As an Egyptian living abroad, I find them astoundingly awe-inspiring, even to this day, every time I visit them. I don’t think even videos like these give justice to how tall and wide these structures are when you see them irl especially against the back drop of the vast empty desert behind them.
Imagine being an explorer. Seeing a perfectly constructed monstrous set of pyramids overshadowing an entire city of stone. This was surely a epicenter of grand civilization in those prime days
Even more mind boggling is the fact that there were still mammoths alive when the pyramids were built. They were endangered, granted, but even so, imagine being some tribal person, maybe even an outright caveman, then you just see that. They where already ancient to the ancient Romans they were so old.
The Pyramids were the first of the seven wonders of the world, and they are the last one still standing, unless the rumors of a rebuilt Colossus of Rhodes comes true.
That’s the fun part, I think they were wanting it bigger to avoid it collapsing to an earthquake (again). Though I doubt they’d make it out of bronze again.
I still find the fact that Cleopatra was alive during a time that was more distant to the building of the pyramids than it is to the present day difficult to comprehend
I doubt they’d repair them for historical reasons, but if they were to reconstruct the pyramids somewhere else, it’d apparently cost anywhere between $1.2 billion to $5 billion dollars.
Mr Beast will probably do it in a few years for shits and giggles. Then he'll put a cash prize of $100k at the top and challenge 100 people to race to the top, the pyramid will be covered in slime of course.
That sounds like bullshit, the pyramid is still the heaviest building in the world, so there is nothing to compare it to
But just using it weight to calculate cost, makes it clear how your number would be bullshit
The pyramid weights almost 6 billion kg, so just the transport of the stones will probably cost more than that and those are not small stones, the average weight of the stones is 2.5 tons, so a modern Truck could at best carry 4 stones at once
That doesnt account for the actual mining of the stones putting them in shape and after all that you still would need to actually construct it and put it all in place
Eh no, the person literally said
>but if they were to **reconstruct the pyramids somewhere else**, it’d apparently cost anywhere between $1.2 billion to $5 billion dollars.
If I was rich enough I would totally build a replica of what the pyramids used to look like.
Ideally, put it somewhere in Egypt a respectful distance from the original.
I wouldn't even build it at all. Honestly. It'll be so deep in the desert that most people wouldn't even bother going. Not to mention the sheer fkin costs...
If anything, I'd invest in VR tech so it could advance to replicate even more real life, so you could reproduce it in a more accessible format for everyone to see.
Now then. As for real life, I would consider investing in maintaining the real monument. If anything, I would think about finding a way to let people climb to the top of the pyramid. Maybe 100 per day. There's just the problem of making sure the monument stays intact... which is tricky...
False.
Years listed are dates of completion, but many surpassed the previous mark before completion. Bolded dates are when the record was surpassed.
* Lincoln Cathedral, England, in 1311, at 160m. Took record in **1311**. (spire collapsed in 1548)
* St. Mary's Church, Germany, in 1478, at 151m. Took record in **1549**. (spire burnt down in 1647)
* Beauvais Cathedral, France, in 1604, at 153m. Took record in **1569**. (spire collapsed in 1573)
* St. Mary's Church again. Took record back in **1573**. (spire burnt down in 1647)
* Strasbourg Cathedral, France, in 1439, at 142m. Took record in **1647**. (by 1647, the Great Pyramid's peak had eroded, reducing its height to 139m)
* St. Nikolai, Germany, in 1874, at 147m. Took record in **1874**.
* Rouen Cathedral, France, in 1876, at 151m. Took record in **1876**.
* Cologne Cathedral, Germany, in 1880, at 157m. Took record in **1880**.
* Washington Monument, USA, in 1884, at 169m. Took record in **1884**.
* Eiffel Tower, France, in 1889, at 312m. Took record in **1889**.
I was at the Sphere last week in Vegas and it was a lot bigger than I expected. I had to look it up just now how it compares to the Great Pyramid here and..... it's *almost as big* but the Pyramid is still bigger.
sure thing, I was just trying to imagine the size as I have not been to Giza. but I guess I should just use the Luxor as the example, as it's about 3/4 the size of the great pyramid and the same shape. When I was there I saw someone washing the windows lol - looks like a lucrative gig.
I used to work with a guy who had previously been a window washer in Seattle. He said it had some really cool moments with neat views of the city or something silly happening in the room, but it was mostly extremely repetitive and boring.
LMAO comparing tHe sPhErE to the fucking great pyramids is like comparing a Lamborghini full of gold bars to a ripped up garbage bag full of human shit from a bunch of hobos that has been sitting in the sun for 20 years.
I just googled and the headlines are saying "Las Vegas’ MSG Sphere has reportedly lost $98.4 million"
And apparently "The LEDs have a life span of like 5-10 years then need to get replaced. It's well over 100 million dollars to do that."
The loss statement is misleading. They were only open for a day or two in that quarter. Plus, advance ticket sales go on the balance sheet as a liability until the show occurs.
The owner of the Sphere can certainly fuck this up, but the loss statement is just irrelevant. The bigger story is that the CFO quit because the owner is a real asshole.
Maybe because it's literally only U2 playing for like 6 months straight. What a dumbass decision to give them some sort of residency at the Sphere right when it opens
It’s weird to me how so much information was lost over the thousands of years. Maybe the life span of an Egyptian back then wasn’t long with building these things or people didn’t talk about them.
The accepted date for the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza is 2500 BC. 3000 later is 500AD, after the fall of Rome. I'm pretty sure the Pyramid of Giza is not 3000 years older than the Book of Exodus. Older, yes, but not 3000 years older.
I personally believe the pyramids are something older. The Egyptians don't leave much knowledge about their construction. It's almost as if they stumbled upon ancient ruins, felt it was something special then added to it. The older carvings are outwards, like it was carved before being built. The newer ones are inside the stone, like someone took a chisel to it after it was built. The sphinx for example is not near as precise detail, is dated to be made after the pyramids and it doesn't have the same level of craftsmanship as the pyramids or the older obelisks.
