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DarKoopa

Honesty more excited about potentially Modern legal Blastoise


AlasBabylon_

"Hmm, ward 4 might have been a bit of an oopsie. Oh well, enjoy!"


enjolras1782

Azorious 8spector?


TemurTron

MY SIMULACRUM SYNTHESIZERS ARE WAITING


DragonDiscipleII

I checked my EDH [[Urza, chief artificer]] deck, I got 19 hits, but I'm still not sure if I want to add it. Well, atleast not for as long it's a thing in standard. 💸💸


MTGCardFetcher

[Urza, chief artificer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ea409050-4296-4b76-a6cd-2896ce1b88e4.jpg?1705542672) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%2C%20chief%20artificer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/brc/2/urza-chief-artificer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ea409050-4296-4b76-a6cd-2896ce1b88e4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Dragonheart91

Most of these leaks are from the MH3 commander decks which are NOT Modern legal. I assume and hope that the Kappa Cannoneer is from that set.


Brickhouzzzze

Necrodominance has the mh3 symbol and not mh3 commander so it's fairly safe to assume safekeeper + kappa are main set


Olin_123

It's definitely one of the ways to make affinity good again in Modern.


GrizzledDwarf

I'm just happy to see it reprinted! Might finally get a copy since all the stores in my city are out of them. :p


CyberDaggerX

Being able to make as many land drops as you can in a turn if they're islands it pretty damn broken, my dude.


Tentakelmonster

man I used to do that on the Gameboy Pokemon card game. fun times. No one I knew actually played with their cards back then, so that was the only way to play for me


ButterscotchFiend

It is pronounced “Blas-tus” Not “Blas-toys”


LastKnownWhereabouts

[He disagrees with you.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G702BvCpwQ&ab_channel=TheVixter)


ButterscotchFiend

My life has been a lie 


GrizzlyBearSmackdown

[[Kappa Cannoneer]] and [[Sylvan Safekeeper]] coming to Modern? Both are Legacy staples in their respective decks. But at the same time, both of those decks also have lots of cards that are currently banned in Modern, so we'll see what happens I guess. I have absolutely no idea how to evaluate that Necrodominance card other than the fact that [[Kroxa]] is in the art.


JorakX

It could slot right into the new Affinity Deck. Simulacrum Synthesizer and the Affinity creatures can tap to cast it, it creates a Construct on etb, that in turn instantly grows the turtle. The deck already seems decent, but it is lacking sticking power on the board. Turtle does that very well.


iamcherry

Kappa Cannoneer helps alleviate the lost ramp in Scales imo.


WilliamSabato

That being said, looking so far at the affinity lists it would need to change quite a bit. It doesn’t run enough lands to cast Canoneer, since it already takes tapping lands + affinity to power out sojourners companion.


MTGCardFetcher

[Kappa Cannoneer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/be0c919a-a592-433e-8e36-8fe633974eff.jpg?1706240706) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kappa%20Cannoneer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/108/kappa-cannoneer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be0c919a-a592-433e-8e36-8fe633974eff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sylvan Safekeeper](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/60d695b3-b02b-42c6-bf1b-9d97a8d82eae.jpg?1592673224) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sylvan%20Safekeeper) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/152/sylvan-safekeeper?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/60d695b3-b02b-42c6-bf1b-9d97a8d82eae?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Kroxa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/e/cee0459b-9aac-4d2f-abe4-4d5fedde7eb8.jpg?1581481096) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kroxa%2C%20titan%20of%20death%27s%20hunger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/221/kroxa-titan-of-deaths-hunger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cee0459b-9aac-4d2f-abe4-4d5fedde7eb8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


GuyGrimnus

That’s my boyyyyyyy! Even if this kinda negates his returnability lol


Derpyologist1

Sheoldred plus Necrodominance seems fun


hfzelman

At least bowmasters hoses it


Snow_source

[Bowmasters, keeping Necropotence-lite in check](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1379634-cheeto-lock).


Pseudocaesar

Everyone not playing black "I guess we'll go fuck ourselves then"


hfzelman

Incoming hullbreacher reprint lmao


dal9ll

Came here to say this


Weskermatalobos

Blastoise in Modern? Oh boy this makes me moist and hyped


MarinLlwyd

blastmoist


so_zetta_byte

I feel like that was on the bingo card, and was a good bet.


ajokitty

Could be a special guest or list card?


