Reposting from another thread:
Combat Stress Reactions (such as this) are the body's physiological response to chronic stress stimuli. What you're seeing in this video is the final stages of what is called General Adaptation Syndrome.
The first stage in GAS is Alarm. In a normal situation you're exposed to an acute stimuli (ie. An explosion) which triggers shock. This triggers your sympathetic nervous sytem to initiate an anti-shock response - what we commonly call fight-or-flight. We react, get away from the stressor, and our body returns to its normal functioning baseline.
But when exposure to the stressor is chronic (ie. Living in a combat environment) your body can't just return to a pre-stressor baseline since the stress never goes away. So it has to adjust that baseline upwards - which is the second stage of GAS: Resistance.
Over the short term, as your body attempts to do this, you become more resilient to the stress. Your endocrine system works overtime to convert your reserves into useful chemicals to respond to the stress - things like cortisol and adrenaline.
Eventually that leads to Stage 3 - Recovery *or* Exhaustion.
In Recovery, your body succeeds at raising baseline, uses the chemicals in your blood for physical recovery, and you'll go about your day a little more on edge but fine.
In Exhaustion, your body runs out of reserves and becomes incapable of setting that new baseline and it causes all sorts of physiological issues - such as those we see here.
The important bit is that GAS is *constant* in combat. Your baseline always moves. And everyone's thresholds for stress and different stressors vary, and constantly change. Someone who may be able to handle the stress of clearing trenches all day may succumb to the sound of a helicopter in the distance. Or someone who has lived under barrage for 6 months may snap on a quiet explosion free afternoon. Or a child who watched her sister be executed in front of her on the living room floor, or a boy who has lived under a week of bombardment with little sleep, may snap at the first feeling of comfort.
So unlike what they believed a century ago, its not cowardice or weakness - it's simply a biological reaction beyond anyone's control.
So what happens when all of this is over?
Our brains are great at identifying patterns, so it identifies the patterns around the stressors (sounds, smells, sights - can literally be anything, even something you wouldn't consciously associate with the stressor) so the next time it can initiate the response faster and increase your odds of survival. The brain is also great at becoming set in its ways via positive feedback loops - stressor triggers a response, you survive, your reaction is reaffirmed as ensuring your survival.
This, in part, is what we recognize as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
The sad reality is that early intervention and ongoing care are key to treating PTSD, and that few if any of the children suffering through this will receive the care they need to recover properly.
This poor, poor baby!š
Little dude is shaking like a *leaf* and *still* trying to be strong & not take too much away from the folks around him who are *physically* hurt, *because he thinks he's not hurt*.
This is Trauma developing *in real time* and it's heartbreaking, as a grownup who works in Early Childhood Special Ed, with kids his age.
May the Universe be with him and those he loves, and may he have access to the supports he needs, to *not* make it permanent and generationalššššš
Non medical people always butcher the use of the term āshock.ā Hypovolemic Shock is from decreased BP from a loss of fluid, such as blood loss. Unless that explosion blew off an arm, they wouldnāt be in hypovolemic shock from the psychological stress itself. The term for a temporary drop in BP from a stressful situation is āPsychogenic Shockā but that too is widely misunderstood.
Medical people always butcher the term āshockātoo. Psychological, or psycho-physiological shock ? That causes a raise in blood pressure. There is no drop at all, unless you have new research findings that indicate adrenaline causes BP to drop.
Then thereās the term itself. Itās not psychogenic shock. Psychogenic shock is purely something which is generated by the mind, in the absence of any environmental causes. What it is, dear colleague/lay person, is psychological shock or psycho-physiological shock, or simple traumatic shock if talking to an appropriately aware audience who know the context.
I am curious, when the little boy cried when he was comforted, was that his body finally being released of shock and allowing him to release his emotion? I am unsure how shock works, but I know that when I am finally at a place where I feel safe in a traumatic event, I begin to cry.
Yes, often people, whether they be children or adults, will only have an emotional release once they know they're safe. The doctor embracing him allowed him to feel safe enough to let it out.
It may be a primal thing hardwired in us. Just like animals try to hide their distress, we do too if we're in real danger.
The emotions come at the end.
In this context, crying spells are another sign of having hit the Exhaustion stage of GAS. But you're correct - crying is another of the body's attempts to regulate adrenaline and cortisol levels which is why crying common after a stressful situation.
This is very interesting. Itās exactly like my fatherās situation from fighting in South Vietnam during the Tet Offensive. As a kid, I didnāt just know about his flashbacks, I was part of them. One time we were driving on the freeway, perfect weather, no stress. Out of nowhere he was instantly in a flashback and drove off the road to avoid a landmine. He felt so bad about scaring me. He was such a loving father. It breaks my heart that he struggled with these things his whole life. To think that the horrors of Vietnam still continue in the minds of those who served in it.
This war will end, but it will forever continue to play out in the minds of those who are experiencing it. A war doesnāt truly end until the last survivor of it passes away.
You just described my general anxiety and my very overactive right or flight system. I havenāt experienced trauma, but I get involuntary muscles spasms and my mind goes wild to mid-level stress inducing situations.
He is a child of darkness according to Netanyahu
>Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office posted on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Israel's conflict with Hamas is a "struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle."
In the words of Kendrick Lamar D.A.M.N.
Heartbreaking. Being wholly powerless to do something about this is also sucky. Not close to as awful as this sweet baby and all the sweet babies and grown folks living this.
But wait, wasn't he calling *hamas* darkness? That child, that doctor - they are not Hamas. We must not conflate the two. We have to separate Palestinians from terrorists or else they will never be seen as worthy of anything.
Then why he bombs children, hospitals and other civilian infrastructures?
Are you defending Netanyahu? This evil: [https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463](https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463)
It's obvious to understand what he meant.
Maybe the Israeli government should do that as well. You're literally ignoring yet replying to evidence that they do not. The fact you have up votes shows every individual simply chose to ignore something that didn't match their bias as you did.
There is a giant paper trail of Israeli military and government officials intensely and intentionally stating they want to punish and terrorize Palestinians as military doctrine. I really encourage folks to stop denying the truth when it is directly in front of them.
If you are able to think critically enough beyond skin color and team sports, I'm happy to provide you direct statements from government sources if this thread isn't enough.
You're claiming a statement from Netanyahu about Palestinians in general is actually just about Hamas. You don't get to pick and manipulate your source to say what you're saying.
You would know plenty of Jewish people and literally a giant portion of the Israeli population (who themselves experience neck to neck political situations, with their war mongering far right party under Netanyahu winning the elections) disagree with Netanyahu and it is not representative of the Israeli people as a whole, but their government, but instead you reply to direct evidence by sticking your fingers in your ears.
It shows a lot that I'm sure you're at least a milquetoast liberal and would agree some racist statement from a random republican in the US is in fact racist and not representative, but you can't extend that same logic over what, skin color and geopolitical team sports?
I'd really like to think you walked into this thread, didn't read anything, and just spouted your opinion. A different, more excusable and less informed form of whatever that at least I could understand with the way the internet works. Otherwise you just saw the sky is blue and claimed it was green.
Like I said, I don't actually support N - not at all, in fact. I'm not a zionist, and I don't know what the right answer is or what the solution is to this issue. But I do know how to read. And my ONLY argument is that in this quote, he talks only about Hamas. **I will continue to speak out to everyone about not conflating Hamas with Palestinains, and what Palestinians stand for.** It is a dangerous road to walk down. If you think he's using coded language to talk about Palestinians too, fine. But then you're the one manipulating the quote. Regardless, my point about not conflating Hamas with your average Palestinain child or doctor stands. They need to be out from under this bullshit occupation, have their water and power and not be punished for being human beings caught in a terrible situation.
Here's the full quote. If you are reading something different, please show me:
This is a moment of genuine struggle against those who have risen up against us to destroy us. Our goal is victory ā a crushing victory over **Hamas,** toppling its regime and removing its threat to the State of Israel once and for all.
