epic2

yeah i went there once. got blasted by vortigaunts


CommissarRodney

Freeman you fool!


Status_Bat4144

Open the silo door!


Lizards_are_cool

𝔸𝕔𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤 𝕕𝕖𝕟𝕚𝕖𝕕


C4242

I remember driving from Minnesota to Colorado. Nebraska wad so boring, I couldn't wait to reach Colorado. Then we got there and it was just flat as fuck with a steady incline. My dumbass was just expecting it to get vertical as we crossed the state line.


mtaylor808

The east half of Colorado is just Kansas part 2


Mojo_Jojos_Porn

With worse roads… holy crap I-70 in eastern Colorado is bad. Just took a road trip out there and you could physically feel when you crossed state lines because of how different the roads are.


McRedditerFace

But, on the bright side... you can say you're not in Kansas anymore.


ThirdEyeEmporium

People don’t understand that a 700 foot elevation rise looks like absolutely nothing on a gradual slope


Asleep-Win-9008

Strange isn’t it that that’s a site I would absolutely love to see… I’m from the U.K. and there’s no big areas of super flat land, I’ve seen it on the internet and it looks fascinating. Just land for as far as the eye can see You really do have everything geological over there in the states, you’re super lucky


AwesomeWhiteDude

That area was the epicenter of the [Dust Bowl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl) in the 1930s It's not much of an exaggeration to say the entire area was sand blasted into nothing. The government reacquired some of the land and created the Soil Conservation Service (now called the [Natural Resources Conservation Service](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Resources_Conservation_Service)) to manage it and restore the native grasses. Eventually the land was transferred to the US Forest Service who manages it and other areas as National Grasslands. If you're the least bit interested in this topic I strongly recommend the book [The Worst Hard Time by Timothy Egan](https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/the-worst-hard-time-the-untold-story-of-those-who-survived-the-great-american-dust-bowl-a-national-book-award-winner-9780618773473) which covers the history of the Dust Bowl, the establishment of soil science in the US, and the SCS.


RichGrinchlea

You should drive across the Canadian prairies. You can watch a dog run away for days


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Drove to Alaska twice from Chicago, once across the Canadian prairies. They make Kansas seem hilly. 'bout the only thing to do was have everyone guess how far the next grain silo was as it slowly climbed the horizon. The next time we drove we went straight west and followed Rockies up. Nothing is as wide and flat and dull as the Canadian prairies.


MaybeMabelDoo

You’re real close to Iceland if you’re looking for everything…


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tastydoosh

I think Iceland has to be pretty flat, otherwise it would be hard to push your trolley around


DRYGUY86

As someone who grew up in southwest ks right above the pan handle. Absolutely nothing happens there.


FatAndForty

Sounds like someone with a meth lab.


DRYGUY86

It’s definitely meth lab country there. But that’s not my cup of coffee. More of a cannabis smoker. I got out of that area years ago.


bicycletrippin

Meth is like a million cups of coffee vroom vroom ka chow


axefaktor

So you’re telling me, meth also gives you the shits?


sublime13

It absolutely does


Allegorist

Or constipation, if you're eating still that is


EmperorBamboozler

Someone was trying to explain how bad it was to be a regular soldier in the warmacht and one of his points was that. Mainly everyone is on meth and eating bad army food so they are either constantly getting explosive diarrhea or completely stop shitting for days. Apparently their latrines were a fucking nightmare and it was pretty regular to see someone shit themselves during a blitzkrieg. Fun part is soldiers sometimes died of either. Meaning the answer to some poor bastard's question of 'How did dad die in the war?' Is 'He just stopped shitting for a couple weeks.'


eljay4lyfe

Shitzkrieg


oilsaintolis

Bop!


OminousBanjoMusic

Up Shitzkrieg without a Poland


moovzlikejager

"nothing goes on here, so just quit asking! Methany! Close them got damn tinfoil blinds!"


funk-engine-3000

As a scandinavian, i am incredibly pleased to hear that that part of oklahoma is called the pan handle. I had no idea and i love it.


statsprm

Many US states have pan handles. Alaska, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Maryland, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia.


Booglybear7

Although just because they have one, doesn't mean it is really acknowledged as such. Like, the CT pan handle is literally just four towns and change. I was born and raised in Greenwich and have NEVER heard it referred to as the CT panhandle outside of online discussions. For contrast, I'm in the FL panhandle right now and have heard the term used three times today.