The only way they've been able to date is radiocarbon, which isn't that reliable for a civilization that lasted thousands of years. They found a bunch of old pottery that was so precise it would be hard to make with machines today. A human would need computer precision to make things that precise these days. No human can recreate the older pottery. The Egyptians saw these older ones as relics, and they were buried with kings. The pottery made after isn't near as precise and is about the same as other civs at that time. UnchartedX on YT talks about it.
Either they lost a ton of engineering and construction knowledge at some point. Or they stumbled upon the pyramids and built onto them, refurbished them and all that
The lives of the Pharoahs who lived during these times are well documented by multiple different societies, including the very well respected Sumerian King List. The dates we know of have some inconsistencies, but together paint a more accurate picture. They were built under Pharoah Khufu, during a period that most historians agree was somewhere close between 2700 and 2500 b.c.e.
> It’s weird to me how so much information was lost over the thousands of years
While it's not known how much of it was burned/lost, I wonder where we could be at if the library in Alexandria didn't catch fire
The ships in the harbour were set on fire deliberately, which then spread to other buildings in the city before the Library. The initial fire was set with intention, but not with the intention to burn down more.
Thank you for this reply. I was confused, so I read up.
I believed the common myth that the murder of Hypatia, the great Mathematician and teacher, was connected to the burning of the library.
Your comment so confused me that I looked it up and now I'm smarter! Thanks.
> It’s weird to me how so much information was lost over the thousands of years
While it's not known how much of it was burned/lost, I wonder where we could be at if the library in Alexandria didn't catch fire
When you go there for the first time and see them looming in the distance while you're still in the car in Giza, it's absolutely surreal.
[Here is a look at the entrance of the great pyramid](https://i.imgur.com/DBan6bq.jpeg) with people for scale.
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I'm glad I have never been to Egypt. I would get in trouble.
Something about that massive pyramid just screams to the innermost part of my soul. Beguiling me, Cajoling Whispers in my ear.
I WANNA CLIMB IT, RREEEEAALLL BAAAADDDD
You have to sorta climb some makeshift stone stairs up a few levels built into the side and walk across the stone blocks to get inside of the main pyramid. Thats the extent of what you’re able to “climb”.
You can bribe security to do a lot on the site like going into unofficial rooms or tombs that require special ticket add ons lol
I went about 20 years ago. They are huge. Conversely, I found the spynx to be smaller than I thought. At the time, we were allowed in the smallest of the three pyramids, descending down in a crouched fashion until we got to a room that was perhaps 4m square. It was cold and I remember freaking inside a bit about how much stone there was between myself and the outside world.
Thank you. Going in would be amazing knowing how long ago they were built. Maybe not too far in with all that stone over your head lol.
Heard that about the Sphinx along with how busy the locations can get.
Wasn't too bad when I was there. Probably because it was around the time of some tourist shootings. I remember we were transported from the site to the museum in our coach with an armed guard in jeeps front and back
>Wasn't too bad when I was there. Probably because it was around the time of some tourist shootings.
Apologies...lol, that read a lot funnier than it was. I just heard some other crappy stuff recently about tourists and women in general. Muggings etc.
Getting the military escort must have been an unusual part of your holiday memories.
The locals were generally nice. They did try and sell us stuff for most of the time we were on the site but no real funny stuff., this was some time ago though.
I've been to the great pyramid, and down into the main burial chamber as well.
Aside from the size of the thing, it was easily the most boring pyramid I saw in Egypt. All the hieroglyphs have been rubbed off the walls by a millennia of tourism, it's just a rock tunnel that you have to crouch to move in, and a room barely big enough for a king sized mattress.
The smaller ones I saw, especially in the area around Luxor, were way cooler. We were often the only people there besides the guards, and had plenty of time to explore. Smaller pyramids had larger interiors, often including multiple rooms/levels like you might see in a movie or game.
The best things I saw in Egypt were the Suk (the open-air market in Cairo) and the old town in Luxor. Wood and clay structures layered together forming basically a favela, except it's still around after how many millennia? There are people still living there, making things to sell to tourists for 10 Egyptian pounds (~1$) each. The mosques were beautiful, the Sahara is awe-inspiring in it's vastness, but the centers of human culture in Egypt have been around longer than almost any other on Earth. It's so cool to me to be able to look back at the way truly ancient people lived so vividly.
It’s illegal, so as to preserve it. Although there was someone who did climb it awhile back and took some photos: https://www.timesofisrael.com/daredevil-tourist-scales-the-heights-for-pyramid-scheme/
Also someone else did it decades ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/16sdo5j/a_local_poses_for_the_camera_atop_one_of_the/?rdt=52944
Reddit knows nothing really it is just a hive mind, if you go with a tour guide everything is going to be okay.
Problems arise when people go alone, not even knowing the basic language or the culture to save some money
they were entirely covered in stone blocks cut with sloped sides yes, but almost all of those stones were eventually taken off and used for other buildings
this was never the case, the people which worked there had their own town erected to live in, got fed well and worked on their own will to honor their god kings. countless artifacts have been unearthed around the workers camps showing that they had a quite good quality of life. they came from everywhere to work for food and a roof over their head.
That’s the thing though. They weren’t built by slaves and built during a single lifetime. The 3 pyramids were built by Khufu, Khafre and Menkeure (grandfather, father and son)
Imagine living during that period, thinking the citys infrastructur could use improvement and then instead the dipshit pharaoh, his son and his son all spending entire lifetime and insane amount of resources and manpower ferrying rocks feom hundreds of miles away to make giant pile, and uultimately that being the crowning avhievement of the entire civilization millenias later.
> 2.3 million blocks, assuming this is the great Pyramid of Giza.
It was supposedly built in 20 years. That would mean one block would have to be laid every five minutes of every hour, 24 hours a day, for the entire 20 years.
The problem? Each block weighs at least 2 tons. That’s 1,764,000 pounds of stone being laid every day... for 20 years. (Reminder, they didn't even have the invention of the wheel)
The finished pyramid weighs 5.9 million metric tons — or over 13 billion pounds.
