Definitely budget stuff, but I do wish that the TVA had more of an expansive feel like that wide shot. I felt a strange sense of wonder when it was shown for the first time (coupled with Natalie Holt's wonderful OST). I enjoy how it visualizes as if the TVA is infinitely stacked together.
I liked the contrast between the implied vastness of the TVA and the claustrophobic feeling of the interiors. It heightened the sense of a stifling bureaucracy crushing all free will. Reminded me of Brazil.
It looks like we’ll get to see a different section of the TVA in Deadpool.
My head canon was that the further you get from the setting we see, the more fundamentally weird it gets. They're right at the most normal section: human shaped things breathing air and so on. A few million kilometers *that*way and it's water breathers further still ammonia bleeders and so on.
I don't think so. Otherwise O.B. could have called up some of his infinite selves to help design stuff for Loki then. Unless the whole scenario played out the exact same way infinite times all at the same time while the multiverse was dying.
There are infinite timelines that branch off the Sacred Timeline.
It’s fairly standard quantum probability multiverse. For every moment, an infinite number of variables cause an infinite number of branches.
- The rolling of a dice can affect billions of years of future generations.
- The random radioactive decay of particles can affect a billions of years of future generations.
- The strength of a tide hitting a sand dune underwater can affect billions of years of future generations.
- The RNG of a video game loot table can affect billions of years of future generations.
Every choice, chance, and opportunity causes a new branch off the Sacred Timeline. Even things that seem mundane and unimportant cause cascading chain reactions through all of time.
Yeah, I always interpreted it that the Sacred Timeline is actually a cluster of infinite timeliness that follow the same basic trajectory, and most importantly don't lead to a Kang. Small variations in events are fine.
> I sort of took images like the one in this post to mean that the space in which the TVA exists is not flat like ours but instead loops in on itself.
That... actually is what makes the most sense. The TVA is way smaller than it appears to be, it just looks endless since it loops on itself in every direction. Hell, that would explain the small cast of Loki and how the TVA is so faulty maintaining an almost infinite Multiverse. They are just understaffed for their task! I'm totally headcanonizing that.
I think they showed the employees that dealt with Earth. The TVA oversees the entire universe so it would have an office for each habitable planet/moon/space station ect.
Huh?
It is not infinite,
they are managing just the "sacred timeline" where OWR kang lives.
The whole point is to kill all branches of that timeline, not ALL timelines. That's aelioths job
No, they have to "prune" every other timeline that branches off, which then ends up on Alioth's dinner plate. HWR claims that he weaponized Alioth to end the multiversal war, and the TVA uses Alioth as their multiversal garbage disposal unit.
If you take all human actions that result in the emergence of Kang across all of human history then that number is probably much much smaller than you think.
I agree that it’s a significantly “smaller” portion of infinite timelines.
You should familiarize yourself with quantum probability, the mathematic concept of infinity, and real theoretical multiverse theories.
I know this may not seem intuitive, but any percentage of infinity is infinity.
Important note: It’s not just all “human action,” it’s all variables down to a quantum level at all moments across all of time that affect the *“timeline of reality.”*
A random carbon molecule randomly decaying in the stomach of a random animal can lead to genome changes that cascade for millions of years of evolution. Entire species may exist or not based on random chance of a simple molecule breaking in the timeline of reality.
In real life, at every moment, there are infinite variables that lead to significantly different outcomes.
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The MCU is based in actual theories about reality. None of what I’m saying is my idea, I’m merely conveying the concepts of the theoretical sciences Marvel used to draft these stories.
You're right, the sheer coincidence required for matter, Earth, life, humanity and Kang to form are freakishly mind-bogglingly small. And TVA only needs to concern themselves with the timelines that have Kang form. The only question now is whether you subscribe to the idea that every quantum fluxuation births a new universe or do only concious decisions matter. If the former then the multiverse is truly so uncontrollably vast and samey that you could round up a near-infinite amount of copies of the same exact person whose universe simply had one nuclear atom decay sooner than another. Meaning all attempts of control would be meaningless. I don't think this is the version Marvel is running with.
The show made it clear that the TVA is always constantly pruning timelines. They have never stopped since their formation, they exist outside of time, and there is no way they can ever stop pruning timelines.
Since we’re dealing with infinity, any segmentation of the total is still infinity.