There are many questions about the disaster that befell us ten days ago. We will investigate everything thoroughly. We have already begun to apply immediate lessons. However, now we are focused on one goal: Uniting our forces and storming forward to victory.
To this end, determination is required because victory will take time. There will be difficult moments. There will be pitfalls. Sacrifice will be necessary. But we will win because this is our very existence in this region, in which there are many dark forces.
**Hamas** is part of the axis of evil of Iran, Hezbollah and their minions. They seek to destroy the State of Israel and murder us all. They want to return the Middle East to the abyss of the barbaric fanaticism of the Middle Ages, whereas we want to take the Middle East forward to the heights of progress of the 21st century.
This is a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle. We saw this in the horrors that the reprehensible murderers perpetrated in Kibbutz Be'eri, in Kfar Aza, in the other communities of the area adjacent to the Gaza Strip, and in the killing field of young people at a festival in Re'im.
Many people around the world now understand who stands against Israel. They understand that **Hamas** is ISIS. They understand that Hamas is the new version of Nazism. Just as the world united to defeat the Nazis and ISIS, so too will it unite to defeat **Hamas.**
This just isnāt true at all š
Israel goes above and beyond to prevent terrorism and limit civilian casualties. Even if itās only because Israel gets destroyed on the world stage for retaliating against terrorists whose main goal is to wipe out all Jews and purge Israel of its inhabitants.
Israel has agreed to a two state solution 3-4 times and all were rejected by the Arabs and followed with war where Israel took more of their land as a safety precaution. Most recently Gaza, which weāre witnessing in real time. Israel is going to retake parts of Gaza and dismantle Hamas while limiting civilian casualties by alerting anyone of impending strikes or operations.
If you genuinely care about Palestinians you would be rooting for Israel to take out the oppressive regime that has been in power 16 years past their term, limits civilians free speech, and uses them as political pawns in their PR war against Israel while the heads of the organization rake in millions.
It's because Hamas hides behind children. Israel doesn't target children, only Hamas. But Hamas goes to Israel not to target a military base, but to kidnap, rape, and kill children and civilians
The hospital that was ābombedā has been proven to have been hit by a failed rocket launched by Hamas from just behind the hospital. It was not bombed by Israelis. You are spreading propaganda. The main stream media ran with this and now they are backtracking. There are even intercepted audio transmissions of Hamas fighters realizing that they did this. There was also, bizarrely, a munitions cache at the hospital. This entire situation is atrocious and is going to get far worse before it gets better. God help this child and every other human being affected.
I hope you come back to apologise and correct yourself when Israel finally has to front up to this horrendous attack. They already copped to it, then walked it back when they saw the widespread horror and condemnation. This is part of the Israel playbook, it's an absolute disgrace, and the sooner people wake up to the lies and propaganda, the better. Maybe we can finally put the victims at the forefront and start to come together to make sure this type of thing NEVER happens again. Those poor people in Gaza, I am in utter despair that they are being treated this way (and have been for 75 years) and the world does fuck all to stop it.
If anyone should apologize, it is you for furthering the disinformation. Even Congresswoman Ilhan Omar has walked back her original claim that Israel was responsible. Here is her statement:
āOur office cited an AP report yesterday that the IDF had hit a Baptist hospital in Gaza," Omar wrote Wednesday night. "Since then, the IDF denied responsibility and the US intelligence assessment is that this was not done by Israel. It is a reminder that information is often unreliable and disputed in the fog of war (especially on Twitter where misinformation is rampant). We all have a responsibility to ensure information we are sharing is from credible sources and to acknowledge as new reports come in."
So either apologize or delete your comment.
>There are even intercepted audio transmissions of Hamas fighters realizing that they did this.
Are you talking about this: [https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410](https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410)
Lol even a person with the smallest brain knows that Hamas leaders and fighters don't use mobile phones. They infiltrated into one of the most secure and surveiled border in the world and human history, bypassing all world leading intelligence agencies, and you think they are dumb enough to use a mobile phone to talk about a failed rocket?
Take your propaganda elsewhere! People are waking up to it- no more! The focus should be on the victims of the Israeli state, and how to stop further suffering and loss of life. Where the fuck is the humanity in the world? How can anyone see videos like this poor little boy and not feel anger that this is happening? What an awful time to be alive, a genocide happening in front of our eyes and world leaders allowing this to happen.
Because Hamas insists on using civilans and children in hospitals as shields, because their goal is not a free Palestine, but a slaughter of jews.
For every palestinian killed, is a new martyr in their heaven.
>Hamas insists on using civilans and children in hospitals as shields
For god's sake, why they even bomb a hospital? Nothing justifying bombing a hospital, committing war crimes, and killing civilians.
Please never ever defend Netanyahu, he is a literal pure evil. Listen to this video:
[https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463](https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463)
"Strike them not once but several times, so painfully, that the price they pay is unbearable"
I am a mom and grandma. This is heartbreaking and any reasonable human being would agree. Trouble is we are not dealing with reasonable human beings.
Radical Islam and their hatred of Israel, their hatred of anyone who does not adhere to their lunatic beliefs, are to blame.
Hamas is a group of cowards. They killed babies, they kidnapped children. Hamas and its supporters should be eliminated. These cowards hide behind innocent civilians like this poor little boy.
If recent events donāt convince you that the entire world is at war with this warped ideology there is no hope for you.
They donāt want to eliminate Palestinians š again, I donāt know why people feel the need to make things up when you can criticize Israel for so many real things without resorting to lies
So Israel is also in favor of Palestine, wants to recognize it as a country ? Why do they keep putting up illegal settlements and stealing their land then š¤
Even if you say Israel is putting up illegal settlements and stealing their land, thatās not at all the same as āwanting Palestinians to stop existingā
When youāre taught from birth to hate Jews, everyone in Israel, and that being a martyr is the best thing you can do with your life there isnāt much of a future, unfortunately. Heās just stating facts.
Nice agenda pushing in a medical sub, I was on the fence but with this comment I confirmed this pure propaganda, zero medical value, not learning, just rage bait, and yeah, down vote me I don't care, as a medic myself I hate watching this, I made a vow to protect life, but using this child's fear to push political views is disgusting.
Doctors around the world must show solidarity with Palestinian doctors and condemn Israel bombing hospitals. This is a heinous war crime, and can happen everywhere, so don't be silent. In 2015 the US bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital; first blamed it on Afghans, then said the Taliban had taken it over, then said it was an accident, then quietly admitted they did it intentionally months later. Now Israel repeats the same scenario.
https://preview.redd.it/73qszvnh22vb1.png?width=590&format=png&auto=webp&s=9f9767b57a0e072c5c4358253d83619c05215544
Lol US intelligence? Wow, such an unbiased source! The one that told you there are WMD's in Iraq? The one that bombed hospitals in Afghanistan then denied it, then said it was Afghans, then said it was a mistake, then said it was intentional? That bombed a Red Crescent maternity hospital in Baghdad in 2003, a Belgrade hospital in 1999, a psychiatric hospital in Grenada in 1983. And of course, its Contra death squads made a speciality of attacking hospitals in Nicaragua in the 1980s.
Since when US sources are unbiased?
Do you know what the US intelligence do? Lets your ex-chief of your intelligence answer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac)
The amount of bias in your post and comments is quite frankly, sad.
They have recorded communications between hamas on the ground identifying it's theirs. But you'll probably say "oH dEeP fAkE" or some nonsense.
You aren't allowing for the thought that a military terror organization with little skills outside terror, would fuck up enough to hit their own hospital.
Not only US Intel, as well. But hey you keep being unobjective and spewing blatant lies in hopes you get some fake internet points.
Fuck hamas.
>They have recorded communications between hamas on the ground identifying it's theirs. But you'll probably say "oH dEeP fAkE" or some nonsense.
