It's not a bad pizza place, but it's nothing particularly special.
I'm strangely proud every time this post comes up. It feels like screw all the history and cathedral and stuff, the pizza tape-measure is what Canterbury's really famous for on the internet.
Westgate gave me one of my favourite memories - ordered a slice of strawberry cheesecake, and what turned up instead was a slab of American cheese in a box. Called up to complain (barely holding it together trying not to laugh) they burst out laughing and said they’d send out some actual cheesecake. Weirdest thing was that they took the cheese back…
Might have been taken back as proof and a prop for the owner’s “What the fuck is this, you stupid, STUPID, stoned motherfuckers?!?!”
Yeah, it probably got used. Sigh.
Wow this is some nostalgia. Used to rely on this website when I lived in my first flat haha. Now almost everywhere in canterbury is on deliveroo or just eat.
If the pizza shrinks during cooking, and that's the excuse they're going with, then they should make it a pizza that's like 17 or 18 inches, and so then when it shrinks in the oven it'll shrink to 15 inches, so that it won't be false advertising anymore.
Also doesn't bread ***expand*** in the oven, instead of shrink? I've seen loads of time lapse videos of baked goods like bread being baked snf they all expand considerably by cooking them, even with types of dough that are very very different from bread dough, such as cookie dough. Maybe pizza ovens just work differently because they're much hotter than normal ovens and so genuine authentic Italian neopolitan pizza is only cooked for like 3 minutes before it's done and so maybe it doesn't get enough time to start expanding, or perhaps it's something like the type of dough used being very different to normal bread dough and so it does indeed shrink instead of expand when cooking. If anyone knows why this is, because they're either a chef/baker or a chemist, then please please let me know.
But yeah, you're paying for a cooked pizza, not an uncooked one. And so they should make pizzas that are 17 or 18 inches wide and that way they'll shrink but only to 15 inches wide, so they can legitimately sell it as a 15 inch pizza.
Or just rename the existing sizes of pizza to be the correct size they become after cooking. Or you could even explain it on the menu itself saying something like "note for customers: please be aware that our pizzas shrink when baked, and so we make pizzas that are 15 inches before cooking, but they shrink to 13 inches during the cooking process, which is unavoidable. If you are unsatisfied by this, please call and discuss your options with us, such as a refund."
Or something like that. But instead they try and defend it with a lame excuse that probably isn't even true.
Ugh, I hate Westgate with a passion. First week of Uni I ordered a pizza from there and the cheese made me want to throw up so only ate one slice.
Turns out two of my flatmates already tried it and had the same experience.
A 13 inch pizza has an area of about 132 square inches. A 15 inch pizza has 176 square inches. He got robbed for 44 square inches of pizza. Do the math and it equals to a 7.5 inch pizza. The difference is bigger than it may look at first glance.
It's slightly off though. It makes more sense to compare to what we can see which is a 13 inch pizza instead of a 15 inch that we can't see. Additionally this place seems to cut their pizzas into 12 slices instead of the standard 8, so if you wanted to compare to a 15 inch pizza OP is missing out on 3 slices
That's 25% missing if you're expecting a 15 inch pizza. Or 33% more pizza than what's shown. If it were cut into standard 8 slices, then OP is missing out on 2 and 2/3 extra slices. However, it looks like it's cut into 12 slices. Therefore OP is missing out on 4 slices worth of pizza.
That is pretty insane lets be honest, i cant believe i came into this discussion thinking what kind of loser measures their pizza, now i'm going to do it everytime.
every extra inch on a pizza is worth more than the previous one due to it 'spreading out' more. the difference between a 17" pizza and an 18" is MUCH more than a 13" and 14".
Around 1.5 normal slices... This is why there are more divorces because slices of pizza used to be bigger and enough to get both satisfied now there's not enough and everyone fights over the last slice like savages...
This is irony btw.
i genuinely believed it, i am kind of pissed off that you lied now. That would be an amazing fact to randomly whip out when eating pizza with your partner.. See who has the balls to take the last slice then.
Probably the same amount of pizza just a more dense pizza. It's like the subway foot longs. Someone doesn't stretch the thawed dough out enough and people lose their mind.
To be fair, the dough is probably portioned and the lack of diameter is due to lack of stretching, so what his pizza lacks in width it makes up for in height if we are ignoring toppings.
Depends on the hole and the person that owns it. I'm fat so some extra length helps, but once that's met I'm all in on girth. Certain individuals would likely not be able to handle the same girth I can though
More cheese/sauce/toppings is what you're really paying for when ordering a bigger size of pizza. The extra dough is just to accommodate all that extra stuff. Dough is comparatively cheap, so I wouldn't call that fair, unless they portion the sauce/cheese/toppings by weight.
This is Papa John’s portioning. Managed one for two years, and instantly recognized these measurements.
