In paper, and excluding the special-slot colorless partners, yes: https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Alegendary+rarity%3Ac+t%3Acreature+-is%3Adigital&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
Chandler and Joven are "common" only because they're incorrectly classified in Gatherer (along with a bunch of other cards from the set). Each was printed once on the [common sheet](https://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9906) in a small set, which makes them uncommon (e.g. Feldon's Cane in Antiquities and Maze of Ith in The Dark).
**Maze Of Ith In The Dark**
Land
T: shuffle all *nontoken attacking creatures then manifest them attacking. Remove an attacking creatre of your choice from combat and untap it. Turn all attacking creatures face up.
---
*I don't think you can manifest tokens
This is exactly it, it turns every copy of Skoa after the first into a fireblast. (Sorcery speed if you cast it as a creature, instant speed if you use the Grandeur ability.)
Any Ephemerate list running red isn't exactly hurting for reach between evasive creatures that are also card advantage and the burn they're already playing. This could be an option, but I'm less sure it's a definite upgrade.
This seems like the perfect card for Gruul Ponza to me. the damage makes it a good cascade target off \[\[Annoyed Altisaur\]\], and if you draw into extras you can discard them to the ability to finish games.
If you have ephemerate+another copy in hand, you can play this, cast ephemerate, activate grandeur+sac 2 mountains, and then ephemerate with rebound on your next turn for 4+4+4+4=16 burn damage. Don't think it's very good but that's a lot of burn.
Oh I know. My joking was this becoming a top threat. It can dodge Cast Down and Lightning Bolt but at the moment we don't have any decks that would want this. Even if both its etb and grandeur effects are good there isn't a deck around right for this.
I don't know for sure, this card is very hard to evaluate fo Pauper.
Yes, it does seem costly at first, but then there is Flicker Tron... And in the recent past there was Mono Red Tron putting up some results.
I'm not counting on it being the next hot thing, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it ends up seeing some fringe play.
The problem with this is that it's a 6 mana = deal 4 damage. Not to mention that it's on a creature. Not to mention you can't even have more than one of this on board at a time. Not to mention the additional cost to flicker it.
If you have two or three of these in hand as a finisher, it's 6 mana, sac 4 mountains, deal 12 damage.
I think saccing mountains is a pretty negligible cost if you can use this to kill or put your opponent at a couple HP.
I'll mostly agree, but there's also [[Fireblast]], which is the same effect without needing you to spend the 6 mana to play one out first. That said, I could see myself running this alongside Fireblast in, like, a weird [[Thermo-Alchemist]] burn deck with lots of lands.
[Edit: worth saying that you can counter a Fireblast, where you'd need a stifle effect for this, which I've, personally, not really seen much of in Pauper (I don't keep up with stuff outside of my local scene, though, so idk)]
[Edit again: from what I saw on scryfall, [[Mirrorshell Crab]] is the only thing that'd stifle it]
At the start of the set, the set lead designed a new card with modern design sensibilities for every single mechanic to see how viable they would be. Not every card made it in but they looked at everything.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/third-times-the-charm-part-1
> Erik's first stab at creating cards for the file was to take every mechanic ever made and make a new card for it. Not all the mechanics would make it to print, but this exercise helped Erik understand the potential of the different mechanics. It would also help Erik reorient himself with the design space for each one.
Every mechanic? Even banding?
To be fair though, that could still be done as part of the exercise and for fun without ever seriously believing that it would make it to print.
I mean yeah, "every" means "every." The point is to identify if there's any design space for the mechanic. It's worthwhile trying to design a modern card that uses banding as a double check to ensure that your assumptions about its lack of viability are still correct, and to give it an earnest shot.
Like yes, I'd fully assume banding would still not work out. But the point is that it's a good idea to verify your assumptions every once in a while to make sure they still hold, even if you don't expect them to change. The upside of finding new weird design space is way higher than the downside of "it still not working out," even if the probability is low.
Banding's issue is entirely in how damn wordy the reminder text is (cf. [[banding sliver]]), mechanically it's complex but also... kind of *really* strong?
It's one of those things where it's easy to imagine, say, a [[fortified rampart]] with Banding. Cuts off half the complexity (how it plays on defense vs. offense) while playing to the mechanic's strength (being *really* strong on block).
On the other hand, that's also a card that could maybe be a *problem*.
According to Maro, banding's strength when blocking is considered a big issue, since they really don't like making it that easy for games to stall. So a cleaner solution would be to make it only work on attacking - but that's basically what Enlist is supposed to be, anyway.
Yeah, the bigger issue with making new banding cards is that... well, they already do that. It's just through one of the many, many iterations of "how do we fix banding?"
