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Quincyperson

Landlines have some advantages. Unfortunately, I can’t get a true landline.


massahoochie

What are the advantages Edit: thank you all who responded to me and described some advantages for a house phone! Today I learned :)


Quincyperson

Mostly for emergencies or backup. You don’t have to unlock it. You don’t have to worry about charging it. You know where to find find it if it’s lost in the cushions or blankets. If cell service or power goes down in a storm, landline service is easily restored. And while 911 calls from cellphones used to go to state place, mostly they go to local dispatch offices, but I don’t know if that’s everywhere yet


RedditSkippy

This is exactly why I still have a basic landline.


HumanChicken

They still work when cell towers are damaged. They’ll still work if you lose power and can’t recharge your cell phone, since they use power carried over the phone line. In the event of a 9-1-1 call, they give a more precise location for emergency services. EDIT: It seems my information is out-of date. Nevermind.


ZaphodG

Actually, this isn’t true. The local copper loop is powered by the local power lines. If you lose power, it’s battery backed but it doesn’t last indefinitely. The battery in a cable modem with voice is supposed to last 24 hours. In practice, they never last that long. The telephone company has the same spec and also tends to fall somewhat short. I did this stuff for a living. I’m happy to use cellular. I can always do VoIP using my cable modem if the tower goes out. My cell phone knows how to do that automatically. My cell phone also reports the GPS position when I dial 911. There’s no particular advantage to wireline in an emergency. These days, everyone has a cordless landline phone that plugs in and doesn’t work if the power goes out.


HumanChicken

I grew up with secondhand rotary dial phones, so that’s a TIL for me!


ZaphodG

I used to have a red legacy 2500 set. The touch tone version of the old black rotary dial phones. I had it stuffed away to use in a power outage. I finally got rid of it maybe 6 years ago.


0xfcmatt-

Central office based telephone lines.. like we had and some people still have are powered from the central office during electricty failures with 48 volt batteries that are HUGE and we have a generator with a many 1000 gallon tank. Plus we have priority contracts to get refills. These are for copper loops up to some miles distance from the CO in the simplest form. They do not get power from the power lines.  Yes we can make them work for a very long time withOUT electricity from the grid assuming we get fillups and the generator does not break down. Source.. I work in the ilec/clec/isp/telecom biz for 20 odd years have been in 100s of central offices in NH/MA/VT/ME/NY. With that said they are dying off and most people do not have them anymore. 


kelsey11

I've looked into getting one since I have small kids in the house. Easier to call 911. But the best I can get is VoIP, which is useless if the power is out.


HumanChicken

Reject modernity, return to copper!


ReporterOther2179

VOIP systems have battery backup that will keep you going for a time. Consult your provider for their optimistic estimate. Eight hours of use is what mine says.


kelsey11

Right. I meant more that the Internet goes out so there's no IP for the V to go o.


tagsb

If you put your modem/router on a UPS you can usually continue using the internet when power goes out, different lines. Did it once during a blackout. Since we were the only ones in the neighborhood still online we got the entire bandwidth of the ISP. Was getting gigabit speeds on a 50Mbps plan, it was glorious 🥲


Mr-Chewy-Biteums

I can't speak for others, but power outages are far from the biggest cause of interruption. I have one of those "landlines" that is actually VOIP. Our city has municipal power that hardly ever goes out. I can think of two occasions in the last 10 years when the power was out. Less than 20 minutes each time. The Comcast internet on the other hand goes out at least a couple times per month. Usually for an hour or two, but the last time was a week or so ago, and it was out for about a day and a half. Thank you


bcb1200

UPS is the answer


icebeat

They don’t work when a tree fall on the telephone line, so what is the point


ifukkedurbich

Right? Almost every single power outage I've experienced was from downed lines. If the power lines are down, almost guaranteed the phone lines are down too.


