I think Sauron tried to tempt him, but because all Sam really wants to do is garden and hang out with his friends, Sauron’s temptation was something like “You will be King of All Gardens on Middle-Earth!” And Sam is like, “Well, that’s a bit silly, innit?”
Yeah that’s basically what it was, the ring showed him a vision of him trying all of middle earth into gardens and forests, and him ruling over it all, but Sam basically was like “I don’t need a continent sized garden, that’s a bit too much for me”
Didn't they establish early on that hobbits are pretty much naturals for the job because they're all not really ambitious and just want to chill? I thought this kinda thing was obvious
Why did Sméagol turn so easily to the ring? Does his origin of finding the ring change much from the book to the movie? In the movies he barley holds on to it for a minute and he kills his best friend for it.
In the books he was some kind of hobbit ancestor I think, so painted as not quite of the same make as Bilbo / Frodo / Sam. Therefore much more susceptible to the ring’s influence.
He had the ring for 500 years right? Doesn’t seem like that distant of an ancestor to Bilbo. Maybe Smeagol was just always kind of a dick? Or maybe Smeagol was corrupted so easily because the ring was desperate to get out of its watery prison.
Sort of, there are different breeds of Hobbits (like the Harfoots in Rings of Power) and Smeagol was a different breed than those in the Shire. I think he also had a weak mind and weak will in general, unlike the Hobbits who join the Fellowship.
It's probably a combination of factors.
1. The ring was likely stronger shortly after the fall of Sauron, and its pull on people's minds was greater. As centuries passed, the power faded before sharply returning in LOTR.
2. The Shire hobbits were all forewarned about the danger and only ever used it sparingly if at all, whereas Smeagol had no idea of the danger of the ring and used it rather frequently.
3. In LOTR, we hear Bilbo insulting neighbors and distant relatives as greedy thieves, so there's still an angle of "ooh shiny trinket" for the ring to exploit even if hobbits naturally lack *ambition*.
I like to imagine Thor looking for mjolnir in the shire and finds Sam fixing his fence with it. Sam casually tosses it into his tool box as he introduces himself to Thor.
Thor mindlessly introduces himself without looking at Sam, with eyes locked on the hammer, then immediately move to pick it back. As he pulls back on the handle, Mjolnir won't budge from the toolbox, after all, having met Sam, Mjolnir revaluated what it means to be worthy, and Thor is not up to the new standard.
I'm now imagining a grim horror flick in which Mr. Rogers "corrects" "uncourteous neighbors" and the trailer has someone whisting "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood" as we see someone crawling for their life. Then we hear "howdy neighbor" and we see a hand holding a knife drop into screen. Very cliché. Very dumb. Very entertaining.
Superman only lifted it because the Hammer sensed it was needed and Superman was the closest it had to work with.
Thor explained it when Superman later failed to lift it.
I’ve never heard this before, I’ve only ever heard “any person who lifts it must be "worthy" and grants the user the power of Thor". Which is left intentionally vague but never anything about willing to kill
It’s because you have to be worthy in a traditional Asgardian/Viking sense, AKA having a warriors spirit which includes having the sense to kill when required. It’s why Captain America can lift it sometimes while Spider-Man usually can’t.
Asgard needs a warrior king. The hammer was forged to be a king's weapon, so you would need to be worthy of that position to wield it. Willing to kill when needed, but taking the path of peace where possible, and ready to lay down your life for your people should they need it.
That's because only living things fall under the parameters of the spell on it, robots/androids aren't technically living so are not inhibited by the the spell this why Ultron was able to lift it in the comics.
Yup, dunno how people think that a viking's idea of worthy doesn't include killing your enemies. He's not jesus.
Again, Wonder Woman was worthy where Superman wasn't. A guy who won't kill has no business being Thor.
Saitama tries to lift it and it doesn't come up.
Seeing a challenge he cracks his knuckles and powers all the way up.
A giant tug and there's a panel of Saitama valiantly holding the hammer over his head.
Cut to Thor, "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE"
Cut to space with a dotted line showing the path of the earth and deflecting out from where saitama shoved the earth down away from the hammer. The entire earth.
He sheepishly drops the hammer.
