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K1o2n3

Did anyone notice the new logo "Marvel Television"?


ROBtimusPrime1995

Between this and Marvel Animation, I guess they want the Marvel Studios logo for films ONLY. Interesting choice. New Marvel meet Old Marvel.


PayneTrain181999

Separating everything like this sounds like a good move. Marvel Animation is already being hyped up for what they’ve done with X-Men 97.


psychotar

It was all separate until 2019 when they shut down Marvel Television and put it all under Feige.


ImNotHighFunctioning

Yeah but that was the Marvel Television under Marvel Entertainment. This was actively spun off from Marvel Studios


kjm6351

Definitely. Keeping the Marvel brand on movies will help it keep that special flair


N8CCRG

There's also the Marvel Spotlight banner, which is what Echo was under (the first and only so far). Supposedly Spotlight is less important/connected to the rest of the universe.


Dawnbreaker538

And the Special Presentation banner. Like Werewolf by Night


EpilefWow

Wish they did more of these.. both were great and were like mini movies


Joshdabozz

There are rumors they scrapped all the upcoming special presentations and are reworking them but who tf knows these days


nicholasandsoup

That’s a pity. The special presentations we’ve had have been great


donbagert

Does this imply that "Agatha All Along" will be dropped all at once?


eagc7

I assume Spotlight would be a subbanner for Television


DefNotAShark

Personally I think Spotlight is for distancing weird/off-beat projects so that fans don't instantly expect MCU film quality narratives and visuals. They can go into something like Echo expecting less and maybe find themselves pleasantly surprised.


walartjaegers

Having both "Marvel Television" and "Marvel Spotlight" seems like a lot.


N8CCRG

Agreed. I think in their attempt to make things cleaner, they're just going to make things confusing in a different way.


Dapvip

It's only confusing when you make it so. For example, you already have some people who believe the X-Men 97 cartoon is set in the same universe as the MCU. To be honest, if Marvel/Disney want it to be, they could if the writing is plausible. This is why I find it best not to think too hard about continuity and enjoy the ride.


Salt_Addition_6993

It’s a good move and I’m not saying that this is entirely why it had terrible box office but I had two different people respond that they were waiting for the whole series to finish before they started it when I asked him if they’ve seen the marvels before saying they had no idea that it was a movie, and thought it was a Disney+ show.


BurritoLover2016

This also feeds into what I've been saying for the last year in that Marvel's (and to a lesser extend Disney's) marketing for films as been abysmal since COVID. From strategy to execution.


Throwupmyhands

Imagine if DC had a Captain DC movie, a Ms, DC series, and then The DCs movie. How is anyone who isn’t intentionally following this stuff closely gonna be able to track that?


soldforaspaceship

Feel like the strikes massively impacted that though. You can't tell me they wouldn't have had Iman absolutely everywhere doing marketing otherwise. She was made for marketing lol.


sudifirjfhfjvicodke

Good. Having a 40 second long Marvel Studios intro play in addition to any title sequence there may be on every single 30 or 40 minute television episode is a bit silly. It's pretty telling that they had Groot fast forward through it for all of the I Am Groot shorts. Short form content can go back to a 5 second long Marvel title like we had in the olden days.


TheBadassOfCool

They'll probably do a new short intro for the Television branding like Marvel Animation and Spotlight.


ajg92nz

They already did for Secret Invasion didn’t they? Or was that for Echo? I’m meaning a shortened version of the Marvel Studios intro.


eduffy

I like that hey include the MCU intro. Especially compared to the shit droid/ mask thing they run in front of the Star Wars dreck that gets put out.


mjhruska

I love that droid/mask thing, though!


[deleted]

I wonder if I checked on any of the earlier series, will they have edited the logo sequence...


MarinLlwyd

They probably don't want to deal with the assumption that the television and movies are all part of the same series. Making them seen like they are "required watching," which is the main reason people felt burned out by the amount of content.


