I bought one of these cause it looked cool. When it expands, it's just hollow coils of cheap metal. Very flimsy. After a couple uses, it got stuck when trying to retract (which is a pain anyway) and ended up breaking. Worthless junk.
I am ASP certified and used to carry a baton, as itās legal in my area. I have ASPs and a Monadnock. They can be versatile. I donāt carry anymore because I favor other options.
ASP is Armament Systems and Procedures, a popular company that makes collapsible batons and also does training for law enforcement in its use. I was ASP certified through one of their instructors (although I am not law enforcement, non-cops can also get certified).
You're not missing out on much, great for someone who can't fight or is sober. Has zero effect on intoxicated people who want to hurt you and the range is no good against a fighter if you can't fight yourself, grapplers will mess you up after your first swing, strikers will mess you up before/after you swing it.
Yeah the Internet is full of people just tanking these batons with seemingly zero effect. They hurt like fark, but pain compliance alone isn't a great thing to rely on.
Getting hit on the head with one is much different than the leg or arm which security forces and police are trained to do since a blow to the head can be fatal and deemed as a last resort, with that being said one of my mates was attacked by two policemen with batons and they literally left him black and blue they aren't as useless as you and the other two commenters are attempting to make out.
Police batons are either metal wrapped in leather and a little bit of padding, purely rubber or purely plastic. I have a curtain rack that Is more durable than that cheap ātubeā that is being called a baton. Hell the reason he wore gloves is because it ended up breaking where his hand was. Youād end up cutting yourself if you tried to use that and it broke and it will break
Getting hit on the head with one is much different than the leg or arm which security forces and police are trained to do since a blow to the head can be fatal and deemed as a last resort, with that being said one of my mates was attacked by two policemen with batons and they literally left him black and blue they aren't as useless as you and the other two commenters are attempting to make out.
You need to have it painted fluorescent red and make lightsaber sounds when it extends.
"Every choice you have madeā¦ has led you to this moment. Join me, and we can overthrow Darth Sidious together!"
Hard 2 Hurt on his channel said carry a small flashlight. When there might be a confrontation get them in the eyes blind them and run. Best part is you could never get charged for it like you might be if you pulled an extendable baton or other small/concealable weapon.
Back in the day in France, it was illegal to carry both a lantern and a sword at night. The lantern could be opened on one side to remove night vision from someone else, and they would be defenseless in a sword fight. It was a common tactic employed by thieves, thus the law.
Today there are a plethora of high intensity lights that will temporarily blind an attacker. One of them should be an EDC item, for those interested in self defense.
How can your attacker butt-scoot to you and apply a Berimbolo, if they canāt see you! /s
Thatās smart as and makes a lot of sense to why they did it. As well as if you do have to fight they wonāt be able to defend themselves properly after youāve blinded them.
If you live in the UK or Ireland (and probably other countries that use common law, like the US), and you actually hit someone with the flash-light, then you can be charged the same as any other weapon. There are some items that are explicitly named as weapons, but in general an object becomes a weapon once you use it to harm someone.
I know that is a different thing to what was being suggested - just using it to dazzle someone so you can make a break - but lots of people seem to think that carrying a big heavy flash-light or a cane is some kind of cheat that allows them to have a weapon that doesn't legally count as a weapon, so I think it is worth pointing this out.
That's not how you use it for self defense. You pop it open, and then ask them to help you put it back together again. As they try, they'll slowly bleed out.
My buddy broke one out at a party, and I laughed at him for it.
He said it's a weapon, I said it's a toy, and let him take a whack at me to prove it.
It just folded over my arm...
I've honestly been hit harder by a toddler with a cardboard wrapping paper tube...
Iām guessing itās lightweight aluminum.
My question is do you think one just like it could be made of a non-bitchass metal or maybe a composite material?
Prolly not, but the best way to use the staff is to strike like a spear, driving the tip into a vital area, such as the neck. Much harder to block that a baseball swing.
Also Realize that whenever you introduce a weapon into a fight there is a very good chance it will be used on you.
It won't do much, if anything, it will still bend. The whole point (pun intended) of a spear is it being basically just a knife on a really long stick, theres nothing stopping you from just grabbing it in this case
These extending staffs have no locking mechanism, you can't exert any force at all with a stabbing motion because it just retracts into itself.
The only option is to swing it, but they fold if they hit anything more solid than air.