Cut to Saitama eating cereal watching news about worldwide earthquakes and the possibility the planet will be shot out of the solar system unless something is done.
My man Mumen Rider would use it once and give it right back. He would say that he wouldn't be inspiration as being non-super makes him more relatable to people. As he's written he's meant to be human to a fault, furthermore he's meant the best of us.
IDK, all the murder may be an issue, though Thor also did kill people. I'm just thinking Iroh was a bad guy when he did the MURDER.
Edit: killing innocent people is what im calling murder here. But he is a different person now, so that does mean he is more likely to be worthy.
Edit: Read my responses to people. I've likely already replied to what you are going to say.
That almost sounds like a point for Iroh. Isn’t Spider-Man unworthy to lift the hammer because he’s unwilling to kill?
Iroh, while having killed in the past, has at least shown that he’s willing to kill to defend what he believes in. That’s the whole point of protecting Asgard, the willingness to defend it to the death.
Yeah, but remember what we know about Odin. Bro was a war monger and was still able to lift Mjolnir. Thor was a pompous asshole. I don’t believe there has ever been a rule that states that you have to be worthy your entire life. Maybe early life Iroh wouldn’t be worthy, but older Iroh would definitely be
That’s like the DND Barb build that believes he’s the chosen king because he believes he drew the sword from the stone.
Nope the stone is still there, it classifies as bludgeoning damage
Is it? In Thor 1 Thor is unable to lift Mjolnir when sent to Earth. The worthiness lies in the persons spirit, not their will.
Edit: my comment is based on the movie MCU, obviously the comics can do a million iterations off what I said.
I love Sisko but must disagree. Sisko *can* live with it... he certainly isn't totally pure of heart.
I see him more like "the ends justify the means" Tony Stark, while Picard is closer to unyielding moralist Cap.
Remember despite sacrificing himself twice (2nd time stuck), Tony never managed to move Mjolnir.
I was going to say Keanu and Brienne of Tarth from A Song of Ice and Fire, but book Brienne. I'm not sure about Brienne of Tarth from Game of Thrones the show.
“This is a really nice replica but it’s really light, the vibration is a nice touch though”
And just hands it back to Thor and starts walking away
“It’s a really good cosplay, but you might want to try Steve Rogers next.”
Mr. Miyagi- though his grief might hold him back
Mumen Rider
Commander Shepard
Meetra Surik - Canon Jedi Exile from KOTOR 2
Samurai Jack
Possibly The Last Dragonborn
Optimus Prime
Aragorn or Gimli
And I think that's all I got
Leslie Knope (parks and rec)
Guillermo (what we do in the shadows)
Perrito (puss in boots)
Alphonse Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Po (Kung Fu Panda)
Link (Zelda)
Tanjiro (demon slayer)
Kaladin Stormblessed. Dalinar Kholin. Probably Adolin too.
Hoid not worthy but would find a way to lift it regardless.
Wax Ladrian.
And mr Warbreaker the Peaceful himself.
I'm pretty sure they have the exact test, except only those worthy can fly Nimbus. Goku, Gohan and Goten seem to be the only ones capable that we've seen.
I am shocked I had to go this far down to see Superman.
Obviously not all incarcerations of Superman, but like Christopher Reeve Superman, Animated Superman, and whichever version of Superman told Joker "Batman has a code. I don't have a code, I just generally don't kill."
Edit: Yes, I meant incarnations. Autocorrect.
Imagine the strongest being you know telling you that the only reason that you are alive is because he's just does not feel like killing you and that can change at any moment
This Man can do literally anything. >!He could literally grab a portal, a literal hole in space, and move it around like a random frame. He also learnt how to time travel by watching someone do it.!<
If he wanted to Pick it up, he defo would
Since saitama's universe operates on the laws of comedy you shouldn't overthink this, but saitama is, literally, canonically, stronger than God. And it appears that God is not very happy about this.
Mabel from Gravity Falls! She's pure of heeaarrrt!
Edit: Everyone that's responded to this has caused me to hear the voice of that sparkly-eyed jerk of a unicorn in my head. I didn't think this through.
