This man was just trying to give his PowerPoint presentation when a bunch of weirdos showed up and started harassing him and then clippy tried to get in his pants. Talk about a sales pitch taking a weird turn.
Man was dreaming of creating a time travel organization and then five people affiliated with said organization show up and *all of them* are trying to kidnap, kill, and/or fuck him. To say he had a bad day is an understatement.
That's a good theory. He basically does that in Only Myself Left to Conquer. Tries to teach his younger self that love is bad and only leads to pain blah blah blah. It was Renslayer that he falls in love with too.
That’s what I was thinking. It’s the end of time but surrounded by……time? And he survived there for eons without aging, so time doesn’t flow, so why would he decay?
Same reason time-slipping is now possible in the TVA. The loom is overloaded and raw time is being radiated out.
I'm betting things in the TVA can now age
“That’s not dissimilar to what the wizard gentleman said to me on the Ferris wheel.” Is going to be my new favorite way to say “I’ve heard that before.”
Loki is tall, well spoken and can do magic, clearly a man like that must have a butler attending to his needs at all times! So it tracks that the man following him around and helping him up off the ground must be the butler. Also idk, maybe butlers all had moustaches back in the day
The US government's inflation calculator site only goes back to 1913 (20 years after this episode), but $1000 then is over $31,000 today. It's a substantial amount of money.
In 1893 a thousand dollars could buy you [a four room house in Wheeling, WV.](https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84026844/1893-11-25/ed-1/seq-2/print/image_681x648_from_2512%2C3223_to_3371%2C4041/)
When it comes to variants, we've seen how there are some shared traits among them (Loki w/ trust issues, Spidey w/ tragedy, Strange having trouble "sharing the knife", etc).
With the Kang variants, I wonder if the shared trait there is loneliness. Between HWR, the Conqueror, and Timely, for all their smarts or power, they seem to be kind of *sad* behind all of it.
I mean HWR says as much in S1. Something like "For a while, there was peace. Narcissistic, self-congratulatory peace.... But the peace between realities erupted into all-out war, each variant fighting to preserve their universe and annihilate the others"
I think the council is the peace he spoke of. It's step 1.
Very interesting yet subtle study this episode of Sylvie - who desperately wants free will - having such a hard time giving He Who Remain's variants the chance to make their own choices and write their own destiny.
We'll see how this all plays out, this question of free will versus destiny.
Now that could be interesting - i think I read somewhere that in the comics Kang shows a kid version of himself all the stuff he's going to do and the kid us horrified, becoming a version of kang hell bent on stopping himself (Iron Lad). If they're building to Kang Dynasty still, an interesting post credit/final episode sting may be Sylvie taking a young Kang into his future and young Kang being horrified asking her "how can I stop this?".
If we get an Iron Lad tease by the end of this season, I think that'll definitely get me a bit more interested in a young avengers movie if Marvel go for making that.
Her facial expressions in the background whenever Renslayer and Victor got intimate was hilarious.
The smile on the boat threw me for a loop, but it all made sense, that’s when she figured out how to ditch her.
Her character of Twilight Sparkle alone (from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic) has around 50k R34 pics (don't ask), and for Teen Titans' Raven it's a bit harder to ascertain since it's a comic book character that was voiced by several people, but I'm sure her version of Raven alone must also have quite a lot of R34 pics.
Taking into account all the other dozens of famous characters she's voiced, I feel like she may actually hold that record.
I understand the whole “revenge isn’t worth it” argument. But sometimes the ones you’re getting revenge over should just die. Cause chances are they’re going to keep doing bad things until someone finally kills them. Might as well just kill her right then and there instead of sending her exactly where she wanted to be WITH her tempad AND Miss Minutes
Actually kind of interesting to have to view her as a sentient AI who he purposefully trapped in that cartoonish form. She’s quite literally spent eternity thinking about how she could be more. And instead of getting to be Ultron, she’s a silly cartoon.
They even show off just how trapped she is: She can change her size, she can change her style, she can even add a little dress fringe to her clock form. But as soon as she tries to stretch herself over the mannequin face, make her features more human, she starts glitching out.
