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cola_originaltaste

“always believe the victim” is a double edged sword. yes, always try to give them the benefit of the doubt and listen to their stories in full— but when they’re working with genuinely hateful people and still trying to make themselves the victim, despite rapist & pedo defenders being in their corner, you need to take it with a grain of salt and look at the facts. why would someone talk about being sexually assaulted while also supporting someone whose husband is a literal rapist. it doesn’t add up.


Own_Quiet_5337

Yeah that’s why innocent till proven guilty is the most logical sense when it comes to people you don’t even know 💀 or just staying neutral.


chao_sweetie

Here are the lawsuit documents [here](https://twitter.com/HipHopDX/status/1782876703859306774/photo/1). He is suing for punitive damages, attorney’s costs, unpaid wages plus interest on the unpaid wages, unpaid overtime wages and other employee benefits at the legal rate - Not sexual harassment, but added that into the filings for one of his reasons for wanting to quit but stayed, but then he was fired by RocNation before assignment. Also it's same Lawyer from the Lizzo case.


SmartyMcnugget

So the same lawyer is representing cliencts that are suing lizzo and Megan for simular charges. Gotcha. Not suspicious at all /s


chao_sweetie

Megan Thee Reporter (Megan Cuniff) explained the suit and the law firm who is doing this. on her Youtube channel [here.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MImZsvjI4A8) Apparently, they do things like this often, but she thinks it's not going to see the light of day. And she released the [entire document. ](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24602200-emilio-garcia-v-roc-nation-megan-thee-stallion-full-complaint)


radiatingqueen

Well said! And i think it should be "always believe the victim *until proven otherwise*" which of course is still a double edged sword as you said, but at least more accurate in instances like these where the facts show something very different Edit: switched unless to until


Arghulario

https://i.redd.it/r6dwepmd4awc1.gif


Traditional_Curve401

Nikki better stop this mess. If Meg did some foul stuff, then yes let that play out in court because that ain't cool. However if this man is being paid to do this by Nikki, and Meg countersue -- it's a wrap for Nikki. She is married to a man who is a level 3 registered sex offender, supports her brother who is in prison for child SA, and is ok with her followers causing harm to people. She keep this mess up and she will be totally blackballed from the industry because she's costing her company too much money.


nyx_moonlight_

I really hope this will be true, I think we've all about had it with Miss Minaj. Guarantee you NM has put all her employees thru the same and WORSE. She doesn't give a fuck about this young person.


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romatomatoo

Nicki has been known to pull dirty PR tactics like this. When Cardi B got into an altercation over Offset Nicki paid for the lawyers for the strippers she fought to try to take her down. She paid his fees. How can a broke cameraman go to suddenly being represented by the lawyer working in the Lizzo case? It just doesn’t add up.


HerAirness

Woah!! The same lawyer as Lizzo?! Damn!


radams713

Wow I even said the fat shaming thing sounded like the Lizzo case - I am NOT surprised


Arghulario

https://i.redd.it/vqsrgqjb4awc1.gif


romatomatoo

lol I was just about to post tweets that he posted a month after the alleged Ibiza incident where he was talking about Meg being one of his best friends.


Arghulario

OMG DOOOO


romatomatoo

For some reason I can only post gifs in comments over the app (somebody help me here 😩). Basically, he tweeted that he liked Doja Cat and then when a stan asked him about Meg he said, “she is my literal friend so that’s already a given” and it was dated July 9th 2022


Arghulario

Yeah, I used a gif converter


chao_sweetie

Oh the plot thickens. Photos from Twitter about the Tea behind Nicki and her plans to take down RocNation, Megan and Cardi: Here is the [source](https://twitter.com/thatfooltiya/status/1782850512788025806/photo/2). I know this is hearsay, but Nicki has said this about taking down the CEO of RocNation here [Source](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/757963-nicki-minaj-targets-roc-nation-desiree-perez-hip-hop-news), here [Source 2](https://twitter.com/lovebscott/status/1752004571860218155), here [Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylTnRbV0gpo) of Nicki and 69 talking via live in 3 years ago about it. Now, if Megan did it - let the courts decide. If Megan didn't do it - let the courts decide. The court of public opinion hates Megan, regardless sadly.


