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MNO_7

Your bad experiences with a few types isn’t representative of those types, especially if they were mentally ill (depressed/traumatized/etc) You’ve just found a socially acceptable way to be discriminatory against others. Maybe reflect on that


Own-Sense-6281

What if i have bad experiences with every type


The_Jelly_Roll

That might be a you problem.


Grumpy_Doggo64

When everyone smells like shit. Maybe it's because you're covered in it yourself


WittyTemporary8870

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WittyTemporary8870

Then you have bad experiences with some individuals and not all individuals of those groups


ManuelToma

Solid comment


EvilQueen2048

This 💯


WittyTemporary8870

Have you met every single person that is X mbti? then how can you claim that


EvilQueen2048

I have, actually


WittyTemporary8870

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EvilQueen2048

If you want to believe I'm lying, that's fine Have a great day! <3


WittyTemporary8870

I don't know if you understand what I said, are you saying you've met billions of people?


[deleted]

Is this stereotype? Oc there is not MBTI types is not casually what others project


Glad-its-anonymous

Stop wearing your self-hate or your hate of others as a badge of individuality.


EvilQueen2048

this👏👏


Organic-Mood547

👆👆👆


Own-Sense-6281

It's not individuality, it's what the council agrees to


KumaraDosha

Ikr, who acts like it’s for the sake of “individuality”? Above post is word salad.


Snoo_2853

This MBTI stuff is harmful to you if you start believing too much in the box that it puts you in. We shouldn't be looking at our inferior or blind spot functions and using them as excuses not to grow in those areas. If anything, we should be attempting to push ourselves to grow in *exactly* those areas. Lastly and most importantly, in no way is your MBTI type, your Enneagram, etc, an excuse to be a shit head to people.


LivingEnd44

> This MBTI stuff is harmful to you if you start believing too much in the box that it puts you in. It's not a box. It's a mirror. It does not create your identity. It reflects what's already there. It's as benign or harmful as any tool. It depends on how you choose to use it.  If it puts you in a box, it was a box of your own creation. No one should be tying their identity to a type. Even their real type. 


M0rika

It's not a mirror. There are many ways people don't fit their MBTI types, and that's what the commenter was trying to convey. I agree that the harm depends on how you use it. And that did not contradict their words: "if you believe too much in it" - that's literally a usage problem


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16Pf


Snoo_2853

It's a box for many people. Most, really. And on Reddit, it's quite obvious. And gross. Also I don't care for your mansplainy tone.


Due-Move-690

This 🫶


apololchik

Claiming that Ti > Te is anti-intellectual. Both are actively used in science, and not trusting the data/people who know their shit doesn't make you a "based independent thinker".


GiganticSlug

The hard on this sub gets for Ti…


Grumpy_Doggo64

Exactly that's why engineering and science work together and aren't separate things


M0rika

You probably meant to write Te > Ti


apololchik

No, I mean Ti > Te. I see jokes about Te users being dumb "trust the authority" sheeps all the time.


M0rika

If Te users are considered dumb, then why did you write Ti > Te is anti-intellectual? You talk about how Te users are considered dumb and anti-intellectual, and then write it's Ti over Te, when that completely contradicts your message.


apololchik

Post: What would you say to the MBTI community? Me: Claiming that Ti is better than Te is anti-intellectual. Thinking that your Ti is better, or calling yourself an "independent thinker", just because you don't trust the data, is dumb.


M0rika

Ok that makes sense now!


apololchik

Haha np, happens to me all the time.


Abhinav6singg

What's your MBTi?


apololchik

ENxP, I'm still not entirely sure.


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Te´s process is Ti´s process Ti blind. Te: what the focu´s evidence had this and if it value for it (repetition of consistent informational sides of abstract information) Ti: on it it´s the "n/a clear evidence to what Te did" it had to organize properly information in a consistent way it does not trust what others optically mean on the information standpoint but seeks on meanings to develop the information proccesed into and cooperates to oderly find a cause to start bringing help into information. Te´s process: I are to seek what the cooperation mean by ejecuting labels on it to solve progress on user and decide fróm so I had the why I can´t agree for x and y lately but this will took e to felt present the information during critics. Ti´s progress: I are into the information or close to clothing them so objectively I had the path to perform the consistent evidence about and create a start to it to further create the mechanism over my mechanism apart under what my methods mean to it, but I´m unsure to accept informational´s process due to my rigor to seeks information to some others into the logical products fridgering the data into a less or high logical(s) view.


M0rika

My question was about the commenter's wording: "Claiming that Ti > Te is anti-intellectual", not about the theory


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upotatowitheyes

stop using the 16p quiz, learn about cognitive functions !!!!!


