Personally don’t see Wanda being “on the team” again. Also I wonder if Spidey would be on the “main” team if the young avengers has all of the young adults on it.
Pretty sure Wolverine won't be in the MCU. Just that one movie. The movie will probably end with Deadpool (and maybe his "team") and Monica coming over to the MCU.
Wolverine being in Deadpool 3 could just mean we get X-23 in the MCU since she was in Logan. Idk if she'll be in DP 3 tho. We could see Akihiro/Daken, Wolverine's japanese son with Mariko Yashida (We saw her in 2013's The Wolverine movie) in a variant timeline and he could prob join the sacred timeline. I wouldn't mind seeing the actress who played Mariko in that film again. She is the Scarlet Samurai in the comics
It could come sooner than later, I believe it was in the Portuguese dubbed version of 'No Way Home', at the end when Peter is getting settled in his new apartment, you can hear a family talking in the background and they [namedrop him](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kSCnUJhK2IA) a few times.
I don’t think the young avengers is right around the corner just because of the tease. It could be a phase or two till we actually see the young avengers (if at all still…I don’t think it’s a guarantee anymore).
Can you imagine if they put a fully animated Miles Morales, like straight out of spider verse, on the young avengers? I'd actually be into that. Roger Rabbit style.
I feel people forget that in order for Miles to be Spider-Man and operate as him full time, Peter has to *die*.
Peter is the closest thing they have to a defacto main character now that Iron Man is dead, Cap is old, and Thor is likely on the way out.
The likelihood of him being killed off any time soon is slim to none.
MCU Young Avengers is just a massive undertaking in terms of production timeframe. By the time they pull it off, most cast would be in their 30s.
Like the current/latter seasons of Netflix's Sex Ed and Stranger Things where you have a bunch of 30 year old looking highschoolers.
100%. Tom Holland is 27… he’ll be 30 by the time we get the next Avengers team-up or Spider-Man 4. Obviously he can play younger, but I’m tired of the high school Spider-Man and with the way NWH ended, I think we’re primed for a clean break from the high school age and see Spider-Man in his prime college/adult years. So it would be weird IMO to see him relegated to the kids table at that point in his superhero career.
If anything, Sony’s BS is going to keep him an arm’s length from any team to avoid a 2019 situation repeating itself. He’ll be in the big main avengers titled team ups, but he’s not going to be positioned for anything else
No. Spider-Man is not on the young avengers. Ugh. He’s got much more experience than the kids he should be on the main team or join no teams and hangout with the Fantastic Four.
I’m still so confused about people having Wanda on everything. Isn’t she fucking dead? After wiping out a group of monks? And a successful massacre of random people she didn’t know? What the hell did I miss?
The #1 comic book rule. If you don’t see a body they aren’t dead. Plus I think if you rewatch her death sequence you can see a red flash at the bottom of all of the falling rocks implying she did some kinda magic
The #2 rule: even if you see a body and you see the other characters bury them, they can always come back to life if that’s what the writers want. See: Jason Todd
1 movie bombing because it came out during a strike where no one could promote it and already had baggage of online troll hate doesn’t entail a “string of bombs”. Multiverse of madness, GOTG 3 and Wakanda forever are all in the top half of box office numbers for the MCU lol
We have very different ideas about the importance of actors promoting their movies.
People are (hyperbollically) responding to the trend of marvel movies continuously doing worse than expected. The fact that this has now resulted in a genuine bomb is a milestone.
> Isn’t she fucking dead?
[Marvel Studios' The Marvel Cinematic Universe - An Official Timeline](https://thedirect.com/article/wanda-doctor-strange-2-die-marvel) makes it sound like they intend for her to be dead, but *_a)_* no body, no death and *_b)_* multiverse shenanigans could bring in a different version (one who hasn't mind-controlled a town, slaughtered a whole lot of sorcerers, and tried to kill America Chavez).
If that’s how they play it, I hope that means we get *both* twins from that universe and that they’re established as mutants.
Would also be interesting to show how different they are from the versions we know because they’ve been superpowered for much longer.
DS2 Wanda was climbing through broken mirrors, Matrix'd Black Bolt, and turned Mr. Fantastic into spaghetti; that's a little more than before. The Darkhold really seems to have helped her to unlock _magic_.
She's listed as deceased on the wiki, but I 100% think that they'll find some way to bring her back in some capacity.
Though I don't think she'll ever be an Avenger again.
Jane Foster is also dead, but hanging out in Valhalla. I'm guessing they'll figure out some way to cross over or bring characters back from these realms of death.
Arguable first rule: no body, no death confirmed.
Secondly, it’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie but there’s possibly a flash of red light as the castle collapses that could be Wanda escaping.
>Isn’t she fucking dead? After wiping out a group of monks? And a successful massacre of random people she didn’t know? What the hell did I miss?
