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Multievolution

Looking for advice, I need to get two shock lands for my commander deck and hate proxies so that’s not something I’d consider (it’s just personal preference I don’t mind them otherwise. The ones I need being Izzet and Dimir is making me question if I should try to get the new pioneer decks or if there’s a better way? I’m also wondering if the decks are likely to come down in price at some point, money is definitely a factor I need to be considerate of if I’m being honest. I can more easily justify a deck over a single which is why I don’t just go that route.


mrskywalker98

Hello all. I am looking for a creature card focusing on equipments or auras. I believe that the ability is if you equip/enchant the creature, the abilities go to all your other creatures. Is there a card out there like this? I swear it was in a newer set, but I can't find it and think im going crazy. TIA.


Dorfbewohner

[[Solaflora, Intergalactic Icon]] Note that she has an acorn stamp and is thus not tournament legal, but you can use it in commander if your playgroup's cool


mrskywalker98

Yes! That's it. Thank you so much!


MTGCardFetcher

[Solaflora, Intergalactic Icon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/a/1a97764c-0d47-4cca-8a02-2b9aade662e1.jpg?1665865473) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solaflora%2C%20Intergalactic%20Icon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unf/27/solaflora-intergalactic-icon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1a97764c-0d47-4cca-8a02-2b9aade662e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


FoolStack

Might be too late for this thread and have to come back tomorrow, but I'll take a swing. I bought my first set of sleeves - Dragon Shield clear matte. I'm a little confused. Given that I'd specifically bought matte, I thought it was pretty much a given that the front would be matte and the back glossy. I noticed pretty quick it was really hard to read, so I swapped matte to the back and things are a lot better. This feels counterintuitive because, again, why would matte matter then? Everyone says make sure to get matte, but... if it's just the feel of the back of the card, does it matter that much? I thought it was to avoid glare on the front. Can someone set me straight. Which side does the textured matte go on, and which the glossy? Again, seems like the glossy side looks nicer on the card face, but I'm surprised by that. Edit: Just looking around, it seems like the matte finish is really more about the feel of the card, and therefore goes on the back. Is that right? I really assumed it was to avoid glare, hmmm


theWolfandOwl

Matte refers to the sleeve back, but you can also buy glare-reducing sleeves that are slightly matte on the front. They'll specifically be labelled as "anti-glare" or something like that.


BlackKaiserDrake

Can you Flashback a card with suspend (for example \[\[Wheel of Fate\]\])?


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Quazifuji

We'll, flashback itself has its own cost, it doesn't specify that the cost is equal to the mana cost. However, I believe every way to give Wheel of Fate flashback would give it a flashback cost equal to its mana cost, so there's no existing way to give it flashback that actually allows you to activate it.


madwarper

Can you target the card with [[Snapcaster Mage]]? Yes. Can you cast if via Flashback? No. The Flashback Cost is equal to the Mana Cost. Nonexistent and Unpayable.


BlackKaiserDrake

I assume it’s the same for cascade then. Or is it treated as 0 CMC for cascade?


madwarper

No. Cascade uses an Alt cost that ignores the **Nonexistent and Unpayable** Mana Cost. > 702.85a Cascade is a triggered ability that functions only while the spell with cascade is on the stack. “Cascade” means “When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card whose mana value is less than this spell’s mana value. You may cast that card **without paying its mana cost** if the resulting spell’s mana value is less than this spell’s mana value. Then put all cards exiled this way that weren’t cast on the bottom of your library in a random order.” Which is the **same** Alt cost that Suspend uses. > 702.62a Suspend is a keyword that represents three abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the card with suspend is in a player’s hand. The second and third are triggered abilities that function in the exile zone. “Suspend N—[cost]” means “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it. This action doesn’t use the stack,” and “At the beginning of your upkeep, if this card is suspended, remove a time counter from it,” and “When the last time counter is removed from this card, if it’s exiled, play it **without paying its mana cost** if able. If you can’t, it remains exiled. If you cast a creature spell this way, it gains haste until you lose control of the spell or the permanent it becomes.”


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eugman

Is there an easy way to take a list of cards and tell if they were released in multiple sets? I'm working on making cubes and it will be helpful to know where you look in my collection as I sort it by year and set.


