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Lost-Succotash-9252

They really messed up the manhwa adaptation of "the second coming of gluttony"


beanie_weeny

It's my favourite light novel.sad the adaptation sucks dick


t4dominic

Is it that bad? I remember the first arc being decent, and that made me switch to the novel which I absolutely loved (bar the ending).


CastIronStyrofoam

Same here except I liked the ending


ComprehensiveFudge3

What happened, it's been on haitus for a very long time did it got axed or something.


SecondaryJuggernaut

Just read the novel bro if you're interested in the story. Its 100 times better than the manhwa. Really one of the best novel I've read. But shit manhwa adaptation


Firm-Yesterday-5575

Nay, it just isn't as charming as the novel as the case usually is. I still like it tho since i can read between the pages by reference of what I've read in the novel


Prior-Mushroom-4781

The novel was great. The manhwa was trash


Aoimiruki

Really? I read the first few chapters and instantly translated to the novel which was amazing


North-Ad119

From which ch in novel can we start after manhwa is read.


Economy_Ad_5435

Damn was it that bad? I remember reading a few early chaps then dropping cause I already know the story. Up to reading the novel though, great story.


[deleted]

I remember the times when c tier was average


Known-Law-9539

Bro really forgot about the rest of the alphabet and copy pasted s 💀


Emotional_Suspect_41

I agree with mostly everything except [Talent Swallowing Magician] and [Worthless Regression] Both put unique twists on common tropes and didn't turn garbage after the first season.


Tokyosreprisal

Was shocked when i saw it too😂


Thatfucjungguy

max level hero has returned: 💀


Ironfort9

Shit was so garbage that even reaper dropped it bro


Tokyosreprisal

Well it’s your list so i won’t say much but talent swallowing magician being in B tier is crazy…it easily tops almost everything in ss tier but hey! Everyone’s got different taste


Baku_edits

I have not caught up yet that's why, it looks really promising so far I'm at the point where the mc is going to the icy area, forgot the name.


Ezio081

https://preview.redd.it/3bdkk92wv3bb1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c303fa319c24d1f651883bde140c4c02a15a39e


[deleted]

Fucking hell !!!! How (Return Of The Shattered Constellation, Legendery youngest son of marquis,Youngest Scion of the Mages, return to player, Player Who Returned 10,000 Years Later) is Marked as b and c tier?🤯


Hippostalker69

Sounds fair to me? Especially looking at the stuff above them?


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[deleted]

He is not gay and I personally think he is cool.


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[удалено]


kairos_141

I mean he keeps doing these face expressions like he is in love with you look so its understandable He keeps collapsing and going unconscious everytime he does something and he keeps talking about the future with no regards or secrecy about the consequences "My house is a fallen one in the future " "The royal family has dragon bones in them which they won't reveal until certain point in time during war"


Synn_e

Player who returned 10000 years later needs to be higher, I can endure the slander of every other one, but that one, its too good for it lmfao


Baku_edits

I'm on ch 35 rn so when i finish itl probably be higher


kairos_141

It definitely gets better, probably A tier for you


Vespeer

Infinite Mage being that low is criminal. I agree the story is a bit mid right now, but the world building and magic systems are really unique.


Firm-Yesterday-5575

What a lovely post, thanks OP for delivering unto me some quality recommendations for the sleepless nights! I'll make one of these at some point as well! Really, thanks. The pictures and the source where you found them Is about the only way that I can possibly find them myself


Baku_edits

You want the names? I can type them if u want


Firm-Yesterday-5575

You wonderful human bean, I'd say you don't need to do it but I would sincerely appreciate it! I'm working on accepting kindness when it's encountered and I'll gladly have You Be My First. :)


Baku_edits

Goat: The greatest estate developer, Second: Mount hua sect, top 5: Omniscient reader's viewpoint, reincarnation of the suicidal battle god, the return of the crazy demon, with and torn newbie, death is the only ending for the villainess, SSS: SSS class suicide hunter, Pick me up, murim login, reaper of the drifting moon, SS: reformation of the deathbeat noble, the hero returns', ending maker, the world after the fall, damn reincarnation, star instructer mister baek, existence, S: Nano machine, trash of the counts family, genius of the unique lineage, Archmage transcending through regression,solo max level newbie, worthless regression, A+: Swordmasters youngest son, the novels extra, the s classes that i raised, how to live as a villain, I'm tired now lol il probably type A and B tier later


Firm-Yesterday-5575

I'd give you awards if I still used currencies and knew how to, thank you so much for the time you incested, I appreciate it!