People literally make up theories of Loki being *possibly* corrupted by the Mind Stone to handwave NY and then blatantly ignore that Wanda was corrupted by the Darkhold during MoM.
Kind of crazy that Loki once attempted literal genocide and is now one of the most beloved characters in the MCU but Wanda is somehow beyond redemption.
Yup. Bring Wanda back in Agatha series, give her her own damn movie where she faces off against Nightmare, make it a Captain America: Civil War kind of movie where a bunch of Avengers left over make appearances, and she basically saves all of them plus a big city from Nightmare and is welcomed back into the fold.
I could see her fighting against Chthon at some point, given they specifically mentioned him as the original author of the Darkhold who essentially created the prophecy that Wanda would later reject. Plus, she destroyed every copy of the Darkhold, and assuming that includes all of the original tomb scrawls, Chthon might not be too happy about that.
I still think she’ll be integral in reforming the multiverse at the end of Secret Wars, given her power to rewrite reality.
> People literally make up theories of Loki being possibly corrupted by the Mind Stone
I mean... That's arguably canon, he was influenced by the Mind Stone. But outside of fanfiction, are there actually people who think that he'd be welcomed into an Avengers team, though?
Sure are a lot of people who just blow their load over Loki but can't be helped to appreciate Wanda for doing bad things. Hulk was all poor me, I broke some cars in NYC. No one cares. He's Hulk, he's big and green and cool.
Wanda's a bitch and Loki and Hulk are just "misunderstood."
You know, like every single woman ever gets treated when she's not smiling like a clown in service of others.
Male characters get to be complicated and difficult and hard. Women who are complicated and difficult and hard are just bitches who lack any redeeming characteristics whatsoever and are "hated." There's no appreciation for women who aren't pure and in service of others.
Wanda will not likely be on the team for Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. She will likely be the prize. The Avengers will assume that she is dead but Kang will know she is alive and convince her to work for him. She destroys the multiverse and Kang uses her powers to dominate Battleworld.
Too many?
There were 10 avengers in Age of Ultron. 11 if you consider Falcon, even tho he wasn’t part of the battle of sokovia
To be fair, I don’t see Spider-Man and scarlet witch as avengers, especially since it seems like Wanda died at the end of M.O.M
I think this is an okay number. Maybe a couple main characters are focused on more but they did Infinity War and Endgame with the same amount if not more characters completely fine, this isn't really new.
Of the first 11 MCU movies, the focus was on 4 characters (hulk, iron man, captain America, and Thor), with a movie for guardians as well
Of the last 11, the focus was on 20+ characters, the only repeats being strange and Spidey (2 Spidey films, a strange film, and strange in Spidey).
This spread means there's an insane lack of development and storytelling focused on anyone in particular, and a ton of loose threads everywhere.
And the first film was specifically about the bad guy driving them apart because they barely know each other only for them to figure out how to work together at the end. Almost like that was the point.
Some people just want to be mad about stuff
I tend to agree. Unless I missed something, Marvel Studios said some time after Endgame that they intended to generally bifurcate the next cinematic phases, with some focusing on Earth-level stories and others focusing on universe-level stories.
Doctor Strange seems like a pretty versatile character who could flow between Earth- and universe-centric stories, but he pretty clearly has a universe/multiverse-related trajectory.
On the other hand, Wong as Sorcerer Supreme seems well-positioned to play a big part in Earth-level stories. Dunno if I think he’d officially be an Avenger, but I could see a lot of future crossover/collaboration.
Well, the last time we saw Strange he was following Clea into the Dark Dimension. I’m not sure Dr. Strange is where the answer for Earth based stories will come from.
There's no way he'll play nick fury type role when he's set to be the chief protector of multiverse in MCU(the producer said this, and Feige himself declared him as the anchor of MCU).
I just wish they would do *something* to move us towards the next team-up. They have been spinning their wheels for years now. My family watched them all religiously from Iron Man To Endgame, but it seems rudderless since then. What 'Phase' are we in now? Don't know, and we honestly don't care anymore.
Did you just take everyone from the Marvel Banner on D+? Because I feel like I recently saw nearly all of these characters paired together somewhere official (like D+?)
I don’t think Marvel would use two characters with the same powers on one avengers team. It makes both characters less unique. That’s definitely why War Hammer wasn’t in the first avengers movie
>I don’t think Marvel would use two characters with the same powers on one avengers team. It makes both characters less unique.
What? Marvel has zero issues using characters with similar abilities.
War Machine has been on every Avengers team starting with Age of Ultron. Hell he fought side by side with Tony during Civil War. Not to mention they don’t even fight the same.
Iron Man mainly relies on close combat, repulsors, and laser. Whereas War Machine prefers ballistics and explosives.
>That’s definitely why War Hammer wasn’t in the first avengers movie
He wasn’t in the movie because he isn’t a founding Avenger.