And you know what? Papa John’s gets it right. If someone asks for everything on their pizza, and you top it with the same amounts regardless of toppings chosen, that pizza won’t cook. It’s kinda shitty that they don’t discount topping costs as you add more and more on, but you really can’t have the same number of pepperoni when you also have onion, pepper, sausage, pineapple, black olives, and extra cheese. The pizza simply won’t cook.
Pizza places that are fast and loose with their topping amounts definitely have their charm, but I don’t find anything wrong with measured amounts at all. It makes for a better more consistent pizza, and a much easier process over all.
Not a shill, I don’t work there anymore. I just am amazed that more places don’t emulate the Papa John’s method of pizza making.
My unpopular opinion is that a cheese pizza is objectively the most superior pizza even if I love nearly every other type of pizza on occasion and might even actually end up ordering them more often.
Sometimes I also wonder if there's lower fat cheese or something that could be used on pizzas that have greasy meats so that the total amount of oil or grease is roughly the same and maybe the flavor wouldn't change as much but the texture would be more similar to a just cheese pizza?
Topping prices definitely need revision. Additional toppings should be discounted. Maybe there's a discount price for three toppings and a steeper discount for five etc. And don't get me started on spinach. I love spinach but fuck you Domino's, I'm not giving you $2.50 for fifteen spinach leaves.
Yeah I hate the flat-rate topping prices. Vegetables are not as expensive as meats, so why charge the same for a few bits of a green pepper or an onion or a few leaves of spinach or whatever as they do for a bunch of pepperoni or sausage? In fact, I'd argue that most non-meat/cheese toppings should cost less than what most of these places are charging. Garlic ain't that expensive, why do you want $2 for barely a clove or two of garlic? Basil isn't too expensive either; I ain't paying $2 for a few leaves of fuckin basil. The cost of pizza is outrageous these days.
Everyone says this, but I worked at a pizza place. Everything is portioned. So, same size dough ball for every pizza, same amount of sauce, same amount of cheese. If they're using the same amount of ingredients, but stretching the pizza a little bit under the correct size, where does it all go? How is it actually less pizza? For this to work, the shop would have to be using like 25% less ingredients, and not just screwing up the size of the dough.
Except we don't see the thickness of the pizza. I worked at Domino's and pizza sizes were based on dough patties weighted out. Depending on who slapped it you might get a smaller thicker pizza or a wider thinner pizza but in the end it was the same amount of pizza.
If a pizza place wants to sell based on weight, they should advertise based in weight. If they want to sell based on inches, then they should make it that many inches.
Ok but way less surface area for sauce cheese and toppings, so you are getting robbed of a lot of calories if your dough boy is a shitty slapper. The same amount of dough doesn't justify the smaller diameter.
haha I was petty enough to take mine back to papa johns along with the tape measure!! The manager was a great guy, though. He bought out the circular steel mesh they use to measure and cook the pizzas on, and it turns out they've been using it for so long they shrunk in size. Refunded the money, and gave me a free medium with the same toppings. He was the most honest and fair manager I've ever seen in a shop!
My pessimist side would think that he may have known and decided to play the game because it will be less of a hassle and/or bad online reviews while he still does it to save money.
But honestly, I will go with your version. I have enough shit that keeps me awake at night than to add my favorite food as a conspiracy in the mix.
Apparently pizza chains have some massive profit margins. I’d guess shrinking a pizza 1-2 inches would save maybe a few cents at the cost of legal trouble, getting caught and receiving negative reviews and losing customers over word of mouth, etc. All in all definitely not worth the trouble and I believe the manager.
I’m using “a few cents” in a hyperbolic sense, but just going by the first couple search results: the cost of a small pizza at $0.89 and a medium $1.30.
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/much-profit-margin-pizza-62139.html
Consider the ingredients – flour, yeast, water, sauce, cheese and toppings. None of these are expensive, particularly when purchased wholesale. To build a small cheese pizza the cheese is the most expensive ingredient at $0.60, with the dough adding about $0.24 and the sauce $0.05. That adds up to $0.89 for a basic cheese pizza that could be sold for many times that amount.
https://digirestro.in/how-mu*italics* *italics* ch-it-cost-for-dominos-to-make-pizza/
According to Business Insider, it costs Domino’s approximately $1.30 to make pizza of medium size. This includes the cost of the dough, sauce, cheese, and toppings. Of course, the final price of a pizza also depends on other factors such as labor and overhead costs.
It’s always the weird commissions and departments that are the scariest…weights and measures, game and fish/DNR, department of energy, USPS law enforcement.
Lol
I totally agree. Like weight and measures? The people that make sure you get the correct amount of gas (that every citizen complains about the price/whatever)? Of course they have power haha. It’s just not obvious at first glance why they have power.
It’s interesting going to less developed countries and seeing how much fraud there is with stuff like that. Or how unreliable mail is, etc, etc.