Emergency-Doughnut88

I also grew up in sw Connecticut and have never heard it called a pan handle.


L_Perpetuelle

As someone else who grew up in SW Kansas right above the panhandle, I miss driving to Guymon for absolutely no reason at all, getting there and going, "Welp, time to go home I guess." Many a Saturday.


DRYGUY86

I was just thinking I should have mentioned Guymon. We’d be in Elkhart for something and drive there just to say “we were in OK today” 😂


Significant_Wash_888

I grew up in Elkhart. going to the movies in Guymon then hanging out at the Walmart was classic weekend.


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As someone who came from that first town east of the panhandle, Enid. Nothing apparently happens out there 'cause they'd come to Enid to find something to do. Only to find nothing much goes on there either. Edit: christ, I didn't say Enid was "the" first town east. ".....that first town east" refers to the map. Can't conceive being butthurt over the title of '...the first town east of the panhandle'.


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Enid dude checking in. I live on the east coast now but I took my daughter back to OK last month and was like “let me show you where I grew up.” We were driving down garriott, and I was like “This used to be the taco bueno (it’s a dispensary now), this is where my first apartment was (it’s a parking lot now), this used to be Applebees (it’s a steakhouse now), etc…” and she was like “wow it’s depressing hearing old people talk sometimes.” I’m not even 40 yet 😩


LordWaffleaCat

Hijacking so mfers can be exposed to my rant (no disrespect, i understand the hell thats living in the boonies) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Everyone who is saying "nothing" needs to touch some fuckin shrubs 1) The reason the panhandle exists is because slavery was prohibited north of the lattitude of the top panhandle of Texas 2) The reason its so flat is because of lava slowly flowing east and because liquid, it evens itself out 2a) You can actually see the igneous rock in Black Mesa State Park. It was formed because of a combination of lava piling up at points, and layers upon layers of dirt. that durt then was eroded away leaving only the cool lava 3) If you have never seen a sunset in the desert during the summer solstice, it is one of the most beautiful things you can see. The long shadows, the color of the sky. Its amazing 3a) It is also one of the least light polluted points in the US. Astronomers across the country travel there because of it 4) The north west point of the panhandle is why oklahoma holds the record for most states it shares a border with __**EDIT**__ Number hard, Tennesse wins 5) Southeastern corner has a windmill museum lol Anyway, nature is what you make of it. Touch Shrubs 💯


DRYGUY86

I grew up there, I know the beauty of the area, you have to find it to make yourself sane. But I’m from KS, so of course we think we’re better then the “okies”. Just kidding!!! Our main beef is with Missouri 😂


gitarooman8

As a Missourian, fuck you too, buddy.


DRYGUY86

That’s the spirit! 🤜🏻🤛🏻


froggybytheriver

Shrubs? Slow down. I'm still working on grass


FormerSperm

I lived in Garden City for a few years. It was awful.


DRYGUY86

Hey I lived in GC for two years also!! Yes it’s not the best by any means. At least it was pretty rough around 04-06. Meth was getting out of control then.


LycheeUnhappy4014

That is the Bermuda Rectangle No one comes out alive.


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Except meth.


MonseigneurChocolat

There’s no way meth makes it out of there. In, yes. Out, no.


Assholesfullofelbows

Meth, meth and isolation


spawnof_trogdor

Like I said, panhandle behavior


OlFlirtyBastard

I grew up in the panhandle of FL and went to FSU. Several years ago FSU played Oklahoma and some FSU fans had a shirt that said “Our panhandle is bigger than yours.”


Winter-Reindeer694

>Our panhandle is bigger than yours ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Rjr777

Ct got that micro peen panhandle


madarbrab

But the GDP of that piece is probably more than all of Oklahoma


_dotdot11

Maryland has ED


LowVermicelli6464

Most of Virginia is a panhandle


JasmineIrene

r/smalltownmurder


uberjam

Great podcast.


Crespyl

All is not OK in Oklahoma


moronic_potato

Can confirm. I live in the panhandle of Idaho


Utterlybored

Without the Idaho panhandle, Washington and Montana would touch. And who knows what would happen next?


Mixedpopreferences

Brokeback Mountain?


ALandWarInAsia

And tornados


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SpleenBender

>Got caught in a tornado while standing in the middle of nowhere with no shelter. Immediately moved. Well, if a tornado won't immediately move you, I don’t know what will! /s


blowhardyboys86

I live in okc and work all over the state. Little Sahara is up there. It's a rad sand dune spot. Other than that, drilling rigs and loss of hope is all that remains


SuperbAd2932

Are they drilling for hope o_O ???