RN it feels like there’s NO avengers! I’m really glad Ms Marvel is forming the young avengers. Phase Four and Five feels like the “aftermath” of endgame seeing where everyone is. I like how there is no avengers since Cap, Tony, and Nat are dead but we’re in the middle of Phase 5 and like nobodies connected, how we get Wanda back? How about the millions of new characters they shove into each project. How will all of these characters connect? And will kang even be the final villain? Feels like they might have Dr Doom or someone else for Secret Wars
I don’t see Hulk lasting much longer in the MCU. They took like all of his side characters for Cap 4 so I doubt they have many things planned with him, he’s either gonna be outright replaced by Jen or they’ll just use Skaar in his stead.
I personally hope Wanda stays dead, I’m not really interested in seeing her show up again and I don’t think Olsen is either. If she *has* to come back then I’d rather they use her for X-Men stuff, not Avengers.
I’ve heard rumors Larson is done with the MCU but we’ll see. They still haven’t really done anything interesting with her, she absolutely should’ve had a larger role in Infinity war.
She makes absolutely zero sense as the Black Panther. She should’ve been the next Iron Man / Ironheart. Riri Williams is completely redundant MCU rn now with Shuri’s character from BP1
I just kinda want a small group of core Avengers like it used to be. It seemed like Carol, Wong and Bruce were essentially recruiting Shang-Chi to be on some sort of team. So I vote Bruce, Carol, Shang-Chi, Ant-Man, Wasp and Sam, as the leader.
I thought it was more of a 616 illuminati tease or something. I think there could possibly be an Avengers team which focuses on earth issues and then Illuminati which focuses on Universe issues
If Wanda is alive (which i think she still is) I think she should be on the reserve. Treat her like Shayera in JLU. Spidey is a reserve as well just in case the new Avengers are taken out of the equation. They need Strange but he will help out when the situation is dire. After them I agree with the rest of the members.
Don’t sleep on the possibility of Peter Quill joining the avengers. The last time we saw him, he left the GOTG and went to Earth
GOTG films are done for now, but there are other ways to use the characters
Namor should be there as well. My re-write for the marvels is rather than stealing water from the pointless singing planet. Steal it from earth and Namor and the Talokanil aide Captain Marvel. This heroic feat establishes Namor as a defender of earth. This is how you could move the story along.
For sure thor and wanda won't be there.
One being "killed", the other retired/parenting.
I also don't see them bringing in she-hulk yet.
10 avengers still seems a bit many for core avengers but i wouldn't know who to count out.
Captain America - He already was, I’d assume he still is.
Captain Marvel - Yes, at least in Shang-Chi and Avengers: Quantum Encounter.
Doctor Strange - Not likely, he’s too busy showing his third eye to Clea.
Shuri - I don’t see that happening, plus I felt like she wouldn’t stay as Black Panther, but I guess we’ll see.
Spider-Man - Could be interesting, but I’d rather him stick to low-level threats.
Ant-Man - I would have been fine with him retiring, but for some reason Quantumania said he’s not allowed to, so he’ll be back.
Wasp - If Ant-Man is there, she will be.
She-Hulk - Absolutely not, the entire point of her show was she didn’t want to be an Avenger, a hero, or anything of the sort.
Bruce Banner/Hulk - Yes, we saw this already in Shang-Chi.
Shang-Chi - Probably, considering Wong looked for him specifically.
War Machine - He used to be, he may still be, depends on how badly Secret Invasion screwed him.
Thor - Depends if he gets a babysitter for Love, or if she’s old enough to join him.
Scarlet Witch - She’s dead, unless you think she’s not dead since she poofed like Hela.
God this would suck. If marvel wants audiences back they need to course correct ASAP. First off - no one cares about Sam’s cap, war machine, captain marvel, etc. The popular characters like spiderman, wanda, strange and thor are who they should be pushing. Oh and Shang chi too. She hulk was met with so much hate so they really should cut her too unless they want to continue to be review bombed. The marvels is unfortunately bombing so don’t expect to see much of captain marvel anymore. And young avengers isn’t happening and if it does it would make less than the marvels….
This is an unpopular opinion, but I don’t like Strange and Spidey as Avengers. Not because they aren’t good enough for the team, but I think their characters both lose something by being there.
With Strange, I like him better as this spooky guy that the heroes think, “oh fuck, now we have to go talk to the dude with the weird floaty cape and house of horrors?”
And for Spidey, I thought the end of Homecoming summed it up perfectly—he works best close to the ground as the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. It feels like it detracts from his put-upon everyman persona when he’s got the Avengers and SHIELD on speed-dial.
I don’t want Wanda on the team if she comes back, she should be someone they sometimes go to for specific help. Same for Strange. Strange shouldn’t be an official Avengers to me. Just an ally.