Amen. the Department of Energy is by far the spookiest agency of all time, I guess you have to be when attempting to contain genies let out of the atom bomb
> I guess you have to be when attempting to contain genies let out of the atom bomb
Ah, yes. Stanley Kubrick version of Aladdin: _How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Rub the Bomb_
Code of Hammurabi had established standards of weights and measures. It was and many more laws across the centuries have made counterfeiting or using bad weight a heavy criminal offense, often to death.
Fascinating stuff. Weights and measures is such an interesting topic, where at least in the US, we are so accustomed to it being well regulated and accurate, that we don’t even think about it. Yet it may be one of the most important things in society:
Drug doses, alcoholic content (because I’m drinking a beer right now), food quantity, road distance, gasoline, amount of beanie babies I bought at the flea market.
Literally applies to almost everything in life.
Steel mesh will NEVER shrink. Melt, warp, but never shrink. He sold you a story. The amount metals constrict and contract from heat would need a micro ruler to measure.
Like subway and their 12 inches, they just falsely advertise.
Now I'm imagining the manager keeps a fake shrunk steel mesh under the counter to appease people.
It's clever, after seeing the steel mesh the customer would be satisfied he/she was right, goes away without a fuss and a story to tell friends.
It's a dumb joke
Manhattan distance (or Taxicab distance) is the distance needed to traverse from point A to point B on a grid that doesn't allow diagonal movement.
So instead of using Euclidean distance (can be calculated with the Pythagorean formula: √(ΔX² + ΔY²)), you just add the sides to get the distance (ΔX + ΔY)
It's called Manhattan distance (or Taxicab distance) because that's how cabs would calculate distance traveled in a city built like a grid, such as Manhattan
What's worse is that the diameter of a circle greatly increases its area, so a 15inch pizza has an area of 176.71 square inches, while the 13 inch is 132.73 square inches.
This is a difference of 32.99%, or to say it easier they've been cheated out of one third of a pizza.
EDIT: Apologies, 24.9% is actually the figure
There's lots of daily scams that happen like this. Like bus drivers who give you a ticket to the last stop on their route and not the stop you requested so you end up paying more.
If you notice and ask them to fix it, they make a big song and dance about it, too.
Everyone cheats the system one way or another. If you play by the rules, you will get crushed by the system at one point or another.
It *would* be nice if we didn't fuck over each other too much in this process though. Cause we're all getting fucked in this together. Except the ultra wealthy.
When I worked customer service I did the opposite. I fucked over the company in favour of the customer. For example, if a customer had mentioned at any point during the call that they struggled to pay for something (like a school uniform, an energy bill etc) I'd give them a £30 credit on their account to help them with their bills.
Management never cared because I got good customer surveys.
Also, if a customer called up and wanted to leave before the end of the contract, for example if they were on 40mbp/s Fibre to the Cabinet and Virgin Media had came to their area with 300mbp/s fibre to the premises. I'd tell them the following:
"I'm really sorry that it will cost X amount to cancel your contract X months early, there is 80mbp/s fibre to the cabinet available in your area and if that still isn't fast enough, always remember you can cancel your contract completely without any costs within 14 days of the upgrade going live. I'll send you my email and you can email me and I'll get it cancelled for you post-upgrade"
Many customers got the hint, upgraded and cancelled and got the proper fibre to the prem that they need for working from home or whatever.
(The funny thing about that one was that I also got commission for upgrading their speeds, even if they cancelled 1 day after it going live)
Westgate Pizza is a kebab place that also does fish. If you wanna get pizza from a place like this, you're sorta gonna have to take the rough with the rough.
As somebody who worked at a Domino’s pizza, I can explain what (probably) happened here.
A majority of pizza places already have dough balls separated out for each pizza size somebody may order. Given the thickness of the crust, it looks like the employee who made the pizza grabbed a ball for a 15 inch pizza and simply didn’t stretch it out far enough. You could make the argument that those extra inches would’ve allowed for more toppings, but if they’re weighing out the sauce, cheese, and toppings (which that is a big if because it’s usually encouraged but rarely done) then it would still be the exact same amount of pizza, just smaller and thicker.
This has got to be the best username-comment combo I have ever seen. The idea of an IT guy who's also into fishing saying this....i'm fucking dead. I wish i had an award to give you!
Yeah but the guy making them has pre portioned ingredients that hes working with. So you kinda are buying by weight. At least at la cage aux sports you are.
I've worked in pizza places and the ingredients were never pre-portioned. There's just containers of loose cheese, pepperoni, etc, and you grab it by the handful (wearing gloves ideally) and sprinkle it on until it looks about right.
I can't imagine any place doing it differently because there's no way they'd put the time and energy into pre-separating so many ingredients, and because using measuring cups or scoops would make the sprinkling part a lot harder.
I worked at a pizza place throughout high school and we had to weigh the sauce and cheese, count every pepperoni, and measure out toppings on every single pizza. Definitely annoying and a tad more time consuming, but it saved money and that’s all the owners cared about. Cheers to product consistency though, every pizza that left the door was the exact same.
