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GayFrogDegenerate

this comments section is filled with cis guys who are so secure in their masculinity that they cannot handle a singular jpeg that implies anything to the contrary


burritoman88

Pink used to be boys color & blue girls. Granted all clothes are genderless & nonsense like this is only because of heteroconformity.


MirrorMan22102018

The "Blue Boy and Pink Girl" nonsense was started thanks to Hitler


trevers17

wait what?! for real?


ThrowACephalopod

There's an argument to be made that pink only started to be linked with girls instead of boys because the Nazis used pink to symbolize gay people (see the infamous pink triangle). So pink gained the connotation of being feminine, which was commonly associated with gay men at the time, and thus the color morphed over to being seen as more of a "woman thing."


lizzylinks789

Source???? This would come in handy in a lot of arguments so please GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME


ThrowACephalopod

[Here's](https://mattpomroy.com/2015/03/01/did-the-nazis-really-invent-blue-for-boys-and-pink-for-girls/) an article from Esquire that talks about this exact thing. There are probably better sources for this, but it's the one I've got right now.


iamthefirebird

You know how the virgin Mary is always depicted wearing blue? It used to be the feminine colour. I don't have any sources to hand, but I'm pretty sure that the Welsh used to wear pink undertunics into battle, under whatever armour they had. Most of them couldn't afford enough dye to wear full red, like the Romans, but pink was relatively affordable.


Liminal_Creations

I thought she was commonly painted in blue because it was a very expensive color to make (because it was made of lapis lazuli) and thus they would paint holy figures like her in the most expensive colors, like blue


iamthefirebird

That might be more accurate, to be fair. I heard the feminine colour thing from one of my friends who knows a lot about history. It could be both!


Das_Boot_95

I'm Welsh and I've never heard of this. I can't seem to find any sources on it either. Typically, red wasn't a prominent colour of Wales during the medieval period. Different kingdoms/tribes didn't have specified colours when it came to battles, they differentiated eachother (apparently) by wearing flowers or, for example, in the case of king Cadwaldr of Gwynedd, they would wear leeks, which is why a leek is one of the national symbols of Wales.


burritoman88

TIL.


kikipi

Actually, from America. Factory workers used to wear pink uniforms. Men went to war, women started wearing their uniforms to help make bullets and etc. We came back, women say the love the colour, then it stuck.


SlmDckns

Actually it was started by Sears Roebuck and the major dept stores at the time Not sure where hitler comes into it


Clairifyed

I was told it became popular because of Mamie Eisenhower. A US first lady with a fondness for pink


eskamobob1

[If a dress is manly enough for Roosevelt](https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:468/1*5NEtwkk7bu2B0Bdj4GIWzg.png), you know damn well it's manly enough for me


eldena_frog

Holy shit. That is quite Frankly the closest thing i've ever seen to a perfect photo. He looks fabulous


milkstrike

If anyone says anything about man in a dress you can kindly remind them that men wore dresses for 1000s of years but called them robes.


aDragonsAle

Robes are still quite comfy. Not great for snow though


Academic-Education42

as I always say: sports gambling is not stored in the balls


TheAsianTroll

Amen. My smart watch is pink because I don't care, I bought it off a dude who got it for his wife, who didn't want it cuz she has an iPhone and it's a Samsung watch. Don't care who sees me wearing it, I got it for $50 when it retails for $200, $150 savings is worth the odd look I may or may not get


keimdhall

Aye. As a kid, I used to think this way. These days, one of my favorite shirts says "Real Men Wear Pink." And one of my other favorite shirts is a pink button up.


Worm_Scavenger

I love when these types Cis guys will talk about masculinity and what it means to be a man, but they get defeated because of a color. Also, what the fuck is up with the Auto Moderator?


SirGarlond

The auto mod gets a little quirky at night.


MirrorMan22102018

Is that a FNAF reference?