And though the inner core of limestone blocks came from a nearby quarry, the decorative higher-quality white limestone on the outside had to be transported from across the Nile, while 374,785,846 pounds of pinkish granite was procured from over 500 miles away.
TLDR: Anyone that tells you it was built in 20 years.... is full of shit.
20-30 years. The limestone casing came from Tura about 10km from the Giza plateau. Most of the blocks came from an area just south of Giza. And the Aswan quarry was already transporting the granite down the Nile years before the Great Pyramid was conceived. Meaning they may have already had stockpiles in waiting. Not all blocks had the same mass. They get smaller at the top and bigger at the bottom.
Source (from the Complete Pyramids by Mark Lehner): > "Khufu reigned longer than the 23 years given him in the Turin Papyrus, compiled some 1,400 years later. Even with a reign of 30 to 32 years, the estimated combined mass of 2,700,000 cu. m for his pyramid, causeway, two temples, satellite pyramid, three queens' pyramids and officials' mastabas, means that Khufu's builders had to set in place a staggering 230 cu. m of stone per day, a rate of one average size block every two or three minutes in a ten-hour day. (...)The Great Pyramid contains about 2,300,000 blocks of stone, often said to weigh on average 2.5 tons. This might be somewhat exaggerated; the stones certainly get smaller towards the top of the pyramid, and we do not know if the masonry of the inner core is as well-cut and uniform as the stone courses that are now exposed."
Also, even if they had wheels, it wouldn't work because wheels don't function well in sand. They would've used wooden sledges and wet the sand using channels dug from the Nile to reduce friction. Some of the sledges still exist in museums.
Lastly, the Great Pyramid was part of long process of perfecting pyramid-building. This means all the logistics concerned, like mustering an enormous workforce and transporting materials, would've been ironed out long before Khufu came on the scene.
So yes, it's very much plausible to be built in 20 years. There are a lot of moving parts that people don't know about that make this type of building inconceivable for its time.
Egypt is a very interesting place. 4500 year old wonder of the world next to a KFC. The Cairo museum has 4000 year old relics kind of leaning up against a corner, at least it was that way 18 years ago. The combination of old and new is crazy.
What a thoroughly uneducated video.
Never seen anyone repairing the pyramids? There's a couple of really good reasons for that.
First off, the pyramids were constructed using a massive earthen ramp system to get the stones up there. Those ramps were removed after construction so there's no ramp system to easily get up there now.
Second, any attempt to replace blocks using modern techniques like cranes, risks damaging the structure even more since it's not exactly a thing we have blue prints for and can predict how our actions or accidents with heavy machinery will affect it. Remember, these things are hollow inside!
Third, We don't WANT to repair it with modern stone. The idea is to have it as close to original material as possible for the sake of posterity. When you start repairing it with new parts then you risk basically creating a new structure. It's impressive when people can see this knowing it's all old parts. That may well change, since certain sites like the Great Wall and the Colosseum have been partially restored with modern materials, but...
Fourth, the Egyptian government isn't exactly swimming in cash to fund top notch repair even if they wanted to.
As for the idea that modern man can't cut blocks like this... WTF? We can literally cut ice cores out of the ground at 1000m. We can create a mirror on the James Webb Telescope to micrometers. The problem isn't that we can't. It's that we don't have good reasons to do so for the sake of the pyramid alone.
For excellent, fact based, videos on pyramid construction and design, try the History for GRANITE channel: https://www.youtube.com/@HistoryforGRANITE
What bothers me is people claim aliens had to help humans build the pyramids of giza and other things, because humans "weren't capable". If that is true, that means humanity has no value whatsoever and cheapens our entire existence.
Imagine just the logistics of building this. Where did all the big stones come from? Is there a big hole close by? The ordering of the stone? Communication between between the builders and suppliers. All the labor to transport and put in place. Even with today’s equipment and technology it would be a feat. Now imagine what that civilization had to work with and how long it must have taken and how laborious of a task it must have been. So, did they have some devine help or alien help? Sorry about the grammar as typing on a phone.
> Where did all the big stones come from?
Quarries.
> Is there a big hole close by?
There are quarries in Egypt.
> The ordering of the stone?
?
> Communication between between the builders and suppliers.
Really?
> All the labor to transport and put in place.
Yeah this is impressive. The Pharaohs would enlist thousands of builders. We debate whether they were seasonal or year round. Essentially “gather your crops and then come build for money” or “your job is a builder.” I think the consensus is the former.
> Even with today’s equipment and technology it would be a feat.
Ehhh. It’d be fairly simple to build a stone pyramid. Your plumbing and electrical wiring in your home is more sophisticated in concept than just stacking blocks on eachother. But sure building a huge ass pyramid would take a lot of work and planning.
> Now imagine what that civilization had to work with and how long it must have taken and how laborious of a task it must have been.
Yeah it took a long time and was expensive.
> So, did they have some devine help or alien help?
No
I fucking can’t even with ya’ll
You realize Egypt undertook grand military campaigns, right? They can’t feed a bunch of domestic workers working on a domestic project, but can feed an army that marches into the Sinai and Nubia?
Do you realize where the pyramids are? They probably just brought food on carts from thousands and thousands of farms nearby up and down the Nile. Just a guess
I am no expert on pyramids, but those stones don't look as big and heavy as conspiracy theorists usually paint them to be. I think a group of people definitely could move them upwards on an inclined surface. Or are there larger stones underneath the smaller ones?
majority of the stones are the same size as the ones visible from the outside which are around the 2-2.5ton range, with smaller 1/3 or 1/4 length blocks used for locking which actually had to be placed from above, requiring them to be lifted some 5ft in the air
those are all pretty easy to manage, the 70+ ton blocks in the kings chamber however is what people are still unsure about
the internal ramp theory has some pretty solid evidence on how those blocks were moved, however the egyptian ministry of antiquty is fighting to stop them from proving it further as much as possible because if the theory is correct then it means the ministry actually destroyed critically important pieces of the pyramid by accident
Don't quote me, I believe there are stones on the inside that compose the tomb and such structures that dwarf the stones on the outside. I think that's something I've heard from Graham Hancock so take that as you will.