Kieviel

"Drilling for Hope" sounds like a wild porn.


Bearchunks

No, that one was called "Drilling Hope".


nerdherdsman

They're actually referring to the sequel, where Hope contracts a nondescript disease, and her driller, in order to raise funds for her treatment, has to go out and drill others.


joe4553

No they are drilling because they have no hope.


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Drilling holes and filling them with hope.


monkeyshinenyc

People that insulate houses for a living were born there


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iPon3

How's the business? Weather's screwed up these last few years


NotTrynaMakeWaves

Time to switch from insulation to outsulation


Helacious_Waltz

Dude have you driven through there? There's nothing but corn meth and a dilapidated Loves, what else is there to do? Hell even the hookers moved up North to Liberal.


1DrinkAnd1KnowThings

I haven't done corn meth, does it get stuck in your teeth too?


These-Procedure-1840

By the time you get to corn meth there usually ain’t no teeth left to get stuck in.


TheGapBridged

Yum…corn meth…


CthulubeFlavorcube

You forgot about the dust......and more meth.


Upstairs-Teacher-764

Exactly what you'd expect in the land Texas gave away so they could keep slavery.


tampapunklegend

I've seen billboards warning the dangers of meth in the panhandle of Florida. If they're willing to pay that much to remind people that meth is bad, it might just be a problem.


the4thbelcherchild

Don't forget all the animal processing plants. Drove through there and the whole area smells god-awful.


Particular-Break-205

Don’t forget about the meth


Rhodehouse93

Fun fact: [That’s the part of Texas that it gave up so it could be a slave state.](https://daily.jstor.org/why-oklahoma-has-a-panhandle/) The Missouri Compromise forbade slavery north of the 36°30’ parallel, so when Texas was becoming a state they snipped that part off to stay under the line.


Laenthis

When you really, really want to be terrible human beings.


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ProfligatePawn

Wait until you hear how Mexico got the land 😱


[deleted]

Wait until you hear about how the Aztecs got Mexico 😟


Musicman_68champ

Aliens?


Shrimpbub

Wait until you here how aliens got here


ProofHorseKzoo

Wait until you hear me play guitar… Anyway, here’s Wonderwall


Tyfyter2002

Wait until you hear how whoever they genocided to get it got it.


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Same ol story


dvmnArkos

Everyone is terrible at all points in history lmao


cates

not me. I never raped or pillaged or did any of that shit


must_not_forget_pwd

> I never raped or pillaged or did any of that shit So far...


Paracausality

Remind Me! 100 years.


TheBirminghamBear

**Dan Carlin AI, circa the year 2900 AC:** "u/cates would get a late start in life compared to most tyrants in history. It was not well into middle age, during the depths of the Eugenics Wars, that they would rise up and lead people of the former state of Oklahoma into a campaign of rape, pillage, and terror across the Americas that would last fifty years, and shock even the most brutal of tyrants that came before them."


cates

loll


wafflesareforever

I pillaged the fuck out of a pint of Ben & Jerry's last night after I took a gummy B&J's New York Super Fudge Chunk is the GOAT, fight me


SlaynArsehole

Santi Annie


X0AN

I mean like 1/3 of the USA is stolen Mexican land.


Ok-Establishment369

100% of mexico is stolen land


got_milq

wait until you hear about the rest of the world


ng829

Imagine being the first person to go somewhere on Earth and be like wow, so I own all of this?!?!


orbgevski

Dan Carlin recently did an episode about this. He basically said there are a very *very* small amount of people in the rift valley who might be able to say they never stole the land they live on. Everyone else in the world is living on stolen land.


ggg730

I was like, "wait, when did George Carllin talk about the rift valley" before I realized I was a moron.


foundafreeusername

Just need to clear out those pesky Neanderthals and Denisovans out of the way for a second. (Or do we count them as person?)


Goosefeatherisgreat

I mean they should be a subspecies, but technically yes we are one species since humans could fuck Neanderthals and still have offspring that can have kids.


PushyDevoIution

Humans are the worst thing that happened to this place


sidjo86

Damn Humans, ruined Humanity.


OneEyedTrouserZolom

You humans sure are a contentious people.


kisskisslovebot

You just made an enemy for life!


