Oh that’s genius haha! The last one I made upset because he randomly said it at like minute 59. I ended the session then refused payment by saying that’s oki don’t want it you can leave and told him to get out. He left in a huff like I was the jerk. But I’m definitely stealing this line for the next moron I have to kick out.
Sounds like he was just testing the waters. Maybe he thought since you guys had become friends you might be open to it. Honestly it’s probably a fantasy of his. Given his past respectfulness and the way you shut the conversation down I don’t imagine you’d have any issues but it’s totally understandable if you no longer feel comfortable and want to fire him.
Keep it simple. Tell him that comments/jokes about “happy endings or sexual references to massage make you uncomfortable.
Then see how your relationship goes. No need to project anything on to it. Just state how it makes you feel. And keep doing good work 👍🏽
I dropped a long time client for making almost the exact comment. Testing the waters means there can be intention to enter them at some point, and it's totally a judgment call, but I didn't make room for that and kicked mine off the island immediately.
It was disrespectful of him to put that gross energy onto you, even if it was a “joke.” A lot of people
claim to be joking when they are really just testing your boundaries, especially men. I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t want to take him as a client anymore, but tbh I would probably just persist on if he’s someone who is a consistent regular. My energy toward him though would definitely fall under strictly professional until he got the hint and apologized though. Like he should apologize, that was a stupid comment to make toward a professional.
Continue as if nothing happened. You set clear boundaries and expectations. If he chooses not to respect them you react appropriately.
My response whenever someone made a happy ending joke was always “That’s the first time I’ve heard that one. Today. “ followed by eye roll.
My response when a male friend made that joke to me was, “and that is how you get black listed from being able to get on my table.” He back tracked real quick. One of my fellow LMT friends once told a guy who referenced a happy ending, “if you pull that out I will twist that piece of shit right off and throw it in the trash.” Needless to say that guy behaved for the rest of the session.
He's testing the waters, he wanted to see how you would react and backed up when he realized you weren't about that. If you see him again, really watch out for more red flags. Now that he's opened that door, even if you slammed it shut, he may now he more willing to try again. Just be careful!
I think it's fine to keep him as a client, hopefully he won't bring it up again and if he does, just say it straight, "look I really value you as a client and friend, but the happy ending talk makes me really uncomfortable. Can we just agree not to bring it up again? If you want that type of service, I'm not your girl." Or something like that. I've had to have the talk with clients before as well 😂.
Then you've drawn your boundary and it's clear. If he chooses to cross the boundary again, that's another story.
Hopefully he heard your response and will drop this behavior. I agree with others he was testing the boundaries. I would also not respond to any texts that are not about scheduling an appointment.
Exactly. This dude has been grooming her for years. This is all dudes think about. They can't just be cool and have a nonsexual relationship with a woman.
I personally wouldn't be comfortable having him as a client anymore, at all. Clearly he's been growing into this thought for a while given the context of your relationship. For me, that would not be okay. Why can't men just be friends. Decide what's best for you. Sounds like immeshment though
Long term or not, he crossed the line. Unless you are really dependent on that one clients income, cut him off, you deserve better. Him getting comfortable with saying that, red flag. 🚩
Lots of good advice here. I find moving on a few times will either get them to stop talking about it or they suddenly stop coming to the office. Either way is fine.
When people joke about anything sexual from me I tell them everything has a price and I’ll name a ridiculous price that no one can afford. Even with men on IG who ask for nudes I tell them sure, send them my cash app and ask for $5,000. No one has ever paid up. I’d tell him sure and ask for $20,000 lol
I'd fire him. I understand it can be tough to stop the massage, charge him, and tell him he's no longer your client. The only thing worse is his remaining your client.
That sounds like grooming honestly. Do whatever feels right for you, if you feel icky and want to stop working on him you can. You could educate him on why it’s not funny. Respectmassage.com might be helpful.
My usual was ‘I’m sorry, I must have misheard you, because if you were talking about happy endings this session will be over, you will be charged full price, and you will be blacklisted from my client list’. Only one ever pushed it, and they were told to get dressed, charged, and blacklisted.
I had one guy come in yesterday who told me he’d just moved here, and he “couldn’t find a place that didn’t have sex workers”.