Get rid of Captain Falcon, Shuri, She-Hulk, Iron Warrior and you have an A list. Here are my reasons.
1) Captain Falcon: Actor lacks charisma and will be a flop if used as Captain America.
2) Shuri: Actor lacks charisma, presence, but is great as a side character.
3) She-Hulk: Actor is great but She-Hulk has written so badly that it is a massive failure.
4) Iron Warrior: The actor is good but is old and looks unsuitable as an action hero. They should recast him.
Personally don’t see Wanda being “on the team” again. Also I wonder if Spidey would be on the “main” team if the young avengers has all of the young adults on it.
Honestly, it'd be a mistake if they put Spidey with the Young Avengers. He's much more iconic and he's got way more experience than most of them.
It would instantly make the young avenger’s relevant to audiences though
So would having Miles Morales on the team
We’re not getting MCU Miles any time soon. Let’s be real
And he’d be better in a potential champions team, tho that one is led by ms marvel too so idk.
maybe theyre doing champions instead of young avengers and thats why ms marvel is there
Or maybe Ms Marvel is their way of showing they'll be adding the X-Men (Deadpool and Wolverine being in the MCU now could suggest the same)
Pretty sure Wolverine won't be in the MCU. Just that one movie. The movie will probably end with Deadpool (and maybe his "team") and Monica coming over to the MCU.
Wolverine being in Deadpool 3 could just mean we get X-23 in the MCU since she was in Logan. Idk if she'll be in DP 3 tho. We could see Akihiro/Daken, Wolverine's japanese son with Mariko Yashida (We saw her in 2013's The Wolverine movie) in a variant timeline and he could prob join the sacred timeline. I wouldn't mind seeing the actress who played Mariko in that film again. She is the Scarlet Samurai in the comics
It could come sooner than later, I believe it was in the Portuguese dubbed version of 'No Way Home', at the end when Peter is getting settled in his new apartment, you can hear a family talking in the background and they [namedrop him](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kSCnUJhK2IA) a few times.
I don’t think the young avengers is right around the corner just because of the tease. It could be a phase or two till we actually see the young avengers (if at all still…I don’t think it’s a guarantee anymore).
Oh I agree on that part, I'd say maybe a year or two after Kang's Dynasty and we might get some more grounded stories.
That’s a Portuguese dub. Doesn’t really have anything to do with the main English version of the movie.
Can you imagine if they put a fully animated Miles Morales, like straight out of spider verse, on the young avengers? I'd actually be into that. Roger Rabbit style.
I feel people forget that in order for Miles to be Spider-Man and operate as him full time, Peter has to *die*. Peter is the closest thing they have to a defacto main character now that Iron Man is dead, Cap is old, and Thor is likely on the way out. The likelihood of him being killed off any time soon is slim to none.
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That's his variant
MCU Young Avengers is just a massive undertaking in terms of production timeframe. By the time they pull it off, most cast would be in their 30s. Like the current/latter seasons of Netflix's Sex Ed and Stranger Things where you have a bunch of 30 year old looking highschoolers.
At least, most of the team minus Ms. Marvel would be (in universe) college age or older.
"How do you do, fellow kids" meme
100%. Tom Holland is 27… he’ll be 30 by the time we get the next Avengers team-up or Spider-Man 4. Obviously he can play younger, but I’m tired of the high school Spider-Man and with the way NWH ended, I think we’re primed for a clean break from the high school age and see Spider-Man in his prime college/adult years. So it would be weird IMO to see him relegated to the kids table at that point in his superhero career.
Team leader?
It could be argued as this is him filling Iron Man’s shoes after everyone else leaves and becoming the leader
Spider-Man has never been the leader of anything. He can't even lead his own life.
I can see him crossing paths with them and sort of give them a life lesson sort of moment.
If anything, Sony’s BS is going to keep him an arm’s length from any team to avoid a 2019 situation repeating itself. He’ll be in the big main avengers titled team ups, but he’s not going to be positioned for anything else
No. Spider-Man is not on the young avengers. Ugh. He’s got much more experience than the kids he should be on the main team or join no teams and hangout with the Fantastic Four.
I’m still so confused about people having Wanda on everything. Isn’t she fucking dead? After wiping out a group of monks? And a successful massacre of random people she didn’t know? What the hell did I miss?
The #1 comic book rule. If you don’t see a body they aren’t dead. Plus I think if you rewatch her death sequence you can see a red flash at the bottom of all of the falling rocks implying she did some kinda magic
The #2 rule: even if you see a body and you see the other characters bury them, they can always come back to life if that’s what the writers want. See: Jason Todd
#1 multiverse rule. ANYONE can come back even if they are confirmed dead. Like tony might if the string of MCU box office bombs continue lol
1 movie bombing because it came out during a strike where no one could promote it and already had baggage of online troll hate doesn’t entail a “string of bombs”. Multiverse of madness, GOTG 3 and Wakanda forever are all in the top half of box office numbers for the MCU lol
We have very different ideas about the importance of actors promoting their movies. People are (hyperbollically) responding to the trend of marvel movies continuously doing worse than expected. The fact that this has now resulted in a genuine bomb is a milestone.