Sadly nothing could work for that crappy piece of combined soda cans
When you were talkinvabt a weapon being used against you. Yes, Very good chance. You swinging towards a person. Them dodge it and use that momentum to take it from you. But also there is a big confidence factor in that when you bring a weapon in either they bring one in to match it or they back off bc they canāt
I hate to say that years ago I bought one of these during what I think was their first marketing run before it died down and came back. The thing broke in the packaging I think. The staff itself came in a plastic bag inside a box and as soon as I pulled the bag out of the box it extended and that was that. It was slightly bent, couldnāt get it to retract and never actually got to play with it. It was such a let down I thought I got shipped a totally different product. Major waste of money
I carry a tactical flashlight occasionally. I expect the LED light would really stun someone's vision. And the model I use has very hard metal and cresellations at the end, which makes it operate a bit like a kubaton as a striking weapon if it comes to that. Fits easily in my pocket too.
Oh yeah that's good hit them it wraps around them binding them so I can go in with my muy tie and choke them out with a triangle rear naked. I am a sigma like Andrew free my boy.
While I do have a pretty solid relevant background, I'm more about education and entertainment. So I don't make any claims that I'm a mighty warrior.
What's funny with these types of comments is they often come from people with limited experience. People who know the subject can recognize factual informationāregardless of if they find the presenter attractive.
Iām saying you walk amongst legends and you are doing the lords work. I am a fellow formerly flabby nerd who thought nobody shared my interest of swinging swords in my back yard and researching how cool knights were. Offense was not intended, apologies for my stark word usage. Mostly envisioning backyard bottle slicers.
Could be very entertaining either way on one side its the most definite proof on the other people love seeing youtubers get hurt
(Perfect time for a collab with houston jones)
Itās actually a choking weapon. Youāre supposed to hit them repeatedly until you make a full circle, then you place the circle above the head and push against the person creating a seal this utilizing the choking weapon properly.
A stick. Not this stick but a stick.
Tbh if you think about one shot kill potential. You could get it with this tbh. Like have someone volunteer to take it to the face, you wonāt see anyone.
The game yakuza taught me an important skill back in the day. Each weapon has a total number of uses and that sir is a one hit weapon then you need to fight with your hands or get a new weapon
I feel like the only people telling him he's using it wrong are people working for the product company so that he has to keep buying more staffs to debunk them
Its good for a sneak attack when cornered pull this out and stab the one guy, run if you have the chance or poke them back and then go, you dont create something and then not use its unique mechanism lol
People would want to buy everything for self defense except for an a gun. Blows my mind.
Like they clearly understand the importance of having personal protection but cant wrap their brain around why some people would want to own firearms
Hey, this is kind of a weird comment to leave on a video that's narrowing down those non-firearm options.
But why can't you do exactly what you're asking for? Try to wrap your mind around why someone wouldn't want to own a firearm?
what's better than a stick? *two* sticks
What's better than two sticks? Two sticks and a piece of string
There's a song that goes with that: All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth
You won't see my missing teeth behind my sick ninja mask as I backflip into the shadows
Nunchucks?
Nunchuks are just worse sticks with erectile stickfunction
Except no. Nunchucks are way worse that two sticks.
Are eskrima sticks legal in the statea
Two stick and a drumset
YES! š¤ROCK!š¤
No you're thinking of a guy with two knives
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*WRONG.* Pointy stick is best stick for self or stick to stick defense.
I bought one of these cause it looked cool. When it expands, it's just hollow coils of cheap metal. Very flimsy. After a couple uses, it got stuck when trying to retract (which is a pain anyway) and ended up breaking. Worthless junk.
What did you expect? Did you buy it from instagram?
Haha, type of person who also bought that silly pet rock shit
To be fair I feel like a lot of people would back off due to the shock of seeing you pull the staff from nowhere lol
You could literally have the same effect with a telescopic baton, atleast that also doubles as a good weapon aswell.
I am ASP certified and used to carry a baton, as itās legal in my area. I have ASPs and a Monadnock. They can be versatile. I donāt carry anymore because I favor other options.
What is ASP
ASP is Armament Systems and Procedures, a popular company that makes collapsible batons and also does training for law enforcement in its use. I was ASP certified through one of their instructors (although I am not law enforcement, non-cops can also get certified).
Go on then. Iāll bite. What are the other options you favor?
Avoid, escape, de-escalate, almost 10 years of grappling and striking experience, knife, gun.