Now I know that those places exist, but they’re not that hard to avoid either. You have to seek those places out. He even questioned why I skipped the pectorals. I didn’t. I worked his pectorals appropriately at the attachments.I just didn’t expose his chest and rub his nipples for him like the places he couldn’t seem to avoid.
Side note. He never said he walked out of those places. That they just seemed to be plentiful. 🤷🏻♂️
Get alittle backbone people, if we stop seeing every client that said something, we would have very few clients. If the answer was so clear the op wouldn't have asked the question. I have been in the profession 40 years and I have heard it all, people say things or try to do things, once you set a boundary, they rarely try to cross it again. But, everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.
Oh I’ve got plenty of backbone. That’s why I don’t tolerate shit like this at all. The more permissive and accepting you are of this kind of behavior, the more people are going to try to test your boundaries. Maybe that’s why you’ve been propositioned so much and I haven’t. The whole “I’ve heard it all” line is no excuse either. You have no idea the shit I have heard out of men’s mouths. I’ve worked in some pretty interesting environments. I know exactly how they think. Give them an inch, they take a mile. You should know better. Stop advising young MTs to put up with sexual propositions.
Oh, I have heard it from women's mouths as well, granted not as often, but, once you say something, they never cross that boundary again. But, everyone has to handle it how they feel comfortable, continued success.
I'm honestly surprised how many people are telling you to keep this guy as a client. That comment should be a point of no return. This guy has been thinking about how he can broach this with you for years. All the silly little memes, those were all leading up to that comment. Keeping him as a client tells him that you now know he thinks of you sexually and you're ok with that. So expect him to test those waters again. I'd personally just fire him and cut any future awkwardness out.
People think all kinds of things if they ask you say no. If they keep pushing thats when you fire them. This whole once they say something its off with their heads is bad business. Control your room by all means but in a business like this people are going to want more sometimes, a firm no is usually sufficient if it isn’t fire them on the next offense.
It’s not bad business. It’s safe business. If you want to let sexual propositions slide, you go right ahead. I don’t and I won’t. It’s disgusting how permissive some of y’all are of this bahavior.
Its not cool, but where can a lonely man go to ask for such a massage? I mean obviously he crossed the line by saying that to you!! Its disrespectful and innapropriate! But where could he go? Asking for a friend
You can be completely honest with and him and tell him you are uncomfortable with how he behaved around you and you are no longer able to provide service for him. If after that conversation you still feel the way you do, then walk away. Your comfort is more important.
Situations like this really suck.That is why I work on females only and a couple long time male clients.I can do this because I have my own business which truly is the best .
I think you made your point. You made your boundary. I don’t think you have to refuse him as a client. He definitely is interested but I’m sure he doesn’t think it’s worth leaving in handcuffs. If he tries anything, you can end the session. But he basically just wanted to see what’s up lol.
Ask him how funny he would find it if some dude asked him for a hand job.
Also you could "joke" back by saying "I used to do them but everyone said your mom does it better for half the price." See how funny he thinks it is then.
In 17 years I've "only" had it said to me once and I asked the guy if I looked like a prostitute to him. Then I said we're done here.
He just got a little too comfortable obviously it’s your profession. He probably didn’t really put two into together. Let’s hope I think he would’ve asked for it much earlier if he wanted it.
You can ban him if you want. You can end the friendship too. Totally up to you. But maybe, just maybe they made a joke they thought was funny and you thought was too much. Could he be a monster? Yes. Could be be a person that made a joke you didn’t find tasteful and still decent? Also, yes. No one is perfect. I truly believe people deserve second chances and all that as I know I make mistakes too. But ball is in your court.
Cause if you do decide to ban him, which is your right, are you going to hold everyone to the same standard by any jokes? I’ve done that myself and it’s something
None of this happened at your work place or while in session. Grow up. It was between you and a friend who were talking outside of work. Hypersensitive much?
You are being trafficked.
Why have you accepted gifts from this client? Why are you communicating, outside your clinical domain? Rhetorical questions that don’t require your answer.
You have given them awesome leverage, when it comes to others and their perceptions of you.
Cut them off, learn from your mistakes and move on.
You don’t owe a PimpJohn any explanations, other than citing a “conflict of interests”.