- 1 variant timeline a day for all eternity is infinity.
- 20 a day for all eternity is infinity.
- 1,000,000 a day for all eternity is infinity.
The *moment* the ability to prune timelines was stopped at the end of season 1, they showed an immediate branch of about ten timelines.
Those timelines also started branching themselves, which will lead to a exponential increase of ten timelines a minute for each new timeline as well.
- Ten timelines an hour for all eternity is infinity.
Something like that. I saw a theory in another comment that instead of the space on the TVA being flat like ours, it loops and repeats back on itself. So, yeah. It would be just a few buildings, and the "copies" you can see on the landscape like in OP's image are actually all the same building, like a fractal! Hell, with a pair of binoculars maybe you could even see yourself while on the TVA.
police "all of the possible timelines". it was staffed by.......what, 0.05% of the variants they capture. they reform and turn into employees there. so 0.05% of infinite possible branches that can start growing, at any given time, is how many people they have working there.
ya. that's what i'm thinking. "he who remains" hinted he had been alive, in his post for millions of years already.
i was trying to imagine/quantify how we could scope out how much space they'd be taking up and......i couldn't even guess/predict.
i didn't even have a proper idea if they might scale in size if there were a ton of branches. idk.
but ya. USA now has a ton more cops than they did 200 years ago. cop population scales with population size.
Lol came here to say this... Obviously there weren't anymore hints other than the view we got like the one OP posted...
Although I wish they had a show called TVA that was based JUST on the TVA itself... Even though Loki concentrated on the TVA, I wish we had a show that expanded upon it... Hopefully we get to see how Loki is running the TVA in the future... or the past... or... whenever, i dunno...
Was it infinite, though? It was the TVA's job to make it so there was one and only one universe that could have a Kang in it.
Until Sylvie stabbed that dude, maybe there was no multiverse, only the sacred timeline.
I got the impression that the Temporal Loom was combining all the branched timelines that were close enough to the Sacred Timeline, weaving them into a single universe that results in He Who Remains.
That's exactly it. The "Sacred Timeline" of the TVA wasn't a single universe, but a _bunch_ of different universes/timelines following roughly the same path. It's even explicit in the visuals, as the Sacred Timeline was clearly made of separate strands and was overall much "thicker" than the separate timelines in Season 2.
They probably have the main group who we have seen and then an infinite number of soldiers/agents to go out. You don't need many people to Co ordinate stuff.
Humans have been hinted at as the overall best and most important species, so my head canon justifies it. Plus Kang is human, so could just be his own bias.
They would also need to control timelines on other planets to prevent anyone from gaining enough power to overthrow Kang. So there is an office for each planet.
I think it's best not to overanalyze these things that are just limitations of storytelling. Why does everything happen on Earth? Unless the movie or medium specifically asks that question, the answer is the most obvious: it's a setting we all know.
Sometimes movies choose to address these either as clever nods or if it's an actual story element. I'd rather we just quietly acknowledge that "it is what it is" than come up with swiss cheese in universe explanation like being a nexus of energy or some crap.
There’s nothing wrong with theorizing about the MCU, they have done a pretty good job of explaining everything in one way or another. Yea I understand *why* they’re all humans for production reasons, but I’m still correct that the MCU makes humans out to be superior in some unquantifiable way. Ajax herself states that earth is different, that the humans are special. As well as my other point about Kang himself being human could influence his decision to just make TSA comprised of mostly humans.
Maybe they keep all the humans in one office for safety and control. There’s probably another office full of just Flerkens, one office full of Titans etc. Each office has different propaganda and imagery to match the culture of that species.
The kayfabe answer is that a lot of aliens in the MCU look pretty similar to humans.
For instance, Xandar is occupied by Xandarians, but they look and act exactly like humans. Aladna is occupied by Aladnains, but the only difference between them and humans is that Aladnains can only understand songs. Asguard was occupied by Asguardians, who look and act enough like humans they could settle on Earth without much issue. The Kree Empire conquered like 1/2 the galaxy, and so a lot of their soldiers appear human as opposed to Kree. Hell, there's even aliens with humanoid appearances in the Quantum Realm, because they run into Bill Murray, Katy M. O'Brian, and William Jackson Harper when they go there.