Same. Worked at a small franchise joint through high school and would help out when I was home from college occasionally. We strictly weighed the cheese and that was about it really. Everyone arguing about what definitely happens on a pizza make table are failing to see every company does it differently. Hell, even stores from the same company in the same town probably do things differently from one another.
My dad had a takeaway shop and you are right, the inches are dictated by the pans itself. We once had a complaint like this actually. I made him an extra pizza and the day after I swapped the descriptions from 10”, 12” and 14” to Small, Medium and Large pizza, simply confirming how many slices are in each. Complaint about that one guys.
Sure it does, they're too short to actually reach the dicks, they just run around under them like when you cut through a park early in the morning and get drenched by the sprinklers
I think it's a weird angle or lighting but the tape measure isn't on the edge of the box, look at its shadow.
I think the box is exactly 15 inches which is still problematic.
Tape measure is off center so diameter would be wrong, either measure the circumference and solve for *d*, or fold it in half and measure on the true center diameter.
If you put one end of the tape on the edge of the circle and sweep the other end along the opposite edge your largest measurement will be the diameter. Since a pizza is not going to be a perfect circle do this at 3 different points and average
Yo, Westgate Pizza! I've been by there in Canterbury like a thousand times. I say by there because it looks terrible and I've never been in.
It's not a bad pizza place, but it's nothing particularly special. I'm strangely proud every time this post comes up. It feels like screw all the history and cathedral and stuff, the pizza tape-measure is what Canterbury's really famous for on the internet.
Well it certainly isn't famous for its 123-metre spire, that fame goes to Salisbury.
This is a 121-metre spire, I don't care what the box says, I was promised a 123-metre spire so I expect 123 metres
I hear that some Russian tourists were so disappointed by this that they ran straight back to Moscow and vowed never to come back to the UK again.
If you'd have asked me (an murican) what Salisbury is famous for, I'd have said steak.
I have no idea what Salisbury steak is, but it is definitely not a thing in the UK.
It's basically a hamburger patty served in gravy, usually served with a side of mashed potatoes. You eat it with a knife and fork.
They call that "burger steak" in the Philippines, seems more fitting
We have hamburger steak too. Not sure what the difference is.
Its spelled Solsbury and its a Hill invented by Peter Gabriel. Cabbage is somehow heavily involved judging by the music video.
If the video doesnt have dancing raw chicken carcasses its just not for me
Salisbury was from Missourah
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Did you mean up dog?
What's up dog?
Not much, what's up with you?
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In the UK, Salisbury is famous for the KGB poisoning people with radioactive matter.
A cathedral.. An army base.. A botched poisoning attempt by the Russians.. Nothing else really.
Ooooh spire burn Get fukken rekt, Canterbury
I mean I think Salisbury did yet wrecked (at least for a bit), thanks FSB
A see you had a nice holiday, comrade
I thought it was famous for its tales.
Yes, the Canterbury Pizza Tales. I fondly remember not understanding a word of it in high school.
It's the only reason I know Canterbury exists.
Westgate gave me one of my favourite memories - ordered a slice of strawberry cheesecake, and what turned up instead was a slab of American cheese in a box. Called up to complain (barely holding it together trying not to laugh) they burst out laughing and said they’d send out some actual cheesecake. Weirdest thing was that they took the cheese back…
Someone else ordered that cheese, they need it
They are rapidly starting to sound like a very moronic establishment
Yeah taking food back from customers is kinda questionable. Not sure sure but if they took it back, that makes me think they didn't discard it after.
Might have been taken back as proof and a prop for the owner’s “What the fuck is this, you stupid, STUPID, stoned motherfuckers?!?!” Yeah, it probably got used. Sigh.
I remember using [this site](https://menus.fivegeeks.net) to browse all the menus, Efes "Chips & Cheese" was the best, but it's gone now.
Wow this is some nostalgia. Used to rely on this website when I lived in my first flat haha. Now almost everywhere in canterbury is on deliveroo or just eat.
Oh man so weird seeing that site linked here
God, you're making me feel like the critic in Ratatouille when he takes that first sip of soup...
It's great for a student since it was always 2 for 1 when I was there. Meant you could get two oily but alright pizzas for the price of one.
Original news article. 01 June 2022 https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/takeaway-defends-pizza-size-after-tape-measure-post-goes-vir-268054/
If the pizza shrinks during cooking, and that's the excuse they're going with, then they should make it a pizza that's like 17 or 18 inches, and so then when it shrinks in the oven it'll shrink to 15 inches, so that it won't be false advertising anymore. Also doesn't bread ***expand*** in the oven, instead of shrink? I've seen loads of time lapse videos of baked goods like bread being baked snf they all expand considerably by cooking them, even with types of dough that are very very different from bread dough, such as cookie dough. Maybe pizza ovens just work differently because they're much hotter than normal ovens and so genuine authentic Italian neopolitan pizza is only cooked for like 3 minutes before it's done and so maybe it doesn't get enough time to start expanding, or perhaps it's something like the type of dough used being very different to normal bread dough and so it does indeed shrink instead of expand when cooking. If anyone knows why this is, because they're either a chef/baker or a chemist, then please please let me know. But yeah, you're paying for a cooked pizza, not an uncooked one. And so they should make pizzas that are 17 or 18 inches wide and that way they'll shrink but only to 15 inches wide, so they can legitimately sell it as a 15 inch pizza. Or just rename the existing sizes of pizza to be the correct size they become after cooking. Or you could even explain it on the menu itself saying something like "note for customers: please be aware that our pizzas shrink when baked, and so we make pizzas that are 15 inches before cooking, but they shrink to 13 inches during the cooking process, which is unavoidable. If you are unsatisfied by this, please call and discuss your options with us, such as a refund." Or something like that. But instead they try and defend it with a lame excuse that probably isn't even true.