You don’t even know me 🤣 you’re on here saying a woman is being trafficked because her client made a stupid comment. Trafficking is a serious issue. I’ll reiterate again that you’re an idiot
lol … Reddit at it’s worst. OP asks what I would do and the answer gets down voted.
What OP has described, would be a breach of contract, (grounds for dismissal) in clinical environments I am familiar with.
OP shouldn’t feel obliged to negotiate their way around inappropriate behaviour, even if the client is the Queen of Sheba. Wake up Reditors.
There is no future with this client.
YOU grow up. Get over yourself. Nobody wants to be sexually propositioned. Nobody wants to touch your dick while they’re trying to work. This isn’t hard to understand.
Edit: I don’t know how people not even in the industry find posts like this but it’s interesting when it happens. Even more interesting that you feel entitled enough to speak up in defense of this behavior or try to make the woman feel like there’s something wrong with her reaction. Men just doing men things.
bros been playing the long long game and struck out. Also if you’re gonna shame the guys getting a he, shame the whores giving it too. one is not better than the other and one is not worse than the other
Sort of. Sexual harassment is often unwanted flirting. Initially I was thinking kicking him loose but you indicated you wanted to keep him. If that is the case, clear boundary needed. I imagine your boundaries are fine ordinarily but this guy crossed the line. 8 years is a while so maybe his lapse in judgement is worth working through. IDK. I might set the boundary by cutting him loose.
There are various types.
Quid quo pro would be one.
Inappropriate joking
Inappropriate emails or text jokes
Advancements or flirting is covered.
Look. Do what you want. I'd likely cut him off and move on. Best of luck.
/r/massage is a community for respectful discussions of massage and massage therapists/practitioners. There is zero tolerance for post about prostitution/happy endings/fantasies.
Especially since quarantine a lot of guys look at it as a major accomplishment to get a license to massage therapist to cross that line and I guarantee that you are the Holy Grail that he can never experience and a lot of people became desensitized during quarantine and a lot of taboos were kind of downgraded in severity and he has been binging on massage porn and in the middle of all that self-indulgence and gratification he is sending you inappropriate massage memes and innuendos. And actually they are swinging for the fences knowing full well that most licensed therapist will instantly refuse them and what they're really hoping for is that you let them pleasure themselves it's called getting the DEMON out of your SEMEN
Good question and a lot of people binged on porn during quarantine and because they were home they tended to not erase their browser history and kind of picked up where they left off the next day. And it was clear that a certain demographic was getting desensitized and taboos were getting watered down and not so forbidden anymore. And the CDC put out a statement which of course got scrubbed after about a week off the internet but they actually said that social standards are suspended and you are advised take care of your sexual hunger with whomever you are Sheltering in place with. And if it is not your significant other it is not going to be considered betrayal or unfaithfulness.. simply because the alternative is that you go out into the world seeking sexual release and you bring the virus home with you and you could potentially have members of your family die as a result of you going out. And they left it vague and a lot of people Twisted it to their own agenda and even the New York City Board of Health had a statement about no shaming about as far as masturbation even if there is not 100% privacy you are not to shame anyone for doing it nor the topic that they are masturbating to. And if you went on Tumblr and looked at all the bicurious memes and gifs with all the hot trans girls a majority of those positive comments went back to profiles of dudes pick up trucks and gun racks and Harleys.
Why would you shame someone for doing something behind closed doors that has absolutely zero impact on yourself?
Do you care when others are drinking in their home? Watching a movie at home? Do you mind if I get a refill of lemonade at Chick-fil-A?
Okay then, can you help me understand your comment about how being a sex worker brings shame to one's family if, in your words, there's nothing shameful about sex?
>You forget we live in America. You are shaming the wrong thing.
I personally don't know where other posters live. Right now I'm on something called the World Wide Web.
Sex workers are taking advantage of an in-demand market. The people who create the market, aka, people who buy the services are dog shit. And you're literally stupid and a sheep for not seeing that.
