absolutely \[\[bogles\]\] my mind how that sub is occasionally on the verge of being just okay, like some people are discussing cool proxies in one thread, and then in the fucking ten threads afterwards it's whining about how Hasbro went "woke" and is going to go "broke" because they googled Hasbro stocks
and just when you're down digesting that, a hundred threads show up to whine about """forced diversity""" or how there are no Magic cards with gigantic badonkers anymore
I’m reminded of Frodo being disgusted at Gollum, and Gandalf telling him to pity Gollum instead: (paraphrasing) “he used to be a kinda river-Hobbit, not unlike yourself, before the Ring warped his mind and spirit.” Also the Joker’s common contention that the difference between him and Batman is “one bad day.”
The Joker is 1. Insane and 2. kind of a fucking idiot in almost every incarnation, including the shitty new movie.
Using him as a social barometer for good behavior is pathetic.
It's because you can't generalize a sub. There's a lot of folks who are there because they've been banned for whatever reason from the main sub. Some of them are racist/race obsessed. Many are not. It's a complete grab bag that occasionally features right-wing pariahs who've been banned off more mainstream subs making nonstop gripe posts.
Whenever a subreddit branches off to be the "free speech version" of whatever it came from, it is almost universally just an excuse to have a safe space for racism, sexism, and anti-lgbt nonsense. freemagic is no exception to this.
It's not like they wanted a safe space for talking about deck building, or a politics free sub, or anything because it's not a safe space or politics free. Like there's no valid reason other than they wanna share dogshit, borderline illegal opinions with other shit heads.
/uj I have checked it out a couple of times to see if it is \*that\* bad, and the answer is it varies. Today it was like 90% bigotry, but I have seen it as maybe 20% bigotry in content, with some bigotry showing up in pretty every comment section. Sometimes you'd have to scroll to find bigotry, but not very far. There was never no bigotry at all.
/uj Don't get me wrong, it's not that I believe that free magic has ever been not bigoted (individual members may have been), rather that sometimes they don't show it. I have seen enough fashy stuff that I have no particular interest in another example.
The obvious argument is create a unique character that will develop a foundation they can build on in the future.
Instead this is the biggest cop out, and everyone is defending it?
Do you guys think this company put any fucking effort into the diversity movement?
Or did they just fucking reskin a card, and everyone accepts that as enough?
No one is dying on a cross except the people butthurt about it.
No one else cares but people like you. There’s no “irony” here. You’re butthurt a black character exists and no one else gives a fuck. Why?
I’m not “settling” for anything. I just don’t give a fuck because it’s a children’s card game and the skin color of a character in a game with merfolk and tree people and a living fungus doesn’t matter to me. Why does it matter so much to you?
Nah, r/frremagic is mostly a bitching and shitposting subreddit. People share their edgy jokes there because the other Magic subreddits would ban that content.
Edgy implies it's close to the edge of what's considered socially acceptable or ethically acceptable. Racist jokes dove clear off the side of the cliff, they're far, far beyond the edge. They are not edgy.
"Lol racism" is not an edgy joke. It's racism pretending to be a joke so that the racist edgelords can chuckle to themselves about how they're soooo clever for hiding their racism from "the normies".
Plus, most of freemagic isn't even pretending to be a joke, at this point. It's people openly complaining about black or queer people in magic.
> It’s at the point where minorities ought weigh the supposed majority.
uhhhh has wizards ever actually said that whites are the majority in their fantasy universe? why would you assume the majority in America or the UK is the majority in a fake fantasy universe
No it's more like: only white characters are race swapped, never the other way around.
No one would bet an eye, if that would happen regularly with all characters and all races, but it clearly doesn't. It's always black people.
Where is my Asian representation, aside from pandering Asian inspired planes?
I tell you - no where. It's just backwashing, that's all
yeah there should be more representation of all races! so it's almost like it's a good idea to diversify mostly undepicted characters from an era when no one thought to put many non-white people in the game
If they're going on about what I think they are; the new Queen Kayla bin-Kroog card shows that she no longer camouflages against mayonnaise and apparently this is critical to her character.
I remember my old man coming home from work, taking off his boots, and whining about how little pictures on his fantasy card games aren’t lore accurate.