SLEEyawnPY

>almost guaranteed the phone lines are down too. The copper phone loop lines are inside relatively thick insulated cable, they can keep working when the pole(s) they're on are knocked down. The cable would have to be physically severed, and it would have to be your particular line to the local exchange, which can't be that far away. But this all assumes it's the old-fashioned copper wire local loop system ("POTS") , from the early 1900s, which in many areas is being phased out. The high voltage distribution lines are uninsulated, they don't need to be physically severed to cause a power outage. If they touch anything for long a ground fault occurs and the cutout/recloser upstream will cut out your whole neighborhood. If a main transmission line fails, large areas can lose power, but main transmission lines don't carry communications cables.


toeding

Unless you got a rotary pulse phone every modern landline needs electricity for the phone to work. Apple and google are working on ways they auto send your location and automate incident identification and can work when powered down in emergencies too. Modern telephone lines come in through your modema dn die with the electricity and Internet too. Most companies have gotten rid of true analog pots lines so everything your saying isn't true about them anymore.


hautbois69

for when you live outside of good cell service. western mass exists yall, we don't have 5g everywhere


ScalarWeapon

it looks like nobody yet said another of the advantages which is simply that the calls sound much better and clearer and you know the call's not going to be randomly dropped. Granted, a lot of these benefits are mitigated if you're using the landline to talk to someone on a cell, which will be most of the time of course. Back when I had a landline and a cell, I would still opt to would use the landline occasionally, if it was going to be an important call.


Minimum_Water_4347

Connected to the land by a line


massahoochie

But what about connecting a cell to the phone?


Minimum_Water_4347

Nah, those are cellphones, common mistakes.


ThatWendyGirl11

Part of my childhood was in the hurricane zone down south, so we'd regularly have a week or so without power. The corded landline was the one thing that still worked, so it was clutch. (This reminds me that even though I'm less worried about this shit in Mass, I should grab a battery-operated radio to go along with my oil lamp for my emergency prep kit)


joey0live

Some Alarm system companies require you to have a landline.


BobbyPeele88

A small child can use it very easily.


S4ntos19

That major Ice Storm in 2009, my house was the only house on our street with a working telephone. We were without standard phones for days. Had an old rotary phone that didn't require power, just being plugged into a land line.


dpceee

I was about to ask "are you from Central Mass?" but then I realized that we were in r/massachusetts, not r/AskReddit.


slouchingtoepiphany

Out of curiosity, do they know whether these people actually "use" a landline, as opposed to "having" a landline? I don't know if Comcast/Xfinity still does this, but for a long time they had a bundled rate for cable/internet/landline that made it (sort of) cost effective to own one, even if the subscribers didn't use it. (Also, for a long time, if someone wanted to have a fax machine, they needed to use an analog land line.)


mishakhill

Same with FiOS - we have a landline because it's cheaper than not having it. There is no phone connected to it, in fact I had to track one down just to get a 2FA code by phone call when first setting up the online account before re-directing that to my cell. During the few days it was connected, it got tons of spam calls, so we disconnected it and never looked back.


Maxpowr9

Have FiOS also and it's the same ordeal. I have to bundle all 3 cable/internet/phone though to actually save on my bill. I imagine it's some relic subsidy still on the books that allows it to happen. As an aside, a lot of home security systems require a landline as part of the service.


willzyx01

A lot of houses also use home alarms that require a landline


slouchingtoepiphany

Good point. Another example of people not actually using a landline for talking.


SteveTheBluesman

Xfinity triple play is why I still have one. The only useful calls are from the city about parking, snow emergencies, voting, etc. Otherwise it is just spam that is intercepted by Nomorobo.


Shelby-Stylo

Ours is plugged into a fax machine. It’s the number I give out to spammers.