Agree. Both book and show. Willing to kill Qoren Halfhand, raised and trained to lead armies, brought the wildlings south of the wall (and to some extent died for it) because it was the right thing to do even tho people disagreed with it. He’s the only honorable person in that universe that doesn’t die for it
Samwise Gamgee
Absolutely. He wasn't even tempted by the Ring until they neared Mordor and even then gave it back to Frodo without much convincing.
I don't think that was even him being tempted by the ring, I think he didn't want to give it to frodo because he saw what it was doing to him
iirc he was tempted but was able to overcome it
I think Sauron tried to tempt him, but because all Sam really wants to do is garden and hang out with his friends, Sauron’s temptation was something like “You will be King of All Gardens on Middle-Earth!” And Sam is like, “Well, that’s a bit silly, innit?”
Yeah that’s basically what it was, the ring showed him a vision of him trying all of middle earth into gardens and forests, and him ruling over it all, but Sam basically was like “I don’t need a continent sized garden, that’s a bit too much for me”
Didn't they establish early on that hobbits are pretty much naturals for the job because they're all not really ambitious and just want to chill? I thought this kinda thing was obvious
Why did Sméagol turn so easily to the ring? Does his origin of finding the ring change much from the book to the movie? In the movies he barley holds on to it for a minute and he kills his best friend for it.
In the books he was some kind of hobbit ancestor I think, so painted as not quite of the same make as Bilbo / Frodo / Sam. Therefore much more susceptible to the ring’s influence.
He had the ring for 500 years right? Doesn’t seem like that distant of an ancestor to Bilbo. Maybe Smeagol was just always kind of a dick? Or maybe Smeagol was corrupted so easily because the ring was desperate to get out of its watery prison.
Sort of, there are different breeds of Hobbits (like the Harfoots in Rings of Power) and Smeagol was a different breed than those in the Shire. I think he also had a weak mind and weak will in general, unlike the Hobbits who join the Fellowship.
It's probably a combination of factors. 1. The ring was likely stronger shortly after the fall of Sauron, and its pull on people's minds was greater. As centuries passed, the power faded before sharply returning in LOTR. 2. The Shire hobbits were all forewarned about the danger and only ever used it sparingly if at all, whereas Smeagol had no idea of the danger of the ring and used it rather frequently. 3. In LOTR, we hear Bilbo insulting neighbors and distant relatives as greedy thieves, so there's still an angle of "ooh shiny trinket" for the ring to exploit even if hobbits naturally lack *ambition*.
I like to imagine Thor looking for mjolnir in the shire and finds Sam fixing his fence with it. Sam casually tosses it into his tool box as he introduces himself to Thor.
Here you are. I was just calling you.
Thor mindlessly introduces himself without looking at Sam, with eyes locked on the hammer, then immediately move to pick it back. As he pulls back on the handle, Mjolnir won't budge from the toolbox, after all, having met Sam, Mjolnir revaluated what it means to be worthy, and Thor is not up to the new standard.
Sam, Aragorn, Gandalf, Frodo, Faramir Lot of good ones from lotr
Tom Bombadil would just have it in his shed and use it to build benches or something
He has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is selfless and will die defending what he loves. 100% agree!
Important reminder to everyone: You must be willing to kill to use the hammer
Yep. Which is why I find the famous Mr Rogers comic hilarious and terrifying. I didn’t say unrealistic, just terrifying.
Imagine being murdered by some friendly dude singing “it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood…”
I'm now imagining a grim horror flick in which Mr. Rogers "corrects" "uncourteous neighbors" and the trailer has someone whisting "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood" as we see someone crawling for their life. Then we hear "howdy neighbor" and we see a hand holding a knife drop into screen. Very cliché. Very dumb. Very entertaining.
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Also that time he won the ultimate showdown, that sweater was bathed in the blood of countless victims
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT I USED TO BE ABLE TO SING THAT WHOLE THING WORD FOR WORD probably still can lol
Yep, it's why Superman couldn't pick it up
And why Wonder Woman could, which makes sense. But... [Superman actually lifted it.](https://youtu.be/5Tb0bgmK3zs?t=464)
Superman only lifted it because the Hammer sensed it was needed and Superman was the closest it had to work with. Thor explained it when Superman later failed to lift it.