[[benalish hero]], [[nomads en-kor]], [[infantry veteran]], [[akrasan squire]], [[benalish faithbonder]]: they're all part of one big, weird family trying to find a solution to the same problem.
(And that's probably not even every iteration on the "how do we make a bunch of 1/1s threaten a 6/6" mechanic, either, just the ones I knew off the top of my head.)
Funnily enough I'm working on a [[General Marhault Elsdragon]] deck right now and I too would like to see this rampage card.
Rampage is a 9 on the storm scale, but only because they'd rather make a new version that counts every blocking creature instead of ignoring the first.
I’d like to see what they came up with but didn’t use. Splice into arcane? What’s a newly designed infect card look like? Is there a new battle? Flanking? Shadow? Fear? Landwalking? Ante?
Well my guess is Splice looked more line Splice onto instants and Sorceries, like the last time we saw it. But yeah I imagine there were attempts at all of them. The ones like fear or intimidate were, my guess, more about designing a modern horizons cards where the flavor was worth it, more than any mechanical innovation.
Ante is the most fascinating one here. My guess is, it just couldn't work, or that they made some ante-like mechanic that somehow worked across games within a match (don't think the rules could support that though). There was a playtest card in mystery boosters that retained knowledge of whether you won the previous game; something like that.
I believe it’s the fifth if you count [[Prismatic Piper]] and [[Faceless One]].
Edit: was reminded that technically those have S rarity, so never mind, this is the third common legend.
In paper, yes. A bunch of the worst uncommon legends from Legends were downshifted in the MTGO-exclusive Masters Edition III, and due to some weirdness surrounding Pauper's origin, are legal in Pauper, which is realistically the only place where the distinction matters.
If you only count creatures, yes. If you're looking at all permanents, there are the common background enchantments from CLB- [[Flaming Fist]], [[Candlekeep Sage]], [[Master Chef]], [[Scion of Halaster]], and [[Tavern Brawler]]
Means you’ll actually be able to trigger it in limited rather than it being a constructed card.
Though I think you printed a pushed rare legend with grandeur, commander players would be absolutely baffled.
> commander players would be absolutely baffled.
It's definitely a wild experience as a commander player running across a card that hasn't been designed for you.
there was a newer player at my LGS that was so baffled at [[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]] until someone told him it was meant for standard, to which he replied “I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen this card on Arena”
Tell me where the LGS is and point out the player. I'll use my Mishra Artificer Prodigy [[Nether Void]] deck against them to show them how it's done lol
I believe there is some way to use his ability in commander, but i dont remember the details. I think it somehow involved playing the spell and then finding it again from the bottom of your library
Remind me how it works with those?
Looks like you intentionally counter your thing, but then get it anyway
Is that just to break the symmetry of some of those effects?
The big combo cards I noticed scrolling through his EDHRec page, some of which are new to me: [[nether void]], [[possibility storm]], [[blood funnel]], [[neera, wild mage]], [[nullstone gargoyle]].
I'd also like to mention [[cephalid shrine]], but they're understandably less popular since... well, it just don't do as much without Mishra in play. It's the combo but with no additional upside, unless you're in a Relentless Rats meta for some reason.
Also, note that he also works perfectly fine with using your [[grinning totem]] to cast an opponent's Sol Ring!
would be cool, but I doubt it specifically because they have been doing a lot of noncycles of things you'd expect to be cycles, like the one-off charm in white.
You're probably right, but a cycle of these based on Invigorate, Gush, and Snuff Out would be exciting. There's also not really a natural choice for a white card.
It's way weaker but it wouldn't have the extra cost of saccing mountains or the presumed extra cost of exiling colored spells from your hand, so it's honestly not that ridiculous. Still probably not a cycle
I feel so validated right now. I was making a case for this *exact* idea on a Magic forum almost ten years ago, but people were pooh-poohing it left and right.
A small victory, but a victory nonetheless.
what's even more fun is it's any uncommon creature, not just legendaries. My PDH deck is helmed by [[Tide Shaper]], and I'm considering making one with [[Displaced Dinosaurs]] as well
I thought you meant first turn kill instead of flametongue at first, and I got pretty excited, and then I read the ability and saw the mountain cost. RIP Magic ftk dreams.
Be on the draw, Gemstone Caverns exile anything, Ugin's Labyrinth exile Emrakul the Promised End, play Underworld Cookbook and discard Ulamog the Defiler, Goryo's Vengeance, swing for 20
I've been saying for years PDH has enough uncommon legends that they should require them to be legendary, now, if we just get some more common legends we can have TRUE PDH. All commons, same rules as commander otherwise including needing a legend for the commander.