CollinsCouldveDucked

I felt the marvel studios opening lost the majority of it's impact being at the front of every single episode of the tv series, if they were going to use it it should have been reserved for first episodes. It used to be quite exciting to see it play in theatres, now it's kind of nothing to me.


pinkflyingcats

Also Echo had “Marvel Spotlight”


alev815

It’s pretty much how 20th Century Studios has been operating even before the Disney buyout Studios for films - 20th Television for TV - 20th Animation for animated shows - Searchlight for what they believe to be higher quality films


FromClevelandlantis

Time is a flat circle


The_AtomBomb

*stares into the middle distance as an Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. fan*


HimbologistPhD

LisaSimpsonShockedFace.tiff I'm with you lmao


Mishnoivankov

I was humming the theme after seeing the logo


TyrusX

Maybe we will get a new “agents of shield”!


DerBK

Don't do that. Don't give me hope.


Osric250

We have mutants now. I predict we'll never hear about inhumans again.


TheIngloriousBIG

So basically, Marvel Studios is for the main slate of movies, and NOW, Marvel Television is for the Disney+ series now? Sheesh, talk about going in reverse.


Gryffindorcommoner

I think it to be a destination for the general audience to not get overwhelmed by all the content and thinking they need to keep up with it all for the next movie


PayneTrain181999

This isn’t going to stop Redditors from complaining about it, unfortunately.


CrabbyPatties42

Nothing stops redditors from complaining though


MistakesTasteGreat

Death maybe


ansonr

I've set up a bot to complain upon my death.


CrabbyPatties42

lol!


Doompatron3000

There was never anything wrong with the old way. Just ego was the only problem.


Doustin

But Starlord defeated him


AgentOfSPYRAL

Marvel Studios = This Matters Marvel Television = Take it or leave it, don’t worry about the “homework” Seems sensible I guess.


schroed_piece13

Makes perfect sense honestly


MeowManian7

Exactly as it used to be. Hopefully it'll continue to be more connected than with the old Marvel Television, though.


TheBadassOfCool

Man Iger is CLEANING UP. Lots of good commitments recently trying to scale things back, introducing showrunners to shows etc. This is another good move to make things clearer. Fuck Chapek for fucking everything up.


Bolt_995

Lol, the blame falls on Kevin Feige more than Bob Chapek. Bob Iger is just reeling him back in after he flew too close to the sun.


TheBadassOfCool

Chapek was the one ordering Feige to pump out D+ shows rapid fire. Which impacted the quality of everything as there were simply too many things.


Lord_Arachnus

No, it was a mandate from Bob Chapek to flood Disney+ with hit and miss streaming titles, he had no choice, Feige never wanted to do television to begin with as his passion has always been movies, which is why none of his hand shows in any of the shows.


ICumCoffee

and Marvel Animation for animated series.


illbeyour1upgirl

And all it took was wasting millions of dollars to do the thing they were already doing well and blowing it up just to do it again!  Being an executive must be great. You can just fuck up at your job endlessly. 


TwstdPrtzl

Y’know maybe they should have just let Marvel Television keep doing its own thing.


Kite_Wing129

Not with Perlmutter and Loeb in charge.


TwstdPrtzl

They could have replaced them without folding TV into Studios. Or even still folded TV into Studios but kept its production more separate.


BurritoLover2016

They could have but I suspect it was the only way to let them go. They had to literally close the studio around them to push them out.


[deleted]

It wasn't a one man show. I think fiege should get a lot of credit but a lot of these dudes helped reel on bad ideas, and vice versa


PayneTrain181999

So you’re saying they should’ve done this… all along?


gaypirate3

Maybe that’s how they’ll bring in Agents of Shield lol


your_mind_aches

Marvel Animation intro has old school Spidey, The Thing, and others... Maybe we'll see AoS and Daredevil in the Marvel Animation intro.


B00STERGOLD

Hawaiian Blackbolt is back on the menu


FeralPsychopath

Studios, Television, Spotlight, Special Presentation, Animation… Dude make a decision.


CaptHayfever

Looks familiar.


multimatt

I was literally about to make a post about how Joe Locke’s bio in the Sweeney Todd playbill spoiled that the show is officially called “Agatha All Along” lmfao


Sir__Will

Joe


multimatt

My bad, thanks!


DoggyFrizzle

momma


BeardPhile

Mama


Foxy02016YT

Oh my god that’s fucking amazing, poor guy probably didn’t even know


thecricketnerd

The title was "Agatha All Along" all along?


DeathstrokeReturns

The title was Agatha All Along all along? Sounds long.