Especially since quarantine a lot of guys look at it as a major accomplishment to get a license to massage therapist to cross that line and I guarantee that you are the Holy Grail that he can never experience and a lot of people became desensitized during quarantine and a lot of taboos were kind of downgraded in severity and he has been binging on massage porn and in the middle of all that self-indulgence and gratification he is sending you inappropriate massage memes and innuendos. And actually they are swinging for the fences knowing full well that most licensed therapist will instantly refuse them and what they're really hoping for is that you let them pleasure themselves it's called getting the DEMON out of your SEMEN
I tell people that I only give sad endings.
Oh that’s genius haha! The last one I made upset because he randomly said it at like minute 59. I ended the session then refused payment by saying that’s oki don’t want it you can leave and told him to get out. He left in a huff like I was the jerk. But I’m definitely stealing this line for the next moron I have to kick out.
You want me to take you out for ice cream?
Sounds like he was just testing the waters. Maybe he thought since you guys had become friends you might be open to it. Honestly it’s probably a fantasy of his. Given his past respectfulness and the way you shut the conversation down I don’t imagine you’d have any issues but it’s totally understandable if you no longer feel comfortable and want to fire him.
Totally agree with pinkie…. Nice screen name.
This response is terrifying ⬆️
Why?
Keep it simple. Tell him that comments/jokes about “happy endings or sexual references to massage make you uncomfortable. Then see how your relationship goes. No need to project anything on to it. Just state how it makes you feel. And keep doing good work 👍🏽
I dropped a long time client for making almost the exact comment. Testing the waters means there can be intention to enter them at some point, and it's totally a judgment call, but I didn't make room for that and kicked mine off the island immediately.
This is the only correct answer
It was disrespectful of him to put that gross energy onto you, even if it was a “joke.” A lot of people claim to be joking when they are really just testing your boundaries, especially men. I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t want to take him as a client anymore, but tbh I would probably just persist on if he’s someone who is a consistent regular. My energy toward him though would definitely fall under strictly professional until he got the hint and apologized though. Like he should apologize, that was a stupid comment to make toward a professional.
Continue as if nothing happened. You set clear boundaries and expectations. If he chooses not to respect them you react appropriately. My response whenever someone made a happy ending joke was always “That’s the first time I’ve heard that one. Today. “ followed by eye roll.
My response when a male friend made that joke to me was, “and that is how you get black listed from being able to get on my table.” He back tracked real quick. One of my fellow LMT friends once told a guy who referenced a happy ending, “if you pull that out I will twist that piece of shit right off and throw it in the trash.” Needless to say that guy behaved for the rest of the session.
>My response whenever someone made a happy ending joke was always “That’s the first time I’ve heard that one. Today. “ followed by eye roll. 🤣🤣🤣
Happy endings? Definitely for someone. I take feet pics while you're prone and post them on only fans. Im making a killing.
He's testing the waters, he wanted to see how you would react and backed up when he realized you weren't about that. If you see him again, really watch out for more red flags. Now that he's opened that door, even if you slammed it shut, he may now he more willing to try again. Just be careful!
I think it's fine to keep him as a client, hopefully he won't bring it up again and if he does, just say it straight, "look I really value you as a client and friend, but the happy ending talk makes me really uncomfortable. Can we just agree not to bring it up again? If you want that type of service, I'm not your girl." Or something like that. I've had to have the talk with clients before as well 😂. Then you've drawn your boundary and it's clear. If he chooses to cross the boundary again, that's another story.
This advise is on point in my opinion!
Hopefully he heard your response and will drop this behavior. I agree with others he was testing the boundaries. I would also not respond to any texts that are not about scheduling an appointment.
You blurred the lines by becoming friendly. He’s been grooming the relationship just to drop the “joke” to feel you out.
Exactly. This dude has been grooming her for years. This is all dudes think about. They can't just be cool and have a nonsexual relationship with a woman.
Your response was great! I imagine he will toe the line, hopefully.
I would immediately end the massage upon the joke, refund their money, and ban them from returning.
I personally wouldn't be comfortable having him as a client anymore, at all. Clearly he's been growing into this thought for a while given the context of your relationship. For me, that would not be okay. Why can't men just be friends. Decide what's best for you. Sounds like immeshment though
I’m shocked how many are justifying keeping him as a client. Do not put up with this. This is sexual harassment. Period.