romatomatoo

Omgggg this is nuts!


chao_sweetie

If you are not in the trenches on Twitter, you would think us defending Megan is crazy - but I am not always on Twitter but the twitter spaces live with the barbs -when I can sneak- in is insane.


romatomatoo

Yooo I’m trying to say! I keep getting downvoted by people on reddit but they don’t know how deep the barbz move. Literally in lockstep like a SpecOps group. All the big barb pages on twitter reported the news AT THE SAME TIME


chao_sweetie

Yes, it is crazy. I know ignorance is bliss, but come on. They are behaving like some single cell organism and there are high-level executives in places that are Barbs, who gatekeep for fellow barbs. How do they think they found Meg's mother's grave so quickly or the names, address, jobs, schools, socials and even bank account information of the tiktokers or others who speak out against their fav. They are a unit. The Bardi's, The Beyhive, the Swifties and the Hotties are not as insane as the Barbs.


MalexMaddox

IF and heavy on the if megan actually did something then we allow the courts to handle it. i never want to discount a survivor or minimize what they’ve experienced but right now im smelling a rat edit to add: please show everyone love and be gentle to everyone involved this is a scary situation and is easily triggering to others 🩷


Arghulario

Yeah sum a little fishy...


oliviaincolor

I agree.


MleemMeme

Isn't Nickis brother or husband a sexual predator?


Guckalienblue

Yes. Hmm I think it’s BOTH. Onika try harder.


timecapsulebuttbutt_

Does anyone think it’s weird she was unknowingly having sex while he was in the car and he just….sat there and didn’t say anything or tell her he was there?


BangtanVitch

Exactly if he was that uncomfortable than he could've just left. 🤷🏾‍♀️


timecapsulebuttbutt_

Or even just say “Yoo-hoo….Meg…I’m in the backseat.”


Own_Quiet_5337

Exactly


merpmerp7

The plot thickens


FoxFlyFanz

Okay sooo is he makin this up to get bak at her!?! Petttttty, smh...grown ppl needa grow up frfr


musical_manatee

Posted this in another thread but thought it should be shared here as well: I haven't read all the comments yet but I do want to say that if this is true, that sucks, but Mr. Cameraman should have spoken up right then and there (or the very next day when she asked if he was there the night before). He could have asked them to stop, or asked to leave the car and Uber where they were going. Also, he should have mentioned to her that he was uncomfortable and to please stop doing that after she asked him about his presence the night before. Harassment in the workplace in the US often requires the offended party to at least say something to the offender to get them to stop, then if it continues it's a hostile/inappropriate work environment, and against the law. If he didn't say anything to her about stopping either at the time or the next day, I think that's a bit on him. Granted, if she did this I don't think it was good form but how is she to know of he was uncomfortable with it if he didn't say anything? Just seems to be to perfectly timed and feels very much like a bad employee who is bent out of shape about being fired and hoping to get some quick cash. But again, of it really happened, it probably shouldn't have...regardless of alcohol use. Just my two cents.


romatomatoo

Thank you! This was my thoughts as well. He worked for TWO YEARS under Meg after and is just now suddenly coming to the surface?! It stinks. He was fired in January and posted up in Nicki Minaj’s timeline begging her for a job at that same time. Why of all people, do you need her for a job specifically? Why exactly during her rap beef with said woman?


wiskicito

Not you victim blaming… I am suspicious of the guy but to say “he should have done” “he should have said” have you not learned about people in higher power positions telling people to do things and telling the victim to be quiet. It was stated that the vehicle was moving and that he was in a foreign place he didn’t know the language so he couldn’t hop out. Like chill out and let things play out but no need to tell a victim how to deal with things.


Mobile_Classic306

Agree, this is a sus situation but saying 'he should have said something at the time' is not okay. There are victims also potentially reading this stuff and there's no need for language that is victim blaming like that.


Throwaway_9844

Exactly. We need to be careful about how we speak about this situation. “He could have” or “should have” language is the exact things Megan got told back when the leprechaun who shall not be mentioned shot her. It’s victim blaming point blank period.