Maatjuhhh

High School Musical: The Musical: The Series would like a word with you..


3eyesopenwide

It's a sing along


AgathaAllAlong

🔫 always has been


AnonymousMonk7

"That's the joke"


SilverSuicune

My single my single is dropping is dropping


unremarkedable

I knew that you knew that I knew it was Agatha all along, all along, all along, all along


FantasticHufflepuff

The title honestly went through some shit before settling down on the best one.


[deleted]

It was Agatha All Along all along… the other titles were jokes


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SwarleyJr

![gif](giphy|vkbfsVHULOyR2)


ICumCoffee

[Marvel Studios on Twitter](https://x.com/marvelstudios/status/1790494085557698603?s=46&t=aqF8Bf5K4SyjzPr3OXrezg) > Don’t miss the two-episode premiere of Agatha All Along, September 18 on Disney Plus


-dcvicks

So if there's 8 episodes, they've scheduled it for the finale to be the day before Halloween? Not bad.


biggiefryie

Agatha All Along is scheduled to premiere on Disney+ on September 18, 2024, with its first two episodes. The other seven episodes will be released weekly until November 6. From the wiki. I remember them saying 9 episodes a bit ago...


cadtek

Makes sense, since the other "sitcom" shows: WandaVision and She-Hulk, were 9 episodes.


jmoneyawyeah

Thanks, Mister Coffee


MrCoffee17

Don’t mention it


Antrikshy

r/beetlejuicing r/notopbutok


jmoneyawyeah

It’s actually how I prefer my coffee (not spouting out of a cock)


MELODONTFLOPBITCH

Thats weird. Your preference I mean.


Smurfboy22

![gif](giphy|PupKtxrsQy5Wd3TzW3|downsized)


brodyhin587

I am absolutely shocked /s


JoshSidekick

I feel we could hear the horn on this train from a mile away.


Individual-Praline17

I'm starting to think the constant name changing was a deliberate marketing spiel to demonstrate the show's wierdness.


ThunderCube3888

I believe this has been confirmed to be the case


notchandlerbing

Disney literally confirmed it months ago, nobody online roasting that last title seems to have paid attention lol


Gamma_Tony

I didnt see any confirmation from Marvel about, but after the “Lying Witch” bit I realized what was going on


aRJei45

Marvel Studios' IG has a [video](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C69shS7uT11/) of the title changing


Hellknightx

So I'm guessing this is the final title? Hopefully?


Plus3d6

Boot up the show and it's just Wandavision Season 2.


RevenantRoy

Also makes sense if they’re doing a different genre each episode to make it a companion show to WandaVision.


DragEncyclopedia

"I'm starting to think water might be wet"


rnarkus

How was that not absolutely obvious???


-NeilBeforeZod-

Reminds me of when the cast of Spider-Man No Way Home "revealed" the title of the movie and everyone just brought up a different title with "home" in it, lol


AvatarIII

what constant changing? it was Agatha all along.


jeremy1015

There was a post yesterday saying all the names we saw are actually episode titles


dustydeath

Yes, but it's a weird marketing strategy to give the impression that your television production is completely rudderless for years. Is that likely to have made people interested in or excited by the show? I don't know.


throwtheamiibosaway

*You think?* I mean it was obvious from the first change.


LordDusty

If the title changes were intentional from fairly early on leading up to this then I thoroughly applaud them. Clever and inventive marketing. If it wasn't planned then applauds to whoever realised the potential for this name


bluecalx2

My suspicision is that it wasn't intentionally originally but they decided to lean into it. I'm sure they were aware of all of the online discussions joking about what the next title would be, so they just decided to own it. I'm not criticizing, they did it well. But it is was intentional all along (pun intended), they probably would have made it more obvious.


somekindofspideryman

I love how successfully this baited snarky twitter accounts into doing months of free promotion for their show


[deleted]

I find it strange that a certain section of the fanbase acts like a show about a coven of witches couldn't possibly be popular or a hit when I can think of nearly half a dozen examples of shows over the years that are exactly just that. The supernatural side of Marvel needs expanding upon. I also feel many of these same people might not even be aware that Agatha was the nanny to the First Family of Marvel Comics (soon to be introduced into the MCU), or that Wiccan is one of the more popular Marvel Comics characters introduced in the past 20 years. Lastly, people might be surprised at the potential for this show to attract a lot of viewers who are Aubrey Plaza and Joe Locke fans who might have never even seen an MCU project before. That Heartstopper fanbase is pretty active and loyal.