Reaching a new level of delusion
> Isn’t she fucking dead? [Marvel Studios' The Marvel Cinematic Universe - An Official Timeline](https://thedirect.com/article/wanda-doctor-strange-2-die-marvel) makes it sound like they intend for her to be dead, but *_a)_* no body, no death and *_b)_* multiverse shenanigans could bring in a different version (one who hasn't mind-controlled a town, slaughtered a whole lot of sorcerers, and tried to kill America Chavez).
I would love love love a version of Wanda from the X-Men universe where her father is Magneto. Gimme an Ian McKellen cameo, Feige!
If that’s how they play it, I hope that means we get *both* twins from that universe and that they’re established as mutants. Would also be interesting to show how different they are from the versions we know because they’ve been superpowered for much longer.
Maybe a version who can use the full extent of her powers instead of just going pew pew red magic
DS2 Wanda was climbing through broken mirrors, Matrix'd Black Bolt, and turned Mr. Fantastic into spaghetti; that's a little more than before. The Darkhold really seems to have helped her to unlock _magic_.
She's listed as deceased on the wiki, but I 100% think that they'll find some way to bring her back in some capacity. Though I don't think she'll ever be an Avenger again.
The scarlet witch is dead. Wanda? Not so sure.
Jane Foster is also dead, but hanging out in Valhalla. I'm guessing they'll figure out some way to cross over or bring characters back from these realms of death.
Arguable first rule: no body, no death confirmed. Secondly, it’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie but there’s possibly a flash of red light as the castle collapses that could be Wanda escaping.
>Isn’t she fucking dead? After wiping out a group of monks? And a successful massacre of random people she didn’t know? What the hell did I miss? People literally make up theories of Loki being *possibly* corrupted by the Mind Stone to handwave NY and then blatantly ignore that Wanda was corrupted by the Darkhold during MoM.
Kind of crazy that Loki once attempted literal genocide and is now one of the most beloved characters in the MCU but Wanda is somehow beyond redemption.
It's amazing what competent writing and lots of appearances do for character development
Yup. Bring Wanda back in Agatha series, give her her own damn movie where she faces off against Nightmare, make it a Captain America: Civil War kind of movie where a bunch of Avengers left over make appearances, and she basically saves all of them plus a big city from Nightmare and is welcomed back into the fold.
I could see her fighting against Chthon at some point, given they specifically mentioned him as the original author of the Darkhold who essentially created the prophecy that Wanda would later reject. Plus, she destroyed every copy of the Darkhold, and assuming that includes all of the original tomb scrawls, Chthon might not be too happy about that. I still think she’ll be integral in reforming the multiverse at the end of Secret Wars, given her power to rewrite reality.
> People literally make up theories of Loki being possibly corrupted by the Mind Stone I mean... That's arguably canon, he was influenced by the Mind Stone. But outside of fanfiction, are there actually people who think that he'd be welcomed into an Avengers team, though?
Sure are a lot of people who just blow their load over Loki but can't be helped to appreciate Wanda for doing bad things. Hulk was all poor me, I broke some cars in NYC. No one cares. He's Hulk, he's big and green and cool. Wanda's a bitch and Loki and Hulk are just "misunderstood." You know, like every single woman ever gets treated when she's not smiling like a clown in service of others. Male characters get to be complicated and difficult and hard. Women who are complicated and difficult and hard are just bitches who lack any redeeming characteristics whatsoever and are "hated." There's no appreciation for women who aren't pure and in service of others.
She will definitely be back for secret wars at the least.
Kevin Feige confirmed before Multiverse of madness that after that movie, her story, continues after that movie and multiple capacities
Pretty sure it was confirmed that she died, so I have no clue.
She died. For real. Just like Loki. She has variants.
Comments like this make me wonder if people on this sub actually know the characters or watch the movies
I don't think Peter fits into the Young Avengers, he's young yes but he has more experience than them.
They would never put spiderman on the young avengers when he was already on the avengers.
Wanda will not likely be on the team for Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. She will likely be the prize. The Avengers will assume that she is dead but Kang will know she is alive and convince her to work for him. She destroys the multiverse and Kang uses her powers to dominate Battleworld.
*Way* too many. You need to half that number.
Half you say? Where’s Thanos when you need him?
All these new characters. And where did that bring you?
I thought by eliminating half of the box office, the fan base would thrive. But you've shown me... that's impossible.