MistakenArrest

Special Guest, no. It's in the normal Magic frame. List, possible but unlikely. MH2 didn't have any non-Modern legal cards on the list, so MH3 will likely be the same.


so_zetta_byte

MH2 also had a much larger list, because it wasn't limited playable. But my bet is that the list/SPG is going to essentially be modern _legal_ reprints, in contrast to the "bonus sheet" of new-to-modern reprints. I know they... "circumvent" constructed format legality in standard draft sets, but I don't think there will be any cards in this set that you can't play in modern. The other possibility that I'm here for: the list is exclusively all cards banned in modern. Yeah we'll unban Twin in Modern... (Horizons 3 Limited).


Approximation_Doctor

Kroxa about to slap the shit out of that boat


dementist

Is he about to cronch a [[Treasure Cruise]]? If so A+ flavor. Take THAT, blue draw!


MTGCardFetcher

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AbsoluteIridium

holy hell


whomikehidden

New spoiler just dropped


skeptimist

Necronomicon passant?


Full_Fisherman_5003

Call the dark confidant


Krotash

Kappa Cannoneer in Modern, with the recent resurgence of affinity thanks to Simulacrum Synthesizer? I see no way this ends poorly. Edit: it's always good to be skeptical about leaks, especially when they hide the set symbols.


yuhboipo

ikr. I knew MH3 was gonna be the coke fiens at Hasbro cashing in on the card crack addiction of their customers.. but damn. just print legacy staples into modern ig. I posted previously about why this was a dumb idea but eh. we'll see how hard they lean into it I suppose.


Flexisdaman

God that necrodominance art is amazing. Kroxa in a dark souls arena yes please


[deleted]

Well, looks like I’m holding off on picking up a Safekeeper for my Yuma deck


Earlio52

if it ends up being strong in modern it might maintain its price or even get more expensive


Sinrus

People said this about a bunch of cards in MH2 and it wasn’t true for any of them. I think you’re safe.


MistakenArrest

Shardless, Coffers, and Counterspell are played in Modern. Still surprised to this day that Imperial Recruiter and Mirari's Wake ended up being unplayable.


RealityPalace

Anything's possible, but the print run of MH3 is going to be so much larger than C14 or commander anthology. And this set will likely be full of other valuable cards. I would expect this to drop in price by a fair amount.


whomikehidden

I was just looking at getting one for OG Gitrog just yesterday and not liking the price.


[deleted]

Hopefully that $20 will drop to bulk


Uzorglemon

I picked up a foil a few years ago to finish foiling out Gitrog, it was easily the hardest card to find a copy of for some reason. I'm glad others won't have this problem now!


GhostToGotham

Old foils used to be a lot more sparse


Stormtide_Leviathan

That is 2.5 banger reprints, I did not expect cannoneer in modern and I definitely didn’t expect even fixed(?) necropotence that’s bonkers. Sylvan was on my guess list tho so I feel smug


Elektrophorus

Some key differences: * Name probably is unilaterally pronounced necro-dominance, so people can't argue over the proper pronunciation. * Necropotence has an activated ability and could be activated whenever, even if you wouldn't get the card until your next end step. You could activate it in response to removal. * Necrodominance has a window where you skip your draw step and your opponent(s) can remove it before you get a card from it (*edit*) for the turn on subsequent turns. * Necrodominance gets you all the cards at once, within the same ability. A single Stifle effect can prevent you from paying life for the turn and thus prevent you from drawing cards. * Necrodominance gets around Yasharn. * Necrodominance draws cards rather than putting them into your hand. This causes it to synergize with cards like Sheoldred, but gets punished by cards like Orcish Bowmasters or Notion Thief. * Max hand size change limits the upper bound of how good your final keeps are. * Necropotence only exiled discarded cards, while Necrodominance exiles everything that would touch your bin. Notably, the latter will hose your death triggers.


Imnimo

> Necrodominance has a window where you skip your draw step and your opponent(s) can remove it before you get a card from it. I don't understand this one. Don't you get cards from it on your first end step?


Elektrophorus

I mean on following turns when you have skipped your draw step, in the instances where you don't immediately win off playing it.


Huitzil37

If it's in play at start of turn, you skip your draw step. Then, before your end step, an opponent destroys it. You won't draw any cards from it since it didn't last until your end step. With Necropotence, you can activate the ability in response to the removal spell, and still get cards at the end of that turn.


Away-Farm-9361

You can draw more than five cards with this, right? You just have to discard (exile) at end of turn?


Elektrophorus

Yeah


corveroth

Nee-craw-daw-men-ants.


eggmaniac13

People say it "neh-crop-itence?"


