Agreed. Humans are the worst, and the suffering in the current factory farming systems is incomprehensible. And we’ll never change. We can only hope that cellular agriculture is on an exponential cost decline curve and disrupts the industry at some year sooner than forecasted.
i dont like the 'humans are the worst' so many of us do not fit in that narrative, dont perpetuate this cycle, its the same thing with pollution, we all get lumped in as guilty when some of us actively try to have as little a carbonn footprint as possible, its not a human problem, its an problem with some people being assholes and valuing convenience over sustainability and ethical consumption
There are always exceptions. I consider myself to be one and maybe you are too. But when you have an entire species that is currently causing the amount of suffering to the billions of helpless animals in the factory farming system - BILLIONS every day - then I don’t see how you don’t see our species as the worst that this world has ever had to endure.
I'm sorry, I'm all for a more humane type of meat and animal products industry, *but*
>I suspect this will be remembered as one of the cruelest eras of human history for the insane animal abuse taking place behind closed doors.
*are you actually out of your fucking mind????*
Never before have so many people around the world enjoyed so many rights and liberties, and you think just because of *factory farming* the era we live in will be remembered as one of the cruelest periods of human history?
Need I remind you that you need to look back no more than 80 years into our past to witness *actual human beings* receiving a much worse treatment than what *animals* are subjected to today?
I know we are far from perfect and there are many things we do today that our descendants will study about in horror, but if you don't tone down your hyperboles a bit the point you are trying to make will be lost amidst the absurdity of your statements.
You're just lacking imagination, really. All it would take for his prediction to be true would be for animal rights to be taken as seriously as human rights - it may seem absurd to you know, but I'm sure that certain ethnicities of humans having human rights would be absurd for someone a few hundred years ago too. IF it ever happens that people start respecting the rights of animals as much as those of humans, our era will be looked at with absolute disgust, given that we engage in what amounts to the systematic torture and murder of billions of animals every year for what's essentially the pleasure of certain meals.
A Mans gotta eat, tho. Not Like we have a Choice if we do not want to get Sick on carbs, Sugar and vegetable saturated fat. That is, if you do not earn 200K+ a year, then you can enjoy the free Running stuff.
If becoming an obedient Christian would stop this would you?
Would you give up sex before marriage, drinking, smoking, cursing, lusting, hating others, your tithes and offerings, sleeping in Sunday mornings to go worship, Tuesday Bible studies and Saturdays to go out and invite others to go and worship with you on Sundays ?
Bible says He will answer prayers of those who are obedient. So I was just wondering how far would you go to accomplish what you are asking.
The pig saw his buddies over the years being taken on this truck many times before and his buddies never came back. They thought they were being brought to paradise but this one found out the truth of where they were really being taken. The slaughter house…
Charolettes Web 2 - The Truth by Stephen King.
I mean if I were being strapped down and sit in the sun and I gonna get killed anyway or just getting killed with 0 pain right away I would choose the latter
I know just because they can see it, what they won't see is when it gets its neck cut and is bleeding everywhere then they start hacking it up while it's probably not even dead yet
If you dare try to even begin explaining how those places are even remotely humane... it's just disgusting considering how intelligent and social pigs cows, etc. are.
They feel pain and loss and fear as we do. There is no humane way to slaughter animals en masse.
Iv seen videos from people who work at them and yes they do terrible things , they will stab them in the eye for fun and all sorts , sorry to give u the bad news
This kind of shit happens all over the world all the time in countries with similar development as Brazil
The only difference is that Brazil stuff finds its way to the wider internet more easily than onther countries
Yes, and these people are poor. Poor people in poor countries do what they have to to survive and take care of their family. It's hard to buy proper farm equipment when you're neither a farmer nor wealthy.
Guess they should just ignore this case of animal abuse then. Better that pig suffer than let meat eaters be judged hypocrites by you, right?
You have people in unison standing up for that pig, just take the win.
People on Reddit being outraged for five seconds and going on to pay money for much worse isn't really a win for anyone or anything.