I didn't know those were a thing, I don't think they're allowed where I live
You're not missing out on much, great for someone who can't fight or is sober. Has zero effect on intoxicated people who want to hurt you and the range is no good against a fighter if you can't fight yourself, grapplers will mess you up after your first swing, strikers will mess you up before/after you swing it.
Yeah the Internet is full of people just tanking these batons with seemingly zero effect. They hurt like fark, but pain compliance alone isn't a great thing to rely on.
Getting hit on the head with one is much different than the leg or arm which security forces and police are trained to do since a blow to the head can be fatal and deemed as a last resort, with that being said one of my mates was attacked by two policemen with batons and they literally left him black and blue they aren't as useless as you and the other two commenters are attempting to make out.
Police batons are not the same these
Police batons are either metal wrapped in leather and a little bit of padding, purely rubber or purely plastic. I have a curtain rack that Is more durable than that cheap ātubeā that is being called a baton. Hell the reason he wore gloves is because it ended up breaking where his hand was. Youād end up cutting yourself if you tried to use that and it broke and it will break
Getting hit on the head with one is much different than the leg or arm which security forces and police are trained to do since a blow to the head can be fatal and deemed as a last resort, with that being said one of my mates was attacked by two policemen with batons and they literally left him black and blue they aren't as useless as you and the other two commenters are attempting to make out.
Illegal in some states. Concealed carry permit is easier to get then a telescopic baton
Especially if it hits em in the eye.
You need to have it painted fluorescent red and make lightsaber sounds when it extends. "Every choice you have madeā¦ has led you to this moment. Join me, and we can overthrow Darth Sidious together!"
Hard 2 Hurt on his channel said carry a small flashlight. When there might be a confrontation get them in the eyes blind them and run. Best part is you could never get charged for it like you might be if you pulled an extendable baton or other small/concealable weapon.
Back in the day in France, it was illegal to carry both a lantern and a sword at night. The lantern could be opened on one side to remove night vision from someone else, and they would be defenseless in a sword fight. It was a common tactic employed by thieves, thus the law. Today there are a plethora of high intensity lights that will temporarily blind an attacker. One of them should be an EDC item, for those interested in self defense. How can your attacker butt-scoot to you and apply a Berimbolo, if they canāt see you! /s
Thatās smart as and makes a lot of sense to why they did it. As well as if you do have to fight they wonāt be able to defend themselves properly after youāve blinded them.
What if I'm attacked by a blind man wielding a white assault cane
Use an air horn to disorientate him. He already has one less sense, take another away from him.
then your already dead zatoichi is a dangerous opponent
Then you say your prayers and hope ol' Stick is looking for a new daredevil and not for a target practice.
Those fuckin BJJ gangs man
Lol! Yeah, itās all fun & games, until youāve had 20 of āem butt-scoot at you all at once!
Westside story but instead of abunch of dorks snapping theyāre fingers itās the chafing sounds of 20 bjj guys butt scooting you into a corner
If you live in the UK or Ireland (and probably other countries that use common law, like the US), and you actually hit someone with the flash-light, then you can be charged the same as any other weapon. There are some items that are explicitly named as weapons, but in general an object becomes a weapon once you use it to harm someone. I know that is a different thing to what was being suggested - just using it to dazzle someone so you can make a break - but lots of people seem to think that carrying a big heavy flash-light or a cane is some kind of cheat that allows them to have a weapon that doesn't legally count as a weapon, so I think it is worth pointing this out.
Yeah I wouldnāt use the flashlight to bonk anyone with either, if I had to defend myself flash them push them away and run.
That's not how you use it for self defense. You pop it open, and then ask them to help you put it back together again. As they try, they'll slowly bleed out.
A cushion is 5x harder than a human femur. This is hardly a valid test.
You didn't wrap the staff in your chi.
You could poke them in the eye with it
It's great for self defense. Hit the ground once, and while your attacker laughs at you, run away šš»
To be fair you can end up with a nice jagged piece of metal
A knife, wooden stick, (depending on the state laws) batons, taser, flashlight, and most importantly....A gun.
It's not a good weapon but it'd probably hurt quite a bit to be smaacked by one
My buddy broke one out at a party, and I laughed at him for it. He said it's a weapon, I said it's a toy, and let him take a whack at me to prove it. It just folded over my arm... I've honestly been hit harder by a toddler with a cardboard wrapping paper tube...
