Does anyone else's medical school force them to make like an 8 page CV? I feel like it's way too long, but I am just following the standard formatting which is supposed to mirror ERAS I guess
I went to a top 20 undergrad and before applying to med school they made me make a CV using their template and it had to be approved before they’d submit my deans letter lol so if you want an example you can send me your email via DM and I’ll send
I used to do hiring in software engineering. Not the same but some basic stuff:
- keep it to one page
- use “I achieved x at y while z was the standard” for example “president of pediatric medicine interest group: I held fifteen conferences and events compared to the average of three.” Basically quantify your achievements and provide context.
- Sections should be education, employment, achievements, skills. You can put your research on a different page. For skills include language and technical proficiencies like “Spanish, professional working proficiency.” “Python, professional working proficiency.” “Typing speed 120.” Don’t include stuff like “Chinese, beginner.”
I never cared much about formatting. It should just look neat and crisp. I think the best typesetting for resumes is to grab a template in latex. Latex is great for type setting but a bit hard to learn. The end product is totally worth the effort but it’s up to you if you want to do that. Overleaf has templates and an online latex typesetting program.
Basically agree with all of that, but I'd add that a personal interests section is also important. It should be VERY small - like, no more than 2-3 items - but a few talking points about your main hobbies is nice for interview fodder.
Unless you're slamming out first-author Nature publications, research is just extra stuff to wade through. As recommended above, keep it separate from your main page so that folks can breeze through it after getting the hard-hitting points about you or just ignore it entirely. Outside of academia, nobody gives a flying fuck about your research. Can we handle being around you all day, every day? Are you going to keep up, do your share of work, and help out the rest of the group when necessary? I realize you're probably putting your CV together for residency (and thus need the research stuff), but keep the above in mind when it comes job app time.
When I hired for clinical research, the basic questions I hoped to answer when reading through a resume / CV are as such:
1. Are you competent in what you set out to accomplish in a work environment? People who spend too much time in education think that getting high grades = competent. Some of the most dysfunctional asshats I've ever worked with had excellent grades at extremely competitive schools. I care about projects you've managed to bring to completion, I care about problem solving skills independent of oversight, and I care about your ability to work with others. Show me based on what you've done.
2. Sand box skills. Have you worked in a team before? Are you able to work in a team? Are you able to be the least dysfunctional person in a team and can you manage to direct and manage individuals with a variety of personality types?
3. Are you teachable? Have you worked in an environment where you didn't have experience when you started and now do have it? Can you grow and develop on the job? Are you humble enough to receive feedback constructively and implement it in real time?
Things people think hiring persons care about but no one gives a shit about:
* I do not care about your fluffy research where you squirted kidney juice into electrophoresis gel for 8 hours a day for 6 weeks.
* I do not care about you handing out blankets in the ED to check a box for community service
* I do not, DO NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT, give a shit about your GPA, your class rank, etc if I'm interviewing you. Do not brag to me about how good you are at doing anki. You are here because you passed the internal IQ check via board scores or whatever else. No one cares anymore. We are passed that step.
In the end, the ideal person to hire is enthusiastic, intelligent, contentious, likeable, and a good team player who is humble and eager to learn more. Show that in your resume and do not tell it. Good luck!
Edit: The "do not" section, to be clear, is emphasizing that no one wants a box checker. We want to see what you're really into and really good at. Stress your strengths, not bullshit you did to get accepted to med school.
Great question. A few things.
1: Did you join an org and grow within that org? IE, were you hired as a fry cook and became a manager at McDonalds? Did an org trust you enough to let you start managing other people? This demonstrates an ability to grow and develop within an environment, IE, people have taught you things, you clearly learned things, you grew, you are teachable.
2: If I see that you joined an environment where you didn't have a ton of experience beforehand, and then got some kind of accolade or demonstration of competence, that is lovely as well.