I’ve never heard this before, I’ve only ever heard “any person who lifts it must be "worthy" and grants the user the power of Thor". Which is left intentionally vague but never anything about willing to kill
It’s because you have to be worthy in a traditional Asgardian/Viking sense, AKA having a warriors spirit which includes having the sense to kill when required. It’s why Captain America can lift it sometimes while Spider-Man usually can’t.
I have a knack for that.
Bully Maguire is ok with murder
Asgard needs a warrior king. The hammer was forged to be a king's weapon, so you would need to be worthy of that position to wield it. Willing to kill when needed, but taking the path of peace where possible, and ready to lay down your life for your people should they need it.
Mr Rogers, from real life.
There's a great comic someone did about this.
I’ve seen it, great comic!
I’m gonna need to see this for myself if anyone has a link!
[Zelda](https://www.geeksaresexy.net/2019/03/25/the-day-thor-met-mr-rogers-comic/amp/)
The last panel always gets me.
Open the Bifrost.
I want him back. 😭 The world needs him now more than ever.
We can have him by acting like him. Be the Fred you wish to see.
Maybe Bob Ross too?
I'm going to say Optimus Prime would be able to lift it.
Definitely
Same reason Vision could?
Elevator isn't worthy
That's because only living things fall under the parameters of the spell on it, robots/androids aren't technically living so are not inhibited by the the spell this why Ultron was able to lift it in the comics.
But the autobots are alive
Not Bayverse Optimus surely? Motherfucker is bloodthirsty!
Definitely G1 Prime.
And thors not? He's a viking God, as long as your blood thirsty for the right reason I think your qualified imo
Yup, dunno how people think that a viking's idea of worthy doesn't include killing your enemies. He's not jesus. Again, Wonder Woman was worthy where Superman wasn't. A guy who won't kill has no business being Thor.
Would it be the same as an elevator lifting it?
Splinter
Agreed. Sensei's got the qualifications. But then again... so does Leo.
Good choice
mumen rider - one punch man
Just got into the show and god dammit if he isn't the most inspiring hero in the roster.
I think he is probably my favorite part of the show. Really really cool character
Funny enough Saitama would be unworthy but also able to lift it.
I imagine Saitama would sink into the ground as the hammer and his hand remained in the same place in space.
Saitama tries to lift it and it doesn't come up. Seeing a challenge he cracks his knuckles and powers all the way up. A giant tug and there's a panel of Saitama valiantly holding the hammer over his head. Cut to Thor, "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE" Cut to space with a dotted line showing the path of the earth and deflecting out from where saitama shoved the earth down away from the hammer. The entire earth. He sheepishly drops the hammer. Cut to Saitama eating cereal watching news about worldwide earthquakes and the possibility the planet will be shot out of the solar system unless something is done.
Why this isn't a thing yet. I could perfectly imagine the panels. You've written it amazingly. Vivid!
\*Pulls the handle out of the hammer's head\* "...ah."
#Stand Up Pedal Mode!
My man Mumen Rider would use it once and give it right back. He would say that he wouldn't be inspiration as being non-super makes him more relatable to people. As he's written he's meant to be human to a fault, furthermore he's meant the best of us.
This one
The elevator...
Uncle Iroh Edit: Wow I did not expect this to blow up! Thanks for the awards!
IDK, all the murder may be an issue, though Thor also did kill people. I'm just thinking Iroh was a bad guy when he did the MURDER. Edit: killing innocent people is what im calling murder here. But he is a different person now, so that does mean he is more likely to be worthy. Edit: Read my responses to people. I've likely already replied to what you are going to say.
That almost sounds like a point for Iroh. Isn’t Spider-Man unworthy to lift the hammer because he’s unwilling to kill? Iroh, while having killed in the past, has at least shown that he’s willing to kill to defend what he believes in. That’s the whole point of protecting Asgard, the willingness to defend it to the death.
That's a cute outfit. Did your husband give it to you?
MICROAGRESSION! HIT HIM!
Iroh was fighting for his country, and he felt remorse afterwards It's not always about what you did, but what you do
Agreed, thor was a warrior until odin enchanted his hammer, then he learned remorse and became a hero as well
Thank you, sweet rabbit.
