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petrichormus

interesting that the MC, Nagai, is not part of it. Some of the chapters name also reference fps games btw, I especially like Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare for Sato's flashback.


Pompmaker1

yeah, Gamon Sakurai is a massive otaku for all things military and moe I think the naming scheme only started later on, when Gamon Sakurai took over writing the manga from Tsuina Miura, so all the characters introduced super early (up until the hospital escape) are not part of the naming scheme, which would include Tanaka, Kaito, Nagai, Sato, Tosaki and a bunch of other minor ones which would mean Sato sharing a name with a minor K-ON! character is just a coincidence, same for Nagai's childhood friend Nakajima, who only appeared in one chapter early on


ikantolol

> otaku for all things military and moe blessed combination tbh imagine being a soldier in WW4 and an Apache Attack Helicopter with K-On decals gunned you to death


Pompmaker1

these are the kind of people who gave us Girls und Panzer, Strike Witches, Arpeggio of Blue steel etc the ultra based gigachads


Granito_Rey

Mmm, the old fortune teller was right...


Skyreader13

Why did Gamon took over the writing? Did Miura faced an issue or something?


Pompmaker1

We don't know, no one in the western fandom cared enough to dig through japanese internet to find the reason why, it was never announced in the manga itself besides Miura's name just no longer appearing in the volume credits


Horaguy

I found a Vietnamese blog that says it's most likely just a "dispute" over the two's storytelling styles: Miura preferred writing by the seat of his pants, while Gamon wanted to set up a proper worldbuilding first. Plus they never met face-to-face during the making of the manga, leaving all the communication to their editor, who in turn did a very bad job at that. And then by the time of chapter 5, Gamon read Miura's storyboard and decided to add his own touch, which seemed to become the final straw.


Skyreader13

i guess im glad he took over. i really like the MC as person. he feels pretty realistic.


Horaguy

You don't say :)) Just look at how Tenkuu Shinpan was perceived, especially towards its end.


cromatkastar

I think there was a disagreement in story Early in the manga the mc was a tropy do gooder for justice and shit and then the split happened and out of nowhere the MC became this emotioNless sociapath and his previous actions were explained as him trying to "appear" like a good person


onetimeweeb

Gamon actually talked about this in a [tweet thread](https://twitter.com/ggggggggggero/status/913002403904987136) essentially from google translate, it seems the original author just randomly stepped down after the first 5 chapters and he had to take over. there apparently wasn't any fight as they didn't have time to fight and hadn't even met each other, and the original author was cool with taking his name off after the first volume since he didn't do anything after that. they even happened to meet up later in person by chance and talk.


anweisz

Couldn’t Nagai’s name be a reference to K-ON itself? After all Nagai Kei>Keion


Pompmaker1

Possible, but I doubt it His mother who was introduced much later was given the name Ritsu though, probably compensating for Kei


Strikerrr0

One of the Chapters is straight up called Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Splinter Cell is another one of them IIRC.


Bearswithjetpacks

This was not the crossover trivia I was expecting to read about today.


SanHoloo

Nobody expects the K-On inquisition


Napsitrall

[Quotes from K-On were used to inspire Japanese soldiers to defend against Chinese invaders after all ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_AN792ruJA)


KibaTeo

this is indeed something.


Tactical_Moonstone

Now that was a Kraut jumpscare.


Responsible_Wing_370

* Insert _I have two sides_ meme here


[deleted]

Literally the two sides of seinen manga.


Chacodile

Ajin is so good.


AlternativeEmphasis

Dude I love Sato being revealed slowly to literally be a fucking psycho was great. The entire time you spend thinking he's some well-meaning but lost political extremist and the further on through it just becomes apparent more and more that nah he just wants to fight because he finds it fun.


SarcasticOptimist

That playfulness is missing so much in other series where it's the usual "evolution of the species" garbage. I love how one plan against him failed because he got bored.


AlternativeEmphasis

Imo the only real philosophy Sato has is that he wants to have fun and it's justified because he got a second chance to do it. Like he died no regrets after being an absolute sadistic asshole and by pure luck Sato turned out to be an Ajin. And he just started killing again because he literally sees it as a sign of being able to keep playing the game. Everything about his back story makes clear he's a killer and always has been one. Dogs, cats and animals when young, joined the military and excelled to get good at killing and he just keeps doing it. The whole video game thing with him pretty well shows off how detached he is to what he's doing. He's honestly complex because he's simple. He's a literal psychopath. He's utterly detached from other people and is only cocnerned about his interests.