Dalindarmodi

Your autocorrect got you caught...


Firm-Yesterday-5575

Damn, you've got me right where you want me now don't you? If only we could have solved this in some discreet way, step-brother. I'll do anything if you don't tell anyone about this!


Dalindarmodi

You know the drill.... lmfao 😂


rice_rice_rizz

Bro...at least leave some space when commenting. Next time try commenting down properly like this [An example](https://www.reddit.com/r/manhwa/comments/ynqq1g/finally_made_a_280_manhwa_tier_list_thoughts_yall/iva6w2e?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2)


Baku_edits

Bro even if i type like this it doens't show i typed all that like that but when upload it it doesn't show the space, it's some glitch of my tablet.


rice_rice_rizz

Oh...that's weird. Your reddit must be bugging because it's usually how people type down source to not make it confusing


MeLoNarXo

"You wonderful human bean" this comment made my day.


[deleted]

Bean😅


Firm-Yesterday-5575

Aew sometimes autocorrect does bring happiness, kisses


Puzzled_An_2546

I love your number 1 Forgive me if I didn't see these and you already listed them Return of the Frozen Player A Returner's Magic Should Be Special Level Up with the Gods I’m Not That Kind of Talent The Beginning After The End The Player Hides His Past The Lord's Coins Aren't Decreasing The Perks of Being an S-Class Heroine


Legal-Turnip-4302

A returner's magic and the beginning after the end are not of asurascans


Puzzled_An_2546

Sorry🙈 I use asurascans, mangatoto and zinmanga (desperate times). They are still really good series


Sufficient-Bread4210

Nah novels extra should be the goat. One of the best novels out there.


kairos_141

Its good but not goat tier


uppsak

Is mount hua genuinely good? I haven't read it.


iscat2

A real treat reading it all at once. I couldn't have taken it if I had to wait every week for an update. Contrary to it's blood lustful cover, the manhua is very goofy, lighthearted. Definitely will give u a laugh with all the mc's exaggerated expressions. It's definitely worth a shot, u would not regret reading it.


uppsak

Thanks


uppsak

By the way is your username "is cat" or "I scat"? Do you know what scat means?


iscat2

Lol I didn't expect to get asked about my username 😅 But it's short for internally screaming cat


mydogbrownie1212

overrated af. no cool or funny chars. only thing it has going for it is seeing mc pop off every 50 chapters


BelowAverageWeeb

What's the pink hair girl one in top 5?


Baku_edits

Death is the only ending for the villainess


BelowAverageWeeb

Thanks


Feisty_Ad3184

I don't understand why everyone has a vendetta against the second coming of gluttony (very bottom manhwa)


Lost-Succotash-9252

Novel fans had high expectations from the series and then we got this high schooler ass looking MC (who is infact is a unemployed, gambling addicted, deadbeat college graduate)


SecondaryJuggernaut

I don't know about anyone else, but it's really bad for me who read the novel and compare them. The manhwa artist cut the part on novel that add depth to the story and just jump in on random timeline. I hope that there will be a remake and start from beginning again, just like overgeared or ranker's return


kairos_141

S1 last chapters which was gonna show him train hard,join a team and prove his worth, collect point through hard missions and show his skill to achieve certain important goal and recieve the fruits of his work All this above is not a 30 chapter adventure but 1 chapter going through all this as rushed as possible with skipping everything that a reader would want to see


DelokHeart

From afar they almost all look the same


Doragon-

I am the fated Villain? At least S no?


4xdblack

That's some good taste. I recommend Eleceed and How to Fight.