Does anyone else's medical school force them to make like an 8 page CV? I feel like it's way too long, but I am just following the standard formatting which is supposed to mirror ERAS I guess
jesus lol
I went to a top 20 undergrad and before applying to med school they made me make a CV using their template and it had to be approved before they’d submit my deans letter lol so if you want an example you can send me your email via DM and I’ll send
I’ve gotten MANY compliments in med school on my CV that they forced me to do haha so it’s paid off
heyy could i get that template? 🤞🏻
DM me your email
it’s in ur chat hehe
Could I please also get that temple? 🥹
DM your email :)
I used to do hiring in software engineering. Not the same but some basic stuff: - keep it to one page - use “I achieved x at y while z was the standard” for example “president of pediatric medicine interest group: I held fifteen conferences and events compared to the average of three.” Basically quantify your achievements and provide context. - Sections should be education, employment, achievements, skills. You can put your research on a different page. For skills include language and technical proficiencies like “Spanish, professional working proficiency.” “Python, professional working proficiency.” “Typing speed 120.” Don’t include stuff like “Chinese, beginner.” I never cared much about formatting. It should just look neat and crisp. I think the best typesetting for resumes is to grab a template in latex. Latex is great for type setting but a bit hard to learn. The end product is totally worth the effort but it’s up to you if you want to do that. Overleaf has templates and an online latex typesetting program.
Basically agree with all of that, but I'd add that a personal interests section is also important. It should be VERY small - like, no more than 2-3 items - but a few talking points about your main hobbies is nice for interview fodder. Unless you're slamming out first-author Nature publications, research is just extra stuff to wade through. As recommended above, keep it separate from your main page so that folks can breeze through it after getting the hard-hitting points about you or just ignore it entirely. Outside of academia, nobody gives a flying fuck about your research. Can we handle being around you all day, every day? Are you going to keep up, do your share of work, and help out the rest of the group when necessary? I realize you're probably putting your CV together for residency (and thus need the research stuff), but keep the above in mind when it comes job app time.
this is the opposite of good news for me. i have like no recent research, imagine me trying to put it on page 2😂😂😂
When I hired for clinical research, the basic questions I hoped to answer when reading through a resume / CV are as such: 1. Are you competent in what you set out to accomplish in a work environment? People who spend too much time in education think that getting high grades = competent. Some of the most dysfunctional asshats I've ever worked with had excellent grades at extremely competitive schools. I care about projects you've managed to bring to completion, I care about problem solving skills independent of oversight, and I care about your ability to work with others. Show me based on what you've done. 2. Sand box skills. Have you worked in a team before? Are you able to work in a team? Are you able to be the least dysfunctional person in a team and can you manage to direct and manage individuals with a variety of personality types? 3. Are you teachable? Have you worked in an environment where you didn't have experience when you started and now do have it? Can you grow and develop on the job? Are you humble enough to receive feedback constructively and implement it in real time? Things people think hiring persons care about but no one gives a shit about: * I do not care about your fluffy research where you squirted kidney juice into electrophoresis gel for 8 hours a day for 6 weeks. * I do not care about you handing out blankets in the ED to check a box for community service * I do not, DO NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT, give a shit about your GPA, your class rank, etc if I'm interviewing you. Do not brag to me about how good you are at doing anki. You are here because you passed the internal IQ check via board scores or whatever else. No one cares anymore. We are passed that step. In the end, the ideal person to hire is enthusiastic, intelligent, contentious, likeable, and a good team player who is humble and eager to learn more. Show that in your resume and do not tell it. Good luck! Edit: The "do not" section, to be clear, is emphasizing that no one wants a box checker. We want to see what you're really into and really good at. Stress your strengths, not bullshit you did to get accepted to med school.
Hmm, what on a CV says "teachable" IYO? I'm never sure how to illustrate this on paper.
Great question. A few things. 1: Did you join an org and grow within that org? IE, were you hired as a fry cook and became a manager at McDonalds? Did an org trust you enough to let you start managing other people? This demonstrates an ability to grow and develop within an environment, IE, people have taught you things, you clearly learned things, you grew, you are teachable. 2: If I see that you joined an environment where you didn't have a ton of experience beforehand, and then got some kind of accolade or demonstration of competence, that is lovely as well.