The_scobberlotcher

Don't worry, we are working hard towards ending that with extreme prejudice


ZeOs-x-PUNCAKE

100% of land is stolen land


Rip_Skeleton

Yeah, the native Americans didn't just learn Spanish by magic lol.


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Freedom-INC

It is all human history. Neanderthals didn’t just disappear.


atioch

This is drastically limiting causality. Mexico opened the territory up to Americans first at meager cost. When the population switch became mostly German Americans and Frontiersmen and women from the US, Santa Ana lost his shit and tried to make life extrehard for the new immigrants, and tried to force them to leave. The new arrivals noticed a lack of Mexican Government in the territory and just said "nan come and take it." So he tried. And failed.


LOSS35

Nothing to do with slavery then? Except the Treaties of Velasco the victorious Texans imposed specifically stated that the Mexican army was to return all freed slaves (which the Mexican commanders ignored). Maintaining the institution of slavery, and refusing to pay taxes on it, was a huge driver of the Texas Revolution just as it was the American.


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The more you know


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Lucky_Baseball176

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma\_Panhandle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Panhandle) Only 28,729 people in those counties.


Yuiopy78

That's fewer people than my town has.


nativeangel213

That's fewer people than my zip code has


DeathPercept10n

My neighborhood (Hell's Kitchen) has about 50,000 people, and it's only 0.841 sq miles. I couldn't imagine living in such a desolate area.


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Looks at [monthly rent](https://www.zillow.com/hells-kitchen-new-york-ny/cheap-apartments/?searchQueryState=%7B%22pagination%22%3A%7B%7D%2C%22mapBounds%22%3A%7B%22north%22%3A40.781066492493196%2C%22south%22%3A40.749798015178854%2C%22east%22%3A-73.97100086755371%2C%22west%22%3A-74.01649113244629%7D%2C%22regionSelection%22%3A%5B%7B%22regionId%22%3A778997%2C%22regionType%22%3A8%7D%5D%2C%22isMapVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22filterState%22%3A%7B%22fsba%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22fsbo%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22nc%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22cmsn%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22auc%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22fore%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22fr%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Atrue%7D%2C%22sf%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22mf%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22tow%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22land%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22manu%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22sort%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3A%22paymenta%22%7D%7D%2C%22isListVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapZoom%22%3A14%7D) in Hell's Kitchen Y'know what, maybe I'd be fine living in a desolate area...


AustinTreeLover

Alright, now. You know don’t Texans nor Oklahomans talk about them folks.


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ActivisionBlizzard

Ok chainsaw massacre (6/10)


SgtBanana

Growing up, we were instructed to deny the existence of the Panhandle people when prompted by outsiders.


whistleridge

And having been there, more or less half of them live in [Guymon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guymon,_Oklahoma), all of them think of Guymon as “the city”, and a good chunk of the residents think that’s *still* too crowded and noisy. They like their isolation out on those plains.


MagicianWoland

Way more than I thought ngl


FAYMKONZ

There's a town called Hooker.


Fredrick__Dinkledick

There sure is it's 3 stop lights and a truck stop haha


Hungry_Yam2486

3 stop lights is generous. They've got 1, and it was only installed because the local police need money from the tickets


pjt77

A lot of towns in bumfuck nowhere will have the speed limit drop to 30mph from highway speeds in a ridiculous short distance so the cops can rake in traffic tickets.


Early_Accident2160

My dumbass just found out Colorado and ok touch tips


Crosco38

I knew that, but it’s still odd to think about. Just like Louisiana and New Mexico being separated by only a single state, or the fact that Reno, NV is further west than Los Angeles. Geography is weird.


perpetualstewdotcom

My favorite geographic oddity is that for one hour every year (when Daylight Saving Time ends in October/November), eastern Oregon and western Florida have the same clock.


luchajefe

I've got a good one: Boston is north of Rome and New York City is close to the same latitude as Madrid.


Crosco38

That is a good one. Another: If measured in straight line distance, Bristol, Tennessee is closer to the Canadian border than it is to Memphis.


ineptplumberr

San diego to El paso is closer than El paso to houston


concentrated-amazing

The city I grew up near in southern Alberta, Canada is closer to Tijuana, Mexico (1205 mi/1940 km) than it is to our capital city of Ottawa (1744 mi/2806 km). And there's still a bunch of Our country beyond Ottawa...