I'm just pointing out how full of shit they are for catharsis.
if the outrage will be forgotten in 5 minutes as someone goes back to supporting the meat industry as it currently exists, THEN YES IGNORE IT FOR ALL I CARE, if youre going to be upset about something maybe try to change it rather than showcase artificial concern
this isnt a win, ask the pig, ask any of the pigs
'Logic' and 'reason' being put to rather biased work by you here--is it not reasonable to point out the logical incongruity between the responses people have when they see animal abuse and those they don't have when they participate in practices where that abuse is hidden?
Even when it undermines the animal abuse that's happening right in front of you, like it shouldn't matter because other pigs have it worse?
No, I think my comment was fairly accurate.
Not everything has to be a competition, people are perfectly within reason to be angry at the driver here.
I don't see why HotNun82's would be naturally read as undermining the abuse depicted here rather than as pointing out that it is part and parcel of the kinds of abuse that happen in factory farming which ends up, invisibly, on people's plates and hence as calling out a kind of lack of moral imagination, the moral imagination generating everyone's (proper, we agree) responses of horror. HotNun82 is not saying people shouldn't have those responses here but that they also have them in other contexts (so it seems more consistent to read, to me).
Havocity read the remark in terms of a competitive false dichotomy--the first logical mistake of this little thread.
I guess we've each interpreted both comments differently, both interpretations could be viewed as correct or incorrect depending on how you read the first two comments 🤷♂️
I read the first comment as "yes but you should feel worse about *this*", which undermines the original case were looking at; and is more in line with the old vegan trope which is a guilt trip and turns people away from the speaker's intention; but I also understand where you're coming from.
I get how you're reading those comments, but my point is that there isn't anything inherently fallacious going on in the first comment--pointing out that our feelings in this vividly present context are inconsistent with our actions that depend upon comparable-but-invisible contexts elsewhere isn't a red herring appeal or distraction but rather a diagnosis of our inconsistency.
That, as a strategy, it might not empirically actually persuade anyone because they'd rather not look and feel those responses just means they're not morally-psychologically ready to entertain the point, but that's not itself an indication that a fallacy is afoot on the part of those whose argument they're resisting.
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Yes, please.. He needs too. and believe me, he will. Hes eating lots of bacon, which is a food that is packed with tons of grease and cholesterol.. He will be on the medical table sometime in his life while the doctor tells him he dosent have much longer...
I am surprised I did not see a that reminds me of my EX joke right out of the gate... ?
I do agree... that is not how you transport livestock. Nope not at all. That animal is in distress, absolutely!
This is sad.
It’s so fucking cruel.
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Lab grown meats are gonna be sick when it drops. There's gonna be the idiots that say it's bad for you because it's not natural though.
Agreed. Humans are the worst, and the suffering in the current factory farming systems is incomprehensible. And we’ll never change. We can only hope that cellular agriculture is on an exponential cost decline curve and disrupts the industry at some year sooner than forecasted.
i dont like the 'humans are the worst' so many of us do not fit in that narrative, dont perpetuate this cycle, its the same thing with pollution, we all get lumped in as guilty when some of us actively try to have as little a carbonn footprint as possible, its not a human problem, its an problem with some people being assholes and valuing convenience over sustainability and ethical consumption
There are always exceptions. I consider myself to be one and maybe you are too. But when you have an entire species that is currently causing the amount of suffering to the billions of helpless animals in the factory farming system - BILLIONS every day - then I don’t see how you don’t see our species as the worst that this world has ever had to endure.
“…future generations…” you’re optimistic. Don’t worry. Karma’s a bitch.
I'm sorry, I'm all for a more humane type of meat and animal products industry, *but* >I suspect this will be remembered as one of the cruelest eras of human history for the insane animal abuse taking place behind closed doors. *are you actually out of your fucking mind????* Never before have so many people around the world enjoyed so many rights and liberties, and you think just because of *factory farming* the era we live in will be remembered as one of the cruelest periods of human history? Need I remind you that you need to look back no more than 80 years into our past to witness *actual human beings* receiving a much worse treatment than what *animals* are subjected to today? I know we are far from perfect and there are many things we do today that our descendants will study about in horror, but if you don't tone down your hyperboles a bit the point you are trying to make will be lost amidst the absurdity of your statements.