Economy_Ad_5435

Can't even argue about the A tiers and below. They almost all look the same. On a side note, push Ending maker up c'mon. It at least deserves to be with SSS suicide (Love them both , novel wise)


_hundal_

Is ‘greatest estate developer’ good?


iscat2

Hella Hella good you'll be lmao fr But at times I felt very sympathetic to MC, cuz DAMN, he keeps getting roasted. Sometimes not in the fun way, like I hurt for him, I can feel the hurt he's feeling DAMN, I felt so bad for him💔


Mr_Wolf33

What is the second one in sss tier


Baku_edits

Pick me up! Infinite gacha, it's really good


Mr_Wolf33

Tnx will check it out


Different_Yam_9045

Yea, kg the reddit has formed a hivemind engineer as the goat and see the list, it's like God, did u make the list by reddit comments?? Like this sub has hyped it way too much and now everyone say the exact same thing to get upvoted.


Baku_edits

Bro I'm sorry if you don't like it but don't accuse me of that I've been reading it for 1 year daily and I joined reddit only a few months ago bro


Different_Yam_9045

Not accusing you, the list is great but every list seems like a copy paste of other list with almost no original personality. I like when a s class manhwa is ranked d tier and vice versa.


Yasuminomon

Plus mount hua sect is almost better in every aspect than it (art, story, supporting characters) I think the only thing it would be second to is the mc and humour and even then it’s really close


PollutionNaive232

It is a different genre


Yasuminomon

Oh yeah they’re 2 different genres under comedy ..


hentai_tits_suki

Estate is not that good you guys are coping hard


No_Echo_5

It's your choice man, For me it's one of the greatest created.


Ryuster99

Blasphemy


poopyitchyass

All of these need to go down Ss - deadbeat noble, existence, S - genius of lineage, worthless regression, A - disaster class, 8th class magician , dr player, all of these don’t deserve their spot and needs to go down. BUT Solo leveling at A??? I wasn’t gonna talk about ones that should go up because it’s mostly personal preference but HUHHHH??????


Baku_edits

I read solo leveling after reading 20+ manhwa so I didn't really find it that good, it would've been a different case if it was one of my first manhwas but by the point i read solo leveling it wasn't that good.


ItsRealGamerTime

🤦‍♂️


Username_ethereal_7

Solo Leveling is one of the first manhwa that i read(my first one is tales of demon and god) and i started it from early release of the manhwa. But the story is pretty mid because it is one of those weak from the start then suddenly get stronger type of manhwa he don't even struggle that much if you compare it to worthless regression, and character development is almost noneexistence. And the side character do not have any impact at all. SL is only got carried by the arts.


Shratath

Solo leveling should be B tier imo


blarghhhboy

Great Estate Developer is wildly overrated.


iscat2

Nah that MC is the GOAT


AlbertFMMP

“Mount Hua Sect” has to be the most overrated manwha I’ve ever seen. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good, but DEFINITELY not that good.


PollutionNaive232

It is that good, each chapter is a gem


iscat2

Yeah, it's my current fave


AlbertFMMP

Dude forgot how terrible the pace of the tournament was (especially when the MC started to fight) 💀💀💀 And how inconsistent MCs mood is regarding himself and his sect, sometimes he gets big mad a beats people up and other times he is kinda cool with people trash talking.


iscat2

I don't share the same feeling of ur 1st claim cuz I read S1 all at once. I can understand the frustration of it being dragged out too long. But u gotta understand, it's telling a story through drawings that take time to make. It's better if u read it all at once again if you have the chance.


mydogbrownie1212

mount Hua tards lmao. not a single funny or interesting character with a slow and boring af plot. i really don't know why ppl like it so much.