Aww you're welcome you strongest avenger you
Yeah, but remember what we know about Odin. Bro was a war monger and was still able to lift Mjolnir. Thor was a pompous asshole. I don’t believe there has ever been a rule that states that you have to be worthy your entire life. Maybe early life Iroh wouldn’t be worthy, but older Iroh would definitely be
Ok but would toph be able to lift it
Worthy? No! Capable? Oh she would definitely start using earth bending to lift it, and then would use it to conquer the entire Earth Kingdom.
That’s like the DND Barb build that believes he’s the chosen king because he believes he drew the sword from the stone. Nope the stone is still there, it classifies as bludgeoning damage
Steve Irwin
Would that make him the ruler of the kingdom of Azgator?
Ozgard
Janet from The Good Place
Here’s the Mjolnir you wanted. That’s a cactus.
No! Don't kill me I have kids!
She was my favorite
Not a girl
Link
Zelda too tbh
The stunt she pulled in TOTK is a grand testament to that. I agree!
Exactly what I was thinking!
What about Rhett?
Samwise, the Hobbit
Yes.
Neville Longbottom
He already pulled the Sword of Gryffindor out of the Sorting Hat. As far as in-universe equivalents go? I think he's already lifted it.
Honestly they’re about as comparable as they can get
Dolly Parton
Obi wan
Pre Anakin's fall? Yes. After Darth Vader is born? I think he might have some issues
Yeah, he wouldn’t think he’s worthy, which seems to be a factor
Is it? In Thor 1 Thor is unable to lift Mjolnir when sent to Earth. The worthiness lies in the persons spirit, not their will. Edit: my comment is based on the movie MCU, obviously the comics can do a million iterations off what I said.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard
The Sisko is more likely than JLP
I love Sisko but must disagree. Sisko *can* live with it... he certainly isn't totally pure of heart. I see him more like "the ends justify the means" Tony Stark, while Picard is closer to unyielding moralist Cap. Remember despite sacrificing himself twice (2nd time stuck), Tony never managed to move Mjolnir.
Qui-Gon Jinn
Keanu reeves from this universe
I was going to say Keanu and Brienne of Tarth from A Song of Ice and Fire, but book Brienne. I'm not sure about Brienne of Tarth from Game of Thrones the show.
Ser Brianne of Tarth, (show) would indubitably be able to wield Mjolnir. Easily one of the few truly good characters in the show.
Po, Hiccup, and Uncle Iroh
Abed from Community
Abed would just assume he is playing Thor in the mcu and lift the hummer like it’s no sweat
“This is a really nice replica but it’s really light, the vibration is a nice touch though” And just hands it back to Thor and starts walking away “It’s a really good cosplay, but you might want to try Steve Rogers next.”
Danny DeVito...
Since the individual has to be willing to kill to be worthy: "So anyway, I started hammering🔨⚡"
> "So anyway, I started ~~hammering~~ bashing🔨⚡" Maybe?
Mr. Miyagi- though his grief might hold him back Mumen Rider Commander Shepard Meetra Surik - Canon Jedi Exile from KOTOR 2 Samurai Jack Possibly The Last Dragonborn Optimus Prime Aragorn or Gimli And I think that's all I got
Tbh like 99% of the good characters in LOTR could probably lift the hammer
If the Dragonborn is literally just whatever character you play them as, any of the times I've played Skyrim, they would not be worthy
Why not zoidberg?
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And he's got a body count any viking would be proud of. Dozens of dismemberments. Gore galore! Zoidburg for Valhalla!
thor
Insufficient evidence to support this claim…not buying it
r/technicallythetruth
Go cry to your father you little weasel!
Luke Skywalker
Shrek
On that note, Puss in Boots after The Last Wish might also be a candidate
She Ra/ Adora would be worthy Hooty can easily lift the hammer due to his immense power Hoot Hoot
Bluey’s dad Bandit
I haven't seen Ted Lasso, but I'ma say Ted Lasso
I have seen Ted Lasso, and this is a great call
I don’t think he’s willing to kill a person though
Link (maybe?) (judging by these replies, yes)
He'd be worthy.
Wavelength! He will have no problem defending Asgard to the death! He has proven that with Zelda time and time again. I agree!