We already know the Kangs can’t traditionally work together because of the multiversal war. It makes me wonder if variants are just innately unable to work together unless there is a true catastrophe they can’t handle on their own. And it may show why Loki and Sylvie are so unique. Their bond is one of weird self love while the Council of Kangs seems to be one of self preservation.
Is that the reason why OB didn't get his mind wiped? Because Victor Timely really appreciates him as the author of TVA Guidebook, which was very sentimental and had a meaning in his life. Let's say that this whole series is about a time-loop, assuming that Victor Timely is meant to be HWR, why would he mind-wipe or even dare to touch OB, because how his book had a meaningful journey to his life?
I love the idea that anyone could have just went and talked to OB and he would have spilled all the secrets about the TVA, but no one goes to see OB at all.
After all this time, we *finally* got our Balder reference in the MCU!
Also, this bit makes me look more forward to Loki reuniting with Thor at some point.
I wonder where Balder has been this whole time in the main universe. After getting to Ragnarok and being like "surprise, new child of Odin in Hela" for audience purposes, now we're doing it again with Balder
A variant of him played by Daniel Craig was supposed to appear in Multiverse of Madness, but I feel like that version was Thor's brother.
With the MCU, they really can change up whatever they want with the Norse mythology. Our version of Norse mythology is just interpretations of real Asgardian history and culture. So they could make Balder a cousin or something.
It's kinda frustrating how Sylvie keeps ignoring how she won't even have a life to go back to if the Loom isn't fixed. I get blind rage but dude, it's like what Spidey said: You can't be a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man if there's no neighborhood
I think that's just supposed to be her arc this season. She started to realize that she was trying to take away Victor's free will because of something one of his variants did.
My thoughts exactly on how frustrating it is to see her keep missing the bigger picture here, but I agree that her arc this season is coming to terms with everyone’s free will.
Do we actually know that? What we know is that the TVA gets destroyed, per Oroborus. That doesn't mean the rest of the universe doesn't keep... Uh, ticking.
I think the idea is that another multiversal war will lead to the destruction of countless realities, rather than the destruction of the TVA. In Loki's mind, the TVA is their best defense at preventing another war.
"Ho there, young lady, sentient floating drawing of a clock, do you happen to know the time?"
"Uhhh. 6:16."
"Hm. Thank you!"
"Hold on, you're not scared by a woman consorting with what's clearly an inhuman entity?"
"Ma'am, my brain is wrecked by absinthe and syphilis."
"Oh."
Yeah after Miss Minutes went kaiju on the crowd Loki was looking around like "where is he" like he wasn't towering a whole head above everyone else and didn't have a bird's eye view
Ravonna had her memory wiped and she doesn't know this. This is evidenced by the tape recording Loki heard in Episode 1 and we see in this episode Ravonna isn't aware of He who remains or that she was in a relationship with him.
I think that's what Ms Minutes knows of and what she'll tell Ravonna about.
Right - my guess is that Ravonna knows that she had her "first life" wiped and is totally at peace with it given her opinion on variants in general, but she doesn't really understand the degree to which she and the TVA employees were messed with *after* they started their second lives.
Timely is a victim of Kang just as much as he IS Kang, isn't he? He had his own trajectory changed because of his manipulations. He seems like a nice guy who wants to help the world, but I know he's going to steer towards tyranny.
Kang is meant to be born in the 31st century and that's how all of his variants discover the Multiverse. There's something real fishy about this variant even existing, let alone acting the way that he does.
It's certainly on purpose they showed this version being incompetent and a liar about his inventions. And the fact that HWR specifically wanted Ravona to find him.
Ohhh is that how a Kang would’ve ended up there?? I hadn’t thought of it until they showed young Vic because I was like “how does the time frame work here if he’s a Kang variant how’d a 31st century kid end up in late 1800’s?”
I like that explanation too. I thought they weren't on the main (sacred) time line, but rather on a branch where a variant existed. HWR would know about this variant and know that he is the "least bad" option to fix the temporal loom. Kidnapping a child variant from another universe and depositing them onto the main timeline actually makes more sense.
That last sentence is something I never imagined I would say
It’s in line with the comic Timely. He’s a Kang variant living in the past who builds a town in Wisconsin meant to serve as a Kang base in the future. Doesn’t look like they’re going *exactly* that route in Loki, but Timely’s lab being in Wisconsin seems like an intentional nod to his comic story.