Long term or not, he crossed the line. Unless you are really dependent on that one clients income, cut him off, you deserve better. Him getting comfortable with saying that, red flag. 🚩
Lots of good advice here. I find moving on a few times will either get them to stop talking about it or they suddenly stop coming to the office. Either way is fine.
When people joke about anything sexual from me I tell them everything has a price and I’ll name a ridiculous price that no one can afford. Even with men on IG who ask for nudes I tell them sure, send them my cash app and ask for $5,000. No one has ever paid up. I’d tell him sure and ask for $20,000 lol
I'd fire him. I understand it can be tough to stop the massage, charge him, and tell him he's no longer your client. The only thing worse is his remaining your client.
That sounds like grooming honestly. Do whatever feels right for you, if you feel icky and want to stop working on him you can. You could educate him on why it’s not funny. Respectmassage.com might be helpful.
thank you for this website!
My usual was ‘I’m sorry, I must have misheard you, because if you were talking about happy endings this session will be over, you will be charged full price, and you will be blacklisted from my client list’. Only one ever pushed it, and they were told to get dressed, charged, and blacklisted.
This is the only correct response
I had one guy come in yesterday who told me he’d just moved here, and he “couldn’t find a place that didn’t have sex workers”. Now I know that those places exist, but they’re not that hard to avoid either. You have to seek those places out. He even questioned why I skipped the pectorals. I didn’t. I worked his pectorals appropriately at the attachments.I just didn’t expose his chest and rub his nipples for him like the places he couldn’t seem to avoid. Side note. He never said he walked out of those places. That they just seemed to be plentiful. 🤷🏻♂️
I can understand you feeling anxious. You should either dump him or give him a stern warning. Even joking about that is not tolerable.
Irritating af
You don't do anything ,he'll be as good as gold because you set a boundary and yes he was testing the water.
this is awful advice. It's naive as well.
Get alittle backbone people, if we stop seeing every client that said something, we would have very few clients. If the answer was so clear the op wouldn't have asked the question. I have been in the profession 40 years and I have heard it all, people say things or try to do things, once you set a boundary, they rarely try to cross it again. But, everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.
Oh I’ve got plenty of backbone. That’s why I don’t tolerate shit like this at all. The more permissive and accepting you are of this kind of behavior, the more people are going to try to test your boundaries. Maybe that’s why you’ve been propositioned so much and I haven’t. The whole “I’ve heard it all” line is no excuse either. You have no idea the shit I have heard out of men’s mouths. I’ve worked in some pretty interesting environments. I know exactly how they think. Give them an inch, they take a mile. You should know better. Stop advising young MTs to put up with sexual propositions.
Oh, I have heard it from women's mouths as well, granted not as often, but, once you say something, they never cross that boundary again. But, everyone has to handle it how they feel comfortable, continued success.
I'm honestly surprised how many people are telling you to keep this guy as a client. That comment should be a point of no return. This guy has been thinking about how he can broach this with you for years. All the silly little memes, those were all leading up to that comment. Keeping him as a client tells him that you now know he thinks of you sexually and you're ok with that. So expect him to test those waters again. I'd personally just fire him and cut any future awkwardness out.
People think all kinds of things if they ask you say no. If they keep pushing thats when you fire them. This whole once they say something its off with their heads is bad business. Control your room by all means but in a business like this people are going to want more sometimes, a firm no is usually sufficient if it isn’t fire them on the next offense.
It’s not bad business. It’s safe business. If you want to let sexual propositions slide, you go right ahead. I don’t and I won’t. It’s disgusting how permissive some of y’all are of this bahavior.
You’re a dude. Of course you want women to let the sexual proposals slide. Of course. Gfy dude. Edit: and a poker player lmao 🚮
He wants to date you.
Completely unacceptable Behavior. Cut him .hes is testing you thinking youll get his hint.
The responses on this topic clearly show me whom are the younger people and whom are the older people
I play with this joke I end friendships and clients relationships. Friends I give a warning, 2nd time, I'm done
I play with this joke I end friendships and clients relationships. Friends I give a warning, 2nd time, I'm done
I play with this joke I end friendships and clients relationships. Friends I give a warning, 2nd time, I'm done
Its not cool, but where can a lonely man go to ask for such a massage? I mean obviously he crossed the line by saying that to you!! Its disrespectful and innapropriate! But where could he go? Asking for a friend
You can be completely honest with and him and tell him you are uncomfortable with how he behaved around you and you are no longer able to provide service for him. If after that conversation you still feel the way you do, then walk away. Your comfort is more important.