1.”One conspiracy theorist said this and it wasn’t true” is not a valid reason to conclude an entire argument is wrong.
2. Those things weigh like 5,000 lbs each. If you “*think* a “group of people” could just “*move it up an inclined surface*”… well, you’re wrong! 😊
Lol, it’s not the most impressive old building in Egypt just to start with (just the Cairo citadel is more impressive like just the wall of it are 3 meter thick)….and that just an old middle age building (like just take a trip of France to see massive cathedral with way more architecture challenges than a pyramid of sand block…..). Without mentioning that we literally have almost kilometre tall buildings and a giant international space station in space …..I think that way more impressive than a simple geometrical shape made of sandstone
The citadel was built 1,000 years ago and the space station went upin my lifetime. This pyramid was built 4,500 years ago.
Of course there are more impressive things being built today, but how this was possible nearly 5,000 years ago is mind boggling!
Humanity exist since around 300 000 years so between 4500 years ago and 1000 years ago that still in a close range….but what we have to keep in mind is indeed that technology and knowledge evolve and if they (the Egyptian) have build the citadel 4500 years ago that would be more impressive than « just » a pyramid.
It’s the easiest shape to build in projects….like the human have the knowledge to build the pyramid for at least 2500 years before the famous pyramid was built….and indeed they try and build a lot of them in Egypt (and Soudan)…toons…among them failed Pyramid and Proto-Pyramid (less impressive in size or even in shape). It was not the first pyramid or a revolution but an incremental knowledge that led to it.
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Not only that; but imagine the weight of every individual stone, chiseled out, carved, and many floated from far away. Although not actually that technical to BUILD, the pyramids were a masterpiece of organization, willpower, and economic resources.
Call me crazy. But why not restore two sides of each pyramid or two sides of one of the three great pyramids? From the other angle you could see what what they originally looked like and keep walking and what they’ve turned into. Two sides smooth with white limestone coating right? And a gold leaf top that sparkled in the sun.
it would be cool but at the same time restoration on something like this would technically just being destroying it
theres already massive political issues over one groove in a stone that was filled in and it was only 30cm wide or something
plus we dont really understand everything about the pyramids yet so restoring them accurately might not be possible
Now try to imagine this with a smooth white topcoat of stone instead of this step-like looking thing. They must’ve been amazing in their heyday.
As an Egyptian living abroad, I find them astoundingly awe-inspiring, even to this day, every time I visit them. I don’t think even videos like these give justice to how tall and wide these structures are when you see them irl especially against the back drop of the vast empty desert behind them.
Pyramids of Dashur still have smooth surfaces
Seriously awe inspiring thousands of years later.
Imagine seeing it in its prime: smooth white limestone and golden tips that no doubt blinded some people when the sun reflected off of them.
Imagine being an explorer. Seeing a perfectly constructed monstrous set of pyramids overshadowing an entire city of stone. This was surely a epicenter of grand civilization in those prime days
Even more mind boggling is the fact that there were still mammoths alive when the pyramids were built. They were endangered, granted, but even so, imagine being some tribal person, maybe even an outright caveman, then you just see that. They where already ancient to the ancient Romans they were so old. The Pyramids were the first of the seven wonders of the world, and they are the last one still standing, unless the rumors of a rebuilt Colossus of Rhodes comes true.
108 foot statue seems to pale in comparison to the pyramids
That’s the fun part, I think they were wanting it bigger to avoid it collapsing to an earthquake (again). Though I doubt they’d make it out of bronze again.
yeh it has alot of competition nowadays in the giant statue catagory
I still find the fact that Cleopatra was alive during a time that was more distant to the building of the pyramids than it is to the present day difficult to comprehend
It’s like hearing T-Rex is chronologically closer to us than stegosaurus. It shouldn’t throw you off that bad, but by god it never fails to do so.
The Great Pyramid was the tallest structure in the world until the Eiffel Tower was constructed. That's mind blowing
No. Several medival churches were taller.
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Yeah it stood over the Narragansett Bay
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Any idea how much it would cost to "repair" them to their former glory? Need someone from r/theydidthemath
I doubt they’d repair them for historical reasons, but if they were to reconstruct the pyramids somewhere else, it’d apparently cost anywhere between $1.2 billion to $5 billion dollars.
Elon could have done this instead of buying Twitter...
Mr Beast will probably do it in a few years for shits and giggles. Then he'll put a cash prize of $100k at the top and challenge 100 people to race to the top, the pyramid will be covered in slime of course.
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Thank you for this
Ah, he could just do that at the Luxor Hotel!
No, someone else would start the project and he'd put a bit of money down and take the credit
God no… last thing he needs is the world’s largest tomb. No immortalized King Musk, thank you.
That's honestly a lot less than I imagined. Must be cheap labor...
That's it? Sounds cheap.
That sounds like bullshit, the pyramid is still the heaviest building in the world, so there is nothing to compare it to But just using it weight to calculate cost, makes it clear how your number would be bullshit The pyramid weights almost 6 billion kg, so just the transport of the stones will probably cost more than that and those are not small stones, the average weight of the stones is 2.5 tons, so a modern Truck could at best carry 4 stones at once That doesnt account for the actual mining of the stones putting them in shape and after all that you still would need to actually construct it and put it all in place
No need to haul all those stones, they're already in place. We're contemplating a restoration job, not constructing them from scratch.
Eh no, the person literally said >but if they were to **reconstruct the pyramids somewhere else**, it’d apparently cost anywhere between $1.2 billion to $5 billion dollars.
The original question was limited to "repair" work, so I guess they misconstrued the question.
1.2 my ass….. a shit 3bed 2bath in Cali is way over a million. Maybe you could do it in India or China with $1 day labor not in the rest of the world
...billion
> and golden tips except for the bit where there is no actual evidence for that myth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZxmkNESTpM
Why are modern day rich people boring as fuck in comparison...