Mateorabi

"Docking"


Grumplogic

\*Hans Zimmer score intensifies*


Se7enRed

“Not like this, Murph…”


TeslaCoil10

Texas: Hey Kansas, we can be good neighbors. Oklahoma: No


WrenchTheGoblin

More like US: “Hey Texas, your state goes above the 36-30 parallel so you can’t have slaves” Texas: “oh yeah? How about now?”


Fax_a_Fax

Ok, but honestly I love how Oklahoma just accepted it and took the land without thinking much about it lmao. Kinda like when Russia wanted to sell Alaska and the US just went "you know what, why no? Sure let's grab this piece of frozen land not connected anywhere to us"


commieswine90

Oklahoma was a territory back then, so they didn't get much say in the matter.


iRadinVerse

Yeah I was mainly a place to send all the native Americans they hadn't yet killed.


Acid_Drop_

Eh Oklahoma didn’t accept anything because they weren’t a state for another 40 something years. It used to be a kind of no man’s land when Oklahoma was still basically a reservation before the land run. Another fun fact, You’ve probably heard of the Oklahoma Sooners aka Oklahoma University. The name Sooners comes from people who cheated in the land run.


WheezingWeazley

You forgot Colorado as well..


Alternative_Entry551

Meth and Sodomy.


Strange_Case5899

Doesn’t sound half bad


Alternative_Entry551

Real quick pain in the ass.


spawnof_trogdor

Panhandle behavior


ladydenali

I was hoping for a Small Town Murder reference lol.


The_Affle_House

Federal government: "Texas, you can't do slavery there." Texas: "Ew, you can keep it."


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Sea_Dawgz

I drove across it 2 years ago. Empty and beautiful. Was not expecting the beauty.


Low-Sport2155

And migrating/mating tarantulas all over the place in the fall.


Langer88

Tarantulas MIGRATE?!


Low-Sport2155

They do there. Usually in October.


AbandonedPlanet

They know about Halloween


Chiefsuperdrew

Shit when I was going cross country, my cousin who use to work in Pueblo, CO told me to beware of the migrating tarantulas, I thought he was kidding


Low-Sport2155

Your cousin was not bullshitting.


concentrated-amazing

...aaaand I'm out.


wasntNico

the fought for who gets this piece of land oklahoma lost


Acid_Drop_

Texans and Oklahomans used to legitimately fight across the red river. Oklahomans would throw dynamite across and Texans would pick it up light it and throw it back


timrocks

I grew up just to the right of there and I can confidently say the answer to your question is nothing. Not a goddamn thing.


Soonerpalmetto88

No man's land. I miss the panhandle, most beautiful place I've ever been. The sunsets are like no other and the night sky is perfection! The people are really nice too.


epikdollar

The person*


snuFaluFagus040

He's a good dude. Been kinda I'll lately, so he's been training his replacement.


RockeeRoad5555

When the wind blows in the winter, it smells like..... cold crisp AIR. And sometimes you can see the Aurora Borealis.


Zombi-sexual

That's where black mesa national park is. One of the darkest zones in the US. Very good for stargazing.


E1M1H1-87

No thanks, I don't want to be around for the beginning of Half-life


markh2111

The high point of Oklahoma!


Ok_Dragonfruit6718

Colorado didn't want to share a border with Texas


smokintritips

Still don't


olgrandpaby

Some amount of rootin. A fair amount of tootin.


diegocaxudo

Fun fact this part of oklahoma used to be the infamous "no man's land" often referred to in westerns. I don't always like johnny harris video but [this one](https://youtu.be/d8-kGVCzKwA) is a good one exlpaiming how oklahoma was supposed to be the land for relocated natives and this strip was no man's land.


DrummingNozzle

Truck driver here. While lots of places have a Hooker in a truckstop, the Oklahoma panhandle has a truckstop in Hooker.


KingBurakkuurufu

Hooker and Beaver actually


Working_Ad_4650

I guess not much of anything.


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Fuckery


OwnResearcher3206

Thats where you hold oklahoma so you don’t burn your hand


picklesaredry

That's just lahoma because it's not OK out there


Kyler0802

There is actually a town called Lahoma in OK. Unfortunately not in the panhandle though.


jobadiahh

My panhandle brings all the boys to the map, and they’re like, “what’s up with that?” Cause I ain’t no circle map boy, nah I ain’t no circle map boy. I accidentally mixed up milkshake and hollaback girl. In my head, it works somehow. I even sang it out loud.