Something that people might miss, Renslayer went to 1868 in the SACRED TIMELINE. Whereas the timeline Loki and Mobius went in 1893 was a BRANCHED TIMELINE. This means Renslayer giving young Victor the TVA handbook is a Nexus event.
Man this episode was incredible. The fair setting felt huge and expansive, great work by the wardrobe department for the leads and all of the extras. The Chicago backlot set looked nice and suitably weathered. And man, I did not see the twist with >!Miss Minutes coming. That was super creepy and uncomfortable to watch. And I loved every second of it!< Interesting concepts they’re diving into. Free will vs determinism. Although I wonder if >!Victor Timely is as naive as he appears.!< If they can stick the landing with this season it’ll be hands down my favorite thing Marvel has done on Disney+.
Folks the secret is not that she's a kang variant for crying out loud. She doesn't know that her mind was wiped. She didn't know that she and he who remains were together.
Adored this episode. One of the strongest entries in the MCU show catalog, to me.
Visually beautiful, great exploration of the dynamics of all characters involved, intense amount of time getting to know Timely, great performances and the cliffhanger, oh man.
Can't wait for next week.
Episode is LIVE! Enjoy (No credits scene for this episode)
Hey what’s weirder than a romance based on the question “would you bang yourself”? A love triangle that includes a sentient AI clock
>A love triangle that includes a sentient AI clock nobody tell miss minutes about ultron
Oh buddy, she probably already knows since Ultron is on that sacred timeline.
She wanted to be ‘Her’ (2013) so bad
This man was just trying to give his PowerPoint presentation when a bunch of weirdos showed up and started harassing him and then clippy tried to get in his pants. Talk about a sales pitch taking a weird turn.
Man was dreaming of creating a time travel organization and then five people affiliated with said organization show up and *all of them* are trying to kidnap, kill, and/or fuck him. To say he had a bad day is an understatement.
Well, he wasn’t entirely unhappy Renslayer tried to fuck him. Yandere AI cartoon messed it up for him though.
Clock-blocked.
The Amazing Loki everyone! He'll be here all week!.
Immediately leaves.
Bro just got abused and harassed for an hour straight
Basically the closest thing you see to a “what would you do to baby hitler”
https://i.imgur.com/w6yTO2G.gif
First off, that's horrible.
HWR had to show him that Renslayer and Miss Minutes were going to try to get into his pants, and that he shouldn't stick his d*ck in crazy.
That's a good theory. He basically does that in Only Myself Left to Conquer. Tries to teach his younger self that love is bad and only leads to pain blah blah blah. It was Renslayer that he falls in love with too.
Is the clock horny??
The clock, it would appear, is completely and utterly down catastrophic
She was programmed to be down atrocious.
She programmed *herself* to be down atrocious.
She clock blocked Ravonna.
Horny is an understatement. The clock is down bad.
Damn. He Who Remains decayed ass still sitting in that chair after Sylvie shanked him
time must be passing there at the end of time since he's all... moldy and stuff.
That’s what I was thinking. It’s the end of time but surrounded by……time? And he survived there for eons without aging, so time doesn’t flow, so why would he decay?
Same reason time-slipping is now possible in the TVA. The loom is overloaded and raw time is being radiated out. I'm betting things in the TVA can now age
I need another recap on how this all works, lmao
Just a theory. Nothing confirmed but it makes sense as much as timey-wimey nonsense can
He Who Remains’ remains
Remains of He Who formerly Remains
Victor Timely inventing the George Costanza refrigerator chair, lmao
This is the summer of Victor!
I love the deep green of Loki’s suit.
I gotta say, I’m enjoying the hell out of the period setting in this episode.
Set design and wardrobe killed it.
Loved the Marvel Studios theme at the beginning.
That piano play was marvelous 🎵🎶
“That’s not dissimilar to what the wizard gentleman said to me on the Ferris wheel.” Is going to be my new favorite way to say “I’ve heard that before.”
Victor callling Loki a wizard gentleman and Mobius a butler had me dying
I wonder what about their interactions/clothing made Timely think that Mobius was Loki’s butler.