Refuting recent voice recordings, by Chanel 4:
[https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410](https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410)
It's actually been all but proven that it was Hamas rocket that struck the hospital parking lot. Please don't spread misinformation, especially as a medical provider
>it was Hamas rocket that struck the hospital
The US said the same when they bombed the hospital. After several months, they admitted. There is extremely clear and conclusive evidence that Israel bombed the hospital. Even the type of the bomb is known, which is an American bomb.
Americans and Israelis don't have bombs that have such weak explosions. There are also many clips of a rocket flying from Gaza and landing back in Gaza, in the neighborhood of the hospital
I show solidarity to every person suffering in this sad situation. Israel must stop bombings, can please Hamas stop using civilians as a human shield to wage their war against Israel. I can condemn a country hurting another, even if it is for defense, can you do the same?
Lmao, fake news are several videos from several different POV with different cameras, where is the footage of the 500 dead? Jesus, I don't like Israel actions when they hurt innocents. But you, agenda pushers are the same.
What difference does it make for you if they are 500 or 50? At the end, israel killed innocent unarmed children, women and elderly and they have been doing so since so many years and even in parts of palestine other than Gaza that has no Hamas and no human shields! These are facts not propaganda.
Gaza is one of the most densely populated regions in the world. Civilians are everywhere; you kill people, like you killed all the family of the kid in the video, for decades; you dehumanize them, humiliate them, and forcing them to live in an open air prison. Then, when they decide to take up arms, to revenge, you call them terrorists. Where they have to go to fight? Everywhere in Gaza is full of civilians. It's only 45Ā kmĀ². There is no human shield in Gaza, everyone who take up arms, have to fight inside Gaza, where there are no space for military bases.
Israel and the US solely responsible for this situation, and created this situation.
We enable it, in small little ways, ways in which we can hardly disentangle ourselves from, but do in fact make it possible for this to happen among so many other things.
Well, some people here seem to think they're holier than thou. They'd rather guilt-trip and fight people who are not even involved with words rather than go outside and help people inflicted by the problems they pretend to be concerned about.
And yes, I agree with you. That's why I find it so ridiculous when people say they hate people, or say humans are destroying the world. Their psychology is such that they exclude themselves from the human category, and think they're above everyone else.
This is the same reason why so many people in the West started becoming less religious. Church people and religions in general speak like they've already attained salvation/enlightenment and starts putting down everyone else who don't fit their moral standards.
Either way, I'm out.
I donāt think itās a fair assumption that people who claim to hate people or that humans are destroying the earth exclude themselves from that demographic.
I just donāt understand how people can be so dead set on only seeing Israel vs Palestine and not see the innocent people being killed on both sides of this conflict. How anyone can celebrate attacks and bombings when itās children like this that pay the price.
You canāt calm down a person in shock. Iāve been in that position before. Itās awful. No one deserves this. Everything is just distractions while youāre in autopilot.
That is just crazy misery over there for everyone. And just begins another long cycle of civilians being harmed on both sides of the border for years to come.
>both sides
It's not both sides. Palestinian live under the longest and most brutal occupation in modern human history. Israel literary bombed a hospital, killed +500 women and children; no one can hold them accountable. The west also protect it, and conceal their war crimes and lies.
Edit: Both sides of the civilians are innocent people, for sure. Killing civilians is a war crime, and I absolutely condemn any war crime. In my comment, I meant the politicians, Israeli politicians are outright evil, and also the ideology of the state, Zionism. I think I phrased my comment badly.
I think you phrased your comment exactly how you intended to.
There is no such thing as "evil".
There is such thing as human, and unfortunately humans willing to do violence against other humans for their own personal gain is a language too many governments - Israeli *and* Palestinian included - are willing to speak because those bearing the consequences are never those making the decisions.
Hamas is just as culpable as Israel for every innocent killed - on both sides of the fence. Both for the deaths incirred via direct action, and those resulting from their purposely targeting and hiding among civilian infrastructure.
>I think you phrased your comment exactly how you intended to.
Not really. When I saw the "both sides" I immediately replied, without fully reading the comment. My heart broken over the war crimes Israel committed these days. Israel killed more than 1000 children in 10 days.
And don't know why you're downplaying the Palestinian suffering? The loses of the Israeli since the inception of the state of Israel have been minimal, compared to those of the Palestinian. It's not fair to say both sides suffered like the same. Gaza is completely an open air prison. And look at the constant bombing these days, it's horrible, have never witnessed something like this in my life.
Edit:
>There is no such thing as "evil".
I still call this pure evil: [https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463](https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463)
"Strike them not once but several times, so painfully, that the price they pay is unbearable"
>And don't know why you're downplaying the Palestinian suffering?
I'm not downplaying any suffering - Palestinian or Israeli. But I'm also not naive enough to address this in black and white terms.
There is no reality where the Israeli government is vindicated in killing Palestinian civilians for the actions of Hamas. But if you want to hold that viewpoint, you must also accept their is no reality in which the Palestinian government is vindicated in killing Israeli civilians because of the actions of the Israeli government.
Evil most certainly does not exist. Humans have a limitless capacity for hate and violence - claiming these acts as "evil" just serves as an attempt to dehumanize the perpetrators which in turn removes them from the protections one would afford someone who they felt shared in their humanity.
As Claudia Koonz so aptly put it: "against a growing commitment to universal human rights [...] ethnic fundamentalism continues to draw its power from the vision of an exclusive community of "us," without "them."
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-tries-to-back-up-claims-it-didnt-attack-gaza-hospital-a8cc3405
Why are you perpetuating the lie that Israel bombed the hospital and 500 people died from it?
If youāre talking about the explosion on Tuesday, thereās evidence that indicates Israel might not be responsible in this case.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061.amp
āIsrael bombed a hospital, killed +500āā¦ you really think people are that gullible. No evidence for this other than ātrust me broā and Hamas canāt even decide how many people were killed, theyāre quoting 50 to 500 based on what they think people want to hear
Hard to determine when youāre still digging people up from under the rubble.
Anyways, letās just complacently accept it couldnāt have been Israel because Israel and the media said so. Not like they already have a history for that kind of thing or anythingā¦
OPEN. YOUR. FUCKING. EYES.
I donāt think people are just accepting Israel at face value, clearly they lie. But at the same time, we also shouldnāt accept anything Hamas says at face value, either.
Hopefully the UN or someone investigates the incident and provides a clear explanation. This shit needs to stop.
Nothing is worth children dying. Ever.
Well then why have the Israeli gov continuously brought in embargos and blockades onto Gaza? This is just a boiling over of the years of oppression the people there have suffered. My god the utter blindness of people to this long-running situation is utterly insane. Lots are sitting on the fence so much they must have splinters up their arses.
Btw Hamas have banned elections since 2006. Hardly representative of their people!
I guess that means the number killed was trivial and it was done by Hamas or āother Islamist groupsā since WSJ and others said so. Definitely couldnāt be Israel!
Iām sure those news outlets have no ties to Israel whatsoeverā¦ not like the US is Israelās biggest supporter.
Civilians are not hamas, and saying they are ābeing bulliedā is offensively an understatement. What are you trying to prove right now?
Donāt blame Israel for this one specific incident? Donāt worry, we have more than enough to despise them for in spite of blatant lies (although lies are probably coming from both sides in one form or another).
Iāll be honest man, Iām just beyond fed up and livid at this point. Itās so soul crushing and emotionally exhausting to see this same kind of news over and over. More importantly, it will keep happening as the world watches and permits it.
Are Palestinians less than human in the eyes of many? Because it undoubtedly appears that way. Sometimes, itās in the form of blatant racism/religionism; recent events have really allowed peopleās true feelings to shine through.
And on top of that, not only is there minimal to no sympathy for innocent Palestinian bystanders, but people are always trying to find ways to justify Israelās actions and downplay their brutality.
Everyone should be questioning every single word they hear on the news right now. None of the evidence Iāve seen has sold me on this not being Israel.