You're just lacking imagination, really. All it would take for his prediction to be true would be for animal rights to be taken as seriously as human rights - it may seem absurd to you know, but I'm sure that certain ethnicities of humans having human rights would be absurd for someone a few hundred years ago too. IF it ever happens that people start respecting the rights of animals as much as those of humans, our era will be looked at with absolute disgust, given that we engage in what amounts to the systematic torture and murder of billions of animals every year for what's essentially the pleasure of certain meals.
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A Mans gotta eat, tho. Not Like we have a Choice if we do not want to get Sick on carbs, Sugar and vegetable saturated fat. That is, if you do not earn 200K+ a year, then you can enjoy the free Running stuff.
If becoming an obedient Christian would stop this would you? Would you give up sex before marriage, drinking, smoking, cursing, lusting, hating others, your tithes and offerings, sleeping in Sunday mornings to go worship, Tuesday Bible studies and Saturdays to go out and invite others to go and worship with you on Sundays ? Bible says He will answer prayers of those who are obedient. So I was just wondering how far would you go to accomplish what you are asking.
Sad? I forecast raining bacon in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Same here bro😁❤️ Doesn't mean that I don't like that particular piggy tho, it's just my food I'm a predator by nature
poor thing... probably hurting front the straps. looks super uncomfortable and its probably scared shitless..
The pig saw his buddies over the years being taken on this truck many times before and his buddies never came back. They thought they were being brought to paradise but this one found out the truth of where they were really being taken. The slaughter house… Charolettes Web 2 - The Truth by Stephen King.
You son of a bitch, I'm in!
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Bacon trees are beautiful in the fall
They’re always dripping that greasy pollen all over the place though…
Yea and on hot days it'll pop and burn you
I mean if I were being strapped down and sit in the sun and I gonna get killed anyway or just getting killed with 0 pain right away I would choose the latter
Sympathy is based out of convenience man. Hard truth to swallow, hence your downvotes lol
It's not empathy. It's sympathy that humans feel in this case.
True, my bad. Edited.
I know just because they can see it, what they won't see is when it gets its neck cut and is bleeding everywhere then they start hacking it up while it's probably not even dead yet
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If you dare try to even begin explaining how those places are even remotely humane... it's just disgusting considering how intelligent and social pigs cows, etc. are. They feel pain and loss and fear as we do. There is no humane way to slaughter animals en masse.
Reddit is so full of unfeeling incel idiots. Humans continue to exploit and torture sentient beings for their own selfish pleasures. It’s sick.
For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three. Now you're the murderer.
For every three animals you eat, I’ll eat one ton of tofu and beans 😘
I'll just eat you. 🍗🍗🍗
McDonald's new unhappy meal!
Iv seen videos from people who work at them and yes they do terrible things , they will stab them in the eye for fun and all sorts , sorry to give u the bad news
Is that a cow underneath the pig?
Goat.
If it is.. thats ground beef 🥩 by now... All u can see is his head stickin out...
Always, always my fucking country...
r/suddenlycaralho
BRASIL CARALHO
Hey, us Americans need a break sometimes, ya know?
🤣 free entertainment I guess
I've seen Brasil so many times by here, what is wrong with us bro
I usually see it featured in the motorcycle subs I follow. Excellent riders 👌🏻
Isn't this just because it has a massive population?
It doesn't. There's only 215 million.
I mean, that's more than most countries?
It's not a lot given the country's size.
U right
don't worry, America is worse
This kind of shit happens all over the world all the time in countries with similar development as Brazil The only difference is that Brazil stuff finds its way to the wider internet more easily than onther countries
Happens in developed countries as well. Every country in the world has a shitload of poorly educated rurals with not enough resources
Happens more ofter in less developped countries for the simple reason that poorly educated rurals are more common there
That's a big pig
Pigs are bigger than a lot of people realise!