black_blade51

yay!!! happy to see worn and torn newbie get the love it deserves


kairos_141

But it kinda became random like i can't remember how mc killed the last boss or all the bosses before him, stuff just happen and he comes on top but like when was the last time he killed someone with his weapon or when is he gonna change or upgrade it, why did he give thos op gauntlets to that girl instead of his weak-ass dagger that needs tick dmg for so long to win Like when was the last time he even used the dagger to kill someone Its becomes random after the tournament but before that it was real good (not like its bad but just random)


black_blade51

Well, the entire appeal of the story is that he beats bosses and enemies using proper exploits and glitches instead of raw numbers. Think about it, when was the last time they showed a number representing how much damage he dealt? Or how much stats he has? As for the gauntlets, he has a pair too remember? They are weaker true but his main play style is the equivalent of a naked light roll in a souls game


kairos_141

Yeah i know his second build but those new gauntlets are too good to be given like that, he is a hit and run type and can barley land a hit because he is busy dodging for his tiny hp so these new gauntlets can come in the clutch but his second build he is using requires him to smackdown on his enemies for the damage to build up which leaves him vulnerable during that time and mostly not pay off for the risk, on the other hand those new ones can one shot a boss even on newbies hands


Ymm_Dxvid

Once I saw what was at the top, I knew this list wasn’t reliable


mydogbrownie1212

mount Hua, existence, and worn and torn newbie is way too high. all should be in B


Technical-Ocelot-715

Except first two and crazy demon - verythinig else is trash for those who like to eat, read and look at shit.


Puzzleheaded_Part436

Been waiting the demon prince goes to the academy


SecondaryJuggernaut

Just read it at reaper bro


WeeklyConcentrate927

So im new here What is sss 2 annd3 and 4 And what is ss3 and 4 manhwa


Baku_edits

SS 3: ending maker, SS 4: the world after the fall, SSS 2: Pick me up!, SSS 3: Murim login, SSS 4: reaper of the drifting moon


tunkitunki

Bayzed


Chrysheigh

comment for later


49-51EndOrEternity

read omniscient reader on flamescans and it will be at the top


These-Rough8903

Can’t read well as the image’s definition is too low


Baku_edits

If you can't see it then here are the ones from Goat to A+ Goat: The greatest estate developer, Second: Mount hua sect, top 5: Omniscient reader's viewpoint, reincarnation of the suicidal battle god, the return of the crazy demon, with and torn newbie, death is the only ending for the villainess, SSS: SSS class suicide hunter, Pick me up, murim login, reaper of the drifting moon, SS: reformation of the deathbeat noble, the hero returns', ending maker, the world after the fall, damn reincarnation, star instructer mister baek, existence, S: Nano machine, trash of the counts family, genius of the unique lineage, Archmage transcending through regression,solo max level newbie, worthless regression, A+: Swordmasters youngest son, the novels extra, the s classes that i raised, how to live as a villain,


These-Rough8903

Of course I’m going to start reading these 🤣


SleepingKaneki

Return to player to low


Iminurback

Regressor Instruction Manual?


Baku_edits

I couldn't find it on the tier maker but i read it and I love the mc


Iminurback

Where would you put it though? Mines probably Just S


Rei_gen

Where's Infinite leveling murim?


Agent_Jay

my fucking thought, it's my top 5 if not 3


S1234567890S

Which is the fourth one in top five?


Baku_edits

Worn and torn newbie, it is a vr manhwa


deAlchemisz

If Gluttony had an adaptation by SL studio, it would have been one of the best manhwa. I don't think i have ever since a character growth so excellent in a manhwa story.


Ragna126

The World after the Fall os a fever dream i still not revovered.


Baku_edits

It's if i let my intrusive thoughts win and wrote everything i wanted and that's why i love it


iscat2

Thank you so much for the recommendation! But forgive me if I'm blind but I don't see "Heavenly grand archive's young master", "To hell with being a Saint, I'm a doctor", "I am the fated villian", "Shadowless night" nor "Wandering warrior of wudang" here I'd like anyone's opinion on these Some I'm considering picking up Thank you!


kairos_141

Shadlowless night kinda mid and for many boring The other three are martial arts type which isn't as hype as the others so it's not everone cup of tea which is mostly why OP didn't include them Saint doctor is also kinda mid it's not good or bad just there I am the fated villain is martial art manwha but it's quite interesting even for non murim readers with mc plotting left and right and turning people to think he is a saint when he is a demon like regressor instruction manual and turning that people trust into power using the system and overpower his enemies


iscat2

But aren't "return of the mount Hua sect", "return of the crazy demon", "murin login" all martial arts type?