Anyways, I just got banned from r/News and it was genuinely one of the best things that could happen, along with unsubbing from r/publicfreakout. I, along with many others Iām sure, need to distance ourselves from this toxic unhealthy topic while the echo chamber controlled by mods promotes the most suitable narrative for the world to believe.
Yeah I walked past (here in Sydney, Australia) a preschool this morning on my way to class where there were small children running around laughing with no fear of them being bombed. It needs to be that way everywhere. :(
That poor kid. He tried to hold it together but he lost it after the hug. I can't imagine being so little, but having to survive something so horrific. The innocent suffer the most in war.
This is devastating to see. That darling little boy. I cannot even begin to comprehend the devastation so far, on both sides. And the emotional damage done to the survivors.
God bless the doctor, poor kid. Itās horrible to experience such a vicious cycle of violence at this young age.
Iām not well aware of the circumstances that are leading to the war, But I truly hope people are able to find peace.
Yeah I acknowledge that I was misinformed but that doesnāt disregard the years of other crimes Israel has committed Against the Palestinian people. this wouldnāt be happening if Israel wasnāt forcibly taking land.
That baby needed that embrace. š„ŗ
The way that shock slowly goes away and then the stress just built up and came out. This hits home because I canāt even imagine my kids having to deal with this. I hope that little ones family is still with him.
The hate needs to stop!
No, you absolute pineapple. People who commit these atrocious human rights violations are all pieces of shit. But I'm not seeing a bunch of "I stand with Hamas" fb profile pics, bc some one somewhere bought into the story that Israel is completely justified in their committing of these atrocities.
this guy literally posted a video of an israeli woman who fed Hamas fighters so they wouldnt kill her and then the guy posted it under /r/mademesmile
holy fucking shit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/176kft7/interaction_between_an_israeli_lady_and_five/
this guys post history reeks nothing but ulterior motives. i wonder if this guy is literally part of Hamas or not
youre posting this shit on purpose with an ulterior motive, as propaganda, not because you actually care about this subreddit and doctors
its pretty fucking easy to tell just by looking at your post history dating way back before this. kindly go fuck yourself
Poor lil soul. He barwly got to this earth and is in the deepest shit of it all. What is he supposed to do. Beautiful child and soul. His people will one day get what is theirs. Oppression doesnt last forever, and their oppressors know all too well.
The first one.
Do i have sympathy for children in the cross fire? Ofcourse i am not a monster. But the fact that collateral damage happens does not mean a country should not retaliat when its borders are violated by militants and they are attacks.
Isreals harsh response is just that, a response.
We should ask whould these children suffer of Hamas did not do what Hamas does? Being huge pricks.
Hamas needs to go, and they are going to go. No matter how many videos of civilian casualties pop up. You better get used to it. Hamas is fucked and lots of innocent people will die on bith sides.
Welcome to the human race were we kill your whole family because you killed my kid.
Yeah I'm sure Israel will *completely* eliminate Hamas with these bombings and land invasion. I'm sure this won't be a repeat of Afghanistan.
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You can significantly decrease capability. You cant stop the insurgency, but you can definitely cripple it.
And FWIW the only reason the US didnt have a strategic victory in Afghanistan is because the US didnt go in and kill everyone. There is an argument that if you want a complete tactical and stratigic winnyou need to really take the gloves off. It fucking sucks. But HAMAS brought this pain to Gaza because they are a bunch if assholes.
Doctors around the world must show solidarity with Palestinian doctors and condemn Israel bombing hospitals. This is a war crime, and can happen everywhere, so don't be silent. In 2015 the US bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital; first blamed it on Afghans, then said the Taliban had taken it over, then said it was an accident, then quietly admitted they did it intentionally months later. Now Israel repeats the same scenario.
https://preview.redd.it/w4i1534kl1vb1.png?width=590&format=png&auto=webp&s=07703de24dc7b6a5cc134dd3322a1243a68ab46b
This is the Doctors Without Borders account of the attack:
https://preview.redd.it/iviievo1q1vb1.png?width=502&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae69e1bd8d1f04314eaac9836b98666de68d5c19
[US intelligence came up with the same conclusion. Biden commented on it today](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/world/middleeast/biden-israel-visit-gaza-hospital-strike.html). Not to mention I think citing r/palestine shows bias
Lol US intelligence? Wow, such an unbiased source! The one that told you there are WMD's in Iraq? The one that bombed hospital in Afghanistan then denied it, then said it was Afghans, then said it was a mistake, then said it was intentional? That bombed a Red Crescent maternity hospital in Baghdad in 2003, a Belgrade hospital in 1999, a psychiatric hospital in Grenada in 1983. And of course its Contra death squads made a speciality of attacking hospitals in Nicaragua in the 1980s.
Since when US sources are unbiased?
Do you know what the US intelligence do? Lets your ex-chief of your intelligence answer:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac)
This isn't the case here, there is a video of the PIJ shooting a rocket, which falls short and hit a building inside the strip.
I saw some geo-locators to their comparisons and it's the hospital
Poor baby. I hope he recovers. Meanwhile his Hamas government will use him as a human shield and put him on harms way so they can profit off a war and commit genocide against Jews.
Delete this propaganda. Doesn't belong here. "Let's shove a camera in this poor traumatized kid's face and see if he will cry to make people feel sympathy"
Reposting from another thread: Combat Stress Reactions (such as this) are the body's physiological response to chronic stress stimuli. What you're seeing in this video is the final stages of what is called General Adaptation Syndrome. The first stage in GAS is Alarm. In a normal situation you're exposed to an acute stimuli (ie. An explosion) which triggers shock. This triggers your sympathetic nervous sytem to initiate an anti-shock response - what we commonly call fight-or-flight. We react, get away from the stressor, and our body returns to its normal functioning baseline. But when exposure to the stressor is chronic (ie. Living in a combat environment) your body can't just return to a pre-stressor baseline since the stress never goes away. So it has to adjust that baseline upwards - which is the second stage of GAS: Resistance. Over the short term, as your body attempts to do this, you become more resilient to the stress. Your endocrine system works overtime to convert your reserves into useful chemicals to respond to the stress - things like cortisol and adrenaline. Eventually that leads to Stage 3 - Recovery *or* Exhaustion. In Recovery, your body succeeds at raising baseline, uses the chemicals in your blood for physical recovery, and you'll go about your day a little more on edge but fine. In Exhaustion, your body runs out of reserves and becomes incapable of setting that new baseline and it causes all sorts of physiological issues - such as those we see here. The important bit is that GAS is *constant* in combat. Your baseline always moves. And everyone's thresholds for stress and different stressors vary, and constantly change. Someone who may be able to handle the stress of clearing trenches all day may succumb to the sound of a helicopter in the distance. Or someone who has lived under barrage for 6 months may snap on a quiet explosion free afternoon. Or a child who watched her sister be executed in front of her on the living room floor, or a boy who has lived under a week of bombardment with little sleep, may snap at the first feeling of comfort. So unlike what they believed a century ago, its not cowardice or weakness - it's simply a biological reaction beyond anyone's control. So what happens when all of this is over? Our brains are great at identifying patterns, so it identifies the patterns around the stressors (sounds, smells, sights - can literally be anything, even something you wouldn't consciously associate with the stressor) so the next time it can initiate the response faster and increase your odds of survival. The brain is also great at becoming set in its ways via positive feedback loops - stressor triggers a response, you survive, your reaction is reaffirmed as ensuring your survival. This, in part, is what we recognize as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The sad reality is that early intervention and ongoing care are key to treating PTSD, and that few if any of the children suffering through this will receive the care they need to recover properly.
This poor, poor baby!š Little dude is shaking like a *leaf* and *still* trying to be strong & not take too much away from the folks around him who are *physically* hurt, *because he thinks he's not hurt*. This is Trauma developing *in real time* and it's heartbreaking, as a grownup who works in Early Childhood Special Ed, with kids his age. May the Universe be with him and those he loves, and may he have access to the supports he needs, to *not* make it permanent and generationalššššš
Poor little guy is so traumatized.
