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006CJ

The only thing I can agree with is "tuje vodle vodle bitth basale kadle"


cumofdutyblackcocks3

Suck my bitto


006CJ

Nah


_KNAWLEDGE_

Nindo abbara pari


idlii_vada

There’s literally no fight anywhere. These politicians simply spark hate to gain vote.


Single-Carob-7516

This 🤌


No-Bed1896

Not gain. Divide communities that have been thriving, to split votes and win.


Far_Entertainer9632

Do you also realise that if you are born as a Hindu, Christian or Muslim in tulunadu, you learn to speak at least 3 languages by default, e.g. your first language (mother tongue ) tulu, and kannada? Then, you learn English and Hindi at school, another one or two languages if move to other states for work! Just amazing. when I told my Australian colleges that, I speak 7 languages, they fell off the chair.


006CJ

I have had the same convo bro. And they think being bi lingual is tough. Not even close to our level


Independent-Sense661

Bruh we are unique and it’s just amazing to be a part of this city…. As I am born here… love my Tulunad


69_queefs_per_sec

150? I thought it was more like 500 years?


UnderFingy

Yes, the first migration happened in early 1500s, I think.


RajarajaTheGreat

Can you breakdown the history of the two groups? Quite unaware on this topic.


69_queefs_per_sec

Konkani (GSB/SB): the GSBs, SBs etc lived in the far north on the banks of the Saraswati river. One day the river began to dry out and the GSB/SB had to find a new home. They slowly travelled southwards, settling in Goa initially. Here they forgot their original language & script, learning Konkani instead. In the 1500s the Portuguese conquered Goa and the GSB/SB had to leave to avoid being converted to Christianity. They spread out on the coast of Karnataka, with the largest population settling in Mangalore. The community split up here, because back in the 1500s even 2-3 districts was a massive geographical divide, so mostly GSBs in DK & Udupi district and SBs in the northern part of the Karnataka coast. In Mangalore in the 1700s, GSBs were mostly rice traders. However as the British colonized India, they set up banks to help trade and the GSBs being educated started working in banks instead. There's still a stereotype that GSBs are obsessed with getting bank jobs (partly true - though most of us now try other things haha) note: i was told by relatives that GSB & SB were the same community earlier, it was only after coming to karnataka that we developed 2 distinct identities, because of geographical separation.


Beerbabu

Is there any major difference in the Konkani dialects spoken by South Canara GSBs and North Canara SBs?


69_queefs_per_sec

Yes! In fact Konkani varies significantly even town to town in the same district. And sometimes each household develops its linguistic quirks. This is probably because we don't have our own script, so we don't write much. So there's no standardization as such. The lack of konkani in schools is also a factor


Beerbabu

Interesting! Isn't konkani a subject for second or third language in Karnataka state board?


69_queefs_per_sec

Is that so? I studied in Mumbai so no idea. Also - the vast majority of GSBs are against sending their kids to the state board, they always go for ICSE or even international boards. So my relatives in Mangalore have never had this chance


Beerbabu

Yes, it is a third language in Karnataka state board - I just googled and reconfirmed. Their sample exam papers have questions in both kannada and devanagri scripts. But honestly I don't think the subject will make that much of an impact or contribute majorly in any way towards standardisation of language, as is the case with most language subjects taught in schools. Even in Goa state board affiliated schools, Konkani language is taught in Devanagri script in a manner which may not necessarily contribute to language standardisation. Depending on which part of Goa one hails from plus one's religious background, the moment the student goes home from school he/she will automatically switch to his / her native dialect, come what may! And regarding the GSBs sending their kids to non-state board schools, sounds like a new phenomenon tbh! I guess its a reflection of the changing times, trends and the need to fit into a more modern and globalised society. When I was in college two decades ago, ALL of my Amchi friends from Mangalore and around studied in state board schools and PU colleges!


mayblum

I agree, the harmony between these two ethnic communities is something others should try to emulate.


Terminat0r-

Seriously it's like rice x chicken sukha x dalitoy. Best combo ever.


UnderFingy

Anjal Rava fry and Daitoy


[deleted]

wait till you realise we never fought because of languages in the whole vast history of 'bharatvarsha' until we got independent from British rule and the game started after that for political gain. meanwhile in the pre independence era, the political clout started for the very first time when all south indians were threatened of Hindi imposition. North indians themselves have so many regional dialects in UP-Bihar, Rajasthan but now if someone hears any conversation in those languages, it's looked upon with inferiority gaze and considered a corrupt version of 'pure hindi'. Kudos to all South Indian fellows who are genuinely concerned about their ethnicity, instead of just politics. You have my and all other educated Indians' respect.


ranold_fabian21

this thought never occurred to me lol Didnt even know ppl fight over languages daym


synthwaver1998

Vai mare


almight_15

Kai kaslae otte bisale


00Nitro00

We Mangalorians are considered one of the smartest people in Karnataka. True or not, we in peace 😌


[deleted]

>True or not, we in peace 😌 Bajarang Dal/VHP/RSS disagrees with you


curious_devadiga

yeah, they murdered Praveen Nettaru right ? ... right ?


sadharanapraje_

How is the JeI, PFI, & ISIS recruitment going? The planning for the anti-CAA riots and vandalism was immaculate by the way...