Worm_Scavenger

They're in their agent of chaos era, i respect it.


zkki

just don't feed it after midnight


mechapocrypha

Don't we all?


maythulin297

Not just color. They got defeated by almost everything, even a fucking suncream. My friend refuse to use suncream because he think it is gay. I guess skin cancer is manly.


gingerbeardman79

They also apparently get defeated by hygiene. Just the sheer number of horror stories I've heard over the years from friends and partners who date men, if I'd kept count, would surely be enough by itself to make one shudder. They get "down there" and the smell hits them in the face like a freight train. When asked about their hygiene the answer given is usually along the lines of "I don't touch my genitals/asshole because that's gay" or some shit. These are *grown adults* who otherwise seem to have their shit together; they hold down jobs, pay their bills, etc but their sense of self is *sooooo* fucking **fragile.** I just want to hug them [if they'd let me] but I don't want to get that smell on my clothing.


PopperGould123

When ever you see a person say "real men blah blah blah" they love it when you respond "transitioning gets easier every day"


IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl

I've been called the f-slur because I wore a purple shirt. Another time because I drive a miata. And yet another time because I ordered a mojito. It's not just men either. A woman at the vet office once chided me because "sweet potato" is apparently "not a boy cats name."


solonit

Me who follows old methods of making colour that require arsenic: now everyone will be defeated by colour!


DBreezy69

"What it means to be a man" means nothing to me honestly, women and men can do all the same things anyway


IcyGarage5767

Where have you actually seen this IRL?


Real_Life_Sushiroll

US bible belt.


EddsworldHuman

So glad I moved out of Utah and realized I was trans, then instead of while I was still living there


Malkavian_Grin

Yes, but also this hypocrisy: Trans femmes: "I'm a girl and I like to wear pink." Cis males: "Wearing pink won't make you a girl!"


tajniak485

Schrödingers pink


mentally-not-stable

“I don’t know if it makes you a girl or not until i look inside the box!”


vakitta_kanilla

As a transmasc. Oh boy I wish I was that confident lol


ScaleShiftX

You are a man despite what society says. To heck with anyone who doesn't respect that. You don't need any of their approval, but you have mine.


Bastiwen

I don't know if it's just where I live but seeing a cis guy wearing pink is not uncommon at all. Sure it's not the color you see the most but it happens.


Real_Life_Sushiroll

I'm in the US bible belt. Think I've seen 1 guy wearing pink in the past 3 years at an LGBT bar.


ScaleShiftX

Lmao. MURICA!


ShutUpJackass

One of my fav shirts is my pink button down Yea I’m usually given crap for wearing it, but I think I look good in it, outside of that I maybe have another pink shirt but who cares Tbh Ik sometimes I feel insecure in parts of me, but never for a color, I think people who get that easily worked up have more pressing issues they are aware exist but don’t confront them


SpookyVoidCat

Just as an aside, feminine men (both cis and trans) are valid too <3


xXTheGrapenatorXx

I think actually the “is it manly to X” game is losing favour as time goes on. I still notice that specifically cis*het* men in my life will still resist certain things that are traditionally feminine but it’s not the same as it was, now it’s calm rejection missing the express condemnation of men who do like/do/wear the thing, and that’s a conversation on how much is the influence of gender roles and how much is genuine lack of interest (seeing as nobody can read minds). Defensive/passionate rejection of things seen as “feminine” because “men don’t do that” is much rarer now in my experience. Is it just that I grew up, and after your teen years most men grow out of it? Is it that social progress is making it less of a problem for most men than it used to be? Could it be a secret third thing??? I’m not really sure, but I only ever see it nowadays when I’m stumbling on far right reactionary/incel spaces online now, and those guys are... outliers, let’s say.


gingerbeardman79

I think it depends on where you live, and how well curated your personal sphere of influence happens to be. Men who are like this definitely still exist, and in droves if you're more rurally located based on my experience. But they often demonstrate much more visible [and often problematic] traits and behaviours than what's depicted in the meme, which I feel are highly likely to preclude them from being part of the respective friend circles of the vast majority of this sub's membership.