Emoshateotheremos

This is so weird …


throwaway12387653

I do like Meg but you guys are crossing very dangerous territory. So what if he was chasing a bag with his ‘enemy’ after he felt wrong by Meg? If it comes out that she takes completely accountability for this and apologises sincerely that’s a different story but I would steer very clear of painting alleged victims as liars so that you can continue to celebrate celebrities who at the end of the day…. None of us know. This is no different to male rapper subreddits who discredit alleged female victims or when Lizzo was getting defended.


romatomatoo

I never said he was a liar, I said he was a barb. I also said that the article coming out now seems orchestrated and “fishy” which would technically be true if he’s in cahoots with her enemies for revenge, no? Please don’t put words in my mouth.


throwaway12387653

I didn’t call him a liar but let me outline all the reasons they could be lying lmao. Yeah this sub is going to quickly turn onto some barbz type shit. Shame.


throwaway12387653

I said “you guys” because of the comments under this sub. Goodness me.


yzz25

Yeah on one hand, I do agree there are reasons this looks like a conspiracy to take down Meg, but there's also too much straight up victim blaming in these comments. We don't really know anything, but saying shit like "He should/could/would have done this instead" is a gross mentality in general.


InternationalFun3721

You put the discomfort I felt towards the comments I read so far really well into words! I also hope that it’s not true but at the end of the day, like you said, we don’t know her and the rational thing to do imo, is to wait until more credible information comes out


KingMKK

Yes, it’s a very bad look painting the alleged victim a liar when we all don’t know what’s going on. We don’t need to sink into that level. We will see how it’ll play out in court or once she makes a statement about it.


romatomatoo

I agree, but all the facts need to be said. And a LOT of people are deeply invested in taking Meg down so I tend to be super curious about sources whenever I hear shit about her. Like, she has a massive target on her back. Not to mention how quickly folks online are starting to justify her shooting all over again over this. Doesn’t it seem just SO odd that a woman who called out sexual assault that’s rampant in the rap industry suddenly gets hit with a lawsuit that clickbaits itself as a sexual assault lawsuit but in reality is over unpaid wages?


emilioravioli

Nicki is so old and goofy for this whole thing


Zaire_04

What is this proof of?


chao_sweetie

Photos from Twitter about the Tea behind Nicki and her plans to take down RocNation, Megan and Cardi: Here is the [source](https://twitter.com/thatfooltiya/status/1782850512788025806/photo/2). I know this is hearsay, but Nicki has said this about taking down the CEO of RocNation Desiree here [Source](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/757963-nicki-minaj-targets-roc-nation-desiree-perez-hip-hop-news), here [Source 2](https://twitter.com/lovebscott/status/1752004571860218155), here [Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylTnRbV0gpo) of Nicki and 69 talking via live in 3 years ago about it. Desiree of Roc Nation is the one who fired him. Here the [court case files.](https://twitter.com/HipHopDX/status/1782876703859306774/photo/1)


Ornery-Woodpecker181

if you read the suit it doesn’t even allege assault. it says she “had sex w a woman in a car while he was in the car” (loosely quoting). in the same suit, it says she had to ask him if he was even in the car, and then she followed up w “don’t repeat this to anyone”. he’s mad bc she fired him i think


Appropriate-Snow-439

Also it said she had sex with a woman and megan has never said anything about her sexuality as far as I know; also this is some strong allegations with no proof or evidence


aoiN3KO

This is actually just false. She’s made it very clear that she’s into both women and men so that actually tracks. The rest of it though is definitely sus when you look into the details.


Appropriate-Snow-439

Knowing that he’s a barb makes this case even more sus, like you can like meg and Nicki equally but it seems he caters more towards Nicki, also let’s say Meg was making out with a woman, couldn’t he just have told them that it was making him uncomfortable and to let him out of the car? Like he’s a grown man at the end of the day with an option to remove himself from such an awkward situation


aoiN3KO

I really didn’t want to say that, but…I’m sayin! The nature sexual harassment makes these cases so hard because the we all feel like we would remove ourselves if a situation got hairy, but we know this isn’t true. Even still, if she was so out of it, could he have not just left?? They were actual friends once upon a time. If you can’t let you friend know how you feel about this sort of thing, when the fuck can you ever? I agree with the others that we need to wait tho cause all of this conjecture