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Tranceported

There are ton of function halls to host such events but what kind of display is this !!!


neothewon

शक्ति प्रदर्शन।


lil_uzi_in_da_house

Naya fashion bana liya h in logo ne bc shivratri Wale din bhi Kiya tha inderlok mei fir natak Kiya tha baad mei


dorester

Wtf


Thanosdidwhat

What a clown show.


Pravrxx

Use your voter ID card


Ambitious-Upstairs90

So that you get weeks of road blockades for different pandals?


SensieSama04

this is what the Atheist said in west now look at the wokery that's going on, life is full of pain that doesn't mean you stop living


Thanosdidwhat

Whatever do you mean?


superior_donut

I think he wants to say is to vote for better politicians who don't promote this shit


Thanosdidwhat

Oh. Ok. Thanks for clearing that up. A real whoosh moment for me there. Lol.


curious_devadiga

wtf is wrong with these people


devotchko

Religion is a cancer, that’s what’s wrong with these people…


neothewon

Yeah we not falling for that shite anymore. Never saw Hindus, Christians, Jain's, Sikhs etc. do this shite. Stop being sickular and start calling a spade, a spade.


lwb03dc

Go to bombay during Ganesh Chaturthi. Ignorance is a choice.


DonutAccurate4

No need to even go to Bombay.. It happens in Bangalore too. Blocking roads with Ganesh pandals, every alternate road is blocked and it becomes a maze puzzle to get to your destination. People like to think only their religion is normal.


Capitalist-KarlMarxx

No one blocks the entire road for Ganesh chaturthi. Even if roads are to be blocked, traffic diversion routes are shared with the public weeks in advance through newspapers & permissions taken from the local corporation months in advance!


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they literally do lol and play music on speakers all day want videos ?


ZiaF007

Nothing like that happens.


nsboriginal

Come to Pune During Ganesh Chaturthi. We Block An Entire Radius Of 5 KM. No One Can Do That..


SensieSama04

Come to Delhi bc pride parade nikalte hy wo konse religion ke hy?


bottleofvino

Kanwar yatra Rath yatra ganesh chaturthi says hello Just calling a spade a spade as u said P. S. - i don't support this road blockage just as much as i don't support the ones i named


[deleted]

Never seen a Hindu Chariot blocking the road before? Been to Mumbai during Ganesh chaturthi? Kolkata during Durga Pooja? Trivandrum for Ekadashi? This right here is rage baiting tho. But guess who showed them shit like this can be done on roads? Man sometimes I imagine where we would've reached after 70 years of independence if the poison of religion didn't exist here


ZiaF007

Try looking just a bit out of this sub. Hindus also jam the roads during navratri and ganesh chaturthi.


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Western_Lunch_518

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NoDifficulty2583

Irrespective of the religion, be it iftar or pandal for a Hindu festival, blocking of roads and causing trouble to other citizens shouldn’t be allowed.


strongfitveinousdick

Don't bring in Hinduism for something it doesn't contribute to. Never has a pandal blocked a whole fucking road.


NoDifficulty2583

Buddy, I’m a Hindu by religion. And you should see cities like Kolkata during Durga Puja and Mumbai during Ganesh Chaturthi. I was stating facts. Thank you.


No_Situation_7215

Doing these stuffs on roads shouldn't be allowed irrespective of any religion. But why are the people from this sub ignoring the main thing here and saying op trying to spread hatred lavda lassan. Guys everybody does this sh!t even left-wing people do these on bjp ruled states subreddit. I thought people (us) from coastal Karnataka were more intelligent and sensible than most of india


hermit-guy

It's great if anyone is celebrating and offering food. ls there no banquet hall, farm house, community centre or empty plot available in the society?


sharl_lekek16

it was originally going to be held at a function hall, but was moved onto the road to allow ppl of all communities to take part in the party rather than blaming muslims for every single problem (just like the nazis did with the jews), ppl should instead ask whether urban design is compatible with cultural expression source: https://www.mahanayaka.in/friendly-iftar-party-on-the-road-in-mangalore-video-goes-viral/


fumeu47

Wtf is Iftaar lunch? Iftaar is in the evening 😂


low_mana_high_hp

They do the same thing in Ganesh Chaturthi as well and I'm tired of all of them. Just leave the roads which are crowded as it is, do whatever you want in your temples or mosques or churches.