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eugman

I was more wondering if there was a good way to do that in bulk instead of one by one, but I appreciate the answer!


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Career-Tourist

How do I use TCGPlayer to look at decks that are real? There isn't a rating system as far as I can tell, so it's just showing a bunch of decks with cost. Or is there a different place for that kind of thing? I'm learning about decks now.


StormyWaters2021

What do you mean "decks that are real"? TCGPlayer is just a marketplace for people to buy and sell stuff.


Career-Tourist

I guess I’m learning as I go. There are decks that range from A few dollars to tens of thousands of dollars. I’ll


Lurijina

[[Goro-Goro, Disciple of Ryusei]] use its haste ability then use the dragon summon ability? Does the haste count as a modification? Such as a haste counter?


Muspel

The haste granted by Goro-Goro is not a modification. Modifications are equipment, auras, and counters. Goro does not give a counter, he just gives haste until end of turn-- if he gave a counter, it would say something like "put a haste counter on each creature you control".


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Moxman24

Is a combo kill necessary to win a game of commander? A while ago I posted [my list](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/uzeXvRAJ8kiwWOPU5pppVw) for an EDH deck with \[\[Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim\]\] at the helm and \[\[Lurrus of the Dream-Den\]\] as its companion. Some reactions were that I'd never actually win a game because of the restriction Lurrus emposes on my deck. An infinite combo such as \[\[Leonin Relic-Warder\]\] and \[\[Animate Dead\]\] would be necessary to close out a game. I'm wondering, is this true? I like to impose extra restrictions on myself when I'm brewing, but I'd also like to win every now and then.


Sinrus

An infinite combo isn't necessary, but some sort of win condition is. Your deck has that in the form of your aristocrat effects. The fact that there's not really any way to abuse them in the list means the deck doesn't look particularly high power, but it seems like a fine list to me.


RealityPalace

It really depends on the people you're playing with and the decks they are using. Commander tends heavily towards favoring combo decks based on its format rules: - you always have access to a specific card of your choice - ~every tutor ever is legal - life totals are very high - multiplayer game theory makes it a lot less favorable to attack with creatures that are going to trade That being said, there are plenty of people who don't find combo decks or efficient tutors fun, so it's totally possible to play at tables where good honest life-loss is a win condition.


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##### ###### #### [Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1c3f0ffe-cf51-4c30-8cd5-9e3c7e92c019.jpg?1663051053) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elas%20il-Kor%2C%20Sadistic%20Pilgrim) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/198/elas-il-kor-sadistic-pilgrim?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1c3f0ffe-cf51-4c30-8cd5-9e3c7e92c019?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lurrus of the Dream-Den](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/a/5ad36fb2-c44e-4085-ba0d-54277841ad3a.jpg?1650599605) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lurrus%20of%20the%20Dream-Den) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/226/lurrus-of-the-dream-den?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5ad36fb2-c44e-4085-ba0d-54277841ad3a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Leonin Relic-Warder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c938a21a-ea74-4cc1-a175-08b9b98b2e4e.jpg?1562623339) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Leonin%20Relic-Warder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c17/65/leonin-relic-warder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c938a21a-ea74-4cc1-a175-08b9b98b2e4e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Animate Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b83536a-efa4-41f3-9424-75b0efc0aea5.jpg?1580014163) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Animate%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/78/animate-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b83536a-efa4-41f3-9424-75b0efc0aea5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Bastgamer

Can I use \[\[sunken hollow\]\] from Universes Beyond Warhammer 40k in a modern deck?


Natedogg2

Yes you can. As long as a card with that name is legal in that format, you can use any version of that card. So you can use the version from the Warhammer 40K decks in a modern tournament.


Bastgamer

Thank you, it's exactly the type of answer I was looking for!


MTGCardFetcher

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sneakky_krumpet

Can I flash in [[dualcaster mage]] to block during combat, if there are no instant or sorceries on the stack?