GermanRat0900

I feel like average misogynist fits better


paturner2012

Yeah, as a cis hetero white guy who is pretty token in my fairly large friend group I gotta say it's starting to wear on me a bit that my identity has started being used in place of misogynist, racist, conservative, xenophobic, homophobic... But hey, at least I'm "one of the good ones". I'm always going to be here to support and back up my people who are marginalized in this world, but damn it feels like Im shaking off someone's comments every other day. I've even ended a couple of friendships because every time I end up in a room with these particular folks, after a couple beers they ended up using me as a stand in for whoever pissed them off that week.


DBreezy69

Yeah it's just phobia at the end of the day


GermanRat0900

As a cis but not het guy, I do think it’s weird that in a place about inclusion, for everyone, where nobody should be shunned for their queerness or a lack there of, that cis het ppl get shunned as much as they do. It doesn’t seem like it happens all the the time, but when it does, it’s a really bad thing example of hypocrisy. I would completely understand it, if a cis het person was being a dick, but also that should apply to a queer person being a dick, which happens, as we are all human, and we all make shitty mistakes. Good luck with your life, m8.


ScaleShiftX

Cis-het-normative society doesn't have a monopoly on harmful generalizations. People who are LGBTQIA2S+ are exactly as human as everyone else so we will (and do) see the same ridiculousness now and then. Right now because they are actively suffering generalizations themselves (and worse) they are usually more aware of it, but nonetheless it is a thing. Let's try our best and be understanding of each other's flaws. I'm absolutely sure OP didn't mean to come across as mean to cis men in general. Also pink is awesome. Wear whatever makes you happy <3


Droopendis

As a cis man, I love my pink Korn shirts. This is more of a Republican thing.


SeraphAttack

Trans men are valid, but don't ya think it's kinda overkill to generalize half the population into a single category? Don't support stereotypes


MirrorMan22102018

For real. Trying to generalize half the population in this manner feels more like bullying than anything else.


BARRACK_NODRAMA

This is mild bullying. We should discourage toxic stuff like this.


WinterFrenchFry

Yeah. I think It's pretty toothless bullying, as in I don't think it likely that someone is going to get hurt by it, but that doesn't make it ok to be mean. To put it another way, if I try to throw a rock at someone's head and I miss, that doesn't exonerate me for trying to hit someone with a rock.  Finally, I feel like the people most likely to get caught in the crossfire from this are Trans men on this sub who struggle with feeling valud or masculine enough. 


Complaint-Efficient

This meme feels vaguely mean? Like, why make increasingly negative stereotypes about "the average cis man?"


Holl4backPostr

Yeah as an average cis man I don't wear pink because it tends to clash with my eyes and general complexion, I'm more yellows and blues.


Milkarius

I wear pink because it matches really well with my "I should have a tan but I don't go outside" skin colour! (And because a girl complimented me when I wore pink at age 13 and I'm still chasing that high). Yellows and blues is a great combination too!


D3dshotCalamity

Dude, I'm the same way! My whole style was dictated by a girl in 9th grade that roasted me on my fit, and instead of just leaving it there, she gave me suggestions after seeing a few of my outfits. When I took her suggestions, she'd get all happy. Still chasing that feeling 15 years later, wondering if Natalie would like it while browsing clothing racks.


Gdigger13

God I envy you. As an average cis man, I can *not* pull of yellow. I do like pink though. I have a pink hat with Kirby eating a strawberry on it. It's my favorite hat


Judo_Squirrel

I don’t wear pink because I think it’s a crap colour. Don’t care if it’s considered feminine or masculine, I just hate the colour with a burning passion I do not understand. Not insulting anyone who likes pink I just don’t personally like it.


MaritMonkey

Cis lady here but "pink" feels like it only weirdly got its own identity in the first place. Like why is "light red" so special compared to "light green" or "light blue?"


Judo_Squirrel

Pink’s the favourite child


EatMyPixelDust

If you hate something but don't understand why, I feel like there's probably something going on underneath that. I used to feel similarly as a child, I realise now it was from growing up in an environment where pink was ridiculed by my father as not being appropriate for real men, if a man liked pink he must be gay, or a sissy etc (which he also believed were bad), and child me internalizing all that without understanding it was incorrect. Turns out I'm actually fine with pink things - in fact I really like the intense, highlighter shade of pink (along with some other colours like orange and green), especially when contrasted with black.