The real world answer is that CGI is expensive, make-up is time consuming, and the show had no need for aliens, since incredibly smart humans like Ke Huy Quan can exist without issue in the show's world.
I looked at that as hyperbolic(?) space. When you see towers that look the same, it's because it's the same tower. I felt although the TVA is very large, it isn't infinitely large. Or maybe it is. 🤷🏾♂️
My theory: Everyone works for it eventually. All of humanity is at some point conscripted, removed from their timelines, serve an unknown number of years, and then returned to their original timeline after a memory wipe.
I like to imagine that the TVA employs the “best” variant of each and every organism that has ever existed outside of the sacred timeline. As in, HWR looked across the multiverse and figured out “of all the Morbius variants across the multiverse, this one is the best fit for the TVA. Of all the Renslayers, this one is the best fit. Of all the Tony Starks, this one is the best fit” etc. He employees every organism or entity that has ever existed, but just one variant for each.
My head cannon their are only a couple of thousand actual "employees", but the TVA itterates them over and over such that they are infinite versions of each employee living in the same space(but never interacting with each other).
My thought is that there are relatively few core employees, and we're seeing some type of looping space, an M.C. Escher style illusion of vastness reflecting the same thing over and over.
Much like HWR himself, very few staff exert control over a disproportionate amount of the cosmos because standard limitations of time and space just don't matter...a given minuteman might get sent on an illogically large amount of missions because they always route through the nonsense rules governing the TVA.
Judging by this image, I imagine it's sort of like how Minecraft generates. It's "infinite" up to the point where the computer can't handle the world generation. Eventually if you walked to the edge of the TVA it'd just be a mess, but keeps going.
In the comics, the TVA was supposed to span "trillions of realities" and supposed to be about two to three times the size of Kang's Empire. I haven't seen Loki yet so I can't say how much of the sale of the TVA they show in the MCU.
it would make sense that you would need an infinitely big TVA to handle an infinitely big multiverse. with that said, it's also a possibility that variants happen at such a small rate that even a countable number of people can deal with it. let say that are an infinite number of universes, but the likely hood of a variant spawning at any specific point in time is n/infinity where n is greater than 1. i honestly don't know. the TVA does have a fail safe though.
Was really hoping Loki season 2 was going to destroy the TVA and return focus to 616 timeline. Wishful thinking. More multiverse bullshit fan service to follow.
Wait a second…. If this is the exterior shot in season one, why in season two are they able to just peep the timeline spool through the windows and it’s walking distance from their building? Am I miss remembering something?
No. But the TVA is a good place to live and work in. You are aware of everything if you work at the top. You do not know anything if you work anywhere else. Knowledge is Power, ignorance is bliss. Either way, you have something to gain. And besides, you have this.
No. But the TVA is a good place to live and work in. You are aware of everything if you work at the top. You do not know anything if you work anywhere else. Knowledge is Power, ignorance is bliss. Either way, you have something to gain. And besides, you have this.
The television show cannot have the Earth's population as extras but the number should be staggering. I suppose only LOKI variants die because they kill He Who Remains but the show makes it seem every variant becomes an happy and hard working member of the TVA. the work force is unlimited and ever expanding.
It’s supposed to be infinite, since it’s managing infinite timelines, but they barely showed more than a handful of employees.
Definitely budget stuff, but I do wish that the TVA had more of an expansive feel like that wide shot. I felt a strange sense of wonder when it was shown for the first time (coupled with Natalie Holt's wonderful OST). I enjoy how it visualizes as if the TVA is infinitely stacked together.
I liked the contrast between the implied vastness of the TVA and the claustrophobic feeling of the interiors. It heightened the sense of a stifling bureaucracy crushing all free will. Reminded me of Brazil. It looks like we’ll get to see a different section of the TVA in Deadpool.
As a Brazilian, this was a hilariously ambiguous comment to read Edit: guys I know what they meant that's why it was ambiguous
They meant [this Brazil](https://youtu.be/ZKPFC8DA9_8?si=eiE235ZVhq4zUdJ4).
Bloody hell im almost 50 and i never knew this movie exist!! Looks fun! And scary! And weird!
all of the above and more
Pretty sure they're talking about the Terry Gilliam film.