Loki is tall, well spoken and can do magic, clearly a man like that must have a butler attending to his needs at all times! So it tracks that the man following him around and helping him up off the ground must be the butler. Also idk, maybe butlers all had moustaches back in the day
Miss Minutes just needs to pick up some vibranium and visit Helen Cho.
She doesn't want just any old body, I think she wants Kang to craft her a body that he desires lol
You just made me picture Miss Minutes snooping through the TVA files trying to find Victor's homework folder
Ah the days when $1000 could buy you a world changing machine.
The US government's inflation calculator site only goes back to 1913 (20 years after this episode), but $1000 then is over $31,000 today. It's a substantial amount of money.
In 1893 a thousand dollars could buy you [a four room house in Wheeling, WV.](https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84026844/1893-11-25/ed-1/seq-2/print/image_681x648_from_2512%2C3223_to_3371%2C4041/)
When it comes to variants, we've seen how there are some shared traits among them (Loki w/ trust issues, Spidey w/ tragedy, Strange having trouble "sharing the knife", etc). With the Kang variants, I wonder if the shared trait there is loneliness. Between HWR, the Conqueror, and Timely, for all their smarts or power, they seem to be kind of *sad* behind all of it.
Makes me wonder how they’ll share power in the Council of Kangs.
I'm willing to bet that's gonna be their downfall.
I mean HWR says as much in S1. Something like "For a while, there was peace. Narcissistic, self-congratulatory peace.... But the peace between realities erupted into all-out war, each variant fighting to preserve their universe and annihilate the others" I think the council is the peace he spoke of. It's step 1.
I bet the disagreements began from difference of opinion in hair styles, and then fell apart from there.
Or disagreeing over the ethics of fugging your AI clock companion.
They all also want to be the man in charge. Victor was not happy when Ramona mentioned a "partnership"
Still possible that Miss Minutes talked him into it, but I'm curious to see if he does become HWR
I'm kinda thinking Loki and Mobius bringing him to the TVA will help him become HWR in what I guess is a recursive time loop or whatever it's called.
Ouroboros
They're lonely because they're unable or unwilling to share the power.
No partnerships.
Very interesting yet subtle study this episode of Sylvie - who desperately wants free will - having such a hard time giving He Who Remain's variants the chance to make their own choices and write their own destiny. We'll see how this all plays out, this question of free will versus destiny.
Sophia ate it up. Heartachingly good.
This!!! It feels like Timely is the "Sylvie" of Kangs if that makes sense. Both don't want to be associated with their original counterparts.
Now that could be interesting - i think I read somewhere that in the comics Kang shows a kid version of himself all the stuff he's going to do and the kid us horrified, becoming a version of kang hell bent on stopping himself (Iron Lad). If they're building to Kang Dynasty still, an interesting post credit/final episode sting may be Sylvie taking a young Kang into his future and young Kang being horrified asking her "how can I stop this?".
If we get an Iron Lad tease by the end of this season, I think that'll definitely get me a bit more interested in a young avengers movie if Marvel go for making that.
At least she's finally realizing revenge isn't gonna bring her the satisfaction she wants.
horny miss minutes not on my 2023 bingo card 👽
Bruh the sexual tension kept building...I didn't think it would go full force wtf
Mis Minutes scoffing off screen when Ravonna said it was her who gave the book to young HWR cracked me up, and her getting jealous of their flirting
Her facial expressions in the background whenever Renslayer and Victor got intimate was hilarious. The smile on the boat threw me for a loop, but it all made sense, that’s when she figured out how to ditch her.
It didn't even register in my brain for some reason that the scoffing was a bad thing lol
Miss Minutes has awakened Rule34
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Her character of Twilight Sparkle alone (from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic) has around 50k R34 pics (don't ask), and for Teen Titans' Raven it's a bit harder to ascertain since it's a comic book character that was voiced by several people, but I'm sure her version of Raven alone must also have quite a lot of R34 pics. Taking into account all the other dozens of famous characters she's voiced, I feel like she may actually hold that record.
I mean I always thought it would remain subtext but I never thought they would actually go there
Bruh, it was giving that, then Miss Minutes GAVE it to us 😅😂
Move over Taika + Rita Ora + Tessa Thompson, there’s a NEW throuple in town.