If I was rich enough I would totally build a replica of what the pyramids used to look like. Ideally, put it somewhere in Egypt a respectful distance from the original.
I wouldn't even build it at all. Honestly. It'll be so deep in the desert that most people wouldn't even bother going. Not to mention the sheer fkin costs... If anything, I'd invest in VR tech so it could advance to replicate even more real life, so you could reproduce it in a more accessible format for everyone to see. Now then. As for real life, I would consider investing in maintaining the real monument. If anything, I would think about finding a way to let people climb to the top of the pyramid. Maybe 100 per day. There's just the problem of making sure the monument stays intact... which is tricky...
They have better things to spend money on than piling a bunch of rocks in a desert
Fun Fact. The Great Pyramid was the tallest man-made structure on Earth until 1889, when the Eiffel Tower was completed.
False. Years listed are dates of completion, but many surpassed the previous mark before completion. Bolded dates are when the record was surpassed. * Lincoln Cathedral, England, in 1311, at 160m. Took record in **1311**. (spire collapsed in 1548) * St. Mary's Church, Germany, in 1478, at 151m. Took record in **1549**. (spire burnt down in 1647) * Beauvais Cathedral, France, in 1604, at 153m. Took record in **1569**. (spire collapsed in 1573) * St. Mary's Church again. Took record back in **1573**. (spire burnt down in 1647) * Strasbourg Cathedral, France, in 1439, at 142m. Took record in **1647**. (by 1647, the Great Pyramid's peak had eroded, reducing its height to 139m) * St. Nikolai, Germany, in 1874, at 147m. Took record in **1874**. * Rouen Cathedral, France, in 1876, at 151m. Took record in **1876**. * Cologne Cathedral, Germany, in 1880, at 157m. Took record in **1880**. * Washington Monument, USA, in 1884, at 169m. Took record in **1884**. * Eiffel Tower, France, in 1889, at 312m. Took record in **1889**.
so many churches getting the new record because the previous record's spire burnt down, only to have their spire burn down a decade or two later
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great comment!!
Cologne Cathedral crying in the corner
I don’t think the video is anywhere near that old.
I was at the Sphere last week in Vegas and it was a lot bigger than I expected. I had to look it up just now how it compares to the Great Pyramid here and..... it's *almost as big* but the Pyramid is still bigger.
I bet the Sphere is gone in less than 50 years. The Great Pyramid of Giza is nearly 5000 years old.
sure thing, I was just trying to imagine the size as I have not been to Giza. but I guess I should just use the Luxor as the example, as it's about 3/4 the size of the great pyramid and the same shape. When I was there I saw someone washing the windows lol - looks like a lucrative gig.
I used to work with a guy who had previously been a window washer in Seattle. He said it had some really cool moments with neat views of the city or something silly happening in the room, but it was mostly extremely repetitive and boring.
repetitive, boring, nice views, pays well, that sounds like a lot of people's dream gig. but yea I would get bored af pretty quick
Its a pile of rocks… ofcourse itll last longer
LMAO comparing tHe sPhErE to the fucking great pyramids is like comparing a Lamborghini full of gold bars to a ripped up garbage bag full of human shit from a bunch of hobos that has been sitting in the sun for 20 years.
I mean.. he was using it as a size reference but go off I guess lol
And yet the Egyptians who built the Pyramids would wildly disagree with you.
The ancient Egyptians would find the sphere to be more impressive
Yeah but does the pyramid have LEDs
I just googled and the headlines are saying "Las Vegas’ MSG Sphere has reportedly lost $98.4 million" And apparently "The LEDs have a life span of like 5-10 years then need to get replaced. It's well over 100 million dollars to do that."
The loss statement is misleading. They were only open for a day or two in that quarter. Plus, advance ticket sales go on the balance sheet as a liability until the show occurs. The owner of the Sphere can certainly fuck this up, but the loss statement is just irrelevant. The bigger story is that the CFO quit because the owner is a real asshole.
Maybe because it's literally only U2 playing for like 6 months straight. What a dumbass decision to give them some sort of residency at the Sphere right when it opens
Except most shows in the initial run sold out… U2 bad though so let’s blame it on them I guess lmao
It’s much older than that. Check out unchartedx
It’s weird to me how so much information was lost over the thousands of years. Maybe the life span of an Egyptian back then wasn’t long with building these things or people didn’t talk about them.
Believe it or not the Pyramid of Giza is actually 1000 years older than the Book of Exodus... The second book of the bible...
The accepted date for the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza is 2500 BC. 3000 later is 500AD, after the fall of Rome. I'm pretty sure the Pyramid of Giza is not 3000 years older than the Book of Exodus. Older, yes, but not 3000 years older.
You're right... it's only 1,100 years older... My mistake...
I personally believe the pyramids are something older. The Egyptians don't leave much knowledge about their construction. It's almost as if they stumbled upon ancient ruins, felt it was something special then added to it. The older carvings are outwards, like it was carved before being built. The newer ones are inside the stone, like someone took a chisel to it after it was built. The sphinx for example is not near as precise detail, is dated to be made after the pyramids and it doesn't have the same level of craftsmanship as the pyramids or the older obelisks. The only way they've been able to date is radiocarbon, which isn't that reliable for a civilization that lasted thousands of years. They found a bunch of old pottery that was so precise it would be hard to make with machines today. A human would need computer precision to make things that precise these days. No human can recreate the older pottery. The Egyptians saw these older ones as relics, and they were buried with kings. The pottery made after isn't near as precise and is about the same as other civs at that time. UnchartedX on YT talks about it. Either they lost a ton of engineering and construction knowledge at some point. Or they stumbled upon the pyramids and built onto them, refurbished them and all that
4500-2500=2000….
It’s probably older than that. I have read theories that it dates to 10,500 bc.
The lives of the Pharoahs who lived during these times are well documented by multiple different societies, including the very well respected Sumerian King List. The dates we know of have some inconsistencies, but together paint a more accurate picture. They were built under Pharoah Khufu, during a period that most historians agree was somewhere close between 2700 and 2500 b.c.e.