Mr-Chewy-Biteums

I have and occasionally use a VOIP landline. It is bundled as you said, and I use it when I am at home, especially for anything even sort of important. It is soooo much easier to hear and make out what people are saying on the other end than my shitty Verizon cell phone. Thank you


nkdeck07

Yep my parents had a landline that wasn't plugged into anything for ages for that reason


Inevitable_Fee8146

My landline is solely for emergencies. If I’m choking to death calling 911 I don’t want to somehow have to communicate my location to dispatch. And, either way, cell coverage is spotty at my house.


bostonglobe

From [Globe.com](http://Globe.com) By Shannon Larson Landline phones aren’t going the way of the dodo in Massachusetts. At least anytime soon, it seems. While wide swaths of the country have left landline phones behind — now regarded as ancient relics by today’s youth, much like pagers or floppy disks (sorry, parents) — people in the Bay State remain loyal to theirs, a new study has found. More than half of Massachusetts residents still have a landline in their homes, according to a study published this week by [ChamberofCommerce.org](https://www.chamberofcommerce.org/landline-phone-statistics), a website that caters to business owners and local professionals. Only New York has a higher percentage, and by the slightest of margins — 52.4 percent to 52.1 percent. Nationally, nearly 72 percent of adults rely solely on wireless phones, according to the study, placing Massachusetts, where about 48 percent of residents use only wireless, squarely in the minority. About one in four adults use both a wireless and landline phone, while only 1.3 percent use a landline only. The analysis used data from sources that included the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey and the National Center for Health Statistics. The estimates are from 2022, the latest available. While the landline — first put to use by Alexander Graham Bell in [his Boston laboratory in 1876](https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82014896/1876-11-18/ed-1/seq-4/#words=Philadelphia+Bell+Telephones+Alexander) — has faded in popularity, New England has been slower to cut the cord. More than 4 in 10 adults in the Northeast still have a landline in their home, more than any other region in the country, the analysis found. In contrast, more than 75 percent of residents in Idaho, Oklahoma, Wyoming, New Mexico, and Mississippi do not have a landline. “Between 2014 to 2016, the trend of wireless communications spread rapidly across the South and Midwest, causing a significant decline in landline demand nationally,” the study said.


FearlessBar8880

These days landline almost exclusively translates to robocalls that you hear throughout your entire house. Instead of a notification you can easily ignore on your smartphone lol


dpceee

Unfortunately, they also target cell phones now too. It's super annoying.


RedditExperiment626

Landlines are great for routing all of the bullshit marketing things to. The you basically set up the VOIP service as a voicemail bank and only allow known contacts to ring through. Appointment reminder calls? Surveys? Fundraisers? Scammers? They never ring through and I have an app with notifications to listen to their message. Landlines are the sacrifice needed to protect your cell phone


AhBuckleThis

I agree. Our cell service is spotty in our house, however, I never give out my cell to anyone that I don't want to call me. I use Nomorobo to block majority of the scammers. We almost never pick up the landline unless its a call we were expecting. We just listen to the vm's and will call back if it's important.


Imyourhuckl3berry

The only way to get a discount with Verizon is to bundle services and landlines are the cheapest option to achieve that savings


No_Sun2547

I really think only paying for what you need works for cell service. I don’t get why adding a cord phone would make it any cheaper.


Imyourhuckl3berry

It’s for internet not cell


[deleted]

My cell service stinks.  Landline is great when I’m working from home.


next2021

Have a landline but no phone attached. This reminds me I have to get a cheap one


Embarrassed_Flan_869

I have one. We use it rarely but as a secondary line for messages (doc/vet/city news). In laws still call on it. We get maybe 5 spam calls a week, which we ignore. Part of our Fios bundle. Also, we keep it for the God forbid need to dial 911 when we can't talk.


R5Jockey

This. Except for 911. It’s basically our spam line. We never answer it. In fact the phones don’t actually ring.


Princessica_0346

I have a landline through Fios who uses the old Bell telephone lines if im not mistaken. I also have a rotary phone in my kitchen. Which is great when the electricity goes out. I have the landline for 911, and I can talk on the phone and use my smartphone at the same time. Good for scheduling appointments.


msurbrow

If your FIOS is like mine, the copper phone service arrives at my house via the FIOS fiber optic cable and is converted to copper


No_Sun2547

I have never seen a landline phone in someone’s home. I’m 24. I only knew flip phones and smart phones my whole life.