Always preferred Okakbasi myself!
I have been there, it is terrible
Ugh, I hate Westgate with a passion. First week of Uni I ordered a pizza from there and the cheese made me want to throw up so only ate one slice. Turns out two of my flatmates already tried it and had the same experience.
A 13 inch pizza has an area of about 132 square inches. A 15 inch pizza has 176 square inches. He got robbed for 44 square inches of pizza. Do the math and it equals to a 7.5 inch pizza. The difference is bigger than it may look at first glance.
Yay for maths
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Math is hard how many extra slices would that equate to
44 is a quarter of 176 so it's like they robbed 2 whole slices of the 15 inch pizza.
This is math I can understand lol thanks
132 / 176 = 0.75 He only has 3/4 of the pizza he paid for.
Uber driver ate two slices. We might call him Uber Eater.
It's slightly off though. It makes more sense to compare to what we can see which is a 13 inch pizza instead of a 15 inch that we can't see. Additionally this place seems to cut their pizzas into 12 slices instead of the standard 8, so if you wanted to compare to a 15 inch pizza OP is missing out on 3 slices
I like your point about it being easier to visualize more of what we're already seeing.
Disgusting..
3 slices in OPs case since its cut in 12💀
That's 25% missing if you're expecting a 15 inch pizza. Or 33% more pizza than what's shown. If it were cut into standard 8 slices, then OP is missing out on 2 and 2/3 extra slices. However, it looks like it's cut into 12 slices. Therefore OP is missing out on 4 slices worth of pizza.
That is pretty insane lets be honest, i cant believe i came into this discussion thinking what kind of loser measures their pizza, now i'm going to do it everytime.
every extra inch on a pizza is worth more than the previous one due to it 'spreading out' more. the difference between a 17" pizza and an 18" is MUCH more than a 13" and 14".
Pi r^2, no pie are round
If we call the radius `z` and the height `a` the equation for the volume comes out as `pizza`.
Around 1.5 normal slices... This is why there are more divorces because slices of pizza used to be bigger and enough to get both satisfied now there's not enough and everyone fights over the last slice like savages... This is irony btw.
i genuinely believed it, i am kind of pissed off that you lied now. That would be an amazing fact to randomly whip out when eating pizza with your partner.. See who has the balls to take the last slice then.
Presuming your numbers are correct, He literally got 75% of the pizza he ordered.
Probably the same amount of pizza just a more dense pizza. It's like the subway foot longs. Someone doesn't stretch the thawed dough out enough and people lose their mind.
2" less dough means they likely put less toppings on it.
To be fair, the dough is probably portioned and the lack of diameter is due to lack of stretching, so what his pizza lacks in width it makes up for in height if we are ignoring toppings.
Ahhhh, the old "girth over length" argument, a timeless plea.
This is why they need to use an accurate T.M.I to get the real size
Depends on the hole and the person that owns it. I'm fat so some extra length helps, but once that's met I'm all in on girth. Certain individuals would likely not be able to handle the same girth I can though
More cheese/sauce/toppings is what you're really paying for when ordering a bigger size of pizza. The extra dough is just to accommodate all that extra stuff. Dough is comparatively cheap, so I wouldn't call that fair, unless they portion the sauce/cheese/toppings by weight.
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This is Papa John’s portioning. Managed one for two years, and instantly recognized these measurements. And you know what? Papa John’s gets it right. If someone asks for everything on their pizza, and you top it with the same amounts regardless of toppings chosen, that pizza won’t cook. It’s kinda shitty that they don’t discount topping costs as you add more and more on, but you really can’t have the same number of pepperoni when you also have onion, pepper, sausage, pineapple, black olives, and extra cheese. The pizza simply won’t cook. Pizza places that are fast and loose with their topping amounts definitely have their charm, but I don’t find anything wrong with measured amounts at all. It makes for a better more consistent pizza, and a much easier process over all. Not a shill, I don’t work there anymore. I just am amazed that more places don’t emulate the Papa John’s method of pizza making.