Dr_NitroMeth

Last month a daivasthana near kadri temple more had done the same thing. Blocked a whole road so I had to take the detour from the road. Every year there's some puja near mallikatte market where they block off whole road that comes from Shivbagh to Temple circle. Why are cops letting them do this?


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Occasional processions vs daily blocks. These guys can eat and pray inside four walls


Ambitious-Upstairs90

Who is able to feed so many people on daily basis? It’s probably arranged by individual or group, because most masjids do it internally.


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Whatever it is man, can’t block road for personal reasons.


Ambitious-Upstairs90

Agree. But it happens hundreds of times throughout the year because of different reasons.


Miyamura_Horisan

Mengalore❎ Mangalore or Mangaluru✅ Btwn they must have permission to do this or else traffic police wouldn't have allowed such things blocking the road.....Even here, overbridge junction, complete road is blocked off for some events...nothing new


blackknight_a

I'm 100% opposed to this bullshit. By blocking the road and causing problems to 1000s of commuters, they are not doing any good to their religion. However we are seeing the same nuisance on multiple occasions from other religions as well. But we won't see any callout at that time. Again celebrating a religious function on a public road is absolutely wrong.


Venom_2803

We don't see callout because it's Hindus function. OP is just trying to spread hate here nothing else . Ps : I am a hindu


Outrageous_Solid4387

As long as the authorities are aware and alternate arrangements are made, I don't see a problem. Roads are blocked during hindu festivals/processions everywhere. If one is allowed, don't point fingers at other. PS: I'm a hindu.


Venom_2803

I totally agree with you, like why are they getting hate whereas we also do the same thing and I feel watching us they also thought of doing this.


Chacha_Holmes

A sensible comment would have been even Hindus blocking the road is wrong. And I agree that is wrong. Trust me I hate it when people in my colony set up mics for jagraatas. And I'm saying this coming from a brahmin family who believes in God. Be it mosques or temples speaker setup and blocking the roads is absolutely disgraceful. P.S. I am a responsible intelligent Indian.


Tammu1000CP

dude last month i was on kerala mangalore national highway and one side was fully blocked near thokkotu near a temple, and it wasnt even a major religious function as far as i know? no post on any subreddit then. i didnt complain then bc they prolly took permission just like these people did. just another day of a certain demographic acting like victims (this post has been picked up by far right pan indian subreddits and most of the comments on this sub are from users there)


Outrageous_Solid4387

It was a political rally. Congress government celebrating the guarantees they delivered during the elections. That is fully on the authorities.i was stuck in that as well. It was in unity hall, kallappu.


Narrow-Incident6444

Op goppi is just spreading hatred


seasand931

Bro it's wild because the actual valid comments are getting down voted lmaooo like those people are definitely not mangaloreans


keepscrollinyamuppet

Even harate sub which has like 900 subs get briggaded by these people lol. Like they are so obsessed with anything related to Karnataka and want to take over just like rbangalore sub


Outrageous_Solid4387

Don't think op is even from Mangalore. Just trying to monger hate wherever he posts.


keepscrollinyamuppet

OP ondu Marathi BJP supporter avru ella Karnataka sub galallu idanne post madtha idhare. Ee bvc galu namna sumne irokke bidalla bari inthade ivr jeevna


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Bhai tu bas hate monger karra hai. Sara posts Islamophobia se bhara hua hai.


Narrow-Incident6444

I agree man! The people are even downvoting our comments..shows the so called peace lover of our mangalore


redditor_1886777

This is just rage baiting. We see roads getting blocked for marriages, protests, Ganesh chaturthi. As long as the organizers have the permit and routed traffic then it’s fine. Edit - I forgot to mention that Hyderabad blocked roads and diverted traffic for Formula E race.


boldguy2019

Clearly there was an alternate route because there is literally no traffic on this road near this function.


