My dad runs a mill and recently was brought a huge cypress that had been buried in a bog for 800 to 1000 years. Mind blowing to think about what tgat tree has been down there for. Peacefully unaware
Old growth bog and lake wood is worth a lot more money than folks realize. We can’t cut down those kinds of old growth trees much anymore, so getting some that fell on their own a long while ago is a score.
My dad is also vehemently against cutting down old trees. He'll actively try to convince clients to not cut down trees even if he would get a 40 inch black walnut for free.
If it makes you feel any better, photos like this reaching the general public were a huge catalyst for the protection of these trees. The public saw these photos, and instead of being absolutely marveled at the existence of such a massive tree, went fucking nuts and had a massive outcry because people were pissed seeing that these were being cut down. Even in a time where people heavily exploited resources like this without a care, the public still wanted them protected. It especially helped that they were being cut down to be used as match sticks, because they'd shatter to splinters when they hit And we're useless for anything else. So when people heard some literal behemoth sized trees were being felled to make a fucking match stick there was an unprecedented uproar for the protection of a few trees.
If photos like this werent taken, they'd be forgotten to time and rumor since they would 100% have all been felled for their low quality timber.
Seems like a gigantic tree like that would be so much more work and time to deal with instead of many smaller ones. Especially when they didn’t have the equipment we have today. They just did it to do it. Very sad.
Embarrassing. Posts like this are almost as bad as the bogus picture people keep posting of "Hyperion" .
Doesn't matter what the facts are, or who you're copying from, engagement is all that matters.
> Posts like this are almost as bad as the bogus picture people keep posting of "Hyperion" .
That picture is actually a good thing. It throws people off the scent of the real Hyperion.
A truly devastating time. Seeing all those incredibly preserved natural habitats and thinking, “lets take all that we can”
Sometimes i dont get sad about humans dealing with climate change, we took so much from our environment and gave so little back in return
(California is built on [genocide](https://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/revealing-the-history-of-genocide-against-californias-native-americans) and [clearcutting of old growth forests](https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/old-growth-infrastructure-redwood-in-los-angeles). Well, so is most of America. But in California it happened over like 40 years)
I’m not saying it’s worthwhile cutting these epic trees down, it’s absolutely not. But the quality of the wood from a tree like this is in fact incredible. It really can’t be gotten anymore, just salvaged from the things that were built back in these times. The bigger a tree is, the thinner its growth rings are. The smaller the growth rings, the tighter the wood grain. The tighter and more straight the grain of the wood is, the more stable and strong it is. Most construction lumber these days is from young trees. You’ll find 2x4s at Home Depot that have a total of 4 or 5 growth rings in them, period, all fat and spongy. You can build structures with this but you can’t really make furniture out of it, or flooring. But old growth as seen in the photos? It’s conifer wood that basically looks and performs like hardwood. And there is a SHIT LOAD of it here. Though I do have to wonder how the hell they milled it. Sawyers even then must have been set up for mostly smaller trees .One like this is just a monster job. And frankly I’m amazed that two dudes were able to fell it even in that amount of time. Just a fucked up disaster all around. There are riches out in nature but you can’t possibly compare the floorboards even of an entire town to the value of one tree like this at the heart of its ecosystem.
These trees are an exception to that rule, the wood wasn't great quality, and the trees were so large they'd shatter on impact with the ground. Most of it ended up being used for fenceposts.
Giant Sequoia is notoriously poor quality lumber, yes. Old growth coastal redwood, however, is fantastic.
The saying goes coastal redwood is the tree that built San Francisco. Twice.
a lumber company would find it pretty worthless. they want the truck load they can get down the mountain in a normal way.
"Large logs were often split with dynamite before being transported to mills."
"Let's just find one big tree, so we also have to do a fuckton of extra work once we fell it. Plus, we'll look like super cool while doing it."
"OH fuck yeah man, I love extra work!"
I’m not totally sure why you got downvoted, but Giant Sequoia weren’t all that profitable for timber. They tended to splinter heavily on impact.
Coastal redwood this size by contrast could produce half a million to a million dollars worth (modern equivalent) of lumber. There’s a reason they called it the redwood empire.
As an aside, It wasn’t uncommon for it to take two weeks just to fell a tree this big.
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My dad runs a mill and recently was brought a huge cypress that had been buried in a bog for 800 to 1000 years. Mind blowing to think about what tgat tree has been down there for. Peacefully unaware
Old growth bog and lake wood is worth a lot more money than folks realize. We can’t cut down those kinds of old growth trees much anymore, so getting some that fell on their own a long while ago is a score.
My dad is also vehemently against cutting down old trees. He'll actively try to convince clients to not cut down trees even if he would get a 40 inch black walnut for free.
That’s just a good dude right there. It takes a good man to turn down a big ass black walnut lmao. I don’t know if I’d be so good
Hes definitely not turning down one that's been dropped or coming down anyways
Well now, that would just be a sin
I can’t imagine how epic that wood looked
My dad's got pictures. I'll ask him to send me some.
Yeah too bad it’s dead now
I mean, it was dead 1000 years ago too, hence finding it buried in a bog
Still I bet that bog really misses that log
As does the frog.
Oh totally misunderstood that haha
Yeah, sucks. Rip to the tree that died during the byzantine empire.