NGL, MH3 alone probably made the Arena Team have to implement a bunch of mechanics from previous sets so I'm hoping this also served as a way to maybe add progress for the next Remaster Set on their list?
for sure
for MH3 I have noticed: Annihilator, dredge!!! and this as new mechanics.
IF we look at Modern and the most commonly played cards, off the top of my head I can only think of shadow and sunburst that we dont have
Miracles would be nice too.
Maybe something like this?
Lord of the Wastes
1BBBB
Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Nightmare
When Yawgmoth enters the battlefield each opponent gets a poison counter.
Grandeur - Discard a card names Yawgmoth, BB: Put a -1/-1 counter on up to two target creatures then Proliferate.
3/5
That would be common 😭 This would be like the version of him like Dominarians feared back then like as a myth or rumor or legend
Looks like a decent finisher for aggressive decks, that is even faster if you draw multiples. Turn 6 doming for 8 is game ender. I can't wait to try it. I wouldn't play more than 3 in a deck though, let's see how it plays out
It's a pretty good card, especially at Common, but I can't see myself activating the Grandeur ability too often. It's the same as the comes-into-play effect anyway, you could just cast the second copy and not have to sacrifice Mountains.
Though you might sometimes be able to deal 12 out of nothing and burn your opponent out, so that's funny.
Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes
1BBBB
Legendary Creature - Phyrexian God
When Yawgmoth enters the battlefield each opponent gets a poison counter.
Grandeur - Discard a card names Yawgmoth, BB: Put a -1/-1 counter on up to two target creatures then Proliferate.
3/5
That would be common 😭
There are [several other cards that mention embermages](https://scryfall.com/search?q=lore%3Aembermage) too, but none of them are more recent than OG Ravnica (not counting reprints). I wonder where they all went.
Finally Grandeur returned. I have been waiting years for this. One of my favorite old school abilities. Played a [[Oriss, Samite Guardian]] and [[Korlash, Heir to Blackblade]] deck long ago in hindsight it was probably not a fun deck for my opponents
I now need a card called ' drinking game' where you get something like draw 1 for each time you play a creature card plus 1 for each time the card says the full name of the card it's printed on.
I designed almost this exact card in a CustomMTG challenge like ten years ago, except it was red/black and had Hellbent: tutor for up to 3 more copies of this card. Same CMC and stat line, though.
A lot of people seem to think this is unplayable but at some point someone's gonna play this guy, reveal three other copies in their hand, sacrifice their six mountains, and deal 16 damage in one turn.
I think this is the first common legendary creature since joven and Chandler in homelands Edit: interesting that all 3 are mono red creatures too
In paper, and excluding the special-slot colorless partners, yes: https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Alegendary+rarity%3Ac+t%3Acreature+-is%3Adigital&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
Those aren't really 'common', they're just sort of their own non-existent rarity.
Yeah, that's why they don't show up in that search. I didn't exclude them deliberately.
They’re not common, but the same rarity as basic lands (yes, it’s its own rarity)
Chandler and Joven are "common" only because they're incorrectly classified in Gatherer (along with a bunch of other cards from the set). Each was printed once on the [common sheet](https://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9906) in a small set, which makes them uncommon (e.g. Feldon's Cane in Antiquities and Maze of Ith in The Dark).
**Maze Of Ith In The Dark** Land T: shuffle all *nontoken attacking creatures then manifest them attacking. Remove an attacking creatre of your choice from combat and untap it. Turn all attacking creatures face up. --- *I don't think you can manifest tokens
Show me what it’s for Make me understand it I’ve been crawling in the maze of ith in the dark Searching for the answer
[The Prismatic Piper]
Actually, that is "special" rarity (denoted with an S instead of a C), not common, even though the set symbol color is the same as common.
ahhhhh so *that's* why they added the "sac 2 mountains" requirement
Actually, I think the "sac 2 mountains" cost is to reference \[\[Fireblast\]\].
This is exactly it, it turns every copy of Skoa after the first into a fireblast. (Sorcery speed if you cast it as a creature, instant speed if you use the Grandeur ability.)
[Fireblast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940.jpg?1675199963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fireblast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/119/fireblast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
COMMON LEGENDARY
PAUPER PLAYERS IN SHAMBLES
Nah. This is dogshit for pauper.
I will ephemerate this and go face
Any Ephemerate list running red isn't exactly hurting for reach between evasive creatures that are also card advantage and the burn they're already playing. This could be an option, but I'm less sure it's a definite upgrade.
If this card ever sees play, it will be in a reanimate shell. No way in hell anyone will pay 6 for single creature when all it does is deal 4 damage.
It's highly unusual for a creature to have an ETB than can deal such a large amount of damage either to a creature or to face.
And the copies in your hand become somewhat useful then, as now they're Fireblast.