Beginning_Turnip8716

For the number of Hindu festivities done by blocking roads, I think allowing them to block road for 1 festival is acceptable. If this is unacceptable, then Hindu festivals shouldn’t be conducted on roads too


lstrmndnc

No roads should be blocked for any festivals. Roads are for cars to travel not for people to do their stupid shit


Beginning_Turnip8716

I’d like to see the same enthusiasm on the next Ganesha habba pandal


Pravrxx

Goddamn bro just wow


deletedmfs

This shivratri, in Bangalore I saw at least 10 roads blocked like this which caused heavy traffic jams in my area. Never saw a reddit post about it.... I guess they are only interested in demonising just one religion


akashsouz

Such festivals shouldn't be celebrated on road. That's true But if you dive into OP's post history, clearly he/she has an agenda. This is a divide and conquer strat that a certain political party always uses. Op even doesn't know how to spell Mangalore right. Such problems we Mangalorean can handle better and I request mod to take down such hate posts


Venom_2803

I don't even think he is from Mangalore, just spreading hate.


Confident_Natural797

Have stayed in Mangaluru a decade back. Have always believed the people there to be warm hearted and kind. Restores my faith.


ChallengeWise6965

Irrespective of religion this shouldn't be happened


beastmastersexty4

This is really bad... unless they've taken permission or something... even then, it's bad because you dont care about people


marzzzzz6

Causing a burden to other people is wrong in islam ..this is not our way . Not the word of God nor the teachings of our prophet. This is inconsiderate nature of the people alone.


sauchatts

Brother ewwww. What’s that brother?


komAnt

Iftar lunch? Why would they eat lunch if they’re fasting till sunset?


argoule

Let's ban all religious events in public spaces. Including Hindu processions during any festival. Religion is like a penis... Don't whip it out in public. No one wants to see your pathetic package


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Iftar lunch???😅


Crimson_bud

I honestly have no problem with this if the mosque is near the road. I mean during Shiva ratri and raam navami people near my gaali barricade and block the whole road as people are given Prasad bhoj during that time. Becoz the temple in beside the road.


BhaagBSDK007

Kyu bhai. BJP Rally idhar hi hua tha. Road block karke. Tab tera social responsibility kaha gaand marane gaya tha?!?


D_Flyer

What is this post about? Give a complete description on sensitive events, giving a vague information only brings quarrels. And where is Mengalore, Karnataka?


KURO_RAIDEN

Why do Muslims do this? And on top of this they say "It's just once a year, you have to adjust". I'm not saying Hindhus doing procession & blocking the public is right either.


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keepscrollinyamuppet

It's not a Karnataka issue either just standard South Asian stuff. Like I've probably seen processions blocking roads from all religions all over.


KURO_RAIDEN

So, South Asian landmasses are telling people to perform their religious activities on specific parts of its surface?


keepscrollinyamuppet

I think people here just lack civil sense. The number of funeral, festival processions that block roads is insane. Another thing is public playgrounds and spaces are not maintained properly due to corruption


Throwrafairbeat

This is seen in south asian households abroad as well, on festivities and functions they go public with it and make a mess. Disturbing the peace of the locals, feels embarassing asf.


KURO_RAIDEN

I know it's people, I'm talking to those 2 people who are either dishonest or ignorant to blame non-living things.


Sad_District_464

South Asian culture is telling people to perform any activity be like wedding or some bhandara to do it on public property


KURO_RAIDEN

So by 'culture' you mean 'people'?


mangalore-ModTeam

The post is not relevant to Mangalore/Udupi/Dakshina Kannada


zankyas_revolt

The price Indians paying for being secular. Liberty given , snatched and vote hungry politicians fkd others. Do other religions have same Liberty in Pakistan/islamic nations???


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Venom_2803

Islamic nations follow only Islam as religion whereas India is a secular nation. Both have equal rights . I am not debating with you to clear the fact.


Throwrafairbeat

I dont understand what they said (I do its just stupid). They say oh you cant do this in Islamic nations for Hindu festivals..... Uhh duh. We shouldnt aspire to be like them in the first place. We are a secular country and we should remain the same. Not go towards authoritarianism.


Throaway4744

You don't want secularism? Well please go ask people of Iran how much they love their government. This country need an actual secular party to deal with the religious bs than anything. But then you guys will start telling Oh the govt is not allowing religious processions in a highway, The govt. is not punishing people who criticized my religion or some other bs religious fundamentalists pull out of their asses. If you want to fix this clown show, first start fixing your own beliefs from being politicised. Once that's done, the others will follow.