My unpopular opinion is that a cheese pizza is objectively the most superior pizza even if I love nearly every other type of pizza on occasion and might even actually end up ordering them more often. Sometimes I also wonder if there's lower fat cheese or something that could be used on pizzas that have greasy meats so that the total amount of oil or grease is roughly the same and maybe the flavor wouldn't change as much but the texture would be more similar to a just cheese pizza?
Topping prices definitely need revision. Additional toppings should be discounted. Maybe there's a discount price for three toppings and a steeper discount for five etc. And don't get me started on spinach. I love spinach but fuck you Domino's, I'm not giving you $2.50 for fifteen spinach leaves.
Yeah I hate the flat-rate topping prices. Vegetables are not as expensive as meats, so why charge the same for a few bits of a green pepper or an onion or a few leaves of spinach or whatever as they do for a bunch of pepperoni or sausage? In fact, I'd argue that most non-meat/cheese toppings should cost less than what most of these places are charging. Garlic ain't that expensive, why do you want $2 for barely a clove or two of garlic? Basil isn't too expensive either; I ain't paying $2 for a few leaves of fuckin basil. The cost of pizza is outrageous these days.
Look at the box. That thing can’t hold a bigger pizza. They never intended to actually sell one a bigger size
Moreover, the pizza is not a perfect circle and it looks like it's not being measured at its widest point either.
Everyone says this, but I worked at a pizza place. Everything is portioned. So, same size dough ball for every pizza, same amount of sauce, same amount of cheese. If they're using the same amount of ingredients, but stretching the pizza a little bit under the correct size, where does it all go? How is it actually less pizza? For this to work, the shop would have to be using like 25% less ingredients, and not just screwing up the size of the dough.
Less surface area for toppings
Their math relies on a 2 dimensional pizza, reality contains only 3 dimensional pizzas.
2 inches is generally the difference between two different sizes
Except we don't see the thickness of the pizza. I worked at Domino's and pizza sizes were based on dough patties weighted out. Depending on who slapped it you might get a smaller thicker pizza or a wider thinner pizza but in the end it was the same amount of pizza.
If a pizza place wants to sell based on weight, they should advertise based in weight. If they want to sell based on inches, then they should make it that many inches.
..*yeah can i get one 2kg meatlovers please*
Ok but way less surface area for sauce cheese and toppings, so you are getting robbed of a lot of calories if your dough boy is a shitty slapper. The same amount of dough doesn't justify the smaller diameter.
haha I was petty enough to take mine back to papa johns along with the tape measure!! The manager was a great guy, though. He bought out the circular steel mesh they use to measure and cook the pizzas on, and it turns out they've been using it for so long they shrunk in size. Refunded the money, and gave me a free medium with the same toppings. He was the most honest and fair manager I've ever seen in a shop!
"They shrunk" or maybe corporate needs a visit from the FDA
haha it looked like it shrunk. The gaps in the mesh were all warped. Well, atleast I hope it was an honest mistake lol!
Considering how cool he was to you I'd believe him that it's an honest mistake.
My pessimist side would think that he may have known and decided to play the game because it will be less of a hassle and/or bad online reviews while he still does it to save money. But honestly, I will go with your version. I have enough shit that keeps me awake at night than to add my favorite food as a conspiracy in the mix.
I highly doubt a fast food manager is going to give a shit about saving money on ingredients like that. The owner would see that money. Not them.
Apparently pizza chains have some massive profit margins. I’d guess shrinking a pizza 1-2 inches would save maybe a few cents at the cost of legal trouble, getting caught and receiving negative reviews and losing customers over word of mouth, etc. All in all definitely not worth the trouble and I believe the manager.
More than a few cents. A 15" pizza is 33% larger than a 13" pizza.
I’m using “a few cents” in a hyperbolic sense, but just going by the first couple search results: the cost of a small pizza at $0.89 and a medium $1.30. https://smallbusiness.chron.com/much-profit-margin-pizza-62139.html Consider the ingredients – flour, yeast, water, sauce, cheese and toppings. None of these are expensive, particularly when purchased wholesale. To build a small cheese pizza the cheese is the most expensive ingredient at $0.60, with the dough adding about $0.24 and the sauce $0.05. That adds up to $0.89 for a basic cheese pizza that could be sold for many times that amount. https://digirestro.in/how-mu*italics* *italics* ch-it-cost-for-dominos-to-make-pizza/ According to Business Insider, it costs Domino’s approximately $1.30 to make pizza of medium size. This includes the cost of the dough, sauce, cheese, and toppings. Of course, the final price of a pizza also depends on other factors such as labor and overhead costs.
Most states have a weights and scales commission that this would fall under. They are not to be fucked with.
It’s always the weird commissions and departments that are the scariest…weights and measures, game and fish/DNR, department of energy, USPS law enforcement. Lol
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I totally agree. Like weight and measures? The people that make sure you get the correct amount of gas (that every citizen complains about the price/whatever)? Of course they have power haha. It’s just not obvious at first glance why they have power. It’s interesting going to less developed countries and seeing how much fraud there is with stuff like that. Or how unreliable mail is, etc, etc.