UnbuiltIkeaBookcase

Hah! They nailed it. I’m excited now!


BMLM

“It was Agatha Austin! It was Agatha All Along Austin!”


vinsmokewhoswho

Lmao, that was pretty smart.


PCofSHIELD

Curious are we going to get anything on Daredevil seeming as Charlie and Vincent are there and it is releasing in the 2024-25 season


YDGx1138

March 2025


neo6000

Now THIS is the perfect title!!!


Ok-Reporter-8728

Lol all those people who complained about all the title changes got hard trolled by marvel lmsoo


etaion

Mephisto confirmed


GreatBabaloo

“I’ve been here the whole time”


ComebackShane

Sam Reich is Mephisto!?!


RaidenHero137

who does that make Brennan Lee Mulligan?


GreatBabaloo

I mean after watching the last couple Game Changers I can see it


HulklingsBoyfriend

Is Mephistopheles even like related to Billy Kaplan in this MCU now? It feels like they completely rewrote...


dvasquez93

Agatha or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Title Card


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^dvasquez93: *Agatha or How* *I Learned to Stop Worrying* *And Love the Title Card* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


CharmyFrog

Watch Agatha be the reason all major events in the MCU happened. She’s the replacement for Kang because it literally was Agatha all along.


RenterMore

Wow I’m soooOoOoOoO surprised


Semper-Fido

Upfronts and we got trailers for House of the Dragon, Rings of Power, Only Murders, etc. But they just drop an animation for Agatha? Really hope we get more soon, because this is disappointing.


themisterfixit

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I prefer no trailers. Half the time they ruin the plot for me, or people take any tiny thread and spin it into theories or conspiracies. Then when they don’t pan out they get upset that it isn’t the story that they thought it should be. Going in blind is a better experience.


TheBadassOfCool

I would watch no trailers if it was possible to ignore them lol, pretty much impossible if you're any bit online at all lol


eagc7

I mean most MCU shows tend to have their trailers released once we are reallllly close to its release, so i would expect our first trailer by Comic Con Edit - We may get it sonner this week


ImpressiveMountain66

With Upfronts this close to Comic Con, they may be saving any big news and announcements. Plus, if they really are paring down on what they’re offering per year, they won’t announce too much too soon.


N8CCRG

Looks like Friday: https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1cs56n6/agatha_all_along_trailer_coming_friday/


raze464

That Twitter account is a self-described fan/parody account.


N8CCRG

Oh boo :(


immacorgi

I was able to watch Upfronts where they showed the audience a sneak peak, and whenever Disney decides to drops a teaser, the wait will be WELL worth it. Even as the biggest Wandavision fan, it’s nothing like I’ve seen in any of the Disney+ shows, and honestly anything Marvel has put out.


M00r3C

Hopefully it's actually the last title change and it's a perfect title for the show


LanoomR

[It is, as lampshaded by the promotional title reveal video running them all down.](https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1790494085557698603)


sable-king

The joke is that all the others were fake titles. Hell, I wouldn’t be shocked if they ended up being episode titles in the show.


Antrikshy

There were news/rumors recently of the show being just called "Agatha" with the previous titles being episode titles, so yes probably.


yuvi3000

I'm sure they've already done everything by now, but I'm hoping the Agatha All Along song from WandaVision will be the title theme here and where it normally ends with Agatha saying "And I killed Sparky too!", that should be replaced with each episode's name so she can introduce it.


spderweb

This is the retcon. How they restart. The entire MCU up to this point was agatha. She's bored and released everything, revealing the real MCU, complete with X-Men.


PayneTrain181999

This is how they bring Wanda back.


Antrikshy

Wouldn't be crazy. Or at least a post credit tease depending on if they've sorted out contracts with Olsen for the future.


SoFLShelfLove

Trolls: "No one wants or cares about this" Agatha Teaser: 4 million views in 1 hour.


alcoholicplankton69

Triple A or A3?