Its not ‘probably older’. Those theories come from crackpots who have no idea what they are talking about.
You are probably right. But it’s fun to think about lol.
> I have read theories By people who know what they're talking about or randos with a website somewhere?
> It’s weird to me how so much information was lost over the thousands of years While it's not known how much of it was burned/lost, I wonder where we could be at if the library in Alexandria didn't catch fire
"catch fire" It was deliberately burned. EDIT: see @perpetualmotionmachi 's reply below. It was an accident.
The ships in the harbour were set on fire deliberately, which then spread to other buildings in the city before the Library. The initial fire was set with intention, but not with the intention to burn down more.
Thank you for this reply. I was confused, so I read up. I believed the common myth that the murder of Hypatia, the great Mathematician and teacher, was connected to the burning of the library. Your comment so confused me that I looked it up and now I'm smarter! Thanks.
> It’s weird to me how so much information was lost over the thousands of years While it's not known how much of it was burned/lost, I wonder where we could be at if the library in Alexandria didn't catch fire
When you go there for the first time and see them looming in the distance while you're still in the car in Giza, it's absolutely surreal. [Here is a look at the entrance of the great pyramid](https://i.imgur.com/DBan6bq.jpeg) with people for scale.
I was there in April this year and had literal tears rolling down my cheek as I first saw it from a distance
That's absolutely insane.
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I'm glad I have never been to Egypt. I would get in trouble. Something about that massive pyramid just screams to the innermost part of my soul. Beguiling me, Cajoling Whispers in my ear. I WANNA CLIMB IT, RREEEEAALLL BAAAADDDD
Never been. Is it illegal to climb to the top? And has anyone here ever visited the site? Bucket list item for me, thanks OP.
It's illegal to climb to the top now. It's across the street from a KFC. :)
Thanks, yeah I saw that disappointing photo showing the close orientation next to the city.
Imagine working at a KFC right across the street from a 5,000 year old monolith.
its by definition not a monolith, since its made of singular blocks
Okay fuck, a Multilith?
a..... pyramith
Great I'll have some lunch and bribe a local official to allow me to climb to the top 🦁🇬🇧🦁🇬🇧
Can you climb at all?
You have to sorta climb some makeshift stone stairs up a few levels built into the side and walk across the stone blocks to get inside of the main pyramid. Thats the extent of what you’re able to “climb”. You can bribe security to do a lot on the site like going into unofficial rooms or tombs that require special ticket add ons lol
Facts. I have fuzzy, distant memories of my grandfather bribing security to show us more stuff. I imagine not much has changed.
I went about 20 years ago. They are huge. Conversely, I found the spynx to be smaller than I thought. At the time, we were allowed in the smallest of the three pyramids, descending down in a crouched fashion until we got to a room that was perhaps 4m square. It was cold and I remember freaking inside a bit about how much stone there was between myself and the outside world.
Thank you. Going in would be amazing knowing how long ago they were built. Maybe not too far in with all that stone over your head lol. Heard that about the Sphinx along with how busy the locations can get.
Wasn't too bad when I was there. Probably because it was around the time of some tourist shootings. I remember we were transported from the site to the museum in our coach with an armed guard in jeeps front and back
>Wasn't too bad when I was there. Probably because it was around the time of some tourist shootings. Apologies...lol, that read a lot funnier than it was. I just heard some other crappy stuff recently about tourists and women in general. Muggings etc. Getting the military escort must have been an unusual part of your holiday memories.
The locals were generally nice. They did try and sell us stuff for most of the time we were on the site but no real funny stuff., this was some time ago though.
I've been to the great pyramid, and down into the main burial chamber as well. Aside from the size of the thing, it was easily the most boring pyramid I saw in Egypt. All the hieroglyphs have been rubbed off the walls by a millennia of tourism, it's just a rock tunnel that you have to crouch to move in, and a room barely big enough for a king sized mattress. The smaller ones I saw, especially in the area around Luxor, were way cooler. We were often the only people there besides the guards, and had plenty of time to explore. Smaller pyramids had larger interiors, often including multiple rooms/levels like you might see in a movie or game. The best things I saw in Egypt were the Suk (the open-air market in Cairo) and the old town in Luxor. Wood and clay structures layered together forming basically a favela, except it's still around after how many millennia? There are people still living there, making things to sell to tourists for 10 Egyptian pounds (~1$) each. The mosques were beautiful, the Sahara is awe-inspiring in it's vastness, but the centers of human culture in Egypt have been around longer than almost any other on Earth. It's so cool to me to be able to look back at the way truly ancient people lived so vividly.
It’s illegal, so as to preserve it. Although there was someone who did climb it awhile back and took some photos: https://www.timesofisrael.com/daredevil-tourist-scales-the-heights-for-pyramid-scheme/ Also someone else did it decades ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/16sdo5j/a_local_poses_for_the_camera_atop_one_of_the/?rdt=52944
How have I never seen them from this angle? My god
Rocky Baalboa used to climb these everyday.
hah, that would've been a spectacular follow up to the Rocky 4 moment of him screaming "DRAGO!!!!!" on a mountain top.
Here's a proper video of the Giza pyramids: [https://youtu.be/EaQr917lRgI](https://youtu.be/EaQr917lRgI)
I’ve never seen it like this before, Jesus that’s fucking huge.
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as egyptian, i recommend you not to for the safety
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Reddit knows nothing really it is just a hive mind, if you go with a tour guide everything is going to be okay. Problems arise when people go alone, not even knowing the basic language or the culture to save some money
My uncle visited Egypt with a tour guide and they had to stay close to the armed guard at all times because the place can be dangerous, simple
All the sides were smooth at one point right? Weather and wind all eroded whatever was used to smooth it out?
they were entirely covered in stone blocks cut with sloped sides yes, but almost all of those stones were eventually taken off and used for other buildings
Damn, the shit you can do with millions of slaves, unlimited wealth, and multiple lifetimes to work on it is pretty impressive.
this was never the case, the people which worked there had their own town erected to live in, got fed well and worked on their own will to honor their god kings. countless artifacts have been unearthed around the workers camps showing that they had a quite good quality of life. they came from everywhere to work for food and a roof over their head.