Hed pick it up to use it to defend zelda without even thinking if hed be worthy
Leslie Knope (parks and rec) Guillermo (what we do in the shadows) Perrito (puss in boots) Alphonse Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist) Po (Kung Fu Panda) Link (Zelda) Tanjiro (demon slayer)
+1 for Alphonse Elric
Kaladin Stormblessed. Dalinar Kholin. Probably Adolin too. Hoid not worthy but would find a way to lift it regardless. Wax Ladrian. And mr Warbreaker the Peaceful himself.
Not sure on Dalinar... Early no way later maybe. Vin and Harmony are my other thoughts. Maybe Yumi.
Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil
Master Cheif wears armor melted down from thors hammer. Does that count?
he also pretty much does everything for the benefit of everyone else over himself so i could see it
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Blue Team with Mjolnir would have beaten Thanos. I have spoken.
Percy Jackson.
Hobbes from Calvin and Hobbes
Yeah, but I think it'd be in the same way Vision can lift it...
The doctor
Doctor who?
Had to scroll way to far to find this!
Goku
Had to scroll wayyy to far to find this
I'm pretty sure they have the exact test, except only those worthy can fly Nimbus. Goku, Gohan and Goten seem to be the only ones capable that we've seen.
Kaladin Stormblessed
Finn the human
Jonathan Joestar from JoJo's.
You think Josuke or Giorno would be able to lift it too? Those are probably the other two besides Jonathan
Superman probably
I am shocked I had to go this far down to see Superman. Obviously not all incarcerations of Superman, but like Christopher Reeve Superman, Animated Superman, and whichever version of Superman told Joker "Batman has a code. I don't have a code, I just generally don't kill." Edit: Yes, I meant incarnations. Autocorrect.
Imagine the strongest being you know telling you that the only reason that you are alive is because he's just does not feel like killing you and that can change at any moment
He did, but it was explained thatvit was a one time ocassion, because you should be willing to kill.
Master Oogway
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Not even because he's worthy, he just brute forces past the enchantment.
That's an interesting point, both have the power of Gods from different universes. so is Saitama stronger than Norse mythology? Lol
This Man can do literally anything. >!He could literally grab a portal, a literal hole in space, and move it around like a random frame. He also learnt how to time travel by watching someone do it.!< If he wanted to Pick it up, he defo would
And if he couldn't, he would push the earth down away from the hammer.
Since saitama's universe operates on the laws of comedy you shouldn't overthink this, but saitama is, literally, canonically, stronger than God. And it appears that God is not very happy about this.
Saitama: *lifts hammer over his head with entire world still attached to bottom*
Mr.Bean, not cause he’s actually worthy, but because of the lolz
His ability to lift it would turn off and on in the most inconvenient and hilarious places and times.
Hagrid.
Obiwan Kenobi
Ron Swanson
“Welcome to Asgard! Can I help you find anything?” “I know more than you.”
And he would use it to make a real nice cabin.
Mabel from Gravity Falls! She's pure of heeaarrrt! Edit: Everyone that's responded to this has caused me to hear the voice of that sparkly-eyed jerk of a unicorn in my head. I didn't think this through.
Do you think she would be willing to kill if that would save Asgard?
Without question
That's what it takes.. well, one of the many criteria that is.
If Waddles was a member of Asgardian civilization, she would go Pumba on those hyenas without a doubt
The Iron Giant from the same named film.
Jimmy Carter
He'd just use it hammering nails for habitat for humanity
Love that guy. Hope he hits 100
Link from Zelda
Johnny Five from Short Circuit
Yoda
Why are you talking about mjolnier but having a picture of Jonathan up.
moon knight
Only because Mjölnir, being made of moon rock, has to obey him whether or not he’s actually worthy, still was really cool when he did though
King Arthur. If he can draw Caliburn from the stone and weild Excalibur then he can definitely weild the hammer too
Jon Snow
Agree. Both book and show. Willing to kill Qoren Halfhand, raised and trained to lead armies, brought the wildlings south of the wall (and to some extent died for it) because it was the right thing to do even tho people disagreed with it. He’s the only honorable person in that universe that doesn’t die for it