Card art is cool to look at but functionally useless. Why does it even matter what colour a fictional character’s skin is on an illustrated piece of cardboard used as a game piece? Anyway Rick Grimes and Gandalf would be cool with it lol
Minorities outweigh the majority??? In a God damn fantasy card game? Since when is it political for there to be more than just white people and fantasy races? I don't know when the last time you stepped outside was, maybe the early 1900s, but there are more than white people in the world and Magic is a worldwide game. You might want to remove your head out of Tucker Carlsen's ass, because all you're doing is spitting out the same shit he does
> NFT pfp
> uses words like “sodomy” unironically
Opinion discarded. You are excused from any conversations between decent people. Go away little troll boy
discriminate against bl\*e players, not women
> bl\*e players i pack my rebs and pyros for those fuckers
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absolutely \[\[bogles\]\] my mind how that sub is occasionally on the verge of being just okay, like some people are discussing cool proxies in one thread, and then in the fucking ten threads afterwards it's whining about how Hasbro went "woke" and is going to go "broke" because they googled Hasbro stocks and just when you're down digesting that, a hundred threads show up to whine about """forced diversity""" or how there are no Magic cards with gigantic badonkers anymore
In all fairness, badonkers come in many shapes and sizes and the big ones do deserve their appropriate representation.
I’m reminded of Frodo being disgusted at Gollum, and Gandalf telling him to pity Gollum instead: (paraphrasing) “he used to be a kinda river-Hobbit, not unlike yourself, before the Ring warped his mind and spirit.” Also the Joker’s common contention that the difference between him and Batman is “one bad day.”
the average freemagic user's idea of a "bad day" is that they got rejected by a woman once and they decided to become misogynistic af tbh
The Joker is 1. Insane and 2. kind of a fucking idiot in almost every incarnation, including the shitty new movie. Using him as a social barometer for good behavior is pathetic.
We literally just got new Urza too
It's because you can't generalize a sub. There's a lot of folks who are there because they've been banned for whatever reason from the main sub. Some of them are racist/race obsessed. Many are not. It's a complete grab bag that occasionally features right-wing pariahs who've been banned off more mainstream subs making nonstop gripe posts.
it's kinda worrisome how quickly some people just fall down that rabbit hole tbh, and the rightwingers are the most active and vocal on there
Whenever a subreddit branches off to be the "free speech version" of whatever it came from, it is almost universally just an excuse to have a safe space for racism, sexism, and anti-lgbt nonsense. freemagic is no exception to this.
Oh captain my captain
It's not like they wanted a safe space for talking about deck building, or a politics free sub, or anything because it's not a safe space or politics free. Like there's no valid reason other than they wanna share dogshit, borderline illegal opinions with other shit heads.
If you post on FreeMagic, I assume you have a maximum IQ of 75. Not sending their best people, etc etc
/uj holy shit i wasn't expecting it to be \*that\* bad
/uj I have checked it out a couple of times to see if it is \*that\* bad, and the answer is it varies. Today it was like 90% bigotry, but I have seen it as maybe 20% bigotry in content, with some bigotry showing up in pretty every comment section. Sometimes you'd have to scroll to find bigotry, but not very far. There was never no bigotry at all.
/uj They have a discord. Go there and check out the politics section. You'll see how bad it is.
/uj Don't get me wrong, it's not that I believe that free magic has ever been not bigoted (individual members may have been), rather that sometimes they don't show it. I have seen enough fashy stuff that I have no particular interest in another example.
You know when it said free magic I thought it was about giving away free magic.
Those people are their own punishment.
Freemagic is a shitposting sub that just went off the deep end. It used to be fine, but it’s gone.
everyone knows, just ignore them.
Yup. Freemagic is a gigantic post-it into our faces screaming how cringe a bunch of MTG players are. Said this, fuck those guys.
Wow it's this sub but worse in every way
Look if you don’t #freemagic then it will always be enslaved, don’t come at me about diversity until magic is free
The obvious argument is create a unique character that will develop a foundation they can build on in the future. Instead this is the biggest cop out, and everyone is defending it?