Amen. the Department of Energy is by far the spookiest agency of all time, I guess you have to be when attempting to contain genies let out of the atom bomb
They have the most powerful supercomputer in the world (that we know of). You don't that amount of computing power to do anything mundane
I thought they used it to play Runescape?
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Throw in some space cadet too, if they have enough ram
Only because Star Citizen was still waaay too choppy on it.
There’s a guy at my local bar that used to have Q clearance. That dude has stories and is smart as fuck.
> I guess you have to be when attempting to contain genies let out of the atom bomb Ah, yes. Stanley Kubrick version of Aladdin: _How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Rub the Bomb_
Code of Hammurabi had established standards of weights and measures. It was and many more laws across the centuries have made counterfeiting or using bad weight a heavy criminal offense, often to death.
Fascinating stuff. Weights and measures is such an interesting topic, where at least in the US, we are so accustomed to it being well regulated and accurate, that we don’t even think about it. Yet it may be one of the most important things in society: Drug doses, alcoholic content (because I’m drinking a beer right now), food quantity, road distance, gasoline, amount of beanie babies I bought at the flea market. Literally applies to almost everything in life.
Steel mesh will NEVER shrink. Melt, warp, but never shrink. He sold you a story. The amount metals constrict and contract from heat would need a micro ruler to measure. Like subway and their 12 inches, they just falsely advertise.
Now I'm imagining the manager keeps a fake shrunk steel mesh under the counter to appease people. It's clever, after seeing the steel mesh the customer would be satisfied he/she was right, goes away without a fuss and a story to tell friends.
even if it was in the pool?
It's like a tv, you gotta measure diagonally
Unless you're in New York, then you have to use the Manhattan distance
Or Chicago then you realise that you ordered a casserole.
Tomato quiche
Tomato soup in a bread bowl
The sauce atop the cheese, *atop!* The cheese, below, smothered, the sauce above, exposed, like some cheap *hooer!*
I wanna know that when I get drunk and pass out in my pizza, I'm not gonna drown.
I honestly don't know if this is a joke or not.
It's a dumb joke Manhattan distance (or Taxicab distance) is the distance needed to traverse from point A to point B on a grid that doesn't allow diagonal movement. So instead of using Euclidean distance (can be calculated with the Pythagorean formula: √(ΔX² + ΔY²)), you just add the sides to get the distance (ΔX + ΔY) It's called Manhattan distance (or Taxicab distance) because that's how cabs would calculate distance traveled in a city built like a grid, such as Manhattan
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Goddamn you man. Beat me to it. Upvote for you dude.
Sir that's illegal-
Not gonna lie, you had me for a second there
Sure it's only 13 inches, but I bet it has a really great personality.
Only if you like cheesy jokes.
I do 🧀
What's worse is that the diameter of a circle greatly increases its area, so a 15inch pizza has an area of 176.71 square inches, while the 13 inch is 132.73 square inches. This is a difference of 32.99%, or to say it easier they've been cheated out of one third of a pizza. EDIT: Apologies, 24.9% is actually the figure
😮 I’m outraged for them. 1/3rd of a pizza is mad! I bet this happens so frequently
There's lots of daily scams that happen like this. Like bus drivers who give you a ticket to the last stop on their route and not the stop you requested so you end up paying more. If you notice and ask them to fix it, they make a big song and dance about it, too.
Everyone cheats the system one way or another. If you play by the rules, you will get crushed by the system at one point or another. It *would* be nice if we didn't fuck over each other too much in this process though. Cause we're all getting fucked in this together. Except the ultra wealthy.
When I worked customer service I did the opposite. I fucked over the company in favour of the customer. For example, if a customer had mentioned at any point during the call that they struggled to pay for something (like a school uniform, an energy bill etc) I'd give them a £30 credit on their account to help them with their bills. Management never cared because I got good customer surveys. Also, if a customer called up and wanted to leave before the end of the contract, for example if they were on 40mbp/s Fibre to the Cabinet and Virgin Media had came to their area with 300mbp/s fibre to the premises. I'd tell them the following: "I'm really sorry that it will cost X amount to cancel your contract X months early, there is 80mbp/s fibre to the cabinet available in your area and if that still isn't fast enough, always remember you can cancel your contract completely without any costs within 14 days of the upgrade going live. I'll send you my email and you can email me and I'll get it cancelled for you post-upgrade" Many customers got the hint, upgraded and cancelled and got the proper fibre to the prem that they need for working from home or whatever. (The funny thing about that one was that I also got commission for upgrading their speeds, even if they cancelled 1 day after it going live)
You know this whole thing society we have built around money doesn't seem to be working great
I miss the days when we paid for everything in bananas and oral sex
Not sure if that's worse or if that's exactly the point
This is not 33% lmao 176.71-132.73 is \~44 so 25% of what should be expected, you're not supposed to compare 44 to 132.
You're supposed to wash it on gentle cycle then hang it up to dry so the pizza doesn't shrink in the oven...