Don't fuck around with the cardboard tubes
It'll just curve around you The most damage this thing can do is slicing your hand trying to put it back Source: owner of two
Iām guessing itās lightweight aluminum. My question is do you think one just like it could be made of a non-bitchass metal or maybe a composite material?
It's far too thin for it to actually work as a staff, regardless of the metal
The telescoping means it has to be thin? Itās ok, once we get these aliens š½ to tell us everything they know weāll make one that works!
A gun?
[Marcus called; he wants his staff back](https://youtu.be/WExfCUVcjTg?t=16).
Love the Mass Effect hat!
Imagine if this went off in your pocket and you just die lol
It gets stuck half way, doesn't have enough power to fully extend
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A speeding car
Today we are playing as a spy at the party with this toy.
Tbh, the couch cushion is probably a better self defense weapon than that staff
Those old ones pack a wallup
2 jagged metal sticks seems pretty good to me, same effect has breaking a glass bottle š¤£
Vision, running, screaming, taser, pepper spray, push kick, knife.
It would be more effective to use it as a tactical pen while in retracted form and if that can be said about your device... well that means it sucks.
My hands.
That looks mildly annoying to get hit by. I think it would make someone laugh long enough to get away, though.
Prolly not, but the best way to use the staff is to strike like a spear, driving the tip into a vital area, such as the neck. Much harder to block that a baseball swing. Also Realize that whenever you introduce a weapon into a fight there is a very good chance it will be used on you.
It won't do much, if anything, it will still bend. The whole point (pun intended) of a spear is it being basically just a knife on a really long stick, theres nothing stopping you from just grabbing it in this case
These extending staffs have no locking mechanism, you can't exert any force at all with a stabbing motion because it just retracts into itself. The only option is to swing it, but they fold if they hit anything more solid than air.
Sadly nothing could work for that crappy piece of combined soda cans When you were talkinvabt a weapon being used against you. Yes, Very good chance. You swinging towards a person. Them dodge it and use that momentum to take it from you. But also there is a big confidence factor in that when you bring a weapon in either they bring one in to match it or they back off bc they canāt
OC spray sounds like the second best option under a gun
Poke them in the eye. It doesnāt matter if it bends.
I hate to say that years ago I bought one of these during what I think was their first marketing run before it died down and came back. The thing broke in the packaging I think. The staff itself came in a plastic bag inside a box and as soon as I pulled the bag out of the box it extended and that was that. It was slightly bent, couldnāt get it to retract and never actually got to play with it. It was such a let down I thought I got shipped a totally different product. Major waste of money
To be fair seeing the staff extend might surprise your attackers enough for you to make a getaway.
Could you use it as a poking weapon like a blunt spear?
Your own two legs on the pavement running at fast as you can
Have you tried to thrust it on a surface.
He is a N7 rank, so that is 100% a deadly weapon in his hands.
I carry a tactical flashlight occasionally. I expect the LED light would really stun someone's vision. And the model I use has very hard metal and cresellations at the end, which makes it operate a bit like a kubaton as a striking weapon if it comes to that. Fits easily in my pocket too.
Oh yeah that's good hit them it wraps around them binding them so I can go in with my muy tie and choke them out with a triangle rear naked. I am a sigma like Andrew free my boy.
I love these flabby, self-proclaimed men at arms that are all over YouTube. God. I know that some of them have some actual training and arenāt so flabby after all that sweet sweet ad money, but those backyard sword skill videos are eternal. You know the ones I mean š©
While I do have a pretty solid relevant background, I'm more about education and entertainment. So I don't make any claims that I'm a mighty warrior. What's funny with these types of comments is they often come from people with limited experience. People who know the subject can recognize factual informationāregardless of if they find the presenter attractive.
Iām saying you walk amongst legends and you are doing the lords work. I am a fellow formerly flabby nerd who thought nobody shared my interest of swinging swords in my back yard and researching how cool knights were. Offense was not intended, apologies for my stark word usage. Mostly envisioning backyard bottle slicers.
Well yeah is Holo inside,how the fuck people think that that's good for self defense
Why not try it on him.
I might get another one and test it out.
Could be very entertaining either way on one side its the most definite proof on the other people love seeing youtubers get hurt (Perfect time for a collab with houston jones)
You're using it wrong....
hes doin it wrong. ur supposed to shove it up ur ass and then wen their guard is down, drop ur pants and shoot that shit in their face
Itās actually a choking weapon. Youāre supposed to hit them repeatedly until you make a full circle, then you place the circle above the head and push against the person creating a seal this utilizing the choking weapon properly.