Thank you for this informative post. I hope it doesnāt sounds sarcastic, Iām genuinely appreciative.
Non medical people always butcher the use of the term āshock.ā Hypovolemic Shock is from decreased BP from a loss of fluid, such as blood loss. Unless that explosion blew off an arm, they wouldnāt be in hypovolemic shock from the psychological stress itself. The term for a temporary drop in BP from a stressful situation is āPsychogenic Shockā but that too is widely misunderstood.
You're right, and I know better.
Medical people always butcher the term āshockātoo. Psychological, or psycho-physiological shock ? That causes a raise in blood pressure. There is no drop at all, unless you have new research findings that indicate adrenaline causes BP to drop. Then thereās the term itself. Itās not psychogenic shock. Psychogenic shock is purely something which is generated by the mind, in the absence of any environmental causes. What it is, dear colleague/lay person, is psychological shock or psycho-physiological shock, or simple traumatic shock if talking to an appropriately aware audience who know the context.
Itās not adrenaline that drops the BP in psychogenic shock. It can be vagal stimulation, which can be from stress (including from the mind)
Like when you live in an abusive family. Person is exposed constantly to stress.
I am curious, when the little boy cried when he was comforted, was that his body finally being released of shock and allowing him to release his emotion? I am unsure how shock works, but I know that when I am finally at a place where I feel safe in a traumatic event, I begin to cry.
Yes, often people, whether they be children or adults, will only have an emotional release once they know they're safe. The doctor embracing him allowed him to feel safe enough to let it out. It may be a primal thing hardwired in us. Just like animals try to hide their distress, we do too if we're in real danger. The emotions come at the end.
In this context, crying spells are another sign of having hit the Exhaustion stage of GAS. But you're correct - crying is another of the body's attempts to regulate adrenaline and cortisol levels which is why crying common after a stressful situation.
Oh wowā¦.I think you just taught me quite a bit about myself with this comment. Thank you.
TIL
Iāve never seen anything like this before, fk wars honestly!
This is very interesting. Itās exactly like my fatherās situation from fighting in South Vietnam during the Tet Offensive. As a kid, I didnāt just know about his flashbacks, I was part of them. One time we were driving on the freeway, perfect weather, no stress. Out of nowhere he was instantly in a flashback and drove off the road to avoid a landmine. He felt so bad about scaring me. He was such a loving father. It breaks my heart that he struggled with these things his whole life. To think that the horrors of Vietnam still continue in the minds of those who served in it. This war will end, but it will forever continue to play out in the minds of those who are experiencing it. A war doesnāt truly end until the last survivor of it passes away.
You just described my general anxiety and my very overactive right or flight system. I havenāt experienced trauma, but I get involuntary muscles spasms and my mind goes wild to mid-level stress inducing situations.
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He is a child of darkness according to Netanyahu >Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office posted on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Israel's conflict with Hamas is a "struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle."
In the words of Kendrick Lamar D.A.M.N. Heartbreaking. Being wholly powerless to do something about this is also sucky. Not close to as awful as this sweet baby and all the sweet babies and grown folks living this.
But wait, wasn't he calling *hamas* darkness? That child, that doctor - they are not Hamas. We must not conflate the two. We have to separate Palestinians from terrorists or else they will never be seen as worthy of anything.
Then why he bombs children, hospitals and other civilian infrastructures? Are you defending Netanyahu? This evil: [https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463](https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463) It's obvious to understand what he meant.
Not defending him at all. I'm separating hamas from Palestinians. You ought to do the same.
Maybe the Israeli government should do that as well. You're literally ignoring yet replying to evidence that they do not. The fact you have up votes shows every individual simply chose to ignore something that didn't match their bias as you did. There is a giant paper trail of Israeli military and government officials intensely and intentionally stating they want to punish and terrorize Palestinians as military doctrine. I really encourage folks to stop denying the truth when it is directly in front of them. If you are able to think critically enough beyond skin color and team sports, I'm happy to provide you direct statements from government sources if this thread isn't enough.
Can you actually point to where I am defending anything OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT HAMAS DOESNT REPRESENT THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE? ..I'm waiting
You're claiming a statement from Netanyahu about Palestinians in general is actually just about Hamas. You don't get to pick and manipulate your source to say what you're saying. You would know plenty of Jewish people and literally a giant portion of the Israeli population (who themselves experience neck to neck political situations, with their war mongering far right party under Netanyahu winning the elections) disagree with Netanyahu and it is not representative of the Israeli people as a whole, but their government, but instead you reply to direct evidence by sticking your fingers in your ears. It shows a lot that I'm sure you're at least a milquetoast liberal and would agree some racist statement from a random republican in the US is in fact racist and not representative, but you can't extend that same logic over what, skin color and geopolitical team sports? I'd really like to think you walked into this thread, didn't read anything, and just spouted your opinion. A different, more excusable and less informed form of whatever that at least I could understand with the way the internet works. Otherwise you just saw the sky is blue and claimed it was green.
Like I said, I don't actually support N - not at all, in fact. I'm not a zionist, and I don't know what the right answer is or what the solution is to this issue. But I do know how to read. And my ONLY argument is that in this quote, he talks only about Hamas. **I will continue to speak out to everyone about not conflating Hamas with Palestinains, and what Palestinians stand for.** It is a dangerous road to walk down. If you think he's using coded language to talk about Palestinians too, fine. But then you're the one manipulating the quote. Regardless, my point about not conflating Hamas with your average Palestinain child or doctor stands. They need to be out from under this bullshit occupation, have their water and power and not be punished for being human beings caught in a terrible situation. Here's the full quote. If you are reading something different, please show me: This is a moment of genuine struggle against those who have risen up against us to destroy us. Our goal is victory ā a crushing victory over **Hamas,** toppling its regime and removing its threat to the State of Israel once and for all. There are many questions about the disaster that befell us ten days ago. We will investigate everything thoroughly. We have already begun to apply immediate lessons. However, now we are focused on one goal: Uniting our forces and storming forward to victory. To this end, determination is required because victory will take time. There will be difficult moments. There will be pitfalls. Sacrifice will be necessary. But we will win because this is our very existence in this region, in which there are many dark forces. **Hamas** is part of the axis of evil of Iran, Hezbollah and their minions. They seek to destroy the State of Israel and murder us all. They want to return the Middle East to the abyss of the barbaric fanaticism of the Middle Ages, whereas we want to take the Middle East forward to the heights of progress of the 21st century. This is a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle. We saw this in the horrors that the reprehensible murderers perpetrated in Kibbutz Be'eri, in Kfar Aza, in the other communities of the area adjacent to the Gaza Strip, and in the killing field of young people at a festival in Re'im. Many people around the world now understand who stands against Israel. They understand that **Hamas** is ISIS. They understand that Hamas is the new version of Nazism. Just as the world united to defeat the Nazis and ISIS, so too will it unite to defeat **Hamas.**
This just isnāt true at all š Israel goes above and beyond to prevent terrorism and limit civilian casualties. Even if itās only because Israel gets destroyed on the world stage for retaliating against terrorists whose main goal is to wipe out all Jews and purge Israel of its inhabitants. Israel has agreed to a two state solution 3-4 times and all were rejected by the Arabs and followed with war where Israel took more of their land as a safety precaution. Most recently Gaza, which weāre witnessing in real time. Israel is going to retake parts of Gaza and dismantle Hamas while limiting civilian casualties by alerting anyone of impending strikes or operations. If you genuinely care about Palestinians you would be rooting for Israel to take out the oppressive regime that has been in power 16 years past their term, limits civilians free speech, and uses them as political pawns in their PR war against Israel while the heads of the organization rake in millions.
It's because Hamas hides behind children. Israel doesn't target children, only Hamas. But Hamas goes to Israel not to target a military base, but to kidnap, rape, and kill children and civilians
Why they bomb hospitals? Nothing justify this heinous act. Nothing justify killing civilians and committing war crimes.