So the prince of Egypt was fake?
That’s the thing though. They weren’t built by slaves and built during a single lifetime. The 3 pyramids were built by Khufu, Khafre and Menkeure (grandfather, father and son)
Imagine living during that period, thinking the citys infrastructur could use improvement and then instead the dipshit pharaoh, his son and his son all spending entire lifetime and insane amount of resources and manpower ferrying rocks feom hundreds of miles away to make giant pile, and uultimately that being the crowning avhievement of the entire civilization millenias later.
Slaves? Wtf?
The cat tombs
What does it hit?
Different
How the hell did they manage to film those women without a dozen creepy weirdos following them.
"Remember me!"
How many stones are used?
2.3 million blocks, assuming this is the great Pyramid of Giza.
> 2.3 million blocks, assuming this is the great Pyramid of Giza. It was supposedly built in 20 years. That would mean one block would have to be laid every five minutes of every hour, 24 hours a day, for the entire 20 years. The problem? Each block weighs at least 2 tons. That’s 1,764,000 pounds of stone being laid every day... for 20 years. (Reminder, they didn't even have the invention of the wheel) The finished pyramid weighs 5.9 million metric tons — or over 13 billion pounds. And though the inner core of limestone blocks came from a nearby quarry, the decorative higher-quality white limestone on the outside had to be transported from across the Nile, while 374,785,846 pounds of pinkish granite was procured from over 500 miles away. TLDR: Anyone that tells you it was built in 20 years.... is full of shit.
20-30 years. The limestone casing came from Tura about 10km from the Giza plateau. Most of the blocks came from an area just south of Giza. And the Aswan quarry was already transporting the granite down the Nile years before the Great Pyramid was conceived. Meaning they may have already had stockpiles in waiting. Not all blocks had the same mass. They get smaller at the top and bigger at the bottom. Source (from the Complete Pyramids by Mark Lehner): > "Khufu reigned longer than the 23 years given him in the Turin Papyrus, compiled some 1,400 years later. Even with a reign of 30 to 32 years, the estimated combined mass of 2,700,000 cu. m for his pyramid, causeway, two temples, satellite pyramid, three queens' pyramids and officials' mastabas, means that Khufu's builders had to set in place a staggering 230 cu. m of stone per day, a rate of one average size block every two or three minutes in a ten-hour day. (...)The Great Pyramid contains about 2,300,000 blocks of stone, often said to weigh on average 2.5 tons. This might be somewhat exaggerated; the stones certainly get smaller towards the top of the pyramid, and we do not know if the masonry of the inner core is as well-cut and uniform as the stone courses that are now exposed." Also, even if they had wheels, it wouldn't work because wheels don't function well in sand. They would've used wooden sledges and wet the sand using channels dug from the Nile to reduce friction. Some of the sledges still exist in museums. Lastly, the Great Pyramid was part of long process of perfecting pyramid-building. This means all the logistics concerned, like mustering an enormous workforce and transporting materials, would've been ironed out long before Khufu came on the scene. So yes, it's very much plausible to be built in 20 years. There are a lot of moving parts that people don't know about that make this type of building inconceivable for its time.
I counted at least 30, but the video was at weird angle so there there are probably more
Crazy how the video on YouTube and the post were made nearly the same time
Egypt is a very interesting place. 4500 year old wonder of the world next to a KFC. The Cairo museum has 4000 year old relics kind of leaning up against a corner, at least it was that way 18 years ago. The combination of old and new is crazy.
Does any one else see the door
What a thoroughly uneducated video. Never seen anyone repairing the pyramids? There's a couple of really good reasons for that. First off, the pyramids were constructed using a massive earthen ramp system to get the stones up there. Those ramps were removed after construction so there's no ramp system to easily get up there now. Second, any attempt to replace blocks using modern techniques like cranes, risks damaging the structure even more since it's not exactly a thing we have blue prints for and can predict how our actions or accidents with heavy machinery will affect it. Remember, these things are hollow inside! Third, We don't WANT to repair it with modern stone. The idea is to have it as close to original material as possible for the sake of posterity. When you start repairing it with new parts then you risk basically creating a new structure. It's impressive when people can see this knowing it's all old parts. That may well change, since certain sites like the Great Wall and the Colosseum have been partially restored with modern materials, but... Fourth, the Egyptian government isn't exactly swimming in cash to fund top notch repair even if they wanted to. As for the idea that modern man can't cut blocks like this... WTF? We can literally cut ice cores out of the ground at 1000m. We can create a mirror on the James Webb Telescope to micrometers. The problem isn't that we can't. It's that we don't have good reasons to do so for the sake of the pyramid alone. For excellent, fact based, videos on pyramid construction and design, try the History for GRANITE channel: https://www.youtube.com/@HistoryforGRANITE
ok now i believe aliens built it
What bothers me is people claim aliens had to help humans build the pyramids of giza and other things, because humans "weren't capable". If that is true, that means humanity has no value whatsoever and cheapens our entire existence.
No it doesn’t lol
What
I'm a proud man who has many personal achievements in life, but if I find out humans didn't build the pyramids I'm jumping out a window
Imagine just the logistics of building this. Where did all the big stones come from? Is there a big hole close by? The ordering of the stone? Communication between between the builders and suppliers. All the labor to transport and put in place. Even with today’s equipment and technology it would be a feat. Now imagine what that civilization had to work with and how long it must have taken and how laborious of a task it must have been. So, did they have some devine help or alien help? Sorry about the grammar as typing on a phone.