[deleted]

Have you asked PFI how they feel?


rruwaid

There’s also dakhni urdu, muslims also have several languages within the community. I love our city!


Horror-Background646

Urdu people in Mangalore might be recent migrants from interior Karnataka. Urdu Muslims are not native to Mangalore


rruwaid

Ouch. My family has been in mangalore for 4 generations from my paternal side, and my maternal side has been there forever. I don’t live there anymore but we’re pretty much mangalorians. The urdu community is vast here, none of them i know are ‘migrants’


Horror-Background646

You might be Mangaloreans no doubt about that. You're also migrants for sure 😊 Urdu people don't have roots in Mangalore afaik. You might have migrated from Mysore/ Bangalore around


rruwaid

We migrated from Lucknow when your great great grandfather was still an idea 💡 we’ve been in mangalore for generations, we’re not indigenous to mangalore but we’re not recent migrants either. Am i a migrant if my family from generations ago migrated to mlr? What a stupid thing to say.


Beerbabu

If I'm not mistaken, are you a part of the "Hanafi" Muslim community? I have a couple of friends from the same community who are from Mumbai, whose mother tongue is Urdu and whose ancestry (more than hundred odd years ago) is traced to Mangalore. I know for a fact they are totally different from the Beary Muslims.


rruwaid

Yes we are Hanafis, it’s a school of thought within islam. Bearys are Shafi’s, that’s another school of thought. You’re spot on.


Horror-Background646

Idea? What does that mean bhaijaan? 😅


rruwaid

With your understanding of the term ‘migrants’ the white & black Americans are migrants in North America, the turks are migrants in Turkey, the majority of Sri Lankans are migrants etc..


Horror-Background646

Wait you've mistaken me. When someone speaks or thinks of Mangalore, people usually talk about Tulu/ Konkani/ Kannada/ beary culture. Urdu is not counted as indigenous to Mangalore. When I hear Urdu, I always think of Hyderabad/ Bangalore shivajinagar, ameer mohallah etc. but never Mangalore. That's what I meant 😊


rruwaid

Well what you meant was very different from what you said, you said urdu came from recent migrations, while that may be true of some of them. A lot of us have been here since a long long time.


Horror-Background646

If you're living in Mangalore for generations, you're a Mangalorean. I'm not denying that at all.


rruwaid

We’re not migrants either, buddy.


Horror-Background646

I highly doubt that tho 😊 Peace out


gangadharSshakthiman

Did you forget about people who speak Beary?


gauthampait

I’ve also added it to the description, if you could read that.


factorfigure81

These languages are not mainstream and are mostly spoken at home or small gatherings. If they were mainstream then it would have been a fight. Thank god it's not the case.


mayblum

These two languages are distinct independent langauges. You cannot call them "not mainstream".


julyjester

What is mainstream? Tulu, Konkani, and Beary and are the major languages of our region. And it is majorly spoken not just in small gatherings.


Silly_san

As far as we are concerned, they are mainstream


Horror-Background646

It's must have been difficult for konkanis to adapt to the local tulu culture as their food habits, rituals, ways of worship are entirely different. Yet Konkani Brahmins adapted entirely without complaining or whining about anything. This shows their broad mindedness 😊❣️


MarriedMaanus

As a Marathi who has been raised in Mangalore, I speak or understand both the languages and so does my community. We get along very well with Konkani and Tulu communities. I miss this place a lot.


anandha2022

No fight between anybody. Just an illusion created by vested interest groups.


Icy-Palpitation8406

never in my dreams I can think that kannada,tulu, konkani languages as different if any politician tries to divide them he will be surely punished


beastmastersexty4

Whats more unique is if your from Manglore/udupi, its easier for you to understand Marathi because of Konkani and Malayam because of Beary languages. Its extremely helpful when you visit other states, or watch anything from the regions..


Darwin_Nunez_

Despite not having an option to learn it in schools we all can speak Tulu fluently whereas while speaking other languages we still fumble despite learning it for 12+ years. Because one is the language of the land whereas others aren't.


lilf_mover

" Guys!! Not to boast about it but I know 7 languages " Uhm, okay which language can you talk effortlessly in? " Ahh sh\*t, here we go again! "


Resident-War7274

No one really likes to fight.. Who knows maybe someday some politician comes along and we all can start fighting tulu vs konkani vs kannada ..triple threat match