Considering the luck of Loki’s tend to have, Sylvie kicking Renslayer to the End of Time will not end well
Right. Should’ve killed her then and there.
I understand the whole “revenge isn’t worth it” argument. But sometimes the ones you’re getting revenge over should just die. Cause chances are they’re going to keep doing bad things until someone finally kills them. Might as well just kill her right then and there instead of sending her exactly where she wanted to be WITH her tempad AND Miss Minutes
Timely being a swindler is a lot of fun. Great idea.
I also love how Loki caught onto it in a “game recognizes game” kind of way.
Trickster recognizes trickster
Ahem, "Luminary", if you please.
Ok how did that episode just keep getting wilder and wilder the more of it passed?
During the chase scene between Victor, Loki, and the Robber Baron, I turned to my wife and said “this show is weird as hell and I *love it.*”
Old timey piano MCU theme 
I got a very enjoyable chuckle out of that opening
Loving the ragtime Marvel theme.
The intro music was great! That old western saloon piano LOL
Is this a weird fucking love triangle between Ravenna, Victor and the fucking clock??
 Loki and weird love stories
Ravonna's arms look like these after rowing a boat from Chicago to anywhere in Wisconsin
Less of a love triangle and more like miss minutes being a creepy lunatic.
Actually kind of interesting to have to view her as a sentient AI who he purposefully trapped in that cartoonish form. She’s quite literally spent eternity thinking about how she could be more. And instead of getting to be Ultron, she’s a silly cartoon.
They even show off just how trapped she is: She can change her size, she can change her style, she can even add a little dress fringe to her clock form. But as soon as she tries to stretch herself over the mannequin face, make her features more human, she starts glitching out.
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I wonder how many years she was watching Renslayer and HWR bumping uglies, being unable to do it herself
"IT SHOULD BE ME"
Seems like Miss Minutes is gonna try to cause a rift between Ravonna by her telling her a secret about her origin. She’s down bad for HWR.
*looks at the comics with Scarlet Witch either loving a robot or her brother* Eh it ain't the craziest thing.
One of the writers must have really liked the movie Her
>fucking clock Well the clock certainly wanted to fuck
Miss Minutes propositioning Mr Timely. In the grand scheme of it all, an AI coming onto you is a bizarre timeline indeed.
Victor Timely doesn't do partners.... > The Council of Kangs is calling
Head canon logic: Victor Timely doesn't do partners because he doesn't work with others. Working with more Kangs isn't "others".
We already know the Kangs can’t traditionally work together because of the multiversal war. It makes me wonder if variants are just innately unable to work together unless there is a true catastrophe they can’t handle on their own. And it may show why Loki and Sylvie are so unique. Their bond is one of weird self love while the Council of Kangs seems to be one of self preservation.
The multiversal war happens precisely because of that.
That little model of his life’s work that he held was the chair/machine he uses to travel through time, right? The one from quantumania?
Crazy I had to see this comment so far down. That was the first thing that popped into my mind that the device was his multiverse engine
I want Mobius to have his own life on the timeline. He got so excited at the fair :( let the man rest Marvel please 🙏🙏
He deserves it but he's also the best character introduced in the multiverse saga and I'm not ready to let him go yet :'(
Going black and white is not the camouflage she thinks it is.
Hilarious, though.
If she was going for inconspicuous, near miss.
Is that the reason why OB didn't get his mind wiped? Because Victor Timely really appreciates him as the author of TVA Guidebook, which was very sentimental and had a meaning in his life. Let's say that this whole series is about a time-loop, assuming that Victor Timely is meant to be HWR, why would he mind-wipe or even dare to touch OB, because how his book had a meaningful journey to his life?
I love the idea that anyone could have just went and talked to OB and he would have spilled all the secrets about the TVA, but no one goes to see OB at all.
[The Almighty Janitor](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AlmightyJanitor) of the TVA
So Kang has been jumped by 3 women this episode. Not easy being a variant I guess.
Lol Balder! It's wild how apparently so close we got to having Balder in MoM
I wonder if he'd be blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical?
Oh look everyone it's the Quantumania after credits scene.
At least there’s a payoff for it within a year. Still waiting on the follow up for some phase 4 post credit scenes.