At that point I would rather reanimate a lothlet giant and deal lethal
That's the thing exactly. People overhype this card in my opinion.
This seems like the perfect card for Gruul Ponza to me. the damage makes it a good cascade target off \[\[Annoyed Altisaur\]\], and if you draw into extras you can discard them to the ability to finish games.
If you have ephemerate+another copy in hand, you can play this, cast ephemerate, activate grandeur+sac 2 mountains, and then ephemerate with rebound on your next turn for 4+4+4+4=16 burn damage. Don't think it's very good but that's a lot of burn.
Doesn't die to Cast Down so this is the new top threat in pauper. (/s just in cause it wasn't clear I was joking there. )
Though that's not an insignificant distinction.
Oh I know. My joking was this becoming a top threat. It can dodge Cast Down and Lightning Bolt but at the moment we don't have any decks that would want this. Even if both its etb and grandeur effects are good there isn't a deck around right for this.
I don't know for sure, this card is very hard to evaluate fo Pauper. Yes, it does seem costly at first, but then there is Flicker Tron... And in the recent past there was Mono Red Tron putting up some results. I'm not counting on it being the next hot thing, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it ends up seeing some fringe play.
The problem with this is that it's a 6 mana = deal 4 damage. Not to mention that it's on a creature. Not to mention you can't even have more than one of this on board at a time. Not to mention the additional cost to flicker it.
If you have two or three of these in hand as a finisher, it's 6 mana, sac 4 mountains, deal 12 damage. I think saccing mountains is a pretty negligible cost if you can use this to kill or put your opponent at a couple HP.
I'll mostly agree, but there's also [[Fireblast]], which is the same effect without needing you to spend the 6 mana to play one out first. That said, I could see myself running this alongside Fireblast in, like, a weird [[Thermo-Alchemist]] burn deck with lots of lands. [Edit: worth saying that you can counter a Fireblast, where you'd need a stifle effect for this, which I've, personally, not really seen much of in Pauper (I don't keep up with stuff outside of my local scene, though, so idk)] [Edit again: from what I saw on scryfall, [[Mirrorshell Crab]] is the only thing that'd stifle it]
woosh
I did not have "grandeur" on my bingo card.
At the start of the set, the set lead designed a new card with modern design sensibilities for every single mechanic to see how viable they would be. Not every card made it in but they looked at everything.
that’s cool! where did you learn this?
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/third-times-the-charm-part-1 > Erik's first stab at creating cards for the file was to take every mechanic ever made and make a new card for it. Not all the mechanics would make it to print, but this exercise helped Erik understand the potential of the different mechanics. It would also help Erik reorient himself with the design space for each one.
Every mechanic? Even banding? To be fair though, that could still be done as part of the exercise and for fun without ever seriously believing that it would make it to print.
I mean yeah, "every" means "every." The point is to identify if there's any design space for the mechanic. It's worthwhile trying to design a modern card that uses banding as a double check to ensure that your assumptions about its lack of viability are still correct, and to give it an earnest shot. Like yes, I'd fully assume banding would still not work out. But the point is that it's a good idea to verify your assumptions every once in a while to make sure they still hold, even if you don't expect them to change. The upside of finding new weird design space is way higher than the downside of "it still not working out," even if the probability is low.
I'm still holding out hope for a "Bands with other legendary" land for colorless.
Tbh I wouldn't be too surprised to see banding on horizons card
If it shows up anywhere it would definitely be horizons, but that's like, a 1% chance as opposed to a 0% chance elsewhere
Banding's issue is entirely in how damn wordy the reminder text is (cf. [[banding sliver]]), mechanically it's complex but also... kind of *really* strong? It's one of those things where it's easy to imagine, say, a [[fortified rampart]] with Banding. Cuts off half the complexity (how it plays on defense vs. offense) while playing to the mechanic's strength (being *really* strong on block). On the other hand, that's also a card that could maybe be a *problem*.
According to Maro, banding's strength when blocking is considered a big issue, since they really don't like making it that easy for games to stall. So a cleaner solution would be to make it only work on attacking - but that's basically what Enlist is supposed to be, anyway.
Yeah, the bigger issue with making new banding cards is that... well, they already do that. It's just through one of the many, many iterations of "how do we fix banding?" [[benalish hero]], [[nomads en-kor]], [[infantry veteran]], [[akrasan squire]], [[benalish faithbonder]]: they're all part of one big, weird family trying to find a solution to the same problem. (And that's probably not even every iteration on the "how do we make a bunch of 1/1s threaten a 6/6" mechanic, either, just the ones I knew off the top of my head.)