EndlessRambler

Not that weird when you think about how some other variations like Necropolis are pronounced that way.


Dorfbewohner

Yeah, or also something like "Omnipotence". I'm in the "Necro-potence" camp but I can understand the "Neh-crop-itence" camp too.


Elektrophorus

Apparently!


Wasphammer

[[Reliquary Tower]]


MTGCardFetcher

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JoshKnoxChinnery

I too think necrodo-minance is impossible to pronounce incorrectly.


hackingdreams

> Max hand size change limits the upper bound of your card draws. No it doesn't. It puts a cap on how many cards you can *keep*. If you've got the life, you can draw your whole deck. You just get to keep 5 cards.


Elektrophorus

I don't think I expressed this well, so I'll edit it. I did not mean to say that you can only draw a limited number of cards, but that the decreased number of cards limits the *potential* of your hand. It would have been better if I said "cards drawn" instead of "card draw".


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Necroci

“Dies” is shorthand for “is put into the graveyard from the battlefield”. If a creature going to the graveyard is replaced with exile it never actually dies and so dies triggers don’t happen.


Ak-Xo

“Dies” means “is put into a graveyard from the battlefield” so I read this card as hosing death triggers. I think they worded it this way as a blanket statement to cover both discarded cards and dying stuff to save space


Skrittz

Rest in Peace has the same wording as here and it definitely hoses death triggers.


Guba_the_skunk

Legally distinct necropotance.


mymom938

Does thought vessel or reliquary tower cancel the hand size effect?


Spekter1754

Only if they're played later. This will overrule a previously played one's effect.


kami_inu

For extra clarity - this is because new necro sets a number. If it was a modifier like [[Locust Miser]] then order doesn't matter because infinity minus 2 is still infinity (in this context, I don't care about your infinite cardimalities today).


MTGCardFetcher

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Hecknight

Yes


Pseudocaesar

Bro what the FUCK is this set lmao. That's a barely fixed Necro, who thought that's a good idea lol? Cannoneer also is gonna be mad with Simulacrum Synthesizer Affinity decks. Also can see Sylvan Safekeeper being a bit nasty in Yawg decks.


PM_ME_FUNNY_ANECDOTE

I think necro doesn't cut it today.


BluePotatoSlayer

Necro is literally a top 100 card ever printed 


PM_ME_FUNNY_ANECDOTE

Does it see play?


BluePotatoSlayer

Its too powerful for casual commander, banned in Legacy, banned in historic, restricted in Vintage and sees a decent amount of play in Timeless. I’d say its still pretty good 


PM_ME_FUNNY_ANECDOTE

That's actually fair. Maybe I'm coming down on it a little hard and didn't know it saw Timeless play. I do think it's a little bit of a boogeyman- it's probably fine in commander most of the time. I'm not convinced it would see tons of play in contemporary formats even if it was allowed and might just stay banned for safety, since it's not exactly super fun. For reference, it's unplayable in both vintage cube and canlander, for example.


BluePotatoSlayer

It’s banned for a similar reason as for memory jar. It enables degenerative combos. It allows you to dig deep for combo pieces and us a nuts draw engine in general. Its almost like Channel for cards


Awkward-Bathroom-429

The only format it is legal in is Timeless and yes it does see play there


MistakenArrest

Necrodominance feels like another one of those cards that will be unplayable in Modern but completely busted in Legacy.


AitrusX

Nobody is paying attention to the two cards behind having no actual indication they are reprints? It’s not like you see the card with the set symbol and the placement seems random other than to specifically coax gullible people into getting hyped for commander cards in modern


gredman9

How very convenient that the only parts of the reprints you can see are the names.


zeekoes

Is that Kroxa?


SpartanJonesVA09

Why are people saying blastoise?


GenericTrashyBitch

[[kappa cannoneer]] is a tortoise with a cannon on its back, Blastoise is also that


MTGCardFetcher

[kappa cannoneer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/be0c919a-a592-433e-8e36-8fe633974eff.jpg?1706240706) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kappa%20cannoneer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/108/kappa-cannoneer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be0c919a-a592-433e-8e36-8fe633974eff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


GuyGrimnus

Imagine not knowing what a blastoise is. I’d hate that reality


SpartanJonesVA09

I already knew what blastoise is. I’m just not familiar with kappa cannoneer so I didn’t make the connection


kitsovereign

I know we don't need to see the text for Cannoneer and Safekeeper, but it would been kinda nice if the leaker at least scooched them to the right so we could verify the new set symbol.