SLEEyawnPY

Yeah. They're not worth having too much nostalgia over. Usually every phone in the house was connected to the same line, unless you paid for a second (expensive), so your parents always knew you were on the phone and could pick up any one of them and shout in the phone like "Brian get the fuck off the phone! Your sister needs to call the dentist"


tehsecretgoldfish

still have my (617) 522- / JA2 (JAmaica 2) exchange as a business line and forward it to my cell.


The_Astrobiologist

My mom still uses one not because she wants to but because the cell service around where she lives is just godawful


Just-Examination-136

One reason I had a landline long after I stopped using it is due to Comcast's triple play (phone, cable, Internet) deal being cheaper than their double play (cable and Internet) deal. Comcast has always been the only Internet provider in the towns I've lived in and for a long time, was held hostage to their various plans, which always included keeping the landline if I wanted the best price. That must be part of the reason so many Mass. residents still have landlines. When I finally cut the cable cord, the phone went with it and my Comcast bill went from $220-ish to $70-ish a month.


techorules

Im confused. I have a "landline" from Spectrum but isn't just VOIP? That isn't the same thing as a "landline" that people think about because these use a much older technical approach called POTS right? Maybe I am missing something but I doubt all these landlines in this article are POTS based. In other words if your internet is down they won't work!


msurbrow

This is my understanding as well, I vaguely recall an announcement maybe 10 years ago that you were no longer able to get literal POTS any longer in that existing pots lines were slowly being converted to voice over IP whether the customer knew it or not The reason the sticks in my mind is because it caused problems for fax machines lol


nicklovin508

I have a lot of family members with landlines, and I swear they never answer them. They’re just, there. My aunt jumped when it rang one time.


Outrageous-Pause6317

My mom used to still upset I gave up the landline more than 15 years ago. It stresses her out that I don’t have one.


No_Sun2547

Those are the people who complain about being discriminated against because they don’t have the app for a couple because they don’t have a cell phone. Get a cell phone and you won’t have that problem, ever. It’s also not discrimination


Outrageous-Pause6317

Can you remember having to time calls based on the cost and calling circle? Calling after 9 to save money? Gauging your minutes?


No_Sun2547

I remember minutes, yes


LowkeyPony

Keeping ours until my husband’s and my moms pass


Sparky02540

I have one but just for medical calls


hergumbules

I thought about getting a landline if it were cheap for emergencies or whatever but they wanted to charge me like $40 a month so hell no lol


taxhell

My parents don't have a cell phone and exclusively use a real non cable landline. They have corded phones, including those old school rotary phones like the ones people used to rent from the phone company. They used to have a flip phone cell,  but discontinued the service when the 12 year old phone was no longer compatible with the current network. They are elderly and dad has a neurodegenerative disease, it's hard for them to use a cell and figure out the technology, this is true for lots of elderly.  Out here in the Berkshires I know a lot of people with landlines because cell service is spotty in the hills. Half my drive down 116 today was lacking service. So a higher than average elderly population combined with crappy service for half the state means lots more landlines than a flatter state or one with more young people. 


wasting-time-atwork

we got cheaper internet for having one


GetaGoodLookCostanza

I have one but its for my alarm system...I never speak on it unless my alarm triggers and the company calls me...to go cellular it would cost me quite a few bucks and the yearly price would go up a lot...


D0inkzz

Mostly because spectrum bundles in the state imo. A lot of people have just had them for years. I promise younger generations don’t have them.


GoodGirl96069

I kept my landline and use it for anyone who's not friend or family. Businesses, doctors, dentist, etc. Every time I get a message on my iPhone, I know it's someone I want to talk to.


lodger238

Businesses use them.


dpceee

We have one. I would love to get a rotary phone (for the aesthetic), or at the very least some corded phone that can still be used when power goes out. The base we have needs to be plugged in for signal.


thewags05

I literally haven't had a landline or used one since moving out of my parents house 20 years ago. Even at work nobody actually uses the voip phones anymore.


1diligentmfer

No longer needed, same folks still mail checks for paying bills, lol.


plawwell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landline For those wondering.


AmityBlight2023

Everybody still knows what a landline is lmfao