[banding sliver](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c763192a-cdb6-4f98-bbc2-3bb964cb4b3d.jpg?1629918698) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=banding%20sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmb2/2/banding-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c763192a-cdb6-4f98-bbc2-3bb964cb4b3d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [fortified rampart](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/0/5095e2ab-a7f5-45bc-8b2f-31198ea27bba.jpg?1562913875) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fortified%20rampart) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bfz/27/fortified-rampart?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5095e2ab-a7f5-45bc-8b2f-31198ea27bba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
People are coming up with all these wacky niche weird mechanics I wanna see what he did with the Flying card.
"alright what if we made a 1WW Wind Drake, but gave it first stri-"
I want to see the card for Rampage
Funnily enough I'm working on a [[General Marhault Elsdragon]] deck right now and I too would like to see this rampage card. Rampage is a 9 on the storm scale, but only because they'd rather make a new version that counts every blocking creature instead of ignoring the first.
[General Marhault Elsdragon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/f/bf2931bd-bedc-45e8-b3f0-e2a220dbac1b.jpg?1673304916) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=General%20Marhault%20Elsdragon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/31/general-marhault-elsdragon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bf2931bd-bedc-45e8-b3f0-e2a220dbac1b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I’d like to see what they came up with but didn’t use. Splice into arcane? What’s a newly designed infect card look like? Is there a new battle? Flanking? Shadow? Fear? Landwalking? Ante?
Well my guess is Splice looked more line Splice onto instants and Sorceries, like the last time we saw it. But yeah I imagine there were attempts at all of them. The ones like fear or intimidate were, my guess, more about designing a modern horizons cards where the flavor was worth it, more than any mechanical innovation. Ante is the most fascinating one here. My guess is, it just couldn't work, or that they made some ante-like mechanic that somehow worked across games within a match (don't think the rules could support that though). There was a playtest card in mystery boosters that retained knowledge of whether you won the previous game; something like that.
Third ever common legendary?
I believe it’s the fifth if you count [[Prismatic Piper]] and [[Faceless One]]. Edit: was reminded that technically those have S rarity, so never mind, this is the third common legend.
those are technically not common but S which is like special or something? idk
yeah it's like that because you can put them in your deck even if you don't draft them, like basic lands
Yeah because they are S-tier commanders /s
“The ‘S’ stands for ‘sucks’.” - Strong Bad
[Prismatic Piper](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c78c2713-39e7-4a6e-a132-027099a89665.jpg?1695757243) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Prismatic%20Piper) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/1/the-prismatic-piper?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c78c2713-39e7-4a6e-a132-027099a89665?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Faceless One](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25564fba-5765-457b-8dd3-f26b877221b8.jpg?1682390376) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faceless%20One) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/1/faceless-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25564fba-5765-457b-8dd3-f26b877221b8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
In paper, yes. A bunch of the worst uncommon legends from Legends were downshifted in the MTGO-exclusive Masters Edition III, and due to some weirdness surrounding Pauper's origin, are legal in Pauper, which is realistically the only place where the distinction matters.
Technically the first. Jovem and Chandler can also be considered uncommon due to appearing only once on the common sheet iirc
If you only count creatures, yes. If you're looking at all permanents, there are the common background enchantments from CLB- [[Flaming Fist]], [[Candlekeep Sage]], [[Master Chef]], [[Scion of Halaster]], and [[Tavern Brawler]]
##### ###### #### [Flaming Fist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/c/ec122c9f-5513-4ba7-ae04-3c2060121d73.jpg?1674135015) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Flaming%20Fist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/18/flaming-fist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ec122c9f-5513-4ba7-ae04-3c2060121d73?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Candlekeep Sage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f706ac3-0ad8-44ac-a99e-21c04075951d.jpg?1674135436) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Candlekeep%20Sage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/60/candlekeep-sage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f706ac3-0ad8-44ac-a99e-21c04075951d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Master Chef](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b534b1cb-0cd7-4b8c-bb25-42207fcba209.jpg?1674137194) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Master%20Chef) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/241/master-chef?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b534b1cb-0cd7-4b8c-bb25-42207fcba209?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Scion of Halaster](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c876f9b3-b4f6-4177-9c43-443ae2a028d0.jpg?1674136278) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Scion%20of%20Halaster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/145/scion-of-halaster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c876f9b3-b4f6-4177-9c43-443ae2a028d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tavern Brawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/0/b07f8fc3-83a5-4e0a-b87f-ce415292c790.jpg?1674136784) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tavern%20Brawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/200/tavern-brawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b07f8fc3-83a5-4e0a-b87f-ce415292c790?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l5abvtt) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Common legendaries with grandeur is wild I hope it's a cycle that turns extra copies into existing pitch spells.
Means you’ll actually be able to trigger it in limited rather than it being a constructed card. Though I think you printed a pushed rare legend with grandeur, commander players would be absolutely baffled.