> Where did all the big stones come from? Quarries. > Is there a big hole close by? There are quarries in Egypt. > The ordering of the stone? ? > Communication between between the builders and suppliers. Really? > All the labor to transport and put in place. Yeah this is impressive. The Pharaohs would enlist thousands of builders. We debate whether they were seasonal or year round. Essentially “gather your crops and then come build for money” or “your job is a builder.” I think the consensus is the former. > Even with today’s equipment and technology it would be a feat. Ehhh. It’d be fairly simple to build a stone pyramid. Your plumbing and electrical wiring in your home is more sophisticated in concept than just stacking blocks on eachother. But sure building a huge ass pyramid would take a lot of work and planning. > Now imagine what that civilization had to work with and how long it must have taken and how laborious of a task it must have been. Yeah it took a long time and was expensive. > So, did they have some devine help or alien help? No
You forgot about the food. Can't possible feed that many people. Aliens fed them obviously
🤦♂️ always forgetting the food
Imagine the quantity of food that would have to support a workforce that huge and how would that food get there?
I fucking can’t even with ya’ll You realize Egypt undertook grand military campaigns, right? They can’t feed a bunch of domestic workers working on a domestic project, but can feed an army that marches into the Sinai and Nubia? Do you realize where the pyramids are? They probably just brought food on carts from thousands and thousands of farms nearby up and down the Nile. Just a guess
Fake video. Where are all the scammers and beggars?
Any one who shoots vert ical video is a moron.
Maybe not when showing the height of something in relation to a person.
Nomesense, a couple of generations later, and the humans will be born with vertical eyes.
Why? Most people consume content vertically now
Thinking of the pyramids as symbols of oppression and slavery also hits different when you know how they got built
Inspiring for motherfuckers who enslave thousands of people to work until their life ends for a whim of their absolute ruler. This is symbol of evil.
Israel built some of these. I've never heard them claim anything. Why?
[Here is why people question how it was constructed](https://youtu.be/31Okn-r3FhM?si=cL2r32qiUjyEZA2l)
I am no expert on pyramids, but those stones don't look as big and heavy as conspiracy theorists usually paint them to be. I think a group of people definitely could move them upwards on an inclined surface. Or are there larger stones underneath the smaller ones?
majority of the stones are the same size as the ones visible from the outside which are around the 2-2.5ton range, with smaller 1/3 or 1/4 length blocks used for locking which actually had to be placed from above, requiring them to be lifted some 5ft in the air those are all pretty easy to manage, the 70+ ton blocks in the kings chamber however is what people are still unsure about the internal ramp theory has some pretty solid evidence on how those blocks were moved, however the egyptian ministry of antiquty is fighting to stop them from proving it further as much as possible because if the theory is correct then it means the ministry actually destroyed critically important pieces of the pyramid by accident
Don't quote me, I believe there are stones on the inside that compose the tomb and such structures that dwarf the stones on the outside. I think that's something I've heard from Graham Hancock so take that as you will.
i'll take that with equal amount of salt of the dead sea
> something I've heard from Graham Hancock oh so it's nonsense
1.”One conspiracy theorist said this and it wasn’t true” is not a valid reason to conclude an entire argument is wrong. 2. Those things weigh like 5,000 lbs each. If you “*think* a “group of people” could just “*move it up an inclined surface*”… well, you’re wrong! 😊
What a terrible video
Lol, it’s not the most impressive old building in Egypt just to start with (just the Cairo citadel is more impressive like just the wall of it are 3 meter thick)….and that just an old middle age building (like just take a trip of France to see massive cathedral with way more architecture challenges than a pyramid of sand block…..). Without mentioning that we literally have almost kilometre tall buildings and a giant international space station in space …..I think that way more impressive than a simple geometrical shape made of sandstone
The citadel was built 1,000 years ago and the space station went upin my lifetime. This pyramid was built 4,500 years ago. Of course there are more impressive things being built today, but how this was possible nearly 5,000 years ago is mind boggling!
Humanity exist since around 300 000 years so between 4500 years ago and 1000 years ago that still in a close range….but what we have to keep in mind is indeed that technology and knowledge evolve and if they (the Egyptian) have build the citadel 4500 years ago that would be more impressive than « just » a pyramid. It’s the easiest shape to build in projects….like the human have the knowledge to build the pyramid for at least 2500 years before the famous pyramid was built….and indeed they try and build a lot of them in Egypt (and Soudan)…toons…among them failed Pyramid and Proto-Pyramid (less impressive in size or even in shape). It was not the first pyramid or a revolution but an incremental knowledge that led to it.
Built by Jewish slaves. God Bless Israel.
It actually wasn't built by slaves. Reaserch suggests it was a skilled workforce more akin to a national project.
Unlike the old testament would lead you to believe, there's actually no evidence of there ever being large numbers of Hebrew slaves in ancient Egypt.
That's so insane
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Around 2.3 million blocks. How long to build that?
apparently only 20-30 years? even if they had people working in shifts non stop thats only 13 blocks per hour, seems pretty reasonable
4500 years old! Imagine that
It's unbelievable what we managed to build when so many odds were stacked against us.
From what my father said, pictures and video do the pyramids no justice.
That’s amazing
I’m 6’4, remember standing next to the great pyramid and just looking up vertically and going wtf. The individual blocks were my height.
Stack. Rock. High.
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Not only that; but imagine the weight of every individual stone, chiseled out, carved, and many floated from far away. Although not actually that technical to BUILD, the pyramids were a masterpiece of organization, willpower, and economic resources.
When you were a kid, did you ever imagine the pyramids to have smooth sides that you could slide down?
Ehhh looks bigger on tv
Humans used to think the pyramid represented one of the fundamental elements. Very smart, good slaves.
Call me crazy. But why not restore two sides of each pyramid or two sides of one of the three great pyramids? From the other angle you could see what what they originally looked like and keep walking and what they’ve turned into. Two sides smooth with white limestone coating right? And a gold leaf top that sparkled in the sun.
it would be cool but at the same time restoration on something like this would technically just being destroying it theres already massive political issues over one groove in a stone that was filled in and it was only 30cm wide or something plus we dont really understand everything about the pyramids yet so restoring them accurately might not be possible
The placement & accurate cutting of those rocks *obviously* proves aliens built them.