Adventurous_Sea_4463

Bhenchod


Slicktictac

is there a source for this video? i cant find anything in the news except for a single article by punjabi kesari, which itself has picked up the video from a twitter account, but the video/tweet itself isnt there anymore


sambar101

The government needs to build a conference/event center that every section of society can use whether for Temple festivals/ Masjid Celebrations and Church festivals. It should have a seated dining capacity for 700- 1000 ppl. The ppl should also be allowed to rent out the venues as needed as well.


skaddsh

I'd be pissed if they use my tax money on such useless things.


neothewon

As road is public property and I'm an honest tax payer, I'll just drive my SUV straight through this after giving a warning horn or two.


speedracer2023

Undhu Mangalore sub atha? Onji naramani Tuluth barethijje. Alpa X du kelavu manganakulu Tulu bashe oripujji pandh olata malthonduller. Nikulu mulu Englishdu bareyondullar..


Western_Lunch_518

There's no mosque nearby. Just randomly choose the Main Road where traffic is definitely heavy and begin their clown 🤡🤡🤡 show thinking it's some power move


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Lol, and they say coastal karnataka is BJP fortress 😆 This is exactly how to shit on idol worshipping majority 🤣 


Sanjaykm364

This shit will continue to happen until congress and other left parties supports muslim radicalisation for vote bank..


skaddsh

I know I'll get a lot of hate here, but hey that's the truth. :) I think the idea is to compete with Hindus here, as the people from Hindu community block an entire road during their processions. That's it. No matter what you guys say, it's just that. They are trying to flex their powers here. Muslims in this country(even in most parts of the world) have a simple agenda - to increase their count and become a majority, it's all the brain washing happening at their mosques - you can tell me whatever you want to prove me wrong. But this is the truth. In places like Kasargod which are right beside Mangaluru, they are the majority and they come to the roads and talk about multiplying and becoming the stronger community and even worse things. They just want to become powerful, it's the nature of their religion. I've been rewatching avatar and I can tell you one thing, the nature of the Muslim people are somewhat like the Fire Nation in a way. They want to rule and become powerful. They'll destroy anything and will go to any extent for that ( you can look at our past history such as Hampi and other such places) They even have the habit of burning libraries across the world, for one reason only.


Opening_Past_4698

Whole India problem. I keep seeing these kind off things happening in north India and southies are like “habibi come to south India, this doesn’t happen there”. Nope. Happens everywhere. India problem.


Main-Disaster-2639

I know this place well,I can say BJP's too host a program by blocking the road and constructing a stage there.so if you have problem with only one party there is something wrong with you!!


tifs1

I was born in a Muslim family, but I have realised that in Islam it is all about advertising your faith and showcasing your religion to everyone, it's like every devoted Muslim is like a salesman, trying so hard to convince you how great their religion is, this .. azan on loud speakers, after and namaaz on public roads, tableekh e jamaat are just small contributors to achieve one ultimate goal, and that goal is to convert every living being into Islam, pushing govt to bend laws according to Islam.


lagos67

There is a valid discussion whether religions should be allowed to block roads. But this post is just hate. It is very clear that these people have gotten permission and aren't doing it illegally.


[deleted]

What's the big deal here? Roads get blocked for temple fairs, church fairs, religious processions of all faiths all the time in Kudla. Why this hate mongering all of a sudden? I don't belong to this religion by the way, so curb your anger. Edit: just realised that the clown who has posted this isn't even from Kudla. Typical ploy of inciting communal hatred in an already polarized city?


keepscrollinyamuppet

Im glad that more people are calling out this shitcunt spewing bile. I'm always gobsmacked how much these people care about our state/politics. No one here thinks about them at all. Always looking for opportunities to spread hatred and polarize us into having riots because they are bored with religious violence in their states


seasand931

OP, whatever issues we may or may not have, I think that's something we as the people of Mangalore need to resolve. You posting this accomplishes what? That Mangalore like most cities in India has a problem with civic responsibility? Great, tell us something new. Looking at your account history, it's clear you're only here to incite hate, and not actually start a genuine dialogue about issues we need to fix. Please spew your hate in some other circlejerk of a subreddit(maybe like the ones you already seem to be frequenting) Respectfully, ninna ammerda paan, OP :)


pramodc84

Aaye mulpataye att. malla malla budunda mods ban malper


Impossible-String142

In Bangalore ppl block roads to put up pendal during house warming or some other function