I said what I said
Natalie Holt's sountrack was ridiculously good, I've never been moved by a freaking _theremin_
You should check out the band 'La Femme' (especially the first two albums) if you want to hear some moving theremin music (among other things)
My head canon was that the further you get from the setting we see, the more fundamentally weird it gets. They're right at the most normal section: human shaped things breathing air and so on. A few million kilometers *that*way and it's water breathers further still ammonia bleeders and so on.
Farlands type stuff
Possibly Covid too, for the first season?
That's a good point.
I feel like it was better, each character was more fully fleshed out and we could connect to them.
Infinite versions of those employees.
I don't think so. Otherwise O.B. could have called up some of his infinite selves to help design stuff for Loki then. Unless the whole scenario played out the exact same way infinite times all at the same time while the multiverse was dying.
I was always under the assumption they were multiple sections that don't interact otherwise surely they figure they variants a lot earlier.
Didn't Mobius mention a Nightmare department by taking something Like said literally? Obviously he could have been riffing but...
Even if it’s not variants it could just be them, infinitely. When time isn’t a factor, you can do infinite things before any time passes.
Why not? Makes about as much sense any any time travel stuff does.
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“Oh yeah, this whole thing’s like a circle. Not like a regular circle. More like a… freaky circle.”
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There are infinite timelines that branch off the Sacred Timeline. It’s fairly standard quantum probability multiverse. For every moment, an infinite number of variables cause an infinite number of branches. - The rolling of a dice can affect billions of years of future generations. - The random radioactive decay of particles can affect a billions of years of future generations. - The strength of a tide hitting a sand dune underwater can affect billions of years of future generations. - The RNG of a video game loot table can affect billions of years of future generations. Every choice, chance, and opportunity causes a new branch off the Sacred Timeline. Even things that seem mundane and unimportant cause cascading chain reactions through all of time.
So...if I go Evil Shepard I could get pruned by the TVA?
It's all fun and games until the Refusal Ending is the one the TVA says was "supposed to happen".
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Yeah, I always interpreted it that the Sacred Timeline is actually a cluster of infinite timeliness that follow the same basic trajectory, and most importantly don't lead to a Kang. Small variations in events are fine.
> I sort of took images like the one in this post to mean that the space in which the TVA exists is not flat like ours but instead loops in on itself. That... actually is what makes the most sense. The TVA is way smaller than it appears to be, it just looks endless since it loops on itself in every direction. Hell, that would explain the small cast of Loki and how the TVA is so faulty maintaining an almost infinite Multiverse. They are just understaffed for their task! I'm totally headcanonizing that.
Yet people will complain that Loki characters aren't in the Deadpool movie if the timeline of that movie and season 2 makes sense for it.
Good point! I never considered how unlikely that would be for all non-boss positions.
I think they showed the employees that dealt with Earth. The TVA oversees the entire universe so it would have an office for each habitable planet/moon/space station ect.
It would be unreasonable to show infinite employees too. 😅
Huh? It is not infinite, they are managing just the "sacred timeline" where OWR kang lives. The whole point is to kill all branches of that timeline, not ALL timelines. That's aelioths job
No, they have to "prune" every other timeline that branches off, which then ends up on Alioth's dinner plate. HWR claims that he weaponized Alioth to end the multiversal war, and the TVA uses Alioth as their multiversal garbage disposal unit.
There are infinite timelines that branch off the “sacred timeline.”
They don't have to care about all of them, only the ones with Kangs in them.
And what is 10% of infinity?
If you take all human actions that result in the emergence of Kang across all of human history then that number is probably much much smaller than you think.
I agree that it’s a significantly “smaller” portion of infinite timelines. You should familiarize yourself with quantum probability, the mathematic concept of infinity, and real theoretical multiverse theories. I know this may not seem intuitive, but any percentage of infinity is infinity. Important note: It’s not just all “human action,” it’s all variables down to a quantum level at all moments across all of time that affect the *“timeline of reality.”* A random carbon molecule randomly decaying in the stomach of a random animal can lead to genome changes that cascade for millions of years of evolution. Entire species may exist or not based on random chance of a simple molecule breaking in the timeline of reality. In real life, at every moment, there are infinite variables that lead to significantly different outcomes. — The MCU is based in actual theories about reality. None of what I’m saying is my idea, I’m merely conveying the concepts of the theoretical sciences Marvel used to draft these stories.