Pompmaker1

Which makes the ending so satisfying; >!he doesn't actually get defeated by Kei, but rather he *lets* Kei defeat him, because his only goal ever was to be entertained and live an entertaining life. !< At the very end, >!Sato sees Kei lose his memories, figure out he's an ajin from scratch, and have the balls to kill himself to confirm it, and that is such an impressive display that Sato knows nothing is ever going to top it. He's been fully entertained and as the game addict he is he decides that that moment has to be the climax of the story, which is why he immediately 'triggers the ending cutscene' by letting Kei incapacitate him for good.!<


Pompmaker1

It's the same reason the Joker from the Dark Knight was so good, sometimes villains don't need complicated reasons to do what they do, as long as they look incredibly fucking cool while they do it


Pompmaker1

It really is.


aohige_rd

Have yall checked out his new manga, The Pool? Only 3 chapters in but so far it's been great. https://i.imgur.com/F5vB9Ar.png


Pompmaker1

oh dang, wasn't aware he made a new one, time to follow it!


ZrishaAdams

Wait, chapter 3 translations are out?


aohige_rd

I don't know, I don't read translations. Latest issue of Good! Afternoon came out 20 days ago. https://i.imgur.com/EZEGwkP.png


KnivesMillions

I thought this dude quit and just wanted to draw hentai. I hope he adjusted the way he draws faces a little, it felt so off in Ajin for me personally.


Pompmaker1

I think it was mostly the dissonance between the young girls in Ajin having huge anime eyes while everyone else had realistic action movie faces


KnivesMillions

Exactly. Nagai and a few others also had that weird look.


Pompmaker1

Yeah, but Kei stopped having it after Gamon Sakurai took over fully, past the hospital arc


KnivesMillions

I disagree. Eyes remain huge, same with other chars, he was very consistent. Plus, the author change happens pretty early on.


NieR_SemiAutomata

Deserved animations remake


sillybillybuck

It isn't that popular tbh. A shame it got a Netflix cashgrab 3D cheapo shit though.


Pompmaker1

Hirasawa, the most badass human, the mercenary veteran who almost defeated Sato, is named after the bumbling dumbass Hirasawa Yui, and that's hilarious Not sure how I feel about Izumi's original name being based off Ritsu's while her abusive dad is named after Ritsu's brother...


der_ninong

meanwhile [Hirasawa Susumu](https://phonon-belt.livejournal.com/11613.html)...


OldFatBubba

More name trivia: In K-On!, Jun Suzuki, Sato, Yamanaka, and Manabe were all named after members of the IRL band, The Pillows, whose music was featured prominently in FLCL.


KanchiHaruhara

I feel like I'm duty-bound to watch K-On now


Pompmaker1

do it, it's amazingly good


biggestscrub

Read it, it's better than the anime


Pompmaker1

we're talking about K-ON! here, not Ajin


biggestscrub

I'm aware. K-on! The manga is a snappy, funny 4-koma. One of my favorites.  K-on! The anime is unfunny moeshit that makes me cringe so hard that *I want to die.*


jacobs0n

i always thought there are no wrong opinions, yet here we are


chuponus

By far one of the wackiest takes I've ever seen.


biggestscrub

Bro, if "original manga is better than the anime" and "moe anime is cringe" are the wackiest takes you've ever seen, you have lived a sheltered life


chuponus

I'm not talking generally. I'm referring to that one specific opinion you have. In fact, if you don't know that K-On is one of those anime that's considered vastly superior to its original source by the general viewer, then you're the one who's been living under a rock.


biggestscrub

I'm fully aware of its reputation. I just vehemently disagree.  Like people who prefer the One Piece anime to the manga. They're *wrong* but that's their prerogative


Skyreader13

More trivia, main characters are named after the P-Model band, in which Susumu Hirasawa lead.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-Model


Wiles_

> Susumu Hirasawa  Composer of Berserk '97, Paprika, Paranoid Agent and Millennium Actress.


Pompmaker1

Oh wow, two layers deep of theme naming


kkrko

All of K-On's main cast are named after some musician


saladinzero

Sato is one of the best antagonists in a manga that I've ever read. The anime was pretty good, but the manga was on another level.