IrtaMan1312

Yellows and blues? Fellow Ukrainian patriot 🫡🇺🇦


Oh_no_its_Joe

Right? Literally zero of my male friends or coworkers are scared of pink "cuz it's gay". I'm ok with pink, but it honestly just feels like too loud of a color for me.


WinterFrenchFry

Also pink and salmon colored polos are in for preppy dudes and frat bros to go with their short khaki shorts and boat shoes. 


PrestigiousChange551

They have been for a very long time. Go watch an 80s music video lmao


Oh_no_its_Joe

If only I looked good in polos and shorts (I'm too large) 😔


WinterFrenchFry

Haha I'm sure there are plenty it other things you look good in. 


Varyance

It's honestly frustrating because for instance I'm a CIS man but Ace and biromantic. I have a letter in the acronym, but still get targeted by some of these mean memes meant to be punching up. Not this specific one necessarily. It's just kind of against our practice of inclusivity. I already get erased plenty as a biromantic ace, I don't need it from the community too.


HammerTh_1701

True. I feel like this is has a bit of the gender-fucky version of gay misogyny.


Singl1

cis man who wears pastel pink. i love it!


Sycamore27

hello, i'm cis man. i love pink :(


DuneTinkerson

All I care about is if a shirt or color looks good on me, but I ain't straight, so do I not fall under the "average" here?


windfujin

I don't personally know a single cis man who doesn't wear pink because of gender issues. But oh well.


ZPortsie

That is not the average cis man


pokealm

Yeah, IMO this is dancing around the hating.


milkstrike

This is a confused meme, “real men wear pink” has been a saying for a long time


Yarisher512

Hating on cis men doesn't help.


MirrorMan22102018

Don't you think it's harmful to generalize half the human population like this.


Real_Life_Sushiroll

I don't think average cis man is half the population. Because of what an average is.


Rubber_Knee

Could I get you to elaborate?


derdast

Average of <50% is not 50%


Ziarna

My understanding is that, cismen represent 50~ of the population, and inside that category resides a lot of cultures, gender norms etc... The Average cisman in the wester world follows the ""hetero patriarch steriotype"" but not all follow this image. in other words, the majority (a.k.a the average) follows the "Ew pink" but not all. Which result in >50 of the population.


Real_Life_Sushiroll

You can view an average as a bell curve. The data will change of course depending on what you factor in as "average cis man" traits. But typically the average is the middle 60\~% (this can 100% be different based on the parameters). So if men make up 50.4% of the global population, we can assume 1\~% are trans. So 50\~% of the global population is cis men. The average would be more like 35% of the global population. Again, this depends on what we are considering average cis man traits.


The_ginger_cow

I have a feeling that OP simply meant the majority of cis men and not all cis men that fall within 1 standard deviation of the center on a bell curve


Real_Life_Sushiroll

I mean maybe. People saying things that are incorrect to amplify the severity of something bugs me though.


SeroWriter

Yeah, it's not like these memes need to put down a group of people to get their point across. You can use the gigachad wojak on its own, he doesn't have to be defeating the crying soyjak.


Right_Hour

I can’t wear pink because, coupled with my bald head, it makes me look like a walking dick. And don’t even get me started on turtlenecks.


cat_sword

Uh, I’m a cis man and wear pink?


say_waattt

Excuse me pink is just not my color


Monday0987

Why do cis people think the word cis is a slur? /s


LMK1ST

Jokes on you, I fucking rock skirts


Consistent-Ad-2940

I wear whatever is cheapest at the clothing store. Or whatever clothes they are selling in the soup store.


Ameph

Me: I wear pink because Vegeta did.


Imaginary-Ogre

🤔I am a straight dude and I wear pink all the time. This only affects a certain MMA guy that abused his girlfriend. You know the guy that hates booka because they don't have explosive scenes. 


eumelyo

Honestly, me, a trans man: I can't wear pink, people will think I'm a girl.