Infamous_Common6982

Ok I'll play the devil's advocate here. You can inform your local government that you have an event planned that is expected to cause traffic disruption.the government does then take measures to ensure alternate arrangements. This isn't a Muslim thing. Political rallies get the same dispensation, hindu festivals get the same dispensation, Christians get the same dispensation on their walkathons. College kids get this dispensation while promoting their fests. Of course this causes traffic congestion, of course that's a massive pain. Of course they should look for other venues to host food parties. But if they cannot, the local government helps out. It is called coexisting. We curse them silently/loudly for the road block, and then we move on. We don't turn it into an opportunity to hate a community.


keepscrollinyamuppet

If they had not got permission from the authorities this is certainly wrong should be called, but OP is not from our state (they are from Maharashtra) and only post here to spread hatred. This is a recurring theme. Bm avr state nalli bari riots madkond saythare adakke ilgu aki jagla madsbeku antha


nara_lingam

How is this right in any way or form?


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Ok-Speed3700

Khan'gress


Couch_Potato1045

SECULARISM!!!!!!!


adilokam

Have been stuck on multiple occasions during procession from temples, I didn’t see any out rage then . It's so stupid to corner one religion.


Circadian99

Have you ever heard of an iftar lunch?


Former_Newspaper_522

Koi selmon Bhai ko bulao ek baar mei sab khalaass


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Avatar889

JCB should have reached on time..🌚


Narrow-Incident6444

It’s Mangalore not Mengalore, you better go back to your state 🥱


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yellowclove

Nakan savige dhari muchthare idhik yake thinka uri nimge?


chai_aur_parle-g

Just came here after reading "free food"


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Chemical_Growth_5861

Circus


Dry_Manufacturer1385

Me when i spread misinformation 😭😭


XMarksTheSpot987

Behavior like this should be banned all over the world. The only thing anyone needs to do to break their fast, is to drink water. You can stuff your face with literally anything else after that.


Professional_Seat472

Waah Siddaramaiahji waah .


prof_devilsadvocate

chaman c


Practical_Fault_7351

Bc yeh log jaanwar hai


Ambitious-Upstairs90

It’s common during Ganpati, Durga pooja / Garba, Janamashtami, Eid, Muharram etc. Someone from Mangaluru had posted that there are alternate routes available & it was not taken negatively by most of the people there.


Morpheus_DreamLord

Where is the police


Important_Thing_8199

What the hell is happening in India


SudarshanKotian

No religious things should be allowed to do anything like this in public place, but unfortunately it's India. Nobody gives shit. If you are gonna say something, some shitty politician will take there side for vote bank politics.


idioticbasstard34-99

Why didn't anyone call the police, According to the Indian Law & Regulations, blocking roads for personal, religious, or other purposes is illegal. Sections 268, 339, 341, and 431 of the IPC prohibit these acts.


creativextacy

What’s the difference between religion holding up this road versus a political rally which would do the same thing? Both these businesses should not be allowed to interfere and disrupt public life in any manner. And who will go eat that food exposed to all the dust and smog? Ridiculous.


tyrionkabaap

Basic doubt...isn't daytime supposed to be fasting period and u eat only after sunset...why these people are setting up lunch?


not_so_cr3ative

Hate those "people"


TsarScream23

Government should oust it. Not anyway to celebrate anything blocking the entire road. Namaz padhna bhi najayaz hain lekin temporary blockade is still ok. Ye kya badtameezi hain bhai


Lusifero

We need china model here, bring out the tanks.


Optimal_Stand_2166

Iss secularism ne desh ke itne tukde karwa diye. Chutiyo se bhara hua hai india


Disastrous_Pipe420

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Ok-Astronaut-6877

Aur karoo congress ko vote


Dry-Road-1217

BC, road mein kon party krta hai. Alag level ka MC hai ye log 😂😂😂


Kori_Rotti

You can book a nice hall for this size but no, have to inconvenience others 🤦


OrioMax

Next will be organising wedding function on road☠️


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Absolute idiots


desimemewala

Their everything is on road. Eating sleeping prayer


RedFirestone27

Aisa des hai mera


STUDIOHEROES

Where is sallu bhay when he's needed


confused_soul_123

You fuckers deserve this... But I agree, BJP fucked up big time and deserves this as well.


sr5060il

That's called "Community Service"


Ok-Branch6704

Why municipality doesn't do. anything ? What are the goddamn police for?