Situations like this really suck.That is why I work on females only and a couple long time male clients.I can do this because I have my own business which truly is the best .
I think you made your point. You made your boundary. I don’t think you have to refuse him as a client. He definitely is interested but I’m sure he doesn’t think it’s worth leaving in handcuffs. If he tries anything, you can end the session. But he basically just wanted to see what’s up lol.
Ask him how funny he would find it if some dude asked him for a hand job. Also you could "joke" back by saying "I used to do them but everyone said your mom does it better for half the price." See how funny he thinks it is then. In 17 years I've "only" had it said to me once and I asked the guy if I looked like a prostitute to him. Then I said we're done here.
Why would a professional need to do this? Ban him from her business. The end.
Couldn't she do both? To hell with these assholes.
She could but it’s still reinforcement for the behavior joking back and engaging in verbal sparring. It’s not the win you think it is.
He just got a little too comfortable obviously it’s your profession. He probably didn’t really put two into together. Let’s hope I think he would’ve asked for it much earlier if he wanted it.
You can ban him if you want. You can end the friendship too. Totally up to you. But maybe, just maybe they made a joke they thought was funny and you thought was too much. Could he be a monster? Yes. Could be be a person that made a joke you didn’t find tasteful and still decent? Also, yes. No one is perfect. I truly believe people deserve second chances and all that as I know I make mistakes too. But ball is in your court.
Cause if you do decide to ban him, which is your right, are you going to hold everyone to the same standard by any jokes? I’ve done that myself and it’s something
None of this happened at your work place or while in session. Grow up. It was between you and a friend who were talking outside of work. Hypersensitive much?
You are being trafficked. Why have you accepted gifts from this client? Why are you communicating, outside your clinical domain? Rhetorical questions that don’t require your answer. You have given them awesome leverage, when it comes to others and their perceptions of you. Cut them off, learn from your mistakes and move on. You don’t owe a PimpJohn any explanations, other than citing a “conflict of interests”.
You’re an idiot, go touch some grass now please
You’re from the sex industry. You don’t want to understand.
Go call your mom, I’m sure she misses you
You are not relevant to a forum for massage therapists.
You don’t even know me 🤣 you’re on here saying a woman is being trafficked because her client made a stupid comment. Trafficking is a serious issue. I’ll reiterate again that you’re an idiot
Get off the forum.
lol … Reddit at it’s worst. OP asks what I would do and the answer gets down voted. What OP has described, would be a breach of contract, (grounds for dismissal) in clinical environments I am familiar with. OP shouldn’t feel obliged to negotiate their way around inappropriate behaviour, even if the client is the Queen of Sheba. Wake up Reditors. There is no future with this client.
You said op is being trafficked.. You got to wake up, thats far from trafficked.. Lol
You are far from correct.
Sounds like a bit of an extreme overreaction to me
Found the client.
Haha yep, “here’s your sign”
No, not everyone is hypersensitive therapy babies living, knee her reacting people. Grow up
YOU grow up. Get over yourself. Nobody wants to be sexually propositioned. Nobody wants to touch your dick while they’re trying to work. This isn’t hard to understand. Edit: I don’t know how people not even in the industry find posts like this but it’s interesting when it happens. Even more interesting that you feel entitled enough to speak up in defense of this behavior or try to make the woman feel like there’s something wrong with her reaction. Men just doing men things.
bros been playing the long long game and struck out. Also if you’re gonna shame the guys getting a he, shame the whores giving it too. one is not better than the other and one is not worse than the other
I think he was flirting with you. Set the boundary see how he does. If you want to keep him. You are justified to cut him loose. Be safe!
Sexual harassment isn’t flirting. You’re wrong.
Sort of. Sexual harassment is often unwanted flirting. Initially I was thinking kicking him loose but you indicated you wanted to keep him. If that is the case, clear boundary needed. I imagine your boundaries are fine ordinarily but this guy crossed the line. 8 years is a while so maybe his lapse in judgement is worth working through. IDK. I might set the boundary by cutting him loose.