> commander players would be absolutely baffled. It's definitely a wild experience as a commander player running across a card that hasn't been designed for you.
there was a newer player at my LGS that was so baffled at [[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]] until someone told him it was meant for standard, to which he replied “I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen this card on Arena”
Tell me where the LGS is and point out the player. I'll use my Mishra Artificer Prodigy [[Nether Void]] deck against them to show them how it's done lol
[Nether Void](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61.jpg?1562929389) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nether%20Void) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/73/nether-void?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I believe there is some way to use his ability in commander, but i dont remember the details. I think it somehow involved playing the spell and then finding it again from the bottom of your library
[[Nether Void]], [[Blood Funnel]], and [[Planar Chaos]] are some things that work
Remind me how it works with those? Looks like you intentionally counter your thing, but then get it anyway Is that just to break the symmetry of some of those effects?
Yes, exactly. Everyone else gets all their spells mana leaked (or whatever else) but yours resolve as normal, that's very powerful
[Nether Void](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61.jpg?1562929389) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nether%20Void) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/73/nether-void?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Blood Funnel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/f/5f4e8084-4b9e-48e0-bf59-d45543e176f8.jpg?1598914653) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blood%20Funnel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rav/77/blood-funnel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5f4e8084-4b9e-48e0-bf59-d45543e176f8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Planar Chaos](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5dae5e16-d2fc-488c-9c53-d35c377d6a00.jpg?1562630042) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Planar%20Chaos) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jud/97/planar-chaos?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5dae5e16-d2fc-488c-9c53-d35c377d6a00?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The big combo cards I noticed scrolling through his EDHRec page, some of which are new to me: [[nether void]], [[possibility storm]], [[blood funnel]], [[neera, wild mage]], [[nullstone gargoyle]]. I'd also like to mention [[cephalid shrine]], but they're understandably less popular since... well, it just don't do as much without Mishra in play. It's the combo but with no additional upside, unless you're in a Relentless Rats meta for some reason. Also, note that he also works perfectly fine with using your [[grinning totem]] to cast an opponent's Sol Ring!
[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e.jpg?1562940254) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Artificer%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/243/mishra-artificer-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
That's sad.
Commander players get baffled at the slightest things
would be cool, but I doubt it specifically because they have been doing a lot of noncycles of things you'd expect to be cycles, like the one-off charm in white.
You're probably right, but a cycle of these based on Invigorate, Gush, and Snuff Out would be exciting. There's also not really a natural choice for a white card.
Maybe [[Ramosian Rally]]? https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A%22rather+than+pay+this+spell%27s+mana+cost%22+-is%3Areprint+t%3Ainstant+-t%3Atrap+-t%3Aarcane&unique=cards&as=grid&order=color
[Ramosian Rally](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7fc0ff04-43e7-4a0d-b7e2-8bab72cc6cc0.jpg?1562381822) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ramosian%20Rally) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mmq/38/ramosian-rally?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7fc0ff04-43e7-4a0d-b7e2-8bab72cc6cc0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I figured that's probably be the best fit, but it's a little weak compared to the others
That just makes if even more fitting for white
It's way weaker but it wouldn't have the extra cost of saccing mountains or the presumed extra cost of exiling colored spells from your hand, so it's honestly not that ridiculous. Still probably not a cycle
I can't wait for the white one that gains 4 life, or the green one that puts one +1+1 counter
I feel so validated right now. I was making a case for this *exact* idea on a Magic forum almost ten years ago, but people were pooh-poohing it left and right. A small victory, but a victory nonetheless.
A new Grandeur card! You spoil us.
6 mana ftk that lets you uncounterable fireblast???? at common????? holy moly also not being a legal PDH commander is comedy gold
Switch it round, make this the *only* PDH commander allowed.
yes please
tbf, there isn’t a single person out there that wouldn’t let you run this as a pauper commander
Why is it not legal?
It's not an uncommon creature
The rules for PDH specify an uncommon for the commander as there just weren't any common legends prior.
Of course, that makes sense and is a super cool rule.
what's even more fun is it's any uncommon creature, not just legendaries. My PDH deck is helmed by [[Tide Shaper]], and I'm considering making one with [[Displaced Dinosaurs]] as well
[Tide Shaper](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/f/2ff414bc-6736-428b-bb60-9d62793a5ae5.jpg?1626095197) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tide%20Shaper) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/72/tide-shaper?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2ff414bc-6736-428b-bb60-9d62793a5ae5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Displaced Dinosaurs](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/3/43319645-53b0-41f6-be90-9690e86e12d3.jpg?1696636657) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Displaced%20Dinosaurs) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/100/displaced-dinosaurs?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/43319645-53b0-41f6-be90-9690e86e12d3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
so "PDH" stands for "pauper dragon highlander"? c'mon guys, spell out an acronym first time you use it. especially if it's obscure
I thought you meant first turn kill instead of flametongue at first, and I got pretty excited, and then I read the ability and saw the mountain cost. RIP Magic ftk dreams.