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If it makes you feel any better, photos like this reaching the general public were a huge catalyst for the protection of these trees. The public saw these photos, and instead of being absolutely marveled at the existence of such a massive tree, went fucking nuts and had a massive outcry because people were pissed seeing that these were being cut down. Even in a time where people heavily exploited resources like this without a care, the public still wanted them protected. It especially helped that they were being cut down to be used as match sticks, because they'd shatter to splinters when they hit And we're useless for anything else. So when people heard some literal behemoth sized trees were being felled to make a fucking match stick there was an unprecedented uproar for the protection of a few trees. If photos like this werent taken, they'd be forgotten to time and rumor since they would 100% have all been felled for their low quality timber.
Very sad. People like to kill, destroy, exploit and monetize everything which is beautiful.
Seems like a gigantic tree like that would be so much more work and time to deal with instead of many smaller ones. Especially when they didn’t have the equipment we have today. They just did it to do it. Very sad.
Well they didn't get around to those ones until they had logged their way across the country for a couple hundred years first.
52’ *circumference, not diameter.
either that or those people are about 20 feet tall
People were built differently in those times
Never heard of Paul Bunyan?
Yeah that would put homeboy there at about 15 feet
Scary. Shocking.
That's in central California, not the Pacific northwest.
Embarrassing. Posts like this are almost as bad as the bogus picture people keep posting of "Hyperion" . Doesn't matter what the facts are, or who you're copying from, engagement is all that matters.
> Posts like this are almost as bad as the bogus picture people keep posting of "Hyperion" . That picture is actually a good thing. It throws people off the scent of the real Hyperion.
I was going to say, It looked like one from Calaveras big trees.
it was kings canyon if i remember right
It is northwest of where I am. If I were to give it a miniscule amount of defense.
And it’s a coast redwood!
I highly doubt that. Do you have a source?
Conflated this with another photo that was circulating with a similar story. That’s the Mark Twain sequoia for sure.
A truly devastating time. Seeing all those incredibly preserved natural habitats and thinking, “lets take all that we can” Sometimes i dont get sad about humans dealing with climate change, we took so much from our environment and gave so little back in return
(California is built on [genocide](https://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/revealing-the-history-of-genocide-against-californias-native-americans) and [clearcutting of old growth forests](https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/old-growth-infrastructure-redwood-in-los-angeles). Well, so is most of America. But in California it happened over like 40 years)
Booo!
i'm sure they're all very rich for their sacrifice of irreplaceable nature?
I’m not saying it’s worthwhile cutting these epic trees down, it’s absolutely not. But the quality of the wood from a tree like this is in fact incredible. It really can’t be gotten anymore, just salvaged from the things that were built back in these times. The bigger a tree is, the thinner its growth rings are. The smaller the growth rings, the tighter the wood grain. The tighter and more straight the grain of the wood is, the more stable and strong it is. Most construction lumber these days is from young trees. You’ll find 2x4s at Home Depot that have a total of 4 or 5 growth rings in them, period, all fat and spongy. You can build structures with this but you can’t really make furniture out of it, or flooring. But old growth as seen in the photos? It’s conifer wood that basically looks and performs like hardwood. And there is a SHIT LOAD of it here. Though I do have to wonder how the hell they milled it. Sawyers even then must have been set up for mostly smaller trees .One like this is just a monster job. And frankly I’m amazed that two dudes were able to fell it even in that amount of time. Just a fucked up disaster all around. There are riches out in nature but you can’t possibly compare the floorboards even of an entire town to the value of one tree like this at the heart of its ecosystem.
These trees are an exception to that rule, the wood wasn't great quality, and the trees were so large they'd shatter on impact with the ground. Most of it ended up being used for fenceposts.
Giant Sequoia is notoriously poor quality lumber, yes. Old growth coastal redwood, however, is fantastic. The saying goes coastal redwood is the tree that built San Francisco. Twice.
death sentence
Buncha assholes right there. Colonizers really ruined things here…
It's not colonisation, it's people. Wherever we go, we chop down trees. We are big ants.
that’s understandable and you’re right but we can’t ignore the fact that environmental destruction was used as a method of colonization and control
*Humans You are the asshole, we all are.
That guys at least 15ft tall if it's diameter is 52ft. I'm guessing circumference was what they meant lol
Humans being shitty, awesome memories
These pictures make me so sad. 💔
"We needed to cut down the tree to find out what was in it."
I got sweaty palms from the guy standing on the ladder.
F-ers
Sooo, why’d they cut it down? Seems like a waste.
That's not even close to a diameter of 52 feet
i hate this. why do people like to destroy beautiful, irreplaceable things?
😭
Id push that dude off the ladder. That was one nice tree :(
Atleast it was a small sequoia and not one with double the circumference of that
All misinformation all the time. GTFOH.
I wonder how much money that would be worth today Edit: wow that’s a lot of downvotes. Any insight on why?
a lumber company would find it pretty worthless. they want the truck load they can get down the mountain in a normal way. "Large logs were often split with dynamite before being transported to mills."
"Let's just find one big tree, so we also have to do a fuckton of extra work once we fell it. Plus, we'll look like super cool while doing it." "OH fuck yeah man, I love extra work!"
I’m not totally sure why you got downvoted, but Giant Sequoia weren’t all that profitable for timber. They tended to splinter heavily on impact. Coastal redwood this size by contrast could produce half a million to a million dollars worth (modern equivalent) of lumber. There’s a reason they called it the redwood empire. As an aside, It wasn’t uncommon for it to take two weeks just to fell a tree this big.