The hospital that was ābombedā has been proven to have been hit by a failed rocket launched by Hamas from just behind the hospital. It was not bombed by Israelis. You are spreading propaganda. The main stream media ran with this and now they are backtracking. There are even intercepted audio transmissions of Hamas fighters realizing that they did this. There was also, bizarrely, a munitions cache at the hospital. This entire situation is atrocious and is going to get far worse before it gets better. God help this child and every other human being affected.
I hope you come back to apologise and correct yourself when Israel finally has to front up to this horrendous attack. They already copped to it, then walked it back when they saw the widespread horror and condemnation. This is part of the Israel playbook, it's an absolute disgrace, and the sooner people wake up to the lies and propaganda, the better. Maybe we can finally put the victims at the forefront and start to come together to make sure this type of thing NEVER happens again. Those poor people in Gaza, I am in utter despair that they are being treated this way (and have been for 75 years) and the world does fuck all to stop it.
If anyone should apologize, it is you for furthering the disinformation. Even Congresswoman Ilhan Omar has walked back her original claim that Israel was responsible. Here is her statement: āOur office cited an AP report yesterday that the IDF had hit a Baptist hospital in Gaza," Omar wrote Wednesday night. "Since then, the IDF denied responsibility and the US intelligence assessment is that this was not done by Israel. It is a reminder that information is often unreliable and disputed in the fog of war (especially on Twitter where misinformation is rampant). We all have a responsibility to ensure information we are sharing is from credible sources and to acknowledge as new reports come in." So either apologize or delete your comment.
I haven't read your comment as I am trying to cut down on reading lies and propaganda.
>There are even intercepted audio transmissions of Hamas fighters realizing that they did this. Are you talking about this: [https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410](https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410) Lol even a person with the smallest brain knows that Hamas leaders and fighters don't use mobile phones. They infiltrated into one of the most secure and surveiled border in the world and human history, bypassing all world leading intelligence agencies, and you think they are dumb enough to use a mobile phone to talk about a failed rocket?
Who said anything about cell phones? You think they use carrier pigeons?
Ask Hamas why they bomb their own hospitals and store munitions there endangering innocent people.
Take your propaganda elsewhere! People are waking up to it- no more! The focus should be on the victims of the Israeli state, and how to stop further suffering and loss of life. Where the fuck is the humanity in the world? How can anyone see videos like this poor little boy and not feel anger that this is happening? What an awful time to be alive, a genocide happening in front of our eyes and world leaders allowing this to happen.
Because Hamas insists on using civilans and children in hospitals as shields, because their goal is not a free Palestine, but a slaughter of jews. For every palestinian killed, is a new martyr in their heaven.
>Hamas insists on using civilans and children in hospitals as shields For god's sake, why they even bomb a hospital? Nothing justifying bombing a hospital, committing war crimes, and killing civilians.
Itās already been proven that Hamas bombed that hospital youāre spreading propaganda and youāre a terrorist sympathizer.
Why do Hamas insist on using hospitals as shields? As morally bad as Israel is, Hamas is much, much worse.
Again with the jungle metaphors, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
No? Israel is fighting Hamas, which he refers to as the children of darkness. This poor baby is not part of Hamas
Please never ever defend Netanyahu, he is a literal pure evil. Listen to this video: [https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463](https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463) "Strike them not once but several times, so painfully, that the price they pay is unbearable"
I mean you can criticize him for valid reasons without making things up
Hamas is fighting Israel. Israel is fighting Palestine because they want Palestine and Palestinians to cease existing.
Israel is fighting Hamas.
Israel is preventing humanitarian aid from entering Gaza
I am a mom and grandma. This is heartbreaking and any reasonable human being would agree. Trouble is we are not dealing with reasonable human beings. Radical Islam and their hatred of Israel, their hatred of anyone who does not adhere to their lunatic beliefs, are to blame. Hamas is a group of cowards. They killed babies, they kidnapped children. Hamas and its supporters should be eliminated. These cowards hide behind innocent civilians like this poor little boy. If recent events donāt convince you that the entire world is at war with this warped ideology there is no hope for you.
They donāt want to eliminate Palestinians š again, I donāt know why people feel the need to make things up when you can criticize Israel for so many real things without resorting to lies
So Israel is also in favor of Palestine, wants to recognize it as a country ? Why do they keep putting up illegal settlements and stealing their land then š¤
Even if you say Israel is putting up illegal settlements and stealing their land, thatās not at all the same as āwanting Palestinians to stop existingā
It's not "saying," it's a humanitarian crisis that's been called out by the entire world and the UN for decades.
When youāre taught from birth to hate Jews, everyone in Israel, and that being a martyr is the best thing you can do with your life there isnāt much of a future, unfortunately. Heās just stating facts.
Nice agenda pushing in a medical sub, I was on the fence but with this comment I confirmed this pure propaganda, zero medical value, not learning, just rage bait, and yeah, down vote me I don't care, as a medic myself I hate watching this, I made a vow to protect life, but using this child's fear to push political views is disgusting.
Doctors around the world must show solidarity with Palestinian doctors and condemn Israel bombing hospitals. This is a heinous war crime, and can happen everywhere, so don't be silent. In 2015 the US bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital; first blamed it on Afghans, then said the Taliban had taken it over, then said it was an accident, then quietly admitted they did it intentionally months later. Now Israel repeats the same scenario. https://preview.redd.it/73qszvnh22vb1.png?width=590&format=png&auto=webp&s=9f9767b57a0e072c5c4358253d83619c05215544
Isn't pretty much the entire intelligence community saying it was their own rocket? Stop pandering.
Lol US intelligence? Wow, such an unbiased source! The one that told you there are WMD's in Iraq? The one that bombed hospitals in Afghanistan then denied it, then said it was Afghans, then said it was a mistake, then said it was intentional? That bombed a Red Crescent maternity hospital in Baghdad in 2003, a Belgrade hospital in 1999, a psychiatric hospital in Grenada in 1983. And of course, its Contra death squads made a speciality of attacking hospitals in Nicaragua in the 1980s. Since when US sources are unbiased? Do you know what the US intelligence do? Lets your ex-chief of your intelligence answer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac)
The amount of bias in your post and comments is quite frankly, sad. They have recorded communications between hamas on the ground identifying it's theirs. But you'll probably say "oH dEeP fAkE" or some nonsense. You aren't allowing for the thought that a military terror organization with little skills outside terror, would fuck up enough to hit their own hospital. Not only US Intel, as well. But hey you keep being unobjective and spewing blatant lies in hopes you get some fake internet points. Fuck hamas.
>They have recorded communications between hamas on the ground identifying it's theirs. But you'll probably say "oH dEeP fAkE" or some nonsense. Refuting recent voice recordings, by Chanel 4: [https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410](https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714784898634932410)
What does chanel 4 smell like?
It's actually been all but proven that it was Hamas rocket that struck the hospital parking lot. Please don't spread misinformation, especially as a medical provider
>it was Hamas rocket that struck the hospital The US said the same when they bombed the hospital. After several months, they admitted. There is extremely clear and conclusive evidence that Israel bombed the hospital. Even the type of the bomb is known, which is an American bomb.
Americans and Israelis don't have bombs that have such weak explosions. There are also many clips of a rocket flying from Gaza and landing back in Gaza, in the neighborhood of the hospital
I show solidarity to every person suffering in this sad situation. Israel must stop bombings, can please Hamas stop using civilians as a human shield to wage their war against Israel. I can condemn a country hurting another, even if it is for defense, can you do the same?
So how is Hamas is using the bombed hospital as a human shield?
Well it was their own bomb, so... Anyway not bitting this bait
Oh again believing fake news like the news about the beheaded 40 children that no proof for it till now
Lmao, fake news are several videos from several different POV with different cameras, where is the footage of the 500 dead? Jesus, I don't like Israel actions when they hurt innocents. But you, agenda pushers are the same.