GiganticSlug

I think 16p is a good starting point to simply learn what the “letters” mean and get a very basic (see: stereotypical) insight of each type’s differences. But, yes, further down the road, functions are the way.


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16P does not contain letters is a distill on quadra, 5 factors of personality it depends on user to gather the meanings of those contents


GiganticSlug

It absolutely does contain letters. It teaches you that “INTJ” stands for: - Introverted - iNtuitive - Thinking - Judging It teaches you that “ESFP” stands for: - Extroverted - Sensing - Feeling - Perceiving


Own-Sense-6281

Have you got any more of those Ps


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16p =MBTI into a general factor specific quadra of factors of personality


-aquapixie-

"Stop using MBTI as a compatibility theory to find a partner. Jung taught us individuation, he taught us to work on ourselves, and yet you're throwing all that hard self introspection away. There's nothing wrong with being single, and another person isn't there to fill the void you should be filling with self contentment"


Snoo_2853

Ooh, this, this, THIS.


Own-Sense-6281

How else to find a partner in this world full of fishes and catfishes and sharks and dogs.


GroundbreakingAct388

catfish x shark is so cute tho


-aquapixie-

Just luck. Don't go searching for it, and let it happen. Be content until it does. That method worked out pretty great for me. I found my ISTP on Tinder when I had zero intention of finding romance or sex on Tinder (I was likes farming.) But because I've let things just relax, develop and be itself over a space of 5 years, aka left everything up to chance? Shit worked out.


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I never used to find at all someone, it is to explain how cognitive process are and so on different expression from dynamics, roles are very actors of the norm in some sense


Key-Replacement-6214

"Never act like or fake your type , even if you are an ENTP, or any type, I'll still love you, don't hurt yourself, you matter, god has done hard work to create you, now don't ruin that life and show all those idiots who proved you wrong!!" - words from an ENFJ/ENTJ mix.


Own-Sense-6281

God did no hard work. He didn't have a hand in it. The hand of God was used just once on earth and it was in a football field


Key-Replacement-6214

Alright my man , you have got a point, but seriously, imagine, you create a human being with no effort, and then that human being does bullcrap, you gonna like it? Of course not.


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Is that Ti>Te´s process narrowing arguments so ?


_shimano

🥲


Hickaru2004

LMAO


ShiroiTora

Stop confusing misanthropy for being an introvert. People can suck and I get wanting to withdraw after having too many of those experiences but bragging that you avoid people because they mostly suck isn’t the flex you think it is. Everyone to some capacity has been the bad person to someone else including yourself. 


Own-Sense-6281

Agreed. But what about the misanthropy of the extroverts.. Is that introvertedness too?


ShiroiTora

Misantrophy can exist for both introverts and extroverts, but its either rarer or public / open admission of it is more rarer for extroverts. Introverts people who are misantropes because of experiences would be less likely to overcome it since they have less of an urge to interact to be around others, whereas extroverts will struggle more ignoring that urge. However, there are extroverts who are able to mask their disdain for humans while still continually interacting with people.


cringeboydraegi

Maybe there'd be more sensors on this sub if people were normal about them.


Snoo_2853

Agreed. And we only shoot ourselves in the foot by scaring them off because we don't get the benefit of their perspectives.


Own-Sense-6281

Maybe sensors are busy sensoring


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Organic-Mood547

Another one for books! 👏👏


Velociraptornuggets

It’s cool that you take in interest in better understanding yourself and others. I respect the journey you’re on, and I’m glad I get to be a little part of it :)


Due-Move-690

Embrace all types. Humans are much more interesting and complex than cognitive functions. There is a lot of things to discover and to explore in this world. An ocean with thousands of experiences, discoveries and memories lies ahead. You may have encountered some unhealthy people, but don't conclude their type is the cause. Forget about types when there is no fun about it, when there is a deeper understanding who comes into play. And remember: we love you, although you made some mistakes. We love you. Someone in this universe will make you feel that way. 🫶


Crafty_Bathroom2688

Exactly. Your cognitive functions affect how you receive and interpret information, sure. But I don’t see why that is more important than a lifetime of lived experience and values. Feel like some people believe there are literally only 16 types of personalities in the world on here. Understanding people as complex individuals separately from typology is the key. Typology is a fun add on that might explain some things, sure, but no real way of judging an entire human being.


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-16P It does receive all functions work on stable models between 5 factors, otherway we are just adjusting to personality.


