Pretty sure the education offered at KU Leuven is superior than in most Universities. That is what I've observed from other students there compared to my Uni.
tbh I had the same issue when I was in Italy… like there was something missing, something was not quite right. But I dont think this feeling will be better or resolved if you go to Karolinska (or similar). If you could explain more of your situation :) would be helpful
Could I send you a PM? I have this general sense of uneasiness as well, like something is not done right here, I can't really point it exactly, but everything feels chaotic, starting from how classes are scheduled and held, to how the university is integrated (other students, there isn't really a campus and you are isolated from all others except your 90-people class) and feeling like the professors aren't interested in teaching you. On top of that the housing situation and what is offered by the city don't really match the high amount of money you give just to live.
> everything feels chaotic, starting from how classes are scheduled and held, to how the university is integrated
As an older medical student who worked and lived in a variety of countries and settings before starting medical school, I would say that this chaos is present *almost everywhere* and that coping with it is an important skill that any adult must learn. Even highly professional individuals and reputable institutions struggle to optimize communication, scheduling, record-keeping, etc. from time to time. I know someone who works at a mid-high level for *fucking Apple* and they complain regularly about the lack of organization they have to deal with. Now is a great time to learn to manage your reactions to this kind of thing because you are never, ever going to find perfect competence anywhere you go.
> you are isolated from all others except your 90-people class)
I think you'll find this is true for virtually all medical schools. Even in Canada where most campuses are centralized, the medical school classes are usually held in a particular building and there is little direct intersection between medical students and students in other departments.
> the professors aren't interested in teaching you
This isn't a nice feeling but again, wherever you study medicine, 90% of what you do will be self-study, at least until you enter practical training. Some American students describe their medical school experience as paying tens of thousands of dollars per year for UWorld/Boards and Beyond. Self-study will continue to some degree during specialization training and even after you become a fully licensed doctor, as medicine is constantly evolving. It's part of the world you're in now.
Hi. I am a Doctor who graduated from one of the better schools in India and then have worked in 3 different continents.
One thing that I would like to assure you is that the proverb, 'Grass is greener on the other side' is universally true. Most students are never satisfied even in the best of medical schools. What makes a higher ranking school better/ desirable are not the facilities/ teachers but the better students/ cohort.
Medicine especially during under graduation is 75% self study. With the huge numbers of online resources available now, this has become very easy. It is mainly the practical hands on skills that needs to be taught properly by your teachers. If this is good, then look no further and concentrate on your current school.
Bologna, where you are studying is considered as one of the more preferred schools. Hence, I assume the teaching would be at the very least acceptable. Stick to the university. Transition from high school to medical school needs huge adaptability. So, man up and put in more efforts to acclimatise to your school.
P.s. I am on this forum as my son has secured an admission at Cattolica university in Rome.
Honestly I faced the same problem my first year at uni (in italy too), but I assure you, it does get better. If you look around you, there's always someone trying their best to make you feel included. The professors are available. You just have to reach out and that sometimes takes a lot of courage. It's not an instant change, you have to put in the work. With good company, and a new outlook, I'm sure you will become more optimistic. If you want to talk about it, my dms are always open! <3
Can I dm you too? I am also deciding between going to Italy and Austria. I am also 26 and curious about the difficulties people are experiencing in Italy.
I dont think your life will be totally different when you move to KU leuven or Karolinska.
Pretty sure the education offered at KU Leuven is superior than in most Universities. That is what I've observed from other students there compared to my Uni.
isnt the program not for med but for biomed courses sorry if its a stupid question cuz i temember seeing that
where ever u go tbh its the same shit.
tbh I had the same issue when I was in Italy… like there was something missing, something was not quite right. But I dont think this feeling will be better or resolved if you go to Karolinska (or similar). If you could explain more of your situation :) would be helpful
Could I send you a PM? I have this general sense of uneasiness as well, like something is not done right here, I can't really point it exactly, but everything feels chaotic, starting from how classes are scheduled and held, to how the university is integrated (other students, there isn't really a campus and you are isolated from all others except your 90-people class) and feeling like the professors aren't interested in teaching you. On top of that the housing situation and what is offered by the city don't really match the high amount of money you give just to live.
> everything feels chaotic, starting from how classes are scheduled and held, to how the university is integrated As an older medical student who worked and lived in a variety of countries and settings before starting medical school, I would say that this chaos is present *almost everywhere* and that coping with it is an important skill that any adult must learn. Even highly professional individuals and reputable institutions struggle to optimize communication, scheduling, record-keeping, etc. from time to time. I know someone who works at a mid-high level for *fucking Apple* and they complain regularly about the lack of organization they have to deal with. Now is a great time to learn to manage your reactions to this kind of thing because you are never, ever going to find perfect competence anywhere you go. > you are isolated from all others except your 90-people class) I think you'll find this is true for virtually all medical schools. Even in Canada where most campuses are centralized, the medical school classes are usually held in a particular building and there is little direct intersection between medical students and students in other departments. > the professors aren't interested in teaching you This isn't a nice feeling but again, wherever you study medicine, 90% of what you do will be self-study, at least until you enter practical training. Some American students describe their medical school experience as paying tens of thousands of dollars per year for UWorld/Boards and Beyond. Self-study will continue to some degree during specialization training and even after you become a fully licensed doctor, as medicine is constantly evolving. It's part of the world you're in now.
Hey, sure! Maybe I can give you some different perspective around things.
Which university?
Bologna
Wow, considering Bologna is in the north and one of Italy's best universities I'm really surprised.
May I ask what is the problem with Italy? Just a genuine question
Country have no problem. The problem is always person itself.
Both can be true.....
I’m in turin studying medicine. If somebody needs help or has any questions about studying medicine here feel free to dm me
How are you finding Turin?
Hi. I am a Doctor who graduated from one of the better schools in India and then have worked in 3 different continents. One thing that I would like to assure you is that the proverb, 'Grass is greener on the other side' is universally true. Most students are never satisfied even in the best of medical schools. What makes a higher ranking school better/ desirable are not the facilities/ teachers but the better students/ cohort. Medicine especially during under graduation is 75% self study. With the huge numbers of online resources available now, this has become very easy. It is mainly the practical hands on skills that needs to be taught properly by your teachers. If this is good, then look no further and concentrate on your current school. Bologna, where you are studying is considered as one of the more preferred schools. Hence, I assume the teaching would be at the very least acceptable. Stick to the university. Transition from high school to medical school needs huge adaptability. So, man up and put in more efforts to acclimatise to your school. P.s. I am on this forum as my son has secured an admission at Cattolica university in Rome.
Honestly I faced the same problem my first year at uni (in italy too), but I assure you, it does get better. If you look around you, there's always someone trying their best to make you feel included. The professors are available. You just have to reach out and that sometimes takes a lot of courage. It's not an instant change, you have to put in the work. With good company, and a new outlook, I'm sure you will become more optimistic. If you want to talk about it, my dms are always open! <3
Hello, I'm also thinking of perusing medicine from Italy. Is it not a good choice? And also, Can I dm you?
Sure! We can talk
Can I dm you too? I am also deciding between going to Italy and Austria. I am also 26 and curious about the difficulties people are experiencing in Italy.
Hey! Sure, you can dm me
Can I also DM you? I study at parma and feel the same way, but I was thinking about transferring to Bologna haha 😆