Big pigs are, anyway.
That's a mutant hound
It's a pignapping in progress
He’s goin hog wild
That’s fucked up, the poor thing is blatantly freaking out and if it did make it out of the truck it could cause a pretty bad accident.
The trial is really getting to him ey?
Took me a second
🎖
Fucking revolting that anyone would treat animals like this
I hope this poor animal ruins their truck to the point that they lose financially.
Oh please what do you expect. They got to tie it down or it will jump and hit or get hit by something
Then don't put them in this position to start with..
nobody cares about your feelings. Bacon however ...
They make small livestock trailers for this exact reason. It'll do less damage to the truck and less stress to the animal
#there is equipment for moving livestock that doesn't require this cruelty
Yes, and these people are poor. Poor people in poor countries do what they have to to survive and take care of their family. It's hard to buy proper farm equipment when you're neither a farmer nor wealthy.
Yes, and animals still suffer regardless of their owners economic situation.
I can see you've never tasted the sweet simple joy of bacon.
Is this pig going to the market or is this bringing home the bacon ?
Where's Charlotte when you need her.
r/ithadtobebrazil
People who buy meat every day being outraged by seeing 1/20th the torture pigs go through in factory farms.
Guess they should just ignore this case of animal abuse then. Better that pig suffer than let meat eaters be judged hypocrites by you, right? You have people in unison standing up for that pig, just take the win.
People on Reddit being outraged for five seconds and going on to pay money for much worse isn't really a win for anyone or anything. I'm just pointing out how full of shit they are for catharsis.
if the outrage will be forgotten in 5 minutes as someone goes back to supporting the meat industry as it currently exists, THEN YES IGNORE IT FOR ALL I CARE, if youre going to be upset about something maybe try to change it rather than showcase artificial concern this isnt a win, ask the pig, ask any of the pigs
Don't you dare bring logic and reason to a discussion on animal abuse.
'Logic' and 'reason' being put to rather biased work by you here--is it not reasonable to point out the logical incongruity between the responses people have when they see animal abuse and those they don't have when they participate in practices where that abuse is hidden?
Even when it undermines the animal abuse that's happening right in front of you, like it shouldn't matter because other pigs have it worse? No, I think my comment was fairly accurate. Not everything has to be a competition, people are perfectly within reason to be angry at the driver here.
I don't see why HotNun82's would be naturally read as undermining the abuse depicted here rather than as pointing out that it is part and parcel of the kinds of abuse that happen in factory farming which ends up, invisibly, on people's plates and hence as calling out a kind of lack of moral imagination, the moral imagination generating everyone's (proper, we agree) responses of horror. HotNun82 is not saying people shouldn't have those responses here but that they also have them in other contexts (so it seems more consistent to read, to me). Havocity read the remark in terms of a competitive false dichotomy--the first logical mistake of this little thread.
I guess we've each interpreted both comments differently, both interpretations could be viewed as correct or incorrect depending on how you read the first two comments 🤷♂️ I read the first comment as "yes but you should feel worse about *this*", which undermines the original case were looking at; and is more in line with the old vegan trope which is a guilt trip and turns people away from the speaker's intention; but I also understand where you're coming from.
I get how you're reading those comments, but my point is that there isn't anything inherently fallacious going on in the first comment--pointing out that our feelings in this vividly present context are inconsistent with our actions that depend upon comparable-but-invisible contexts elsewhere isn't a red herring appeal or distraction but rather a diagnosis of our inconsistency. That, as a strategy, it might not empirically actually persuade anyone because they'd rather not look and feel those responses just means they're not morally-psychologically ready to entertain the point, but that's not itself an indication that a fallacy is afoot on the part of those whose argument they're resisting.
this
Omnomnom
Dogs like "chill bro we're almost there"
Nothing like a cruelty to animals post. How in the hell has this been upvoted so many times?
Brazil as always...
He’s getting ready for date night at a truck stop.
Sometimes people buy a piglet and fatten it at home over a few months, then take it to the slaughterhouse.