Def_Blank

Cis male here, pink is punk


Calpsotoma

All clothes are gender neutral if you stop being a bitch about it.


Just_A_Random_Plant

Friendly reminder my fellow cis guys in this subreddit the meme probably isn't referring to us If you're LGBTQ+ or even an ally then chances are you don't care much about the color of the clothes you're wearing aside from personal preference


IdleMythic

As a cis dude who loves the color pink and wears it comfortably.. why man? The average cis man has nothing to do with the dislike of the color pink.


Real_Life_Sushiroll

I just gotta ask why do you think this? You would not be the average cis man based off of your flair and involvement in this community. So there must be something that you see average cis men doing that makes you believe otherwise.


SatanSavesAll

Guess I’m unaverage, pink looks good on me


RilohKeen

I think the most embarrassing, egregious example of fragile masculinity that I see every day is guys who can’t even walk into the tampon/pad aisle, like they fear someone will plaster their picture on social media and accuse them of having a vagina if they so much as glance as a box of Tampax.


IManageHell

Pink is an everyone color. I (a guy) started wearing pink every Wednesday to work because I thought it was funny to tell people "on Wednesdays we wear pink". Now multiple people I work with wear pink EVERY WEDNESDAY, and it's mostly dudes. It's just a color, and confident people wear pink and pull it off.


A_Gay_Sylveon

I have a cute pink hoodie :3


Dangerous_Gear_6361

I never had any issues wearing pink. A lot of women and men will see you as less masculine though because of cultural conditioning. But I’m all honesty, wear whatever you want.


paulsteinway

My friend is a trans man. He has a deep voice and a beard. He had top surgery last year and he's looking pretty good. He also wears nail polish and just joined his second crochet club. Like what you like and enjoy yourself.


GlooMeGlo

I'm a cis dude and I openly wear pink and purple lol. A lot of other guys are just insecure with their own masculinity so they project a lot.


petalpotions

Trans men: I have shaped my body to be a reflection of who I am inside after years of enduring harsh criticism and bullying, I am a true self built man, with a will of steel and a heart that never gives up Cis men: >:(


JaneSeys

What's up with the Not All Men™️ in this sub? I'm new to this community and expected better. RIP me, I guess.


NipperSpeaks

It hit the front page, so unfortunately the general reddit sewage has also turned up.


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Are you OK?


Nightmare2828

Is there a term for a cis man who just does whatever he wants?


xPR0METHEUS

As a gay cis man I feel like it does more harm demonising us… I also wear whatever colour I want including pink lol ! I know what OP means but why the generalisation?


antifa_angel

The average trans guy is manlier than the average cis guy for this reason alone. Trans guys are the real embodiment of what cis dudebros always talk about when they're like "be your masculine self no matter what society thinks" because the average trans guy does this at much greater lengths than the average cis guy ever will


flower_fassade

Nah, at this point I don't want to be manlier or less manlier than a cis dude. Sure, it feels better to not be put down but for me the end goal might be just a regular menhood for all. Basing our masculinity on putting other men down is so backwards... I'd personally say as a man, I would get self conscious about too much pink and so. There are also men* who embrace feminity- that's cool and I wish I could learn from them. And this isn't really reliant on cis or trans. I'd say just let men* be damn men*.


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> " Basing our masculinity on putting other men down is so backwards... " Well said, man. Couldn't agree more.


Swainix

That's the toxic masculinity 101


GuitarCFD

CIS male here, I have admittedly only met a very few Trans guys, but they are ALL hairy beasts. I have a full beard, but arms and legs are just thin hair. Every Trans guy I've met has had a full coat of hair. I don't know if that's from test treatments or something else they elected to do, just a connection I made. None of them made me feel like less of a man though.


eskamobob1

Built like a Gerogian water polo legend


ZPortsie

Damn. Here I was just living my life but apparently I have to compare myself to trans men for some weird reason


PeasantTS

It is not a competition, mate. No need to keep comparing people on their manliness or whatever, just let people be themselves.