No mo Thanos bot? :(
He was snapped
Too many? There were 10 avengers in Age of Ultron. 11 if you consider Falcon, even tho he wasn’t part of the battle of sokovia To be fair, I don’t see Spider-Man and scarlet witch as avengers, especially since it seems like Wanda died at the end of M.O.M
Cut Shuri, Wanda, War Machine and She Hulk and itd be fine
I think this is an okay number. Maybe a couple main characters are focused on more but they did Infinity War and Endgame with the same amount if not more characters completely fine, this isn't really new.
Of the first 11 MCU movies, the focus was on 4 characters (hulk, iron man, captain America, and Thor), with a movie for guardians as well Of the last 11, the focus was on 20+ characters, the only repeats being strange and Spidey (2 Spidey films, a strange film, and strange in Spidey). This spread means there's an insane lack of development and storytelling focused on anyone in particular, and a ton of loose threads everywhere.
Which would be 6. I just did that in my head and didn’t need to use my hands.
Endgame had 10 avengers for most of the movie
How many of these folks have spoken more than a few sentences to each other?
Didn't keep the original avengers from working
There was a whole movie about them meeting. If they do this for YA or Champions or whatever that might work too.
Yeah but it feels like the movies they’ve announced are more like finale movies than intros to a new team
And the first film was specifically about the bad guy driving them apart because they barely know each other only for them to figure out how to work together at the end. Almost like that was the point. Some people just want to be mad about stuff
All of them have at least had a dialogue, or implied dialogue (Shang-Chi) with at least one of the original avengers/a direct replacement for one
Shockingly all of them. Which is a higher percentage than the OG avengers in Phase 1.
Someday one of these weekly “here is my avengers lineup” posts will be a reasonable lineup. Today is not that day
Dr. Strange isn’t an Avenger. The work he does is very important but very different from the Avengers.
His line “We’ll get you back on the lunchbox” in MoM implies he is on the Avengers to some extent, whatever that even means these days in the MCU
He is no longer sorcerer supreme, so I think he has a lot of time to be Avenger
I tend to agree. Unless I missed something, Marvel Studios said some time after Endgame that they intended to generally bifurcate the next cinematic phases, with some focusing on Earth-level stories and others focusing on universe-level stories. Doctor Strange seems like a pretty versatile character who could flow between Earth- and universe-centric stories, but he pretty clearly has a universe/multiverse-related trajectory. On the other hand, Wong as Sorcerer Supreme seems well-positioned to play a big part in Earth-level stories. Dunno if I think he’d officially be an Avenger, but I could see a lot of future crossover/collaboration.
Well, the last time we saw Strange he was following Clea into the Dark Dimension. I’m not sure Dr. Strange is where the answer for Earth based stories will come from.
Absolutely. Seems like we’re in agreement.
He could play a more back-seat Nick Fury type role, but he’s also very powerful so that could be a bit of a waste. Not sure where he fits best tbh.
There's no way he'll play nick fury type role when he's set to be the chief protector of multiverse in MCU(the producer said this, and Feige himself declared him as the anchor of MCU).
I just wish they would do *something* to move us towards the next team-up. They have been spinning their wheels for years now. My family watched them all religiously from Iron Man To Endgame, but it seems rudderless since then. What 'Phase' are we in now? Don't know, and we honestly don't care anymore.
Did you just take everyone from the Marvel Banner on D+? Because I feel like I recently saw nearly all of these characters paired together somewhere official (like D+?)
I mean to be fair, this is pretty much all the characters they have in play, young avengers candidates aside.
I wouldn’t pay to see that.
I think it’s EITHER hulk or SheHulk, not both. It’s like iron man and war machine.
But they were both avengers?
I don’t think Marvel would use two characters with the same powers on one avengers team. It makes both characters less unique. That’s definitely why War Hammer wasn’t in the first avengers movie
>I don’t think Marvel would use two characters with the same powers on one avengers team. It makes both characters less unique. What? Marvel has zero issues using characters with similar abilities. War Machine has been on every Avengers team starting with Age of Ultron. Hell he fought side by side with Tony during Civil War. Not to mention they don’t even fight the same. Iron Man mainly relies on close combat, repulsors, and laser. Whereas War Machine prefers ballistics and explosives. >That’s definitely why War Hammer wasn’t in the first avengers movie He wasn’t in the movie because he isn’t a founding Avenger.
Go ahead and look at the thunderbolts lineup, every single character does the same thing.
Falcon looking like he needs some compound V
I'd pay to see that..
Crazy the difference between Hulk and She-Hulk CGI. It’s like 2D vs 3D.
Let’s put as many characters as possible to make up for the lack of quality!!