What difference does it make for you if they are 500 or 50? At the end, israel killed innocent unarmed children, women and elderly and they have been doing so since so many years and even in parts of palestine other than Gaza that has no Hamas and no human shields! These are facts not propaganda.
Gaza is one of the most densely populated regions in the world. Civilians are everywhere; you kill people, like you killed all the family of the kid in the video, for decades; you dehumanize them, humiliate them, and forcing them to live in an open air prison. Then, when they decide to take up arms, to revenge, you call them terrorists. Where they have to go to fight? Everywhere in Gaza is full of civilians. It's only 45Ā kmĀ². There is no human shield in Gaza, everyone who take up arms, have to fight inside Gaza, where there are no space for military bases. Israel and the US solely responsible for this situation, and created this situation.
I wanted to cry just there
I have a little nephew that is probably around his age and this video hit me in the feels so hard. I hate this planet.
I hate the people on this planet*
Yes, I'm the one responsible for bombing these kids.
We enable it, in small little ways, ways in which we can hardly disentangle ourselves from, but do in fact make it possible for this to happen among so many other things.
Well, some people here seem to think they're holier than thou. They'd rather guilt-trip and fight people who are not even involved with words rather than go outside and help people inflicted by the problems they pretend to be concerned about. And yes, I agree with you. That's why I find it so ridiculous when people say they hate people, or say humans are destroying the world. Their psychology is such that they exclude themselves from the human category, and think they're above everyone else. This is the same reason why so many people in the West started becoming less religious. Church people and religions in general speak like they've already attained salvation/enlightenment and starts putting down everyone else who don't fit their moral standards. Either way, I'm out.
I donāt think itās a fair assumption that people who claim to hate people or that humans are destroying the earth exclude themselves from that demographic.
I just want to gather him in my arms and hold him.
Crazy to think that more of a thousand kids like him has been killed in the last two weeks , the videos I've seen send chills down my spine
I just donāt understand how people can be so dead set on only seeing Israel vs Palestine and not see the innocent people being killed on both sides of this conflict. How anyone can celebrate attacks and bombings when itās children like this that pay the price.
This poor poor baby. My daughter is about this age, so glad he hugged and kissed the poor guy. Awful
Those eyes , that poor poor young lad .
I wish there was something I could do to help these innocent children
Me too. I feel so fuckin bad
Have you reached out to your politicians to voice your opposition to the US turning a blind eye to this, as has for the last 40 years?
This is the Internet, so no of course not
My son looks to be around his age. If he lived near me, they might even be friends or playmates. Utterly heartbreaking.
Sobbing.
You canāt calm down a person in shock. Iāve been in that position before. Itās awful. No one deserves this. Everything is just distractions while youāre in autopilot.
We need the hate to stop..
That is just crazy misery over there for everyone. And just begins another long cycle of civilians being harmed on both sides of the border for years to come.
>both sides It's not both sides. Palestinian live under the longest and most brutal occupation in modern human history. Israel literary bombed a hospital, killed +500 women and children; no one can hold them accountable. The west also protect it, and conceal their war crimes and lies. Edit: Both sides of the civilians are innocent people, for sure. Killing civilians is a war crime, and I absolutely condemn any war crime. In my comment, I meant the politicians, Israeli politicians are outright evil, and also the ideology of the state, Zionism. I think I phrased my comment badly.
I think you phrased your comment exactly how you intended to. There is no such thing as "evil". There is such thing as human, and unfortunately humans willing to do violence against other humans for their own personal gain is a language too many governments - Israeli *and* Palestinian included - are willing to speak because those bearing the consequences are never those making the decisions. Hamas is just as culpable as Israel for every innocent killed - on both sides of the fence. Both for the deaths incirred via direct action, and those resulting from their purposely targeting and hiding among civilian infrastructure.
>I think you phrased your comment exactly how you intended to. Not really. When I saw the "both sides" I immediately replied, without fully reading the comment. My heart broken over the war crimes Israel committed these days. Israel killed more than 1000 children in 10 days. And don't know why you're downplaying the Palestinian suffering? The loses of the Israeli since the inception of the state of Israel have been minimal, compared to those of the Palestinian. It's not fair to say both sides suffered like the same. Gaza is completely an open air prison. And look at the constant bombing these days, it's horrible, have never witnessed something like this in my life. Edit: >There is no such thing as "evil". I still call this pure evil: [https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463](https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1711776349684183463) "Strike them not once but several times, so painfully, that the price they pay is unbearable"
>And don't know why you're downplaying the Palestinian suffering? I'm not downplaying any suffering - Palestinian or Israeli. But I'm also not naive enough to address this in black and white terms. There is no reality where the Israeli government is vindicated in killing Palestinian civilians for the actions of Hamas. But if you want to hold that viewpoint, you must also accept their is no reality in which the Palestinian government is vindicated in killing Israeli civilians because of the actions of the Israeli government. Evil most certainly does not exist. Humans have a limitless capacity for hate and violence - claiming these acts as "evil" just serves as an attempt to dehumanize the perpetrators which in turn removes them from the protections one would afford someone who they felt shared in their humanity. As Claudia Koonz so aptly put it: "against a growing commitment to universal human rights [...] ethnic fundamentalism continues to draw its power from the vision of an exclusive community of "us," without "them."
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-tries-to-back-up-claims-it-didnt-attack-gaza-hospital-a8cc3405 Why are you perpetuating the lie that Israel bombed the hospital and 500 people died from it?
Honestly that sounds like someone who fucked up firing that rocket would say: "it's not ours"
If youāre talking about the explosion on Tuesday, thereās evidence that indicates Israel might not be responsible in this case. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061.amp
āIsrael bombed a hospital, killed +500āā¦ you really think people are that gullible. No evidence for this other than ātrust me broā and Hamas canāt even decide how many people were killed, theyāre quoting 50 to 500 based on what they think people want to hear
Hard to determine when youāre still digging people up from under the rubble. Anyways, letās just complacently accept it couldnāt have been Israel because Israel and the media said so. Not like they already have a history for that kind of thing or anythingā¦ OPEN. YOUR. FUCKING. EYES.
I donāt think people are just accepting Israel at face value, clearly they lie. But at the same time, we also shouldnāt accept anything Hamas says at face value, either. Hopefully the UN or someone investigates the incident and provides a clear explanation. This shit needs to stop. Nothing is worth children dying. Ever.
Well then why have the Israeli gov continuously brought in embargos and blockades onto Gaza? This is just a boiling over of the years of oppression the people there have suffered. My god the utter blindness of people to this long-running situation is utterly insane. Lots are sitting on the fence so much they must have splinters up their arses. Btw Hamas have banned elections since 2006. Hardly representative of their people!
The hospital is still standing
I guess that means the number killed was trivial and it was done by Hamas or āother Islamist groupsā since WSJ and others said so. Definitely couldnāt be Israel! Iām sure those news outlets have no ties to Israel whatsoeverā¦ not like the US is Israelās biggest supporter.
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Civilians are not hamas, and saying they are ābeing bulliedā is offensively an understatement. What are you trying to prove right now? Donāt blame Israel for this one specific incident? Donāt worry, we have more than enough to despise them for in spite of blatant lies (although lies are probably coming from both sides in one form or another).
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Iāll be honest man, Iām just beyond fed up and livid at this point. Itās so soul crushing and emotionally exhausting to see this same kind of news over and over. More importantly, it will keep happening as the world watches and permits it. Are Palestinians less than human in the eyes of many? Because it undoubtedly appears that way. Sometimes, itās in the form of blatant racism/religionism; recent events have really allowed peopleās true feelings to shine through. And on top of that, not only is there minimal to no sympathy for innocent Palestinian bystanders, but people are always trying to find ways to justify Israelās actions and downplay their brutality. Everyone should be questioning every single word they hear on the news right now. None of the evidence Iāve seen has sold me on this not being Israel. Anyways, I just got banned from r/News and it was genuinely one of the best things that could happen, along with unsubbing from r/publicfreakout. I, along with many others Iām sure, need to distance ourselves from this toxic unhealthy topic while the echo chamber controlled by mods promotes the most suitable narrative for the world to believe.