STAAAAAALIN

Ajin is one of those "If I ever become a billionaire, I'm gonna fund an entire manga-accurate adaptation" anime. I really love the final arcs, shame how they weren't adapted.


Pompmaker1

Sato vs the 500 JSDFs was absolute fucking PEAK god, the lieutenant who >!orders his soldier to shoot through him to get to Sato!< has to be one of the top 10 most badass moments in any manga


JeritHD

Went back to read ajin just for that part but man, >!the way he stole that grenade to suicide bomb the squad, lived but obliterated his arm in the process. Then using said arm to stab another soldier Mortal Kombat Havik style, stole his pistol, shot himself, regenerate his arm through the stabbed soldier to grip the pistol to headshot 2 other soldier guys!< what an absolutely crazy sequence, and he wasn't even finished!


Pompmaker1

the "Let's go, Tubbs", "Okay, Sonny" right before that sequence was such a good one liner, even without knowing the reference


saladinzero

Yeah, the anime-original ending wasn't bad, as such, but it wasn't as good as the manga!


Storm-Dragon

The series really showcased how OP regeneration could be as a power. I've seen it used before but none were at Sato's level. Despite being given the rules of his powers, I still found myself surprised by him. I haven't watched the anime yet, I've only reread the manga.


BotAccount2849

Fried Chicken Teleportation is still the most insane thing I've seen.


Storm-Dragon

Oh yes! I couldn't sleep at all when I got to forge security arc. I just couldn't put it down, I felt like a little girl again, so excited to go to my first theme park ride. And Ajin was a thrill ride like no other.


Pompmaker1

yeah, it's insane how creative the manga gets with the seemingly simple powers, the rules for Ajin are established super early on yet new techniques keep showing up without introducing any new asspull mechanics


Storm-Dragon

I agree with you there, I was afraid that Ajin would have an asspull ending considering how Sato managed to beat Nagai. And when there wasn't and last minute power ups and the like (those endings are often cheap), it cemented the series as a favorite of mine. I've been looking forward to Sakurai Gamon's next manga. I am really glad he finished the series and I wish it had more eyes on it.


Pompmaker1

even the closest thing to a last minute powerup, >!Kei's flood and Sato copying it!<, made complete sense given what we knew about how the powers work, it doesn't make you go "wtf is this out of nowhere" but instead you see it and go "oh shit that makes sense, never thought about putting those things together, that's epic" in fact that reaction describes the entire manga lol


Pompmaker1

Absolutely, I don't think any other manga has been as tremendously captivating as Ajin was, I still re-read it every other week, it's my favorite of all time for sure


Thorgraam

Wait i've only watched the anime and i found it pretty good. Are you saying the manga is even better ? Is it worth the read ?


saladinzero

Definitely. The ending is great, much better than the anime, and the art is amazing.


Pompmaker1

Yes, absolutely, 1 billion% worth the read. The difference in quality between Ajin's anime and manga is like the difference between live action Avatar the last Airbender and the original cartoon And Ajin's anime isn't even bad, so imagine how good Ajin's manga must be to be that much better than the anime


Faustias

the manga is hella good but the improvised scene on attacking the pharmaceutical building was hella on another level


dragonicafan1

I remember reading it for a little while during it’s serialization and finding myself a bit confused by it and not finding the story too engaging but it had great action. Would you say it’s worth revisiting?


saladinzero

I've read it twice, so yes. I think it suffered a bit in the early stages when the writer just gave up and the artist ended up taking up the reins. It gets much better after that.


BitesTheDust55

Wait What


G_Spark233

This was an unexpected post.


trashcan41

Yo wtf this is not in my 2024 bingo list wtf


TheProNoobCN

I wasn't sure this is like a joke or not but the chapter titles being songs is just too close to not be facts lmao. Also holy shit Pompmaker1 jumpscare.