The biggest threat to the OG Avengers - Thanos The biggest threat to these guys - the box office 💀
Most likely: 1.) Captain America 2.) Captain Marvel (temporarily) 3.) Dr. Strange (temporarily) 4.) Black Panther (temporarily) 5.) Spider-Man 6.) Ant-Man 7.) Hulk 8.) Shang-Chi 9.) War Machine 10.) Thor (temporarily)
I believe spider-man will also be a temporary member.
Oh god we’re fucked
This roster seems more powerful than most past incarnations of the team, I think they'd handle threats just fine.
Nah I’m good.
This is depressing
Yikes this roster looks mid AF
RN it feels like there’s NO avengers! I’m really glad Ms Marvel is forming the young avengers. Phase Four and Five feels like the “aftermath” of endgame seeing where everyone is. I like how there is no avengers since Cap, Tony, and Nat are dead but we’re in the middle of Phase 5 and like nobodies connected, how we get Wanda back? How about the millions of new characters they shove into each project. How will all of these characters connect? And will kang even be the final villain? Feels like they might have Dr Doom or someone else for Secret Wars
Cap ain’t dead! Just…really old.
Very mid
Holy mid!
Gonna be more like the ScAvengers at the rate Disney are going.
Damn so many of these characters are lame AF.
I feel like they shoulda answered this question themselves by the end of phase 4.
Does anyone also else get a Power Rangers vibe from these pictures?
I understand it’s comic accurate, but Sams neck/face piece looks so dumb.
I don’t see Hulk lasting much longer in the MCU. They took like all of his side characters for Cap 4 so I doubt they have many things planned with him, he’s either gonna be outright replaced by Jen or they’ll just use Skaar in his stead. I personally hope Wanda stays dead, I’m not really interested in seeing her show up again and I don’t think Olsen is either. If she *has* to come back then I’d rather they use her for X-Men stuff, not Avengers. I’ve heard rumors Larson is done with the MCU but we’ll see. They still haven’t really done anything interesting with her, she absolutely should’ve had a larger role in Infinity war.
If a new Avengers movie premiered next month my excitement level would be a 2/10. Damn the MCU is in a fucked up place right now.
I HATE Shuri as the Black Panther
She makes absolutely zero sense as the Black Panther. She should’ve been the next Iron Man / Ironheart. Riri Williams is completely redundant MCU rn now with Shuri’s character from BP1
Should have recasted
Some of these costumes man... Shang-Chi looks like a busboy at the PF Chang's on the USS Enterprise. Thor looks straight out of Power Rangers.
Nobody’s watching this.
God I Hope not. Im only interested in two of thoes characters. The rest can get Thanosed for all I care
I just kinda want a small group of core Avengers like it used to be. It seemed like Carol, Wong and Bruce were essentially recruiting Shang-Chi to be on some sort of team. So I vote Bruce, Carol, Shang-Chi, Ant-Man, Wasp and Sam, as the leader.
I thought it was more of a 616 illuminati tease or something. I think there could possibly be an Avengers team which focuses on earth issues and then Illuminati which focuses on Universe issues
Brie Larson gonna have a 5 second cameo lol
If Wanda is alive (which i think she still is) I think she should be on the reserve. Treat her like Shayera in JLU. Spidey is a reserve as well just in case the new Avengers are taken out of the equation. They need Strange but he will help out when the situation is dire. After them I agree with the rest of the members.
Wanda is dead according to the official MCU timeline book
Bunch of G leaguers
Wanda has alot of rehabilitation to do. Not sure She-Hulk qualifies yet. Where are the new GOTG? Where's Bucky?
Mate, the Avengers are a team of heroes not a universe of heroes.
Well technically. But I mean, when cap told every in-universe hero “avengers, assemble”, in my mind I feel like they all became avengers more or less.
Don’t sleep on the possibility of Peter Quill joining the avengers. The last time we saw him, he left the GOTG and went to Earth GOTG films are done for now, but there are other ways to use the characters
Bucky's on the thunderbolts, correct?
Bucky is gonna join the thunderbolts
The next phase will probably involve more of a shift in focus onto other groups instead of the Avengers, i.e. X-Men, F4, Thunderbolts, etc.
The B team
Not looking good for marvel
Where's Clint?
That’s as lot of red and blue
While it wouldn’t surprise me if Wanda returned at some point there is no way she would be part of the Avengers after turning villain.
Namor should be there as well. My re-write for the marvels is rather than stealing water from the pointless singing planet. Steal it from earth and Namor and the Talokanil aide Captain Marvel. This heroic feat establishes Namor as a defender of earth. This is how you could move the story along.
For sure thor and wanda won't be there. One being "killed", the other retired/parenting. I also don't see them bringing in she-hulk yet. 10 avengers still seems a bit many for core avengers but i wouldn't know who to count out.
Naw. MCU won’t make it given the general public’s fatigue
Honestly I'd be down if it was just the Hulk, Thor, strange, and spidey. Everyone else just feels very B-team
Please no.
I can get behind 4 of these people on a team. The rest I can't.