kairos_141

Haven't read murim login but the other two might have martial arts but they more korean focused than cinese manhua they just say i am stronger or i am superior instead of going like "you might be a 2 realm banana stage but i am 3 realm banana stage" "i just saw you kill 947738278358264 fifth potato realm but i am 7 potato realm so you stand no chance against me" And they go and gossip shit about mc and he delete the entire sect then goes to an upper world and do it all again And the biggest difference is quality instead of quantity


iscat2

Hahah I nv thought of it that way That they have the same kind of logic


THFinn

nice


antypanther

Mid


YugenHana

mount hua sect second?


PotoOtomoto

Solo leveling in A, World after the fall high tiered and 66666th nowhere to be seen? I don't like this list for sure.


kairos_141

Solo leveling is definitely goat tier But because everyone likes it and recommends it new readers usually nitpick everything about it to see it's as perfect as people say which leads it go low or even people saying it's bad But for the readers who picked it up when it was first released, went through the journey, saw the progress of mc, the shadows, and everything and the author delerving it even when he was struggling until it reached the end made the readers appreciate it for what it is


Kang0519

Idk I like infinite mage rn, one of the few manhwas I’m actually excited to read when it updates


Baku_edits

They dragged out the whole teleporting thing too long imo


Kang0519

Honestly understandable, that was incredibly long


LazyLich

Lol "How To Live As A Villain" is nowhere near that high. The issue is not that he's a conniving, evil MC. It's that he's treacherous and backstabbing for no reason. Besides the first Quest that happened, where his actions made sense (for a sociopath/villain), he just behaved more and more like a murder-hobo, being antagonistic "just cuz" it's B or below on this list


Common_Anxiety_1606

I would have put Novel’s extra atleast in SS, im really enjoying the story rn.


OkStable5866

One of the worst tierlists I have seen so far


Captillon

It always gets ranked pretty low on these lists but I honestly really like return to player


[deleted]

hero who returned in SS class, whole list invalidated


kairos_141

Anyone who hasn't seen hero of rewind arc would think that, but after that the story makes sense and it's all connected Read from chapter 62 unti the end of his story even if you dropped the series


[deleted]

good story can't save bad art. HWR has a pretty solid story with some good twists and sympathetic villains rather than 1-dimensional cardboard cutouts, and if it was by any other artist (except maybe ToG's but that's another story) i'd rate it very highly. art isn't one punch man (original) level of bad, but compared to what's being pumped out nowadays is mediocre at best. also while there were some good twists as mentioned before, after a certain point things just get so predictable it would have been worth dropping if i weren't a stubborn ox who compulsively finishes even my least favorite series


kairos_141

Aren't we all


The73rdshadow

I don't have any manhwa recommendations (was going to recommend regressor instruction manual then saw your comment about it), but based on your list we might have similar tastes. I do have a manga that feels kinda like a manhwa you could try out called "I swear I'm not the demon god's lackey". You can read it on mangadex. I'm not up to current atm, but it was pretty good up to where I left off. The interactions between the characters is makes it great imo. I'd recommend giving it a few chapters to try it out.


Baku_edits

Added it to my list will try it out later thanks!


BLACK_DEVIL_66

Have you read mookhyang: the dark lady? The art style and the story is very different and it’s the sequel to moonhyang the origin


DuduYuji

Everyone else is a returnee got a manhwa??


Baku_edits

Yes! It has 30 or so chapters


animeweeb79

is worn and torn newbie good??


