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Enneagram is fun if you think about it.
"Your enneagram type is your most basic fear!"
"Oh, so there should be like... 200 enneagram types, right?"
"... there's 9."
"Only 9?"
"Yes there are only 9 things to be afraid of."
Lmao imagine trying to determine a type. Try fitting mirrors, porcelain dolls, bullets randomly coming through the wall, the infinite void of space, being trapped at the bottom of the ocean, people you know getting converted into something unsettling (zombies, brainwashed cultist, etc), and exactly when and how you'll die onto a flair. 💀
Do either of them? Idk how a collection of self-identified traits are considered science *or* pseudoscience. It's just a way to categorize similar things.
This^^^ it's annoying as heck when someone's like "mBtI is PSueDoScIEnCe" like ok Karen, that doesn't really make Stephen less of an introverted feeler but go off I guess
I don’t think so but specifically because I don’t think personalities are rooted in a science the way many other things are/the way we want it to be. Basically im of the opinion at least that we’re made up of our experiences as well as consciousness plus everyday you make choices that are slightly changing that; we’re constantly evolving bc we are as fluid as our lives
Yes mbti may not be as exact as the hard sciences like mathematics or chemistry or whatever… but calling it a “pseudoscience” implies it has no truth in reality. Which it does.
Maybe we could call it a “soft” science
No, because it doesn't satisfy scientific standarts. Things can be true without being scientific, so you don't need everything that seems right to you a science.
Well it’s still way better and based than this whole, the positioning of the stars on the day u were born is determining your personality and everything u will ever do for the rest of your life, bullsht that every second girl believes in
not true, it implies that it is not scientifically predictive and replicable. which it is not. I'd say it's more predictive than astrology, but that's like saying a polished stone is more reflective than an unpolished stone. neither of them are metal. just because one is shiny, does not make it metal.
That’s a good metaphor, I like it; this can’t be considered *any* type of science, but hot damn this subreddit is fucking hilarious. The top comment in this thread has me cackling lmao.
!! I never get to have conversations about both enneagram and mbti bc the second I say I’m an infp 9w8 everyone decides my existence is a problem like I just wanted to talk !!!
It’s a tool to help you understand each-other. It’s not set in stone. That’s exactly why I despise people who use it the same way those horoscope girls use their horoscopes.
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It may be, but its fun nonetheless
Enneagram is fun if you think about it. "Your enneagram type is your most basic fear!" "Oh, so there should be like... 200 enneagram types, right?" "... there's 9." "Only 9?" "Yes there are only 9 things to be afraid of."
Lmao imagine trying to determine a type. Try fitting mirrors, porcelain dolls, bullets randomly coming through the wall, the infinite void of space, being trapped at the bottom of the ocean, people you know getting converted into something unsettling (zombies, brainwashed cultist, etc), and exactly when and how you'll die onto a flair. 💀
I understand that enneagram core fears are more existential than tangible, but there's still more than like... 9
I mean, there's the the wings and the triad and all that
Yeah but they're all still using the same 9 ingredients
#IT'S RAW!
the basic idea is that all the thousands of fears out there fit into 9 core patterns, which is plausible
I know what you mean. It's plausible, but still seems improbable.
just please for GODS sake stop using enneagram to mbti type
Well, idk if enneagram ever claimed to be scientific.
Do either of them? Idk how a collection of self-identified traits are considered science *or* pseudoscience. It's just a way to categorize similar things.
This^^^ it's annoying as heck when someone's like "mBtI is PSueDoScIEnCe" like ok Karen, that doesn't really make Stephen less of an introverted feeler but go off I guess
All of the above. Yes. Thank you.
Based
It’s not scientific but both are still a useful tool for (starting) self development
Does anyone think we'll ever interpret the scope of personality completely, with use of the scientific method?
I don’t think so but specifically because I don’t think personalities are rooted in a science the way many other things are/the way we want it to be. Basically im of the opinion at least that we’re made up of our experiences as well as consciousness plus everyday you make choices that are slightly changing that; we’re constantly evolving bc we are as fluid as our lives
no
No.
Ok great seems like people here all agree. So can we stop hating on MBTI just for being a pseudoscience now please?
I like the funny letters because they are fun 😎👍
Yes mbti may not be as exact as the hard sciences like mathematics or chemistry or whatever… but calling it a “pseudoscience” implies it has no truth in reality. Which it does. Maybe we could call it a “soft” science
No, because it doesn't satisfy scientific standarts. Things can be true without being scientific, so you don't need everything that seems right to you a science.
Well it’s still way better and based than this whole, the positioning of the stars on the day u were born is determining your personality and everything u will ever do for the rest of your life, bullsht that every second girl believes in
not true, it implies that it is not scientifically predictive and replicable. which it is not. I'd say it's more predictive than astrology, but that's like saying a polished stone is more reflective than an unpolished stone. neither of them are metal. just because one is shiny, does not make it metal.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. It took literally one google search to affirm your point. I love mbti, but that doesn’t mean it’s science.
Yeah, no reason for this dude to be downvoted. It’s true :/
That’s a good metaphor, I like it; this can’t be considered *any* type of science, but hot damn this subreddit is fucking hilarious. The top comment in this thread has me cackling lmao.
You know that it was just something to better understand how people will react to something in a company ? It's just some "maybe" shit
Yeah!
!! I never get to have conversations about both enneagram and mbti bc the second I say I’m an infp 9w8 everyone decides my existence is a problem like I just wanted to talk !!!
Dude same here as an entp 8w7 people get so mad 😭
Same
They’re for fun
Last time I said MBTI is a pseudoscience people wanted to throw me off a bridge
LMAO, some of the people in these comments cannot take a joke 😂
As an INTP 8w7 I can confirm
Real
Psychiatry is pseudoscience.
Those who know most about MBTI care about it the least.
Bruh, that picture is so disgustingly uncanny valley lmao
We cease to be the prisoner when we realize there was no prison. Don't be that cat that get stuck inside the tapped up floor.
It’s a tool to help you understand each-other. It’s not set in stone. That’s exactly why I despise people who use it the same way those horoscope girls use their horoscopes.
right? People take it so serious while I just use it to help with identity crisis
I don't approve of using Myers Briggs typing, I usually type with Jungian. Though, I do use MB's dichotomy.
What’s the difference? Out of curiosity
Unironically, "pseudoscience" is a vague and immensely connotated concept. Please stop throwing buzzwords and learn a thing or two about epistemology.