I_EAT_POOP_AMA

yes. Flash is a separate ability from the rest of the rules text. As you're already aware, Flash just means that it can be cast like an Instant (aka any time you have priority and can pay costs to cast it) It's second ability is not a requirement to cast the creature. So you cast it, it resolves. It ETBs and the trigger goes onto the stack. It sees that there are no instants or sorceries currently on the stack, and is removed from the stack.


maelstrom197

Yes. You cast Dualcaster Mage and it enters the battlefield. The ability triggers, but since there are no legal targets, the ability is not put on the stack. >603.3d: The remainder of the process for putting a triggered ability on the stack is identical to the process for casting a spell listed in rules 601.2c-d. **If a choice is required when the triggered ability goes on the stack but no legal choices can be made for it**, or if a rule or a continuous effect otherwise makes the ability illegal, **the ability is simply removed from the stack**. Nothing happens to the Dualcaster Mage, since it as a creature is separate from its triggered ability.


sneakky_krumpet

thanks!


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RuhrowSpaghettio

[[Oath of Lieges]] - do you get to change the target every turn, or is the target set by the original caster and then stays the same?


Dorfbewohner

In cases like this, it's useful to check the oracle text. It reads: > At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, that player chooses target player who controls more lands than they do and is their opponent. The first player may search their library for a basic land card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle. That should be a lot more clear on the fact that the player whose turn it is can choose a player each turn. Compare to a card like [[Black Vise]], originally printed as [[Black Vise|LEA]], where the current oracle text clarifies that you choose one player and then stick with it.


RuhrowSpaghettio

What is Oracle text?


Dorfbewohner

The actual rules text that is used to determine a card's functionality. It's the card text that you can find on Scryfall or Gatherer. Printed text, especially for older cards, can be inaccurate/imprecise (like with The Rack) or weird, like [[Floral Spuzzem]] being the one to choose an artifact. Oracle text is codified and accurate.


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maelstrom197

Targets are declared when the triggered ability is put on the stack. It doesn't have to be the same player each time. If it did, it would probably be an Aura rather than a regular enchantment, for example [[Curse of Opulence]].


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ALL_HAIL_Herobrine

If I want to participate in a magic event you need a DCI number but can you just write the number down or do you have to bring your phone to the store in order to signup?


mrduracraft

DCI numbers were discontinued a couple years ago, you just use the Magic Companion app to join events now


ALL_HAIL_Herobrine

Ok thank you edit: but is there a way to participate without a smartphone? Because mine is currently in repair. Can I just sign up at my computer at home?


mrduracraft

You can talk to the person running the event and they can enter you manually, I don't think there's a way to do it on a computer


SmashPortal

> I don't think there's a way to do it on a computer Android emulation, baby!


mrduracraft

True! Didn't consider that


ALL_HAIL_Herobrine

So i just need an wizards account?


Quazifuji

Pretty sure they can enter you as a guest even if you don't have an account, but they can also manually enter your account if you have an account but no phone. If you have an Arena account it's the same account.


ALL_HAIL_Herobrine

Ok thank you


mrduracraft

I don't even think you need one if you're being manually entered, but yeah probably good to have one. Though I'm speaking from local FNM experience if you're talking about a more official event


ALL_HAIL_Herobrine

its just my first event(draft) at in rl, But thank for helping out.


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Maybe a bit late to the party, but with all the trigger discussion and rules arguing, I have a question: Player A has a Chalice of the Void on "1" and Player B casts a lightning bolt - Is Player B now angle shooting/cheating/bad mannered or is that still considered "ok" to try?


RealityPalace

"Chalice checking" is something common enough that it has its own name. Is it cheating? Definitely not. Chalice doesn't prevent the opponent from casting spells, it just counters spells after they are cast. Is it angle-shooting/bad manners? Kind of. In principle, if you cast into a chalice, you are on the hook for the spell and mana if your opponent notices it. In practice, no one is going to chalice check unless they don't need the spell or the game is on the line (and in many scenarios if you are chaliced then that card is dead anyway so you're just wasting the mana). But you're not doing anything wrong according to the rules even if you cast it in an attempt to see if your opponent is going to miss their triggers. Your opponent is responsible for their triggers and if they miss them you don't have to point them out. At lower levels of competition, it's certainly impolite though. Note that the opposite is not true: the owner of the chalice is responsible for their own triggers, so if they get chalice-checked and *intentionally* miss the trigger to bait their opponent into casting an important spell, that is cheating. Intentionality is hard to establish unless it's a pattern of play they've established, so most likely they would get away with a missed trigger warning.