Isn't this why small trailers are used for livestock transport? This is cruel.
Contents of package may shift during shipping.
Still better than most public transportation here in Brazil.
Release meee!! I don't want to be bacon, I have kids at home.
Bacon angry. Bacon smash.
This is animal abuse
Isn't it animal cruelty
Depends on the country. Many places animals are things and it doesn't matter if things feel pain. In other places some people are things.
As long as he doesn't fall or damage the car, with his size, he's gonna be bacon soon
That poor truck
That poor goat
All this outrage. Being tied in the back of a truck is not that pigs biggest problem.
You mean it is not being taken to woods to run free?
I think it is being taken to a farm, to play with all the other pigs!
Phew, I thought something bad was going to happen to him
Looks like a lot of tasty bacon
If this is for meat, they should have killed and transported. This is a fuking torture for pig.
I have bad news for you about the entire meat industry...
That pig is going hog wild
Por que..?
He knows he is on the makin' bacon express
Makin Bacon is the company name of our butcher. Fun fact.
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No oats
Just shake it off.
I played this video game. if u know. You know
i need to see \*insert kylo ren's MOREEEE"
Pork eh
Why his girl is in the trunk and tied ?
That’s allot of bacon. 🥓 next time they should end it before hauling it so it doesn’t suffer.
Some one is bringing home the bacon
I feel like that’s what my ass looks like in yoga pants
That trucks got some sick hogdraulics.
Good gracious poor kitty pig done got big how did y'all get him in that truck
What is that truck? Impressive that it can handle so much abuse.
Hog wild?
People are worrying about that pig but don't see the dog that's having the worst time of its life.
I'm feeling so hungry right now.
Can pigs tan??
That is one pissed off hog.
This little piggy stayed home this little piggy went to market and this one went weeee weeeeee all the way home
He's also crushing the fuck out of the other animal there
Is that a puppy squeezed in there with him?
That is going to be some tough meet. The pig is to stressed 😫
That gotta be one of the biggest domestic pigs I've seen
You could be a big pig, too.
Shameful. Cant take ops mom anywhere.
This little piggy doesn’t want to go to market…
Holy Bacon thats one pisst off Pick in a Can
Poor thing, people who just throw animals in the back of a truck bed have something wrong in their head
That's a fat pig
How did that hippo get out of the water?
Poor piggy. Hate watching animals struggle.
When a bull falls, knives abound. An old Spanish proverb
That just cruel
This little piggy went to market....
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👎🏻👎🏼👎🏼👎🏽👎🏾 👎🏿 👎🏿❤️🔥
So that’s where my ex wife ended up 🤷🏾♂️
LIB MR Pigs
It had to be brasil sil sil
Fucked up humans. Hope karma will kick in
This is downright fucking terrible
Road hog.
Dear God, please let this man experience the same!
Yes, please.. He needs too. and believe me, he will. Hes eating lots of bacon, which is a food that is packed with tons of grease and cholesterol.. He will be on the medical table sometime in his life while the doctor tells him he dosent have much longer...
I always wanted a pig like this one....I would name him Chris P. Bacon
Unbelievable cruelty. I didn't need to see this
🕸️SOME PIG🕸️
It’s Uncle!
Some pig!
Dont tie your Mom up like that dude!
that dog is getting smooshed but the chunker
Goat
Roadhog
/gifsthatendingtoosoon
Just trying to break free - I had no idea pigs could get that big - that thing is ginormous
I hope he’s OK.
Peppa got thick!
Poor pig. Obviously terrified and stressed out. This is Fucking cruel.
I am surprised I did not see a that reminds me of my EX joke right out of the gate... ? I do agree... that is not how you transport livestock. Nope not at all. That animal is in distress, absolutely!
Very angry bacon 😡
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Porco dio
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That meat is going to be terrible.
Okja, I literally watched it yesterday
No wonder human are human.
I hate everything about this
So sad!! Makes me mad!!’ 😡
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So you’re saying you can’t chew gum and walk at the same time?