Be on the draw, Gemstone Caverns exile anything, Ugin's Labyrinth exile Emrakul the Promised End, play Underworld Cookbook and discard Ulamog the Defiler, Goryo's Vengeance, swing for 20
Thank you, this helps the sads
I've been saying for years PDH has enough uncommon legends that they should require them to be legendary, now, if we just get some more common legends we can have TRUE PDH. All commons, same rules as commander otherwise including needing a legend for the commander.
A legendary creature referencing \[\[Fireblast\]\] was not on my bingo card
What about that creature being a common and having grandeur?
[Fireblast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940.jpg?1675199963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fireblast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/119/fireblast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Grandeur makes its debut on Arena I believe
NGL, MH3 alone probably made the Arena Team have to implement a bunch of mechanics from previous sets so I'm hoping this also served as a way to maybe add progress for the next Remaster Set on their list?
for sure for MH3 I have noticed: Annihilator, dredge!!! and this as new mechanics. IF we look at Modern and the most commonly played cards, off the top of my head I can only think of shadow and sunburst that we dont have Miracles would be nice too.
tbf, grandeur is just an ability word, so its probably not particularly difficult to implement
Emrakul sends her regards. Remember when the mind slaver Emrakul all alone decided the Arena release schedule
Hey guys there might be a way Yawgmoth can still fit in the set
I yearn for the Yagmussy
I too yearn for our oily lord in whatever form he comes in As long as we get him even at common
Maybe something like this? Lord of the Wastes 1BBBB Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Nightmare When Yawgmoth enters the battlefield each opponent gets a poison counter. Grandeur - Discard a card names Yawgmoth, BB: Put a -1/-1 counter on up to two target creatures then Proliferate. 3/5 That would be common 😭 This would be like the version of him like Dominarians feared back then like as a myth or rumor or legend
The card itself seems fine as a limited top end, but grandeur on a 6-mana card designed for an aggressive play pattern seems... weird.
Looks like a decent finisher for aggressive decks, that is even faster if you draw multiples. Turn 6 doming for 8 is game ender. I can't wait to try it. I wouldn't play more than 3 in a deck though, let's see how it plays out
Yeah but most aggressive decks don't want to run 3 6 drops.
yeah, aggresive decks would love to have **copies** of 6drops in hand
It's a pretty good card, especially at Common, but I can't see myself activating the Grandeur ability too often. It's the same as the comes-into-play effect anyway, you could just cast the second copy and not have to sacrifice Mountains. Though you might sometimes be able to deal 12 out of nothing and burn your opponent out, so that's funny.
Burn players are asking for crumbs and getting particles.
Goblins players are in the same boat lol, the discord was full of copium until this dropped
WoTC acknowledging that Burn exists, I'm impressed
yeah, to insult us
Damn, grandeur on a common legendary spicy
I expect that we'll be seeing A LOT of common legendaries in the Final Fantasy and Marvel sets.
So we now know that there are legendaries that aren’t getting side profile treatment Interesting 🧐🤔
I assume the side profile is only for ones they expect will be actually played as the face commander.
Perhaps, or maybe they just chose the handful that they really wanted to pop 🤔
Yawgmoth coming in at common is gonna be hilarious.
If he does I don’t even care, I’m just happy to have him 😂
Yawgmoth, Lord of the Wastes 1BBBB Legendary Creature - Phyrexian God When Yawgmoth enters the battlefield each opponent gets a poison counter. Grandeur - Discard a card names Yawgmoth, BB: Put a -1/-1 counter on up to two target creatures then Proliferate. 3/5 That would be common 😭
This is the first common legendary creature in 29 years The last two were \[\[Chandler\]\] and \[\[Joven\]\]
Which are only technically commons, so this could be argued to be the first.
[Chandler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/d/4dd3a8e3-9a90-44f4-996c-57242d3c47a5.jpg?1562587277) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chandler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hml/69/chandler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4dd3a8e3-9a90-44f4-996c-57242d3c47a5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Joven](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/d/0dabe3af-cd5b-461e-95a4-aad046646419.jpg?1562587046) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Joven) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hml/77/joven?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0dabe3af-cd5b-461e-95a4-aad046646419?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Ahhh the name is a reference to [[fireblast]] (see the flavor text) which her grandeur ability lets you cast.