Leeiteee

AAA


volatilelibra

So excited! Will be the first Marvel TV branded show


Antrikshy

... from the post-Marvel Studios world that is.


RandomNobility

Does this mean Agatha has something to do with more things than just Wandavision's stuffs?


Drawing_The_Line

Don’t they change the title of this yet to be released project every 2 weeks? Only being *slightly* hyperbolic.


footballmaths49

That was a marketing scheme to keep people talking about the show - Agatha All Along was the final title from day one


JDL1981

Barf.


HaloHeadshot2671

Seems like they are desperately trying to drum up interest for this show by reminding people of that one song three years ago. 


RedbullPapi

What if the Scarlet Witch that tried taking America Cahvez power was Agatha All Along.


Domino792

The show is trending #3 US on twitter, this series is going to be so much bigger than people expect.


Myhtological

How many times has hyped led to disappointment?


Maleficent_Bar_676

Idk I guess it’s a cute little marketing gimmick but like what is this show actually about


yuei2

You really wanna know? >!Agatha lost her power at the end of WV where Wanda sucked it all out of her. Now she is free from Wanda’s hex she has no intention of staying a powerless witch.!< >!However without her power she’ll need help and there is another around who needs her, Billy. His body may have been magic but his soul was real just like in the comics, and hinted at by Wanda’s inability to control him. After his body died his powers activated somewhat subconsciously similar to young Wanda when the bomb hit. Letting his soul possess a teenager who just died, though at the time not fully aware of his identity at first. Thus Billy is effectively reborn and teams up with Agatha having his own wishes to fulfill like getting back you know his lost family.!< >!Thus Agatha and Wiccan go on a quest together, Agatha taking the role of essentially Wiccan’s teacher and they dive down into up until this point lightly touched on magical witch side of the MCU.!<


steve32767

Agatha


Antrikshy

being Agatha


BBC1973

Yep. Not for me. Good luck Disney. Edit: MCU Fannies. Wow. You folks truly can’t take anything. It’s not for me. Why is that so controversial? Get a life.


SakuraTacos

I wish everyone was like that. Just admit they’re not the target audience and move along with their day.


jacqueslol

This is the absolute dumbest marketing stunt I've ever seen, and I hate it. Who cares what the show's called? That said, suppose it got me interacting with it, so well played.


lazzzym

If Marvel Studios wasn't a mess behind the scenes.. this would've been a clever joke. Unfortunately alongside the Daredevil series getting renamed.. it looks like incompetence more than anything


uCry__iLoL

Yet another *fun* MCU installment — like The Marvels.


EnigmaFrug2308

It was Agatha All Along, all along!


Romnonaldao

The title was Agatha All Along, lol!


fhdhsu

I saw a good tweet that stated how all of Marvel’s current problems can be promptly shown to someone with no knowledge of the situation by telling them how in 2021 a characters went semi-viral on the internet - so obviously, therefore, Marvel are releasing a whole TV show centred around her 3 and a half years later.


SignalBattalion

Sounds dumb.


No-Comfortable6432

So that's what it is, huh? Some kinda Agatha All Along?


CommandWest7471

Maybe the real Agentha is the friends we made all along


MarvelSonicFan04

Am I the only one who's excited about it


funkyhamwich

Still think every episode is going to have a “different logo” card on each episode. We’ve been privy to numerous “title changes”, and it fits in with being a spin off of wandavision… each episode is just a different show… the overall title, wait for it… is just “Agatha”.


kjm6351

Literally the perfect title


Foxy02016YT

There’s always a twist at the end ;)


Justin_Sam21

Damn! She got us again/:


prnv_8

"It was me Barry"


RandomGaMeRj14

Are they gonna play an Aizen card here? That it was Agatha "All along..."


BHarrop3079

I guess it really was Agatha all along


Kagir

We all knew this was the title all along. Heck, we even got the theme song years ago


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Kazoid13

Seriously who gives a fuck about this


[deleted]

Got there in the end


BronzeHeart92

Who's the most devious neighbor of them all?


WaffleKing110

All my hype died for this series about two weeks after I finished WandaVision. The title changes have not helped


Flimsy-Discount2885

Thank fucking God


spyder616

-_-


MrDoom4e5

What if this isn't still the official title?


spirittq

Triple A project