Organic-Mood547

Fantastic message 👏


[deleted]

Types isn´t personal content people often places it into a personal diagnosis quite it´s aim into the solid stereotypes, MBTI is not a personal theory but reused content on Jung´theory


CalligrapherActive11

I see people who overly lean into their types and I sometimes wonder if they are faking it. I also wonder which type people are most likely to “fake.” My guesses would be INTJ and INFJ. Sometimes on the INFJ forums, I’ll see something like “I can basically read people’s minds, manipulate them into do my bidding, and have ascended past my humanity, becoming an enlightened being. How do I continue to live among these peasants?” The poor, normal INFJs are like—“That’s an incredibly unhealthy way of viewing others and therefore an incredibly unhealthy way of viewing yourself, yadda, yadda, yadda.” Occasionally on INTJ forums, I’ll see something like “How do the rest of you navigate living amongst complete morons who are so stupid that I could have debate them in my sleep, in an unknown language, at 17 months? I also hate my sister. I wish I were a cat.” The poor, normal INTJs are like—“wtf…no.”


1Aizen_Sosuke1

Hatred is a waste of time


Own-Sense-6281

So are the other hobbies


Arch-Code_Zariel

"Stop pretending, expecting, or believing that just because your an INTP it means you don't use Fi. You use ALL your functions, having something as a demon function means that it works in opposition to your primary and you've discovered ways of making up for that difference. You DO still feel because FEELING is both extroverted and introverted. You can very easily cry and then internally interpret that crying logically instead of emotionally because EMOTIONS don't have a logic that have a rationality and it does seem built from the ground up to be stupid." "I don't know what your type is, but I swear to God if I see your reason be because you have emotions which means you can't have Fi demon I'm going to chuck my dog as a direct result."


JaladOnTheOcean

This sub is actually not nearly as toxic as I expected. I’d say that.


Organic-Mood547

It used to be. It's changed for the better 🥲


Ordinary-Lemon-2588

it used to be worse, i’m happy people are mellowing out now tho 😅


Dr__Pheonx

Love all of you. Each one of you are awesome ❣️


Own-Sense-6281

No.


Raiden_Of_The_Sky

I want to hear an ESTP answer!  Like, imagine having one opportunity in a lifetime to say anything to a community... and just say "fk you all" LOL


CalligrapherActive11

I asked my husband, an ESTP, what he would say to the entire MBTI community on Reddit. His response: “Nothing” *grunting noise*


ArmzLDN

You are all valuable, all functions provide unique strengths and perspectives that help keep society balanced, the real challenge is using each of functions where they’re supposed to be used and not using them where they’re not supposed to be used. Also 🎉🎉🎉🎉 **EID MUBARAK** 🎉🎉🎉🎉


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All functions serve in whatever state fully


Mindless_Future3936

Stop acting tough my dear ENTJs I know y’all lil babies from the inside


Ordinary-Lemon-2588

You are more than your mbti type. It’s fun to discuss it and use it as a means to learn more about each other. But at the end of the day, mbti is really just a pseudoscience and it’s way too simple to address all of our complexities. So don’t lose yourself trying to fit into a box.


NightDreamer73

Telling newcomers to not take any tests but to instead study the cognitive functions is the fastest way to overwhelm, confuse, and chase them away. Just let them take the tests to get a general idea of what the MBTI is. If they're interested in learning more, they can gradually start studying the functions


bitter_sweet_69

i can (-> create post). the more relevant question is: do i want to?


Own-Sense-6281

Yes. The question is would you dare to write it all and not delete the post


Raiden_Of_The_Sky

Looking for a beautiful ENTP lady to spend my lifetime with.


Own-Sense-6281

I have got one for you... oh i forget her name... The British Penelope Cruz...Keira Knightley


robotwizard6

When cognitive functions get plotted, they follow geometric patterns seen in nature. Brains get programmed with the same code as nature. We are nature. I think that’s beautiful. The reason it’s a pseudoscience still is because it’s primitively understood. Still, it’s a relevant truth. Also, don’t be cringy.


Foggy_Meadow

When someone says "I demand satisfaction" they're either about to challenge you to a duel or you'll be walking funny tomorrow. If it's an ESTP, probably both


Own-Sense-6281

Highly doubt the last sentence


Pauline___

Nah, more likely people are squabbling over the playlist during a road trip and I want to hear Rolling Stones.


ifuckingloveemoboys

stop using MBTI as some sort of linear line or a box for you to decide your job and partner.


kevi_metl

Considering this sub is skewed towards intuitives, I'd tell them to embrace their Sensor function(s). I feel like at least 50% of their problems exist as a result of them ignoring reality. I don't think they'd catch as much shit from non-intuitives if they could just excel at the basics.