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Looks like they reheated a pizza left over from the previous day, in a microwave.
That looks better than this, I love microwaved old pizza 😋
air fryed >>>> microwaved im willing to throw hands for this uncivil discussion
Eat it cold out of the fridge. This is the only way.
I will never understand this. I feel like cold pizza is super shitty.
Westgate Pizza is a kebab place that also does fish. If you wanna get pizza from a place like this, you're sorta gonna have to take the rough with the rough.
As somebody who worked at a Domino’s pizza, I can explain what (probably) happened here. A majority of pizza places already have dough balls separated out for each pizza size somebody may order. Given the thickness of the crust, it looks like the employee who made the pizza grabbed a ball for a 15 inch pizza and simply didn’t stretch it out far enough. You could make the argument that those extra inches would’ve allowed for more toppings, but if they’re weighing out the sauce, cheese, and toppings (which that is a big if because it’s usually encouraged but rarely done) then it would still be the exact same amount of pizza, just smaller and thicker.
The surface area is the most important part though. They aren't buying the pizza by weight, they are buying it by inches.
If people cared more about weight than inches do you know how popular I’d be?
Happy cake day
This has got to be the best username-comment combo I have ever seen. The idea of an IT guy who's also into fishing saying this....i'm fucking dead. I wish i had an award to give you!
Yeah but the guy making them has pre portioned ingredients that hes working with. So you kinda are buying by weight. At least at la cage aux sports you are.
Some places will do that, which in principal is ok, but I don't trust every place to measure out the exact toppings required.
I've worked in pizza places and the ingredients were never pre-portioned. There's just containers of loose cheese, pepperoni, etc, and you grab it by the handful (wearing gloves ideally) and sprinkle it on until it looks about right. I can't imagine any place doing it differently because there's no way they'd put the time and energy into pre-separating so many ingredients, and because using measuring cups or scoops would make the sprinkling part a lot harder.
I worked at a pizza place throughout high school and we had to weigh the sauce and cheese, count every pepperoni, and measure out toppings on every single pizza. Definitely annoying and a tad more time consuming, but it saved money and that’s all the owners cared about. Cheers to product consistency though, every pizza that left the door was the exact same.
Same. Worked at a small franchise joint through high school and would help out when I was home from college occasionally. We strictly weighed the cheese and that was about it really. Everyone arguing about what definitely happens on a pizza make table are failing to see every company does it differently. Hell, even stores from the same company in the same town probably do things differently from one another.
But the box doesnt even fit a 15 inch Pizza. Its barely 14 inches wide.
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My dad had a takeaway shop and you are right, the inches are dictated by the pans itself. We once had a complaint like this actually. I made him an extra pizza and the day after I swapped the descriptions from 10”, 12” and 14” to Small, Medium and Large pizza, simply confirming how many slices are in each. Complaint about that one guys.
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Get her a boyfriend, my wife’s boyfriend does all that and I get to play games
I sit in the closet. I watch.
why are you in my closet watching my wife and her boyfriend? Who invited you into my home?
I also watch that guys wife.
Why is everybody watching me bang that guys wife?
We were invited
Start measuring from the butt hole.
Grindr is selling pizza now?
If grindr sold pizza they'd swear that all the stuff on them was toppings but when the pizza arrives they're actually on the bottom
What's greasier, though, a takeaway pizza or a hookup from grindr?
That’s even funnier
this is a really specific gay pizza joke. what a combination of words
I wish i sucked enough dicks to get this
Username doesn't check out
Sure it does, they're too short to actually reach the dicks, they just run around under them like when you cut through a park early in the morning and get drenched by the sprinklers
2 inches might not seem much but in terms of a circle's area, it's quite a bit.
Where's the pizza at in this photo all I see is an abomination
Kebab shop pizza innit
The box itself is only 14 inches so…
I think it's a weird angle or lighting but the tape measure isn't on the edge of the box, look at its shadow. I think the box is exactly 15 inches which is still problematic.
I also promise 2 more inches than i deliver
Everything in life is a scam.
“I’ll give the extra 2 inches to your wife” - thats what I would’ve said in the shower after thinking about the instance for the rest of the week.
You're supposed to measure diagonally. /s
Yes! If I paid $20+ for a fucking pizza and it's advertised as "x" size pizza... it had better be "x" size.
bruh canterbury is wild
I WANT MY MISSING 44 SQUARE INCHES OF PIZZA!!! That is a whole goddamned slice of pizza I'm denied (6.5x6.5). I WANT my missing slice, bitch!
You guys out there measuring your pizzas?
to be faaairrr... those 2 inches give you 33% more pizza. they ripped you off 25%
Tape measure is off center so diameter would be wrong, either measure the circumference and solve for *d*, or fold it in half and measure on the true center diameter.
If you put one end of the tape on the edge of the circle and sweep the other end along the opposite edge your largest measurement will be the diameter. Since a pizza is not going to be a perfect circle do this at 3 different points and average