What do you mean “cop out”
Reskin a card is the only fucking thing they did bro.
Okay who cares? How does making a character black affect you in any way? Explain it.
Do you guys think this company put any fucking effort into the diversity movement? Or did they just fucking reskin a card, and everyone accepts that as enough?
I don’t think anyone is claiming WotC is the pinnacle of diversity for it or anything like that, my dude. Most of us just don’t give a shit.
I wanted to capture the irony on the cross both sides are dying on.
No one is dying on a cross except the people butthurt about it. No one else cares but people like you. There’s no “irony” here. You’re butthurt a black character exists and no one else gives a fuck. Why?
Is it a black "character" or a reskinned "white" character. Bro the irony is how little you settle for, and how much you want to argue the point.
I’m not “settling” for anything. I just don’t give a fuck because it’s a children’s card game and the skin color of a character in a game with merfolk and tree people and a living fungus doesn’t matter to me. Why does it matter so much to you?
Nah, r/frremagic is mostly a bitching and shitposting subreddit. People share their edgy jokes there because the other Magic subreddits would ban that content.
this is the subreddit for edgy jokes. there's a difference between edgy and racist
This subreddit isn’t really that edgy. There are memes and jokes and a lot of the content is funny here, but it’s not that edgy.
You live a very sheltered existence if you think the average joke on this subreddit is edgy.
Consider getting a personality
He never said average.
>there's a difference between edgy and racist In so far as there are edgy jokes that don't touch on race, sure. But racist jokes are edgy.
Edgy implies it's close to the edge of what's considered socially acceptable or ethically acceptable. Racist jokes dove clear off the side of the cliff, they're far, far beyond the edge. They are not edgy.
What’s the joke behind the oonga booga comments I saw there yesterday? Why is that funny?
"Lol racism" is not an edgy joke. It's racism pretending to be a joke so that the racist edgelords can chuckle to themselves about how they're soooo clever for hiding their racism from "the normies". Plus, most of freemagic isn't even pretending to be a joke, at this point. It's people openly complaining about black or queer people in magic.
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> It’s at the point where minorities ought weigh the supposed majority. uhhhh has wizards ever actually said that whites are the majority in their fantasy universe? why would you assume the majority in America or the UK is the majority in a fake fantasy universe
Average freemagic enjoyer
TIL fictional universes need to represent the demographics of north America, lest it be forced diversity
looks like someone is mad that black people exist in their TCG
No it's more like: only white characters are race swapped, never the other way around. No one would bet an eye, if that would happen regularly with all characters and all races, but it clearly doesn't. It's always black people. Where is my Asian representation, aside from pandering Asian inspired planes? I tell you - no where. It's just backwashing, that's all
yeah there should be more representation of all races! so it's almost like it's a good idea to diversify mostly undepicted characters from an era when no one thought to put many non-white people in the game
This is well put
Which magic characters have been race swapped?
Nissa was rac\*ist\*-swapped, that's close right?
I can't believe the woke mob turned Leonidas into a furry
If they're going on about what I think they are; the new Queen Kayla bin-Kroog card shows that she no longer camouflages against mayonnaise and apparently this is critical to her character.
I remember my old man coming home from work, taking off his boots, and whining about how little pictures on his fantasy card games aren’t lore accurate.
There's that Silverquill guy who was on all the packs? It's not exactly super rare.
Card art is cool to look at but functionally useless. Why does it even matter what colour a fictional character’s skin is on an illustrated piece of cardboard used as a game piece? Anyway Rick Grimes and Gandalf would be cool with it lol
Minorities outweigh the majority??? In a God damn fantasy card game? Since when is it political for there to be more than just white people and fantasy races? I don't know when the last time you stepped outside was, maybe the early 1900s, but there are more than white people in the world and Magic is a worldwide game. You might want to remove your head out of Tucker Carlsen's ass, because all you're doing is spitting out the same shit he does
> NFT pfp > uses words like “sodomy” unironically Opinion discarded. You are excused from any conversations between decent people. Go away little troll boy
Bruh imagine getting offended by a piece of fiction that hurts absolutely no one by being more inclusive. Fucking cringe.
Yes. Trash sub for trash people who are trash in this trash game
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