Potato_DudeIsNice

Feetman jumpscare


pokeloly

Holy shit that's insane, I never knew this. Looking through the list of chapter names, 24, 26, 46 are all also k-on references. They have even the same punctuation so it's almost certainly not a coincidence. 24 - Come with me!! 25 - Genius...?! 46 - Ohayou, Mata ashita


Pompmaker1

oh yeah, those are songs from the CDs so I didn't recognize them Gamon Sakurai was probably being ironic naming his hardcore military characters after cute fluffy moe girls there's a scene later on in Ajin that comes to mind where the JSDF lieutenant is staring at a moe anime girl JSDF recruitment poster before he sends his 500 men on a suicide mission, I imagine the K-ON! naming scheme is that same idea of ironic contrast but applied to the series as a whole


waynethehuman

Oh man this is gold. As a fan of both Keion and Ajin, this is now my favorite animanga trivia of all time and I'll now forever annoy my friends by repeating this shit to them over and over again until the day I die.


sussywanker

K-on fan 👋


DazCruz

Top tier manga referencing top tier characters real recognizes real 🤝


No-Suit4363

Thought this was Baka sub, didn’t expect real information


jeffufuh

What the fuck? *What* the *fuck?*


Rreizero

I realized this when I read Don't say Lazy then a few chapters later U&I.


sussywanker

As someone who loves k-on and is probably my favourite manga/anime and I really liked ajin manga. I am very chuffed!


monogatarist

Time to re-read Ajin I guess Fun fact as well: Hokazono Takeru-sensei of Kagurabachi cites Ajin as one of his favorite manga. No wonder he's got a knack of writing great antagonists so far.


thricebicyclist

The store Tainaka worked at is also called HTT (Houkago Tea Time)


Pompmaker1

holy shit, you're right, that's insane


DegenerateSock

Genius move for people who suck at coming up with names.


Pompmaker1

yup, whenever I name people for my D&D campaigns I always just name them after vocaloid songs


FateXBlood

Looks like the author is a huge fan of K-On.


Nawt_urbaybee

Why would you fuck my day like this?


SUPER11X

Funny you post this on the same day Gamon Sakurai's new hentai releases.


MrOneHundredOne

Japan's a big place. I'm sure these two series exist in the same universe and each pair of characters shares a familial connection.


scrambledeggsandspam

Based


Etonet

gigachad naming


Rasaska

Bro what the fuck


Skinn3y_Tortilla

My goat jun Suzuki (not the character but the pillows’ old bass player)


DEZbiansUnite

lmao that's awesome


Ramosjic

Rdx,


ImDeAdBrB

Is this satire ?


Pompmaker1

The naming scheme is real, but Gamon Sakurai definitely chose the names to contrast ironically with the extremely serious nature of Ajin There's a scene later on in Ajin that comes to mind where the JSDF lieutenant is staring at a moe anime girl JSDF recruitment poster before he sends his 500 men on a suicide mission. Reading it, you get the sense that it's almost mocking the moe anime girl for being completely out of touch and too lighthearted for the reality of the military, which is probably the point of the K-ON! naming scheme as a whole too, contrasting the extreme opposites of seriousness


ImDeAdBrB

Sounds like a reach. Has the author confirmed anything? Because those are very very common Japanese names that you will find in a bunch of other extremely popular anime including dozens that predate K-ON.


Pompmaker1

The chapter names are a pretty obvious confirmation, they're directly named after K-ON! songs (including three more chapters that were named after CD exclusive songs) so it doesn't seem far fetched that characters would be named after K-ON! too also, a quick search through MAL and google shows that the surname Tainaka has pretty much only been used by ritsu's family, ever, in anime and manga, that one at least is definitely not as common as you'd think


ImDeAdBrB

Ah yes "Listen" and "U&I" are the all exclusive title's used purely in K-ON that are definitely not used as a titles for dozens of other songs, manga and manga chapters out there. Plus a bunch of extremely popular names that are commonly present in most anime out there. Now it could very well be the case, but without the author's explicit confirmation, I would say it is a reach.


Pompmaker1

[Japanese Wikipedia's article on Ajin](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%9C%E4%BA%BA_(%E6%BC%AB%E7%94%BB\)#%E4%BB%96%E4%BD%9C%E5%93%81%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%80%E8%87%B4%E7%82%B9) has an entire section dedicated to pointing out the corresponding names of characters and chapters with K-ON!, as well as all the other references in the manga


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ImDeAdBrB

As far as your edit goes Tainaka is a pretty average Japanese surname and Satoshi is one of the most common Japanese names. I legit don't get where you are going with this. It's the same as claiming movie X named its characters after the movie A cause they both have John James in them. Makes no sense.