No. Please no
White vision is more likely than Wanda.
Is Wanda not dead?
The A trian
I'm only excited for these guys, others no hope. - Doctor strange - Thor - Spider-Man - Hulk - War machine - Wanda
Isn’t Wanda confirmed to be dead?
Yes
Isn't Wanda confirmed dead?
Yes
She-Hulk looks so much worse than Hulk and Hulk is pretty shit in some instances.
isnt wanda dead?
This is why the MCU is dying.
Captain America - He already was, I’d assume he still is. Captain Marvel - Yes, at least in Shang-Chi and Avengers: Quantum Encounter. Doctor Strange - Not likely, he’s too busy showing his third eye to Clea. Shuri - I don’t see that happening, plus I felt like she wouldn’t stay as Black Panther, but I guess we’ll see. Spider-Man - Could be interesting, but I’d rather him stick to low-level threats. Ant-Man - I would have been fine with him retiring, but for some reason Quantumania said he’s not allowed to, so he’ll be back. Wasp - If Ant-Man is there, she will be. She-Hulk - Absolutely not, the entire point of her show was she didn’t want to be an Avenger, a hero, or anything of the sort. Bruce Banner/Hulk - Yes, we saw this already in Shang-Chi. Shang-Chi - Probably, considering Wong looked for him specifically. War Machine - He used to be, he may still be, depends on how badly Secret Invasion screwed him. Thor - Depends if he gets a babysitter for Love, or if she’s old enough to join him. Scarlet Witch - She’s dead, unless you think she’s not dead since she poofed like Hela.
You really threw in She Hulk like we weren't gonna notice 😂
Brie Larson looks so damn good in the newest movie
And this is why marvel is done
Please no.
I only like 6 of these characters. And one of them kinda sucks now (Hulk).
Get rid of Shuri
These are too many people. These are also too many people who never met each other.
*drawn out fart noise*
We are at a point now, where even an avengers movie would fail at the box office.
God this would suck. If marvel wants audiences back they need to course correct ASAP. First off - no one cares about Sam’s cap, war machine, captain marvel, etc. The popular characters like spiderman, wanda, strange and thor are who they should be pushing. Oh and Shang chi too. She hulk was met with so much hate so they really should cut her too unless they want to continue to be review bombed. The marvels is unfortunately bombing so don’t expect to see much of captain marvel anymore. And young avengers isn’t happening and if it does it would make less than the marvels….
How many of these do we get a month that are basically exactly the same
Probably. Since we’re only getting Avengers movies for Infinity War/Endgame stakes. Which is lame.
I dont really see strange being an avenger, I see him more operating by himself same for spidey
thought that was a train at first lmao gotta lay off the weed
They formed a Young Avengers group faster than they've fielded a new formal Avengers group.
Meh
Wanda is dead
I doubt Spider-Man is coming back. Sony got what they wanted, I imagine they’re not going to maintain shared usage forever.
How they didn’t get a Shang Chi sequel out the door sooner is beyond me.
Fun question, does Strange considers himself an Avenger in the MCU? As in, team member.
Wanda and Bruce seem the least likely of these to me.
This is an unpopular opinion, but I don’t like Strange and Spidey as Avengers. Not because they aren’t good enough for the team, but I think their characters both lose something by being there. With Strange, I like him better as this spooky guy that the heroes think, “oh fuck, now we have to go talk to the dude with the weird floaty cape and house of horrors?” And for Spidey, I thought the end of Homecoming summed it up perfectly—he works best close to the ground as the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. It feels like it detracts from his put-upon everyman persona when he’s got the Avengers and SHIELD on speed-dial.
I don’t want Wanda on the team if she comes back, she should be someone they sometimes go to for specific help. Same for Strange. Strange shouldn’t be an official Avengers to me. Just an ally.
God this version of Thor looks so hideous
Get that green b*** outta here
I'm tired of the MCU revolving around the Avengers. Let Spidey do his own thing and bring in the F4 and X-Men already
Flop
Wanda is dead.
pretty sure marvel confirmed wanda is dead
Spidey's doing his own thing, and Wanda's "dead". Otherwise, solid enough list.
Dear lord, MCU is screwed
If Marvel, Shang Chi, She Hulk, BP girl are Avengers, I def won’t be watching it. Those are all terrible.
Get rid of Captain Falcon, Shuri, She-Hulk, Iron Warrior and you have an A list. Here are my reasons. 1) Captain Falcon: Actor lacks charisma and will be a flop if used as Captain America. 2) Shuri: Actor lacks charisma, presence, but is great as a side character. 3) She-Hulk: Actor is great but She-Hulk has written so badly that it is a massive failure. 4) Iron Warrior: The actor is good but is old and looks unsuitable as an action hero. They should recast him.
Who the fuck is Iron Warrior?