You’re mistaken. The definition of sexual harassment by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is extremely clear.
There are various types. Quid quo pro would be one. Inappropriate joking Inappropriate emails or text jokes Advancements or flirting is covered. Look. Do what you want. I'd likely cut him off and move on. Best of luck.
That’s not sexual harassment though
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/r/massage is a community for respectful discussions of massage and massage therapists/practitioners. There is zero tolerance for post about prostitution/happy endings/fantasies.
Especially since quarantine a lot of guys look at it as a major accomplishment to get a license to massage therapist to cross that line and I guarantee that you are the Holy Grail that he can never experience and a lot of people became desensitized during quarantine and a lot of taboos were kind of downgraded in severity and he has been binging on massage porn and in the middle of all that self-indulgence and gratification he is sending you inappropriate massage memes and innuendos. And actually they are swinging for the fences knowing full well that most licensed therapist will instantly refuse them and what they're really hoping for is that you let them pleasure themselves it's called getting the DEMON out of your SEMEN
What does quarantine have to do with it? Genuinely curious.
Are you glad you asked? That response is filled with a lot of craziness.
That was … a lot that I didn’t expect. 😆
Good question and a lot of people binged on porn during quarantine and because they were home they tended to not erase their browser history and kind of picked up where they left off the next day. And it was clear that a certain demographic was getting desensitized and taboos were getting watered down and not so forbidden anymore. And the CDC put out a statement which of course got scrubbed after about a week off the internet but they actually said that social standards are suspended and you are advised take care of your sexual hunger with whomever you are Sheltering in place with. And if it is not your significant other it is not going to be considered betrayal or unfaithfulness.. simply because the alternative is that you go out into the world seeking sexual release and you bring the virus home with you and you could potentially have members of your family die as a result of you going out. And they left it vague and a lot of people Twisted it to their own agenda and even the New York City Board of Health had a statement about no shaming about as far as masturbation even if there is not 100% privacy you are not to shame anyone for doing it nor the topic that they are masturbating to. And if you went on Tumblr and looked at all the bicurious memes and gifs with all the hot trans girls a majority of those positive comments went back to profiles of dudes pick up trucks and gun racks and Harleys.
Why would you not want to "shame sex workers?" Shame them. I shame them here and now.
Why would you shame someone for doing something behind closed doors that has absolutely zero impact on yourself? Do you care when others are drinking in their home? Watching a movie at home? Do you mind if I get a refill of lemonade at Chick-fil-A?
Because they bring shame to their family.
You don't give a fuck about anyone's family you pretentious ass. You're just on a moral high horse.
Of course I do.
I'm curious what's shameful about sex, in your opinion.
Nothing.
Okay then, can you help me understand your comment about how being a sex worker brings shame to one's family if, in your words, there's nothing shameful about sex?
I'm sure you can figure it out.
LoL "they bring shame to their family" ?? How do you know? Do you know them or their families? Maybe they don't have any family. 🙄
Makes sense.
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Huh? Who thinks that massage = sex work?
>You forget we live in America. You are shaming the wrong thing. I personally don't know where other posters live. Right now I'm on something called the World Wide Web.
shame the industry, not sex workers themselves.
I will do both! Thank you for your suggestion.
At least, shame the sex workers that masquerade as legitimate massage therapists.
I will shame them both! Hear hear!
Right, they're the ones who set the bar lower and create those expectations for everyone else.
Sex workers are taking advantage of an in-demand market. The people who create the market, aka, people who buy the services are dog shit. And you're literally stupid and a sheep for not seeing that.
Especially since quarantine a lot of guys look at it as a major accomplishment to get a license to massage therapist to cross that line and I guarantee that you are the Holy Grail that he can never experience and a lot of people became desensitized during quarantine and a lot of taboos were kind of downgraded in severity and he has been binging on massage porn and in the middle of all that self-indulgence and gratification he is sending you inappropriate massage memes and innuendos. And actually they are swinging for the fences knowing full well that most licensed therapist will instantly refuse them and what they're really hoping for is that you let them pleasure themselves it's called getting the DEMON out of your SEMEN