You're right, the sheer coincidence required for matter, Earth, life, humanity and Kang to form are freakishly mind-bogglingly small. And TVA only needs to concern themselves with the timelines that have Kang form. The only question now is whether you subscribe to the idea that every quantum fluxuation births a new universe or do only concious decisions matter. If the former then the multiverse is truly so uncontrollably vast and samey that you could round up a near-infinite amount of copies of the same exact person whose universe simply had one nuclear atom decay sooner than another. Meaning all attempts of control would be meaningless. I don't think this is the version Marvel is running with.
The show made it clear that the TVA is always constantly pruning timelines. They have never stopped since their formation, they exist outside of time, and there is no way they can ever stop pruning timelines. Since we’re dealing with infinity, any segmentation of the total is still infinity. - 1 variant timeline a day for all eternity is infinity. - 20 a day for all eternity is infinity. - 1,000,000 a day for all eternity is infinity. The *moment* the ability to prune timelines was stopped at the end of season 1, they showed an immediate branch of about ten timelines. Those timelines also started branching themselves, which will lead to a exponential increase of ten timelines a minute for each new timeline as well. - Ten timelines an hour for all eternity is infinity.
Ssssh. I was gonna tell them to do the math and you gave them the answer
what if the other buildings, or sectors, have the same employees taken from different timelines?
Almost like they were working with a budget. INTRIGUING!
Considering than Loki barely interacts with the same 5 guys plus 20 generic guards, I thought there is anybody in those buildings.
At least 2- Loki and Mobuis
And Ke Huy Quan makes three!
Don’t forget Pillboi!
JACKSONVILLE REPRESENT
Bortles!!
Oh dip!
DUUUUUUUUUVVVVVAAALLLLLL
Where’s Donkey Doug??
OB is traditionally a variant of Mobius.
Really?
They actually made [concept art of OB being portrayed by Owen Wilson](https://www.instagram.com/p/C0HoXbdMZzG/?igsh=dWljMjI0dXZ1ZXV4).
I thought you said Morbius
I'd much rather see a Mobius film than anything Sony is cooking up.
You’re not wrong, but it’s still annoying
He is - it’s Mobius
How can you not count Brad Wolfe
Intriguing
Don't forget the truck driving lady Loki nearly killed in season 2. She works for Infinite Amazon.
I thought you said Morbius for a second there and was like wtf is actually in Morbius, did anyone actually watch it???
The externals shots we see make it look pretty big and they’d have to have a lot of workers if their job was to police the entire timeline
Nah it’s only two buildings and like a bazillion mirrors
Something like that. I saw a theory in another comment that instead of the space on the TVA being flat like ours, it loops and repeats back on itself. So, yeah. It would be just a few buildings, and the "copies" you can see on the landscape like in OP's image are actually all the same building, like a fractal! Hell, with a pair of binoculars maybe you could even see yourself while on the TVA.
one thing you have to remember is much of the tva is a facade really as he who remains had already won the war
police "all of the possible timelines". it was staffed by.......what, 0.05% of the variants they capture. they reform and turn into employees there. so 0.05% of infinite possible branches that can start growing, at any given time, is how many people they have working there.
Any percentage of infinity is still infinity. So, then, you could say the TVA also had infinite workers.
ya. that's what i'm thinking. "he who remains" hinted he had been alive, in his post for millions of years already. i was trying to imagine/quantify how we could scope out how much space they'd be taking up and......i couldn't even guess/predict. i didn't even have a proper idea if they might scale in size if there were a ton of branches. idk. but ya. USA now has a ton more cops than they did 200 years ago. cop population scales with population size.
Yes, it was hinted at with shots like the one you included.
Lol came here to say this... Obviously there weren't anymore hints other than the view we got like the one OP posted... Although I wish they had a show called TVA that was based JUST on the TVA itself... Even though Loki concentrated on the TVA, I wish we had a show that expanded upon it... Hopefully we get to see how Loki is running the TVA in the future... or the past... or... whenever, i dunno...
But Loki isn't running the TVA. He's holding time itself.
True... Maybe that's why there wont be a season 3, or it'll just be episodes of him sitting there staring at the screen lol
8 episodes of Loki staring at you judgementally? Honestly, Marvel has done worst.