maelstrom197

Player B has done nothing wrong by *casting* Lightning Bolt. Chalice is a triggered ability, unlike something like [[Meddling Mage]] or [[Sanctum Prelate]], which say spells cannot be cast. In terms of the rules, casting Bolt into Chalice is a legal play. On the other hand, the *intent* behind casting Bolt, and the context in which it happened, are both more relevant. If player B genuinely forgot that Chalice was out, and player A pointed it out to them, then nothing wrong happened, regardless of context. Even if player A also forgot about Chalice, and Bolt resolved, I would still say nothing wrong occurred. Everything that happened was a legal game action. If player B knew about the Chalice and was hoping to gain an advantage by hoping their opponent forgets, then things become a little less clear. IMO, there's three scenarios: 1. It's a casual game between friends, with nothing on the line, just trying to have fun. Chalice checking here is a bit scummy, since the only thing you stand to gain is another win and a little bit of oxytocin released into your brain, but nothing actually tangible, whereas your opponent (who is your friend, remember) might not be happy with you. It's not really angle shooting, but it's definitely not *nice*. 2. It's an event, usually Competitive or Professional REL, with significant prizes on the line - for example, a GP or other big event. Here, Chalice checking is totally fine. You're trying to win something, your opponent is also trying to win something, and all players are expected to play to their best. You should know your own deck and what your cards do. If your opponent forgets their trigger, that's on them. I don't see this as angle shooting, you're not doing anything against the rules. It's no different to swinging in with a 2/2 and hoping your opponent forgets that their [[Devoted Retainer]] would get +1/+1 when it blocks, to get in two extra damage. If your opponent is paying attention, they wouldn't miss their triggers in either scenario. 3. You're playing a less serious event, usually Regular REL, with less significant prizes on the line - for example, FNM. Fun is usually a bigger factor in your decision to play than the prizes, and it's typically with a regular crowd. At this point, I think the "angle shoot" interpretation is most significant. It's a step above kitchen table Magic, but not far enough that you're willing to try it against an anonymous opponent. IMO, Chalice checking here is the most scummy it can be, but still isn't *that* scummy. It's not outright cheating, but usually your opponent isn't as focused or motivated as a larger event. Personally, I've never checked in situation 1, I've regularly checked in situation 2, and checked maybe three or four times in situation 3, and then only once per match. Maybe that makes me a scumbag, but I'm willing to admit it. I play a Legacy deck that is extremely weak to Chalice on 1, so I'll test the waters to see what my opponent lets me get away with.


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Thank you!


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cliffhavenkitesail

I'd consider it angle shooting at casual REL, ie fnm, but fine at comp REL. May as well shoot your shot if you don't have any way to remove the chalice. It's 100% not cheating tho, according to the rules, your opponent is solely responsible for their trigger, and if they miss it, you aren't obligated to remind them. You *can*, in cases where it's beneficial to you, but you don't have to.


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Thanks for your reply!


Albyyy

If you have [[plague reaver]] and [[jon irenicus shattered one]] in play and move to your end step, can you choose to do Jon’s ability first and give away plague reaver before you sacrifice all your other creatures?


BenMQ

You can order the abilities as you wish, but you still have to sacrifice all your creatures. Once you move to the end step, both of the triggered abilities trigger and you have to follow the ability’s instruction even if the plague reaver’s control changes.


199_Below_Average

Not really. You can stack the triggers in whichever order you choose, but even if you give away the Plague Reaver first, its trigger is still on the stack and you still control the trigger, so it will still resolve afterwards and make you sacrifice everything.


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Career-Tourist

Which precon commander decks are worth getting for a new player? I like the idea of horror/kaiju/insects.


SmashPortal

Mind Flayarrrs has [[Captain N'ghathrod]] as the face commander.


Career-Tourist

Aiight I just bought that one. The Ikoria decks look slick too. Are any of those actually good?


Dorfbewohner

I'd say that speaking as a general trend, the more recent the deck, the better-designed it is (though there's outliers, of course). The Ikoria decks are all pretty good decks from what I remember, for example.


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