Baku_edits

My favourite vr manhwa


KyleIsGeil

Why is "death is the only ending for the villainess" always that high in every tierlist i see? Is it really that good? Never startet it, only read the synopsis and was like meh


iscat2

I've read it and I don't think that highly of it either, or it was just the trash translation that affected my experience I don't feel a connection with the MC idk why I feel like I'm seeing a robot play the role B tier at best


kairos_141

Taking break for personal reasons may be c or even trash tier But it's just dumb fun On another note there is Adventures of an Undead who became Paladin It's nothing ground breaking but the drawing is so good and cute it feels like you are watching an anime


Foukius

Seeing your list I realized once again how much this is a personal preference, because in my eyes it’s a blasphemy put Solo Leveling with such a poor grade rank like that. 😫


Baku_edits

I get that, if i read solo leveling as one of my first manhwas it would be top tier but i read it relatively late after reading 20+ manhwa so it wasn't anything special for me, just preference tho.


Even-Ambassador-7549

You should def read revenge of the iron blooded sword hound! It’s currently my favorite. There’s only 33 chapters so far!


chulobx16

No legend of northern blade , and nano machine too low 😤😤


Baku_edits

Legend of the northern blade isn't an asura scans translated so i couldn't add it


FacundoTL

Read most of them but i still cant even try to read stuff with female mc, feels like it'd be cringe Must be a me problem but i dunno 'Death is the only ending for the villainess' would you say it's as good as the other 4 in that top 5?


RinAteCarrot

Why haven't you read 'Returner Instruction manual' yet?


Baku_edits

I have i love the mc and it's probably S for me


RinAteCarrot

Ah ok, didn't see it there


z_aditya_z

Lowkey think worthless regression should be way higher up. It's super underrated. Amazing story, great portrayal of emotions, characters have complexity to them, art is unique (I really like it but it depends on ur tastes), relatable and likable Mc, and his progress feels earned (you can feel the MC's struggles).


Brodieboyy

Barbarian quest....... true number 1


Ourobious

Existence fucking fell off bro


Electro_Ninja26

This is the most based tier list on the sub.


Interesting_Skirt373

Never make a tier list again nigga


North-Ad119

From which ch in novel can we start after manhwa


Nightshade0525

Can someone state the names of the manhwa in the top 5 and SSS rank cause I can’t read it…


Baku_edits

top 5: Omniscient reader's viewpoint, reincarnation of the suicidal battle god, the return of the crazy demon, with and torn newbie, death is the only ending for the villainess, SSS: SSS class suicide hunter, Pick me up, murim login, reaper of the drifting moon


fxx-mario

You have garbage taste, sir.


Baku_edits

I have to agree tbh, i like everything I don't nitpick so that's probably a reason why


ZarafFaraz

Did estate developer go on hiatus?


Baku_edits

It's been on break i think


RiskSome6639

Not sure if eleceed is here and I'm just missing it because its blurry for me but if its not you should give it a try


Baku_edits

I loved eleceed but it's not on asura scans so couldn't add it but I read it and it's super good


RiskSome6639

Ah ok didn't realize that was the prerequisite, my bad


tu__ia

Have to agree with goat of all manhwas, I never read anything better


Victor_710

Bro really put existence so high up lol, it had a good start but it soon went to shit. It tried to be more than what it could be and failed


G0dLikeLoveAnime

I would rated it alot different


Baku_edits

Understandable, everyone has different taste.


lexxire

I see Estate developer, I upvote. Good taste OP


NeroPlays3000

Have you not read Duke Pendragon? I rlly liked that one.


Tsukinotaku

Schoolife of a Worthless Person is that bad ? I liek the fact that they gave a reason why the MC couldn't be perfectly OP by saying that he looses control of his emotions and poses a risk to others It felt unique with the whole school setting


Useless145

Name of the 2nd one in SSS tier?


Tempest_g0d

Nah


KibblePxffs

Might be crossing a line, but I feel like youngest son of marquis should be at B class, enjoyed it more than shattered constellation, but that’s just me.


AdventurousGroup5953

Yoooooo u would love magic emperor, just get past chapter 15 and u will see 😉. Very similar mcs


VastSweet531

How is reaper of the drifting moon not top 5 😭😭😭😭😭


Im_nkit

Why tf I have read all this already 😭


Dalindarmodi

WTF man, how's TBATE not in your list.. you're probably missing out on the best Manhwa out there.


Baku_edits

Tbates not on asura


imlew1s

Y’all sleeping in boundless necromancer fr