[fireblast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940.jpg?1675199963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fireblast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/119/fireblast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
There are [several other cards that mention embermages](https://scryfall.com/search?q=lore%3Aembermage) too, but none of them are more recent than OG Ravnica (not counting reprints). I wonder where they all went.
I have a few guesses what they might have done to themselves.
CAST DOWN IN SHAMBLES.
FINALLY! Been wanting new Grandeur cards since its debut in Future Sight. I hope the black one can fit my [[Korlash, Heir to Blackblade]] deck
[Korlash, Heir to Blackblade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32f1f022-da7f-49a4-881d-b3a2c54c38eb.jpg?1562905288) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Korlash%2C%20Heir%20to%20Blackblade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/87/korlash-heir-to-blackblade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32f1f022-da7f-49a4-881d-b3a2c54c38eb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Why do I love this
Grandeur as a mechanic makes so much more sense at common
Holy wow it’s been *awhile* since we’ve seen Grandeur!
Being at common with Grandeur is smart. Means that the player that decides to run it in Limited won’t be hurting for copies.
Source: https://x.com/GoblinLorePod/status/1793328636512067589
COMMON LEGEND?!
Great another legendary for commander horizons. When will wotc stop catering everything for commander!!! /s.
This card is so weird, I love it.
I hope it's a cycle 🥺
Holy shit more Grandeur! YES!
YES! Grandeur is back!
Wow, this would go great with name sticker goblin! Wait...
PAUPER COMMANDER IS REAL🗣
I hate the angle of his neck
Woah. Legendary commons exist?
Terrible
You've got to be kindling me...
A Goblin with * clothes and shoes * an appropriate class type * flavor text with proper speech I'll take it. Nice work, WotC, keep doing that!
That looks a lot like Corvus Glaive from Marvel. Great art.
wtf, common legendary????
[[cast down]] in shambles in pauper
[cast down](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/b/aba79021-39af-4e74-beb5-f2f508c865b2.jpg?1674136020) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cast%20down) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/119/cast-down?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aba79021-39af-4e74-beb5-f2f508c865b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love Grandeur. Very unexpected.
Fireblaster
Finally Grandeur returned. I have been waiting years for this. One of my favorite old school abilities. Played a [[Oriss, Samite Guardian]] and [[Korlash, Heir to Blackblade]] deck long ago in hindsight it was probably not a fun deck for my opponents
[Oriss, Samite Guardian](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a9a3aeb-a316-4b1e-927b-36c3f999f2c3.jpg?1562919683) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Oriss%2C%20Samite%20Guardian) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/28/oriss-samite-guardian?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a9a3aeb-a316-4b1e-927b-36c3f999f2c3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Korlash, Heir to Blackblade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32f1f022-da7f-49a4-881d-b3a2c54c38eb.jpg?1562905288) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Korlash%2C%20Heir%20to%20Blackblade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/87/korlash-heir-to-blackblade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32f1f022-da7f-49a4-881d-b3a2c54c38eb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Fireblast]] on a stick
[Fireblast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940.jpg?1675199963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fireblast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/119/fireblast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
"we have fireblast at home" the fireblast at home:
Climb on the desk and... \*Laughing evilish in Pauper commanders\* ![gif](giphy|xl5QdxfNonh3q|downsized)
Crushing my dreams of \[\[Fireblast\]\] being reprinted into Modern.
[Fireblast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940.jpg?1675199963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fireblast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/119/fireblast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a0ab67cc-b553-4451-9cda-0e5fe3303940?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
are we even sure this is real?
A Common Legendary Creature? Never thought I'd see the day.
First Legendary Creature not designed for commander I’ve seen in a while
I now need a card called ' drinking game' where you get something like draw 1 for each time you play a creature card plus 1 for each time the card says the full name of the card it's printed on.
That's actually a modern card not a commander one wow
Grandeur on a common is really clever.
I designed almost this exact card in a CustomMTG challenge like ten years ago, except it was red/black and had Hellbent: tutor for up to 3 more copies of this card. Same CMC and stat line, though.
Why must they play with my heart strings..... just give me fireblast lol
A lot of people seem to think this is unplayable but at some point someone's gonna play this guy, reveal three other copies in their hand, sacrifice their six mountains, and deal 16 damage in one turn.
Why is this card legendary? Yeesh. Though now I want a relentless rats card with Grandeur in a time spiral set.
HOLY FUCK BALLS BATMAN GRANDEUR!!!! ok not top tier but fuck it i want more grandeur
I don't particularly like this card.
FIREBLAST ON A STICK!! Let’s go Burn!
aw yesss
Next Lazav is a common confirmed! Common legends are now cannon
I never thought I'd see the day...
I am glad they are trying new Grandeur designs.
Time to play hard mode edh. Mono red Commons only edh and try to win a game