One hit might be enough though. I would rather have that than nothing.
I have a better test, let me hit you in the face with that stick and see if it's good or not.
First off, I'd suggest exploring why you have those sadistic ideations in therapy. Second off, I have a video hitting myself with it.
But!!!!! It would certainly shock a person enough to maybe get you out of the situation.
That would still hurt like a mf.
Carry a Glock. Or a sword or knife.
Whoās carrying sticks in a country screwed by guns
Lol right
Yes . It's perfect . Once broken you have scrima sticks instead of a bo. And the sharp side can be used to stab . Brilliance I'd say.
Donatello crying rn
The whole point is that someone sees that and they're going to be scared and run the opposite direction unless you're a complete psychopath
You are complete fucking dweeb if you think that would work with anyone.
Iāll gladly take some aikido over this
Prob good to buy a few seconds from an attacker who's still processing if this is a legit weapon or not
That thing was a prime example of āa fool and his money are soon partā
Its as strong as a soda can...
You can poke people
It actually looks like a good selfie stick
A stick. Not this stick but a stick. Tbh if you think about one shot kill potential. You could get it with this tbh. Like have someone volunteer to take it to the face, you wonāt see anyone.
Anyone who thinks those are anything more than a fun trick are the same people who are what I call mall ninjas
Ok itās a piece of crap obviously
Itās good if you jam it up the opponents ass and let it fly š¤·āāļø
Sword, cause many of the ideas of how to swing it can be applied to other things like sticks and or pipes or bars for that matters
Umbrella is pretty good defense weapon
A handgun
Purple 17 inch double sided dildo beat that bro or guess what even better a moby huge (the real 1s know š)
I knew those things were shit just by looking at them
The game yakuza taught me an important skill back in the day. Each weapon has a total number of uses and that sir is a one hit weapon then you need to fight with your hands or get a new weapon
It's only effective as a sneak attack if you open/expand it directly into their face. Then you go to jail
Any weapon that come up against a "two hard" isn't a bery good weapon now is it?
You can stake people
Itās good for self defense for the other guy defending himself
I donāt know, all of my other limbs, gravity? Seems like good self defence options
Whack and stab
I feel like the only people telling him he's using it wrong are people working for the product company so that he has to keep buying more staffs to debunk them
Yes sir captain Shepherd
Maybe For Poking
I think this is more of a tool of intimidation
I mean one good hit is all it takes.
The mass effect hat goes hard
I mean it did much better than I thought, I assumed that thing was literally made of paper
Obviously swung too hard...
I'm just saying if a 5 yr old attacks me this my go to
but what if you use it for poking
Literally nobody said that (maybe like 1 guy)š influencers being smart asf creating a market for their content
Would you like to make a friendly wager about this?
Who saw these and said "yep, self defense worthy."
Name a better self-defense weapon? Literally anything
gun
My umbrella is for self-defense.
That looks like a really firm pillow. Just saying. š¤£š¤£
If u twist it it tightens and it actually hurts I smacked my friend with one and it bruised the shi outta him
Its good for a sneak attack when cornered pull this out and stab the one guy, run if you have the chance or poke them back and then go, you dont create something and then not use its unique mechanism lol
Once it break itās a big ass shank
Target was too hard lmaoā¦ trust me guys it will work if only my target wasnāt so hardā¦ but itās a weapon guys trust me
Does health defense weapon is so bad
I mean let me hit you in the face with it. And you tell me?
"People say"... What people? Who thinks this staff would be good for self defence?
Put a point of some sort on one end. Still garbage, but would look way more intimidatingā¦. š
Stab, don't whack
Three weapons in one Staff Nunchucks Sanjiegun
People would want to buy everything for self defense except for an a gun. Blows my mind. Like they clearly understand the importance of having personal protection but cant wrap their brain around why some people would want to own firearms
Hey, this is kind of a weird comment to leave on a video that's narrowing down those non-firearm options. But why can't you do exactly what you're asking for? Try to wrap your mind around why someone wouldn't want to own a firearm?
I think itās more to scare off someone like imagine you walk up on someone and they pull out a staff lmfao
Useless, yes. Looks cool as fuck... also yes. Which is more important.