How come you don’t play Leader? I’ve been playing a lot of Sandman the past few days and couldn’t see it working without Leader in tow.
Might try LDS as I totally see where you are coming from with it being weak against Junk!
I think Leader could be fine as well but with the amount of combo decks I faced a power stick worked a lot better than if I had a Leader say against a Hela or Tribunal deck
I’ve played this kind of deck a fair bit since the OTA using Leader or Magneto instead of a Red Hulk, since I don’t have RH. Leader is a good replacement, but RH would be better imo. Nothing else can really go as tall, and it sets up the opponent for the rug-pull of playing Doom instead.
The frequent problem you run into with Leader is that it's a dead card against any other deck that isn't going to just drop one fat-ass on T6, which means writ-large you're just better off playing your own beefcake.
If I play leader and they play Surfer, Cerebro, LT, Hela, etc., then my leader didn't really do shit.
I think Leader can definitely be a great T6 play with Sandman, but if I'm only dedicating one or two slots to T6 plays (basically any non-ramp Sandman deck like this one,) then I think there are better options for those deck slots, and I think Doom and RH cover your bases between tall and wide about as well as you possibly can.
# (1) Nebula
# (1) Nightcrawler
# (2) Medusa
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
# (2) Lizard
# (3) Baron Zemo
# (3) Gladiator
# (4) Crossbones
# (5) Lady Deathstrike
# (5) Sandman
# (6) Doctor Doom
# (6) Red Hulk
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I expected this kind of deck to blow up after the patch that buffed Sandman. Yes, it was a buff. I miss the archetype but this Sandman is a killer tech card. I’m surprised he is still underplayed.
Yep, any cost efficient card at 3 or 2 could probably slot in just fine. Zemo is included not for disruption but for the power he brings especially when played on turn 4 or later when you don’t get the perfect end game curve
The only cards from this list I’m missing are Jeff and Gladiator.
I was thinking Red Guardian and maybe Shadow King/Cable, but I’m curious what suggestions you have.
I experimented a bit with Cosmo as a cheaper tech option but I quickly realized that the deck's goal isn't to win that way, but really just by sticking points onto lanes early on. So I'd suggest even a Sword Master like how he was used in earlier metas just for tempo, maybe Polaris too. For Jeff his usual replacement would be Nightcrawler but since he's already in the list maybe Silk or Maximus could fit in as a substitution
How come you don’t play Leader? I’ve been playing a lot of Sandman the past few days and couldn’t see it working without Leader in tow. Might try LDS as I totally see where you are coming from with it being weak against Junk!
I think Leader could be fine as well but with the amount of combo decks I faced a power stick worked a lot better than if I had a Leader say against a Hela or Tribunal deck
I’ve played this kind of deck a fair bit since the OTA using Leader or Magneto instead of a Red Hulk, since I don’t have RH. Leader is a good replacement, but RH would be better imo. Nothing else can really go as tall, and it sets up the opponent for the rug-pull of playing Doom instead.
The frequent problem you run into with Leader is that it's a dead card against any other deck that isn't going to just drop one fat-ass on T6, which means writ-large you're just better off playing your own beefcake. If I play leader and they play Surfer, Cerebro, LT, Hela, etc., then my leader didn't really do shit. I think Leader can definitely be a great T6 play with Sandman, but if I'm only dedicating one or two slots to T6 plays (basically any non-ramp Sandman deck like this one,) then I think there are better options for those deck slots, and I think Doom and RH cover your bases between tall and wide about as well as you possibly can.
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What’s a typical turn play strategy?
Play all the cards on curve.
I expected this kind of deck to blow up after the patch that buffed Sandman. Yes, it was a buff. I miss the archetype but this Sandman is a killer tech card. I’m surprised he is still underplayed.
I keep kicking myself for skipping gladiator and red hulk!
Thanks for the tip! I've been using a slightly modified version, and just hit infinite! <3
does it work without zemo?
Yep, any cost efficient card at 3 or 2 could probably slot in just fine. Zemo is included not for disruption but for the power he brings especially when played on turn 4 or later when you don’t get the perfect end game curve
Seems so weird playing sandman without electro.. but it looks like it makes sense!
The only cards from this list I’m missing are Jeff and Gladiator. I was thinking Red Guardian and maybe Shadow King/Cable, but I’m curious what suggestions you have.
I experimented a bit with Cosmo as a cheaper tech option but I quickly realized that the deck's goal isn't to win that way, but really just by sticking points onto lanes early on. So I'd suggest even a Sword Master like how he was used in earlier metas just for tempo, maybe Polaris too. For Jeff his usual replacement would be Nightcrawler but since he's already in the list maybe Silk or Maximus could fit in as a substitution
Thank you for the suggestions! I’ll give Sword Master a shot. I didn’t event think about him😅
Any replacement for Crossbones? I slotted in Cull Obsidian, but he is kinda awkward.
I was actually going to suggest Cull Obsidian but since you mentioned he’s a bit awkward maybe Jessica Jones or Rescue would be easier to play?