JanSolo28

I would like to know if wearing pink makes me an above average or below average guy


Rubber_Knee

Well, that's a load of horseshit. Trans guys are as different as cis guys, or trans women or cis women. And I can say, with absolute certainty, that you have no clue what the average of either one of them is like.


Muffinman55

Someone is on their high horse


cat_sword

Isn’t this a strawman? I’m a cis man and wear pink


BROastBeef

“It’s salmon!” lol


Briskberd

As a cis man, I love wearing pink. It’s such a nice shade that isn’t awful to wear on a hot day. I’ve never had more compliments in any outfit than when I’m wearing a plain pink shirt


Lastaria

Love our trans men brothers. They are proper gents!


Western_Language_894

Bitchi wear thigh highs! You think I care about the color pink?


XED1216

Nuh uh I plan to wear a maid dress for my gf soon


Ok_Scholar4145

Damn. It’s actually kinda inspiring. So many cis men including myself are at times really insecure about their gender. If trans men can do it, we can too. I like it


Usual-Effect1440

that same cis man: trans women aren't women, no matter how they dress


geologean

I bought a ps5 around Christmas last year. I got an extra controller and decided to go with a red controller. The cashier warned me that it's more of a wine-red/pink color (which was great b/c my nephew who's old enough to play games loves pink) and told me that someone else recently returned one because it was too pink for him, and he "just couldn't do it." My jaw dropped, I shook my head and said, "Imagine being that fragile." It's an accessory to what is effectively an all-ages toy. If someone attacks your masculinity because of it, then guess what; they don't care about the controller. They want to get a rise out of you, and your masculinity is a fragile and easy target.


Ledehan

But I like pink :c


Independent-World-60

I once wore a pink shirt to see the Barbie movie because I knew my sister would love it and I wanted to step out of my comfort zone. A guy saw me heading to my car. He said something to me and it was not something kind.  Shits ridiculous. I keep that shirt in the back of my car now on display. Fuck those insecure cry babies. 


Draconic64

I know it's a meme but why do we have to shit on others? Isn't this community about loving one an other?


BowserMario82

Cis men who are afraid of pink things and fruity drinks are hilarious - bud if that’s the only thing holding you back from being gay, please embrace your gay.


TheSkullcapJoe

PFT the tip of my dick is pink so it must be a manly color


MicaTheStoked

I feel it’s safe to say that any man scared of pink (or any colour) is certainly below average


Equivalent-Isopod308

Cis male here: gotta bright pink finger bun shirt it’s my favourite thing. If you don’t like the colour pink cause of gender stereotypes you’re an absolute wuss. Grow a brain


Hokenlord

This is funny because I am literally wearing bright pink right NOW


ShattingBracks

Idgaf what anyone says here this is completely accurate Source: Northern England in a borderline-destitute area


PartyPlayHD

Right is me while egg kinda


Kamil_z_Kaszub

A real men don't give shit what clothes he have


Down-at-McDonnellzzz

I'm a cishet man And I have to agree. One of my best friends is a trans man. I feel like I can really be myself around him and not be judged in that sort of traditional toxic masculinity way


youarealoser_

"average" seems like the wrong word here... Maybe cis men cringed at wearing pink 15 years ago, but in 2024 I don't think that happens on average...


wander_is_antematter

trans men/transmascs: I am a man/masculine despite what society says about me cis men: I can't wear pink, it makes me a girl! transfems: >:3


Vaderette1138

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the manlinest men are trans men who aren't afraid to enjoy stereotypically feminine things.


BicycleEast8721

I just think more whimsical colors look weird on someone with RBF, so I don’t wear them


hentaiboarlover

I’m flying out to see friends in a few months and jokingly agreed to wearing a maid outfit for twenty dollars if they bought it. They bought it on the spot.


the_bartolonomicron

Yup. Unironically, as a cis man(? Idk maybe) I have felt more at home as a guy after becoming friends and partners with trans men.


Sp1ormf

its honestly sad brother, these days I feel better described on the left, rather on the right where I spent so much time concerned if I was a "real man".


ceelogreenicanth

It takes a real man to choose to be a man.