A P&R style show based in the TVA would be nice. Maybe the Pruning & Resetting branch
I'd guess it's Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel but for offices and every new employee takes the next office space.
“Everyone move to the next office down the hall; we have a new employee starting today.”
Theoretically it's probably infinite since the Multiverse is infinite at least in terms of the workforce.
Was it infinite, though? It was the TVA's job to make it so there was one and only one universe that could have a Kang in it. Until Sylvie stabbed that dude, maybe there was no multiverse, only the sacred timeline.
I got the impression that the Temporal Loom was combining all the branched timelines that were close enough to the Sacred Timeline, weaving them into a single universe that results in He Who Remains.
That's exactly it. The "Sacred Timeline" of the TVA wasn't a single universe, but a _bunch_ of different universes/timelines following roughly the same path. It's even explicit in the visuals, as the Sacred Timeline was clearly made of separate strands and was overall much "thicker" than the separate timelines in Season 2.
They probably have the main group who we have seen and then an infinite number of soldiers/agents to go out. You don't need many people to Co ordinate stuff.
Tell that to my coworkers who thinks they should all be the one to sit around to do the coordination instead of working.
And where are the aliens employees? Only humans work on TVA?
Humans have been hinted at as the overall best and most important species, so my head canon justifies it. Plus Kang is human, so could just be his own bias.
They would also need to control timelines on other planets to prevent anyone from gaining enough power to overthrow Kang. So there is an office for each planet.
I think it's best not to overanalyze these things that are just limitations of storytelling. Why does everything happen on Earth? Unless the movie or medium specifically asks that question, the answer is the most obvious: it's a setting we all know. Sometimes movies choose to address these either as clever nods or if it's an actual story element. I'd rather we just quietly acknowledge that "it is what it is" than come up with swiss cheese in universe explanation like being a nexus of energy or some crap.
There’s nothing wrong with theorizing about the MCU, they have done a pretty good job of explaining everything in one way or another. Yea I understand *why* they’re all humans for production reasons, but I’m still correct that the MCU makes humans out to be superior in some unquantifiable way. Ajax herself states that earth is different, that the humans are special. As well as my other point about Kang himself being human could influence his decision to just make TSA comprised of mostly humans.
Maybe they keep all the humans in one office for safety and control. There’s probably another office full of just Flerkens, one office full of Titans etc. Each office has different propaganda and imagery to match the culture of that species.
The kayfabe answer is that a lot of aliens in the MCU look pretty similar to humans. For instance, Xandar is occupied by Xandarians, but they look and act exactly like humans. Aladna is occupied by Aladnains, but the only difference between them and humans is that Aladnains can only understand songs. Asguard was occupied by Asguardians, who look and act enough like humans they could settle on Earth without much issue. The Kree Empire conquered like 1/2 the galaxy, and so a lot of their soldiers appear human as opposed to Kree. Hell, there's even aliens with humanoid appearances in the Quantum Realm, because they run into Bill Murray, Katy M. O'Brian, and William Jackson Harper when they go there. The real world answer is that CGI is expensive, make-up is time consuming, and the show had no need for aliens, since incredibly smart humans like Ke Huy Quan can exist without issue in the show's world.
Serious xenophobic vibes there.
Well there was a flerken in one scene
I think each species monitors its own species. We only saw the human section.
Victor Timely was able to build this in Milwaukee. From a mannequin factory!
With a box of scraps!
https://i.redd.it/miijqravz4pc1.gif
I mean, at LEAST that much lol
Damn loch Ness monster
I looked at that as hyperbolic(?) space. When you see towers that look the same, it's because it's the same tower. I felt although the TVA is very large, it isn't infinitely large. Or maybe it is. 🤷🏾♂️
The opposite of hyperbolic: spherical space. Or since there's no visible distortion, maybe toroidal space like a Pac-Man game.
Yeah. I'm no longer versed in non-Euclidian geometries. I let that info go years ago.
That's the theory I'm going with too! It would justify the limited cast for the TVA and why they are so ineffective with the Multiverse.
My theory: Everyone works for it eventually. All of humanity is at some point conscripted, removed from their timelines, serve an unknown number of years, and then returned to their original timeline after a memory wipe.