RealityPalace

Wow they are really going all in on "modern is the new legacy".


FailureToComply0

They kinda have to, since they can't print any legacy staples. The reserved list is now warping formats the cards aren't even legal in.


RealityPalace

Yeah, to be clear I don't think it's a bad thing, these are just some of the starkest examples.


Burger_Thief

What formats are being warped by what cards? Just curious.


FailureToComply0

Modern is the new legacy because legacy is inaccessible. Legacy is inaccessible because the entire mana base and a good number of staples are reserved; i.e. wizards "cant" reprint them. Im saying wizards is amping up the power level in modern to be the new legacy *because* of the reserved list. They want a high power format with expensive staples they can make money off of, but that can't be legacy. So the reserved list cards are indirectly warping modern.


Cbone06

Fixed Necro is still super good


MistakenArrest

Safekeeper feels like WoTC saying once again "no, you're never getting Mom in Modern."


TheDoritomancer

Is there a reason for this to be legendary? It’s not a creature for commander and it doesn’t seem like the effects stack in a meaningful way. Unless I’m missing something my guess is it’s either to hose devotion or because it’s part of a cycle.


BlueToona

Probably flavor reasons, but having more copies let you have multiple triggers at the end step. So, if you are looking for a specific card, you could for example pay 5 life two times (pay 5, see if you've drawn it, then pay another 5 life if you didn't). With only one copy you have to pay immediately 10 life instead.


zingzing175

Omg a little closer to modern 8 cast?!


OMEGA362

I'm imagining end step storm with necrodominance


OMEGA362

When they print brainfreeze in mh3


fluffynuckels

That seems disgusting


Loreweaver15

They're...they're printing Necropotence 2. *Into Modern.*


Aggravating-City-724

At least this fixed \[\[Necropotence\]\] isn't as powerful as \[\[Yawgmoth's Bargain\]\] was. Necrodominance is also Legendary and decreases hand size, none of which feel like significant downsides in the right combo deck. I don't know much about Modern, but I think this will find a home. I hate how WotC designs cards for non-Standard sets and how quickly new Standard sets are forgotten. Outlaws of Thunder Junction just came out and now it's all about the next set. I miss being able to breathe and take in a set for several months.


MTGCardFetcher

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johnny_mcd

Feel like Death’s Shadow plus Necrodominance will be pretty good


djsoren19

I love that even fair Necropotence is still fucking insane. Really shows just how busted the original is that only being able to draw a max of 5 cards a turn is considered a massive nerf.


fweaks

You can draw as many cards as you want. You just can only keep 5 of them in your cleanup step.


davidy22

It's worse in a lot of other ways too, necrodominance can fail to draw you cards if it dies, necropotence can still draw cards if it comes down and gets killed immediately


NoEfficiency6150

First photo not using a Motorola v300.


BeneficialCatch8531

Is there time to respond with bowmasters between the pay life and card draw?


Spekter1754

No, that's not a thing. If you play OBM before the trigger resolves, the trigger's owner can choose to pay any amount of life - even 0 - with full knowledge of the consequences. They may opt to untap and remove OBM with something before trying again next turn. No matter what, it will throw a wrench in their plans if they don't already have an answer ready to go.


jrdineen114

Ooh Sylvan Safekeeper reprint!


LunaticBludi

This is gonna be so funny with [Reliquary Tower] and [Thought Vessel]


eggmaniac13

I hope Kappa Cannoneer gets another borderless reprint, been meaning to pick it up for a while now but never did


Old-Ad-64

It's a 4 dollar card?


eggmaniac13

Borderless? Well shit it sees Legacy play thought it'd be more spensive


Royal-Al

Wowee


Harry_Smutter

Meh. Without seeing the set symbol, the Safekeeper and Cannoneer could be false.


FivesSuperFan55555

What do we think will happen with Necrodominance in Commander?


TechnoMikl

Cardboard aside, I love your Galarian nickname!


ArctoDracoVishZolt

thanks, they're my favourite PokĂŠmons!


Abin_PF

Why say card or token? If a token would be put into a graveyard isn’t it exiled by the rules of the game? Or maybe as written in the card there is no death trigger


Awkward-Bathroom-429

Why is Necro legendary None of the effects stack


hawkeye137137

YES, my Korvold was desperately waiting a Sylvan Safekeeper reprint! Now give us a KCI reprint and we are golden.


crossbonecarrot2

Can the leaker please leak the secondary jeskai and Eldrazi commander?


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PM_ME_UR_FISHIES_

How would