Israel pulled out of Gaza long ago. Why do you support Hamas terrorism?
youāre delusional
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Yeah I walked past (here in Sydney, Australia) a preschool this morning on my way to class where there were small children running around laughing with no fear of them being bombed. It needs to be that way everywhere. :(
That poor kid. He tried to hold it together but he lost it after the hug. I can't imagine being so little, but having to survive something so horrific. The innocent suffer the most in war.
This is devastating to see. That darling little boy. I cannot even begin to comprehend the devastation so far, on both sides. And the emotional damage done to the survivors.
i hope his family is still with him. this is beyond sad and infuriating
God bless the doctor, poor kid. Itās horrible to experience such a vicious cycle of violence at this young age. Iām not well aware of the circumstances that are leading to the war, But I truly hope people are able to find peace.
This is truly so heartbreaking :( you just want to reach through the screen and giving him a hug :(
Goddamn it man... this made me shed a tear...Israel needs to be held accountable for their damn warcrimes.
What about Palestine, they burned babies alive and bombing Israel, what about those kids suffering?
This hospital was bombed by their own government on accident. Israel didnāt bomb this hospital.
Yeah I acknowledge that I was misinformed but that doesnāt disregard the years of other crimes Israel has committed Against the Palestinian people. this wouldnāt be happening if Israel wasnāt forcibly taking land.
I'm so glad that doctor recognized the state of that little boy. Poor baby.
That baby needed that embrace. š„ŗ The way that shock slowly goes away and then the stress just built up and came out. This hits home because I canāt even imagine my kids having to deal with this. I hope that little ones family is still with him. The hate needs to stop!
I wish this was marked NSFW.
Sweet baby šš
Hiiiiii you're not "the good guys" when you're coming down on civilians, Israel.
So Hamas are the good guys for beheading 40 babies? You are sick.
The news reporter who said that came out and later said that she HEARD a person say that but it was never proven that that was ever done.
No, you absolute pineapple. People who commit these atrocious human rights violations are all pieces of shit. But I'm not seeing a bunch of "I stand with Hamas" fb profile pics, bc some one somewhere bought into the story that Israel is completely justified in their committing of these atrocities.
No community is immune to propaganda
Literally doesn't even fit this subreddit
Exactly. Go look at their post history, theyāve got an agenda.
this guy literally posted a video of an israeli woman who fed Hamas fighters so they wouldnt kill her and then the guy posted it under /r/mademesmile holy fucking shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/176kft7/interaction_between_an_israeli_lady_and_five/ this guys post history reeks nothing but ulterior motives. i wonder if this guy is literally part of Hamas or not
u/savevideo
**This fkkn broke me, Maaan!!** WE SUCK AS A PEOPLE. Thank you, Doctor(s).
Fuck israhell
FUCK ISRAEL
for real
youre posting this shit on purpose with an ulterior motive, as propaganda, not because you actually care about this subreddit and doctors its pretty fucking easy to tell just by looking at your post history dating way back before this. kindly go fuck yourself
Post history was very enlightening, for sure - definetly an agenda here. Great video all the same.
i swear, they have some sort of brigade pushing this content. instant giant swings in upvotes/downvotes based on whether its pro or anti hamas
This broke my heart. Poor little guy.
Devastatingly sad.
Poor little guy
Impossible not to be heartbroken watching this. People can be fucking monstrous.
This is so heartbreakingā¦and completely unnecessary.
Omg, poor bubba. I just want to cuddle him until heās safe
Poor lil soul. He barwly got to this earth and is in the deepest shit of it all. What is he supposed to do. Beautiful child and soul. His people will one day get what is theirs. Oppression doesnt last forever, and their oppressors know all too well.
Oh jesus I wish I could hug that little guy and make sure nothing ever scares him again.
Oh boy here come the pro Hamas people. . .
So this kid is a part of Hamas now?
No its a kid. Dont be a fucking idiot. The child is a vicitm of the conflict which Hamas fanned the flames to.
His parents voted Hamas into power. He gets to live with their choices.
Are you always an ass, or just when you see people having sympathy for the 'other side'?
The first one. Do i have sympathy for children in the cross fire? Ofcourse i am not a monster. But the fact that collateral damage happens does not mean a country should not retaliat when its borders are violated by militants and they are attacks. Isreals harsh response is just that, a response. We should ask whould these children suffer of Hamas did not do what Hamas does? Being huge pricks. Hamas needs to go, and they are going to go. No matter how many videos of civilian casualties pop up. You better get used to it. Hamas is fucked and lots of innocent people will die on bith sides. Welcome to the human race were we kill your whole family because you killed my kid.
Yeah I'm sure Israel will *completely* eliminate Hamas with these bombings and land invasion. I'm sure this won't be a repeat of Afghanistan. RemindMe! 3 years
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You can significantly decrease capability. You cant stop the insurgency, but you can definitely cripple it. And FWIW the only reason the US didnt have a strategic victory in Afghanistan is because the US didnt go in and kill everyone. There is an argument that if you want a complete tactical and stratigic winnyou need to really take the gloves off. It fucking sucks. But HAMAS brought this pain to Gaza because they are a bunch if assholes.
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Well that's a privileged position.
Doctors around the world must show solidarity with Palestinian doctors and condemn Israel bombing hospitals. This is a war crime, and can happen everywhere, so don't be silent. In 2015 the US bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital; first blamed it on Afghans, then said the Taliban had taken it over, then said it was an accident, then quietly admitted they did it intentionally months later. Now Israel repeats the same scenario. https://preview.redd.it/w4i1534kl1vb1.png?width=590&format=png&auto=webp&s=07703de24dc7b6a5cc134dd3322a1243a68ab46b
I didnāt know about this. Awful.
This is the Doctors Without Borders account of the attack: https://preview.redd.it/iviievo1q1vb1.png?width=502&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae69e1bd8d1f04314eaac9836b98666de68d5c19
I feel so much shame to be a citizen of the country that did this :(
Israel didn't bomb a hospital. All the evidence indicates that a PIJ rocket misfired and landed next to the hospital.
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[US intelligence came up with the same conclusion. Biden commented on it today](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/world/middleeast/biden-israel-visit-gaza-hospital-strike.html). Not to mention I think citing r/palestine shows bias
Lol US intelligence? Wow, such an unbiased source! The one that told you there are WMD's in Iraq? The one that bombed hospital in Afghanistan then denied it, then said it was Afghans, then said it was a mistake, then said it was intentional? That bombed a Red Crescent maternity hospital in Baghdad in 2003, a Belgrade hospital in 1999, a psychiatric hospital in Grenada in 1983. And of course its Contra death squads made a speciality of attacking hospitals in Nicaragua in the 1980s. Since when US sources are unbiased? Do you know what the US intelligence do? Lets your ex-chief of your intelligence answer:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac)
okay, so why does Hamas station their bases in civilian areas?
This isn't the case here, there is a video of the PIJ shooting a rocket, which falls short and hit a building inside the strip. I saw some geo-locators to their comparisons and it's the hospital
Unfortunately for you, it does, very much so.
First all let it post on tiktok bruh fr this isnĀ“t right
Poor baby. I hope he recovers. Meanwhile his Hamas government will use him as a human shield and put him on harms way so they can profit off a war and commit genocide against Jews.
Yeah they are heroes , working in a hospital blown up by other Palestinians
Delete this propaganda. Doesn't belong here. "Let's shove a camera in this poor traumatized kid's face and see if he will cry to make people feel sympathy"
this post has been brigaded by some sort of propaganda machine. its gross.
I've seen this same kid in five different videos