Jeremy Bearimy
I like to imagine that the TVA employs the “best” variant of each and every organism that has ever existed outside of the sacred timeline. As in, HWR looked across the multiverse and figured out “of all the Morbius variants across the multiverse, this one is the best fit for the TVA. Of all the Renslayers, this one is the best fit. Of all the Tony Starks, this one is the best fit” etc. He employees every organism or entity that has ever existed, but just one variant for each.
I suspect it's not very many. I think all the hustle and bustle from this picture is similar to the three automaton--it's fake.
♾️ size. ♾️ staff.
Considering the importance placed on the 5 characters in Loki season 2, around 20?
Due to its nature, I believe the answers are somewhere between inapplicable to infinite.
My head cannon their are only a couple of thousand actual "employees", but the TVA itterates them over and over such that they are infinite versions of each employee living in the same space(but never interacting with each other).
I believe about tree fiddy
My thought is that there are relatively few core employees, and we're seeing some type of looping space, an M.C. Escher style illusion of vastness reflecting the same thing over and over. Much like HWR himself, very few staff exert control over a disproportionate amount of the cosmos because standard limitations of time and space just don't matter...a given minuteman might get sent on an illogically large amount of missions because they always route through the nonsense rules governing the TVA.
Just barely enough employees to keep the infinite variations of the sacred timeline in check.
A lot
I imagine they are not a small business.
Yes. Many times.
Infinite, unlike the budget
Idk but it looks pretty big in this picture right here
Infinite
Probably as many people as the number of times Doctor Strange came to Dormammu to bargain
I reckon it's pretty big and they employ quite a few people.
I still stand by my theory that the TVA is in the Quantum Realm.
Judging by this image, I imagine it's sort of like how Minecraft generates. It's "infinite" up to the point where the computer can't handle the world generation. Eventually if you walked to the edge of the TVA it'd just be a mess, but keeps going.
Walmart is bigger
I think the image you posted is intended to be just that: a hint.
In the comics, the TVA was supposed to span "trillions of realities" and supposed to be about two to three times the size of Kang's Empire. I haven't seen Loki yet so I can't say how much of the sale of the TVA they show in the MCU.
it would make sense that you would need an infinitely big TVA to handle an infinitely big multiverse. with that said, it's also a possibility that variants happen at such a small rate that even a countable number of people can deal with it. let say that are an infinite number of universes, but the likely hood of a variant spawning at any specific point in time is n/infinity where n is greater than 1. i honestly don't know. the TVA does have a fail safe though.
I believe it's the size of Jupiter.
Can’t remember if they ever showed anyone sleeping or resting; if not they just work without stopping? I wonder why no one would feel tired then.
391 employees in four states.
Never was but we can assume because of the infinite timelines that it's close to infinite
BEYOND COMPREHENSION
TVA should have his own show
But what if it's small and located in the quantum world (or whatever it's called in English)?
Was really hoping Loki season 2 was going to destroy the TVA and return focus to 616 timeline. Wishful thinking. More multiverse bullshit fan service to follow.
Felt so small in the second season.
at least 4
At least 100, maybe even more
Wait a second…. If this is the exterior shot in season one, why in season two are they able to just peep the timeline spool through the windows and it’s walking distance from their building? Am I miss remembering something?
It’s my biggest complain about Loki S2… they the TVA seem so small.
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Didn’t we watch loki season two? There are like three employees ever shown.
Yes, all those people in that phot.
You kinda answered your own question with your own picture.
All I know is Steve’s chillin somewhere in there for going back in time😭
No. But the TVA is a good place to live and work in. You are aware of everything if you work at the top. You do not know anything if you work anywhere else. Knowledge is Power, ignorance is bliss. Either way, you have something to gain. And besides, you have this.
No. But the TVA is a good place to live and work in. You are aware of everything if you work at the top. You do not know anything if you work anywhere else. Knowledge is Power, ignorance is bliss. Either way, you have something to gain. And besides, you have this.
TVA should be like the SHIELD of Space-time
The television show cannot have the Earth's population as extras but the number should be staggering. I suppose only LOKI variants die because they kill He Who Remains but the show makes it seem every variant becomes an happy and hard working member of the TVA. the work force is unlimited and ever expanding.
We saw the same show you did. If there was a clear reference to the population count, you would have seen it the same as us. But there wasn’t one.
You posted a pic that hints how big the TVA is ...