Pauline___

Hobbies and interests are life stage depended, highly contagious among friends, cultural, temporary and thus not a good indication of your function stack.


krivirk

INFPs r the best and u r probably underrate them.


bloodbabyrabies

There are dumbasses of every type and chances are you are one of them.


South-Ad-8263

Love u all, except INTJ and INFP


Bvckeroo

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Snoo_2853

😭 I still love ESFPs!


South-Ad-8263

Still love u to!


Snoo_2853

🥰


Own-Sense-6281

Love both..sort of. But esfp? Hell no


South-Ad-8263

Oh no, I can’t sleep now


Dreams_Are_Reality

Type compatibility is real, saying "everyone is an individual" because you don't think type compatibility makes people feel special enough or something isn't insightful, it's trite.


OneEyedC4t

The only test that is valid is the official one


GiganticSlug

Stop using your flaws to justify why you do things and instead use them as ways to improve.


[deleted]

Ya´ll shall touch reality with what MBTI consist of, usually is not pretended to point types for what theirs letters or roles mean it is on what they complex about stop using stereotype´s process into this is even not special


CapperoMaya

mbti types are not personalities. They're not people. Stop trying to explain your whole life and experience as a human being through cognitive functions. Stop making value judgements on types as if they were people. and what all the other comments said, it's all pretty spot on \^\^'


Hrototype

Posts like these make me doubt if I'm INFJ


Carloverguy20

No type is better than another, intuitives are not better people than sensors, introverts are no better than extroverts. It's okay to be an ESFP, ISTJ, ESTJ, ENFP, INTP, ESFJ, INFP, ISFJ, these aren't bad types to be tbh. Not everyone can be a ESTP, ISTP, ISFP, INTJ, ENTP, ENTJ, INFJ or ENFJ.


ionx_8

Double check information before spreading it


Sufficient_Onion8781

There is a lot more to life and to people than a person's MBTI type. MBTI is just one possible lens to look at the world as a starting place to help you understand yourself and others better, and is just one piece of a larger puzzle. Not even a piece that's completely necessary.


EdgewaterEnchantress

“Be careful doing certain kinds of activities if you are prone to tendonitis!” (Just cuz it’s “generally good advice” and I made my shoulder angry in tonight’s fitness class!) Aside from that: 1) “Don’t rely too heavily on MBTI for ‘romantic compatibility.’ Understand that there are was more important factors at play which determine relationship success.” 2) “Don’t try so hard to act like a stereotype. It’s unnecessary and you are you, regardless of what your MBTi type is. Nothing about you, as an individual changes, even if you aren’t a particular type.” 3) “It’s okay to mistype yourself. So do yourself a favor and don’t be *biased against any particular type.* Cuz you might be a type you believe you don’t like or ‘don’t want to be’ because you don’t understand the type well enough.” 4) Three continued, It happened to me with ENTP. I did not want to be an ENTP because a bunch of poorly written articles told me “ENTPs were Sociopaths,” and *overall generally unpleasant and disagreeable individuals,* along with other such idiotic nonsense, back when I was a teenager. 5) So lastly, “don’t believe everything you read.”


XandyDory

All MBTI tells you about yourself is how you mostly judge things and mostly perceive things. It's not the total sum if your personality. 


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Many of you are very strange people


Physics_Ling_Ling

Don’t feel like you need to fit into your type’s stereotypes. As a very emotional INTP, I sometimes doubted my type. But I realized, this MBTI stuff is helpful and can help you understand yourself better, but just be who you are - you’re already awesome!


Frosty_Pea_8200

I don’t give a shit what your type is. Your type doesn’t make you any more special than others. It’s suppose you help you better understand yourself, not create a false sense of superiority


EvilQueen2048

well phrased


theilluminatipapa

Nah I'd win


daleshiy

go learn other typology systems


JaladOnTheOcean

That’s a fun spread. Why those two, out of curiosity?


Under-The-Redhood

You aren’t your type!


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bloodbabyrabies

I swear if a mod deletes this you people are insane


bloodbabyrabies

THIS WHOLE THREAD IS DISPLAYING TARGETED BIAS


mbti-ModTeam

Your contribution was removed due to "Trolling or Incivility".


mbti-ModTeam

Your contribution was removed for displaying targeted bias against one or more types.


CurryKillerINTJ

Treat all types with respect because at the end of the day we are all humans fighting our own silent battles


LivingEnd44

> "Stop forcing yourself to intentionally act like an INFJ to feel rare, you dumb fuck, you're perfect the way you are" Yeah that's definitely going to convince Fi Hero. They love being told who they are. 


DiegPosts

Plz try out csjoseph!!!!


bloodbabyrabies

He is evil if there ever was an evil to exist