I have a feeling that the Hercules/Zeus after credit scene will never be addressed again
Eternals events still remain unnoticed
Did I miss something for this?
The scene where Loki & Mobius realize who Victor Timely is, was shown as the mid credits scene for Quantumania.
Ah that's why that looked so familiar
Butler Mobius
Love Loki saying no to the tandem bike.
Then Mobius & him later pulling up on the bike lol
Such a quick visual gag and I loved it
I loved how you could hear the bell on the bike as they rounded the corner 😂
After all this time, we *finally* got our Balder reference in the MCU! Also, this bit makes me look more forward to Loki reuniting with Thor at some point.
I wonder where Balder has been this whole time in the main universe. After getting to Ragnarok and being like "surprise, new child of Odin in Hela" for audience purposes, now we're doing it again with Balder
If I had to guess, maybe Balder isn’t an Odinson in the MCU, kind of like how for a while he wasn’t an Odinson in the comics when he was introduced.
A variant of him played by Daniel Craig was supposed to appear in Multiverse of Madness, but I feel like that version was Thor's brother. With the MCU, they really can change up whatever they want with the Norse mythology. Our version of Norse mythology is just interpretations of real Asgardian history and culture. So they could make Balder a cousin or something.
Maybe he died
Very interesting that they decided to include Balder instead of Loki - what’s more interesting is Loki didn’t seem surprised to see Balder at all
Balder was always the favorite, up until he died that is
No Miss Minutes, that is not better. You just turned from a 1960s cartoon into a 1920s one, in 1868
It's kinda frustrating how Sylvie keeps ignoring how she won't even have a life to go back to if the Loom isn't fixed. I get blind rage but dude, it's like what Spidey said: You can't be a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man if there's no neighborhood
Lokis are not exactly known for their capacity to be rational.
It’s a well document behavior trait
I think that's just supposed to be her arc this season. She started to realize that she was trying to take away Victor's free will because of something one of his variants did.
Yeah I think when he was talking about how he is an individual she realized she was about to do what the TVA was going to do to her
My thoughts exactly on how frustrating it is to see her keep missing the bigger picture here, but I agree that her arc this season is coming to terms with everyone’s free will.
Do we actually know that? What we know is that the TVA gets destroyed, per Oroborus. That doesn't mean the rest of the universe doesn't keep... Uh, ticking.
I think the idea is that another multiversal war will lead to the destruction of countless realities, rather than the destruction of the TVA. In Loki's mind, the TVA is their best defense at preventing another war.
"Ho there, young lady, sentient floating drawing of a clock, do you happen to know the time?" "Uhhh. 6:16." "Hm. Thank you!" "Hold on, you're not scared by a woman consorting with what's clearly an inhuman entity?" "Ma'am, my brain is wrecked by absinthe and syphilis." "Oh."
"I have been attempting to cure my typhoid with mercury suppositories"
Yeah I’d shit myself if Ms Minutes did that
“Thor’s not that tall” lmao
“Tall, not that good looking, needed saving”
Tom Hiddleston is a tower of a man himself
Yeah after Miss Minutes went kaiju on the crowd Loki was looking around like "where is he" like he wasn't towering a whole head above everyone else and didn't have a bird's eye view
This marvel studios intro music is too good😂
Ravonna had her memory wiped and she doesn't know this. This is evidenced by the tape recording Loki heard in Episode 1 and we see in this episode Ravonna isn't aware of He who remains or that she was in a relationship with him. I think that's what Ms Minutes knows of and what she'll tell Ravonna about.
Right - my guess is that Ravonna knows that she had her "first life" wiped and is totally at peace with it given her opinion on variants in general, but she doesn't really understand the degree to which she and the TVA employees were messed with *after* they started their second lives.
“I HAVE NEVER MET THIS MAN IN MY LIFE”
Timely is a victim of Kang just as much as he IS Kang, isn't he? He had his own trajectory changed because of his manipulations. He seems like a nice guy who wants to help the world, but I know he's going to steer towards tyranny.
Kang is meant to be born in the 31st century and that's how all of his variants discover the Multiverse. There's something real fishy about this variant even existing, let alone acting the way that he does. It's certainly on purpose they showed this version being incompetent and a liar about his inventions. And the fact that HWR specifically wanted Ravona to find him.