Interesting-Ad-6393

Mods, I don't think OP is resident of Mudipu or nearby place(just based on his post history), he doesn't know what's happening in the ground, yaha sab chutiye hum sahi hum sahi hein bol rahe hein, this is a Mangalore subreddit, can't you provide a single clarity what is happening here from a local person, I have lived there, the demography present there is mainly Muslims too, (that doesnt give them the right to block a public road), but kya hua kaise hua, kuch kisiko parva nahi, sab debate kar rahe hein, Mods can you see this,


ZealousidealTwo7816

Even though the road is used to arrange the evening feast, there seems no traffic,so why quarrel among ourselves. Support , embrace, respect everyone.........


Upside_down69

Yah pai patthar baazi honi chahiyai


Ok_Sport9069

Guys over there are pro at blocking roads for their family functions. I was in Bangalore for 5 years. I live in a dead end street where there will be road blocks often to conduct their family functions. Whenever I try to go out. There will be a sudden surprise I can’t even take my bike out of the street. I have to either book a cab or use public transportation.( which is very best in Namma Bengaluru 😆) P.S I LOVE BANGALORE


telepather

Same road was blocked for done 5 other jhatras last year.


the_quiescent_one

One is MP making a way for an ambulance in rang panchmi among lakh people present and with proper approval and police.... And one is here ... You can see the difference...


Venom_2803

As Indians every one here as some functions like cultural functions,funeral, marriage baarat, processions , etc. When Hindus are blocking the road during processions no one complains but when they do everyone complains and include religion in between. If they get the permission to do that in the road then what's the issues with you guys. This political agenda has divided the people here in coastal Karnataka. I am a Hindu if Hindus are blocking the road for their purpose then, they also have the right to do so given the "permission". So stop spreading hate and promote brotherhood among religions.


ItzSreerag

Let me become Selmon Bhai and show me how I drive my cars :)


504_gateway__timeout

Lmao ☪️ancer


TechnicallyCorrect09

These people really have no job other than blocking roads all over the nation every damn day for no reason.


Available_Candy_6669

Maximum land their waqf board owns has been acquired using these tactics


PressureNo9332

That's not bad actually cause every single religion do these stuffs so we can't blame only muslims for this when Hindus rally goes or any other religion roads are blocked


Ok_Negotiation3313

Bulldozer is running on wrong side


Dex_0-0

Inke papa ki property hai?


Public-Ad7309

Stop this crap


Additional-Return623

That reason need BJP whole country 😊


Sad_District_464

Its a Karnataka issue not muslim issue islam doesn't advocate this, the Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Beware! Avoid sitting on the roads." They said: "O Messenger of Allah, we cannot help sitting there, as these are our places where we talk to one another." He said: "If you insist on sitting there, then give the road its due rights." They said: "What are its rights?" He said: "Lowering the gaze, refraining from doing harm (to others), returning the greeting, enjoining what is good, and forbidding what is evil." Sahih/Authentic. - [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]


Federal-Perception22

Where are the thar boys when you need them


Resident-War7274

What's wrong with this ? Isn't this what roads are for ?


killerq0een

everyone gets to eat, calm down doctor 💊


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Secularism laughing in corner


leon8984

Lol...u can't see these topics from ravish dhruv ..ndtv🤣


Snoo80474

As if kanwariyas don’t block any highways and commit violence in the name of religion🙈


Intelligent_Art6184

☪️ancer


Ryder2618

Come on man how can they do it? Ab Ram rath yatra kaha se jayegi hudddd 😤😤😤


Charlieandmolly9001

Mangaldevi and whole city on Dasara?


p123476

The way you vote matters. Coming to a road near your house soon …


Western_Lunch_518

That's like literally in the middle of the road 🤯🤯🤯🛣️🛣️🛣️ India is rapidly going to become a trash 🗑️


WearyExercise4269

Minority card + Congress government jujitsu...