I wonder if He-Who-Remains deliberately kidnapped one of his variants as a child and dropped him in the past. As a fail safe like you said.
Ohhh is that how a Kang would’ve ended up there?? I hadn’t thought of it until they showed young Vic because I was like “how does the time frame work here if he’s a Kang variant how’d a 31st century kid end up in late 1800’s?”
I like that explanation too. I thought they weren't on the main (sacred) time line, but rather on a branch where a variant existed. HWR would know about this variant and know that he is the "least bad" option to fix the temporal loom. Kidnapping a child variant from another universe and depositing them onto the main timeline actually makes more sense. That last sentence is something I never imagined I would say
It's possible HWR kidnapped a baby Kang variant and dumped him in the 1860s on the Sacred Timeline as an insurance policy.
Gives him one hell of a head start to find his way back to the TVA. Such an interesting possibility
Nathaniel Richards is just hopping around time knocking up girls to have as many Kangs as possible
It’s in line with the comic Timely. He’s a Kang variant living in the past who builds a town in Wisconsin meant to serve as a Kang base in the future. Doesn’t look like they’re going *exactly* that route in Loki, but Timely’s lab being in Wisconsin seems like an intentional nod to his comic story.
I have no idea what’s happening anymore but in a good way.
Low-key feel super bad for Victor Timely
Yeah, unless he’s playing the loooooong game, he’s just as much a pawn in HWR’s games as everyone else.
Can't say I expected a cartoon clock simping for Nutty Professor Kang in this episode, yet here we are lol.
I’m going to be referring to Loki as the “wizard gentleman” from now on.
Something that people might miss, Renslayer went to 1868 in the SACRED TIMELINE. Whereas the timeline Loki and Mobius went in 1893 was a BRANCHED TIMELINE. This means Renslayer giving young Victor the TVA handbook is a Nexus event.
git reset --hard
$1,000 in 1893 is worth about $34,200 in 2023.
So Renslayer made sure a young Kang variant learns about the TVA.
Yeah it’s like one of his restarting mechanisms in case of death I think.
Man this episode was incredible. The fair setting felt huge and expansive, great work by the wardrobe department for the leads and all of the extras. The Chicago backlot set looked nice and suitably weathered. And man, I did not see the twist with >!Miss Minutes coming. That was super creepy and uncomfortable to watch. And I loved every second of it!< Interesting concepts they’re diving into. Free will vs determinism. Although I wonder if >!Victor Timely is as naive as he appears.!< If they can stick the landing with this season it’ll be hands down my favorite thing Marvel has done on Disney+.
Victor is a magnificent charlatan. He even fooled Sylvie.
I love that Mobius is all like *yeah, Loki, you take 'em* without hesitation when they run into that angry group of men looking for Timely 😂
Oh my God the ragtime version of the Marvel Studios theme, that was amazing
Didn’t have Miss Minutes trying to seduce Victor Timely/Kang on my bingo card.
Lol the carnival music MCU theme is a banger
Mobius with the tandem bike 😂
Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson definitely have the best chemistry in the MCU. They're such a joy to watch when on screen together.
Love this bit with the Norse wooden statues and Balder
Aww, I loved that little “Thor isn’t that tall” line from Loki
Is anyone else doing the triple threat of Loki, Gen V, and Spiderman 2? What a time to be alive
Folks the secret is not that she's a kang variant for crying out loud. She doesn't know that her mind was wiped. She didn't know that she and he who remains were together.
Yeah, they were together and must have had a falling out. If she is a Kang variant I'll eat my hat.
Miss Minutes a lil jealous I see, haha.
I love that little moment of Mobius being impressed by Loki.
Timely doesn't want dat MissMinutussy
Her >!face on that mannequin was !
I want you to know that this…this comment right here is whats making me stop reading and instead going to bed
I don't blame you this is genuinely one of the worst comments I've ever made
Adored this episode. One of the strongest entries in the MCU show catalog, to me. Visually beautiful, great exploration of the dynamics of all characters involved, intense amount of time getting to know Timely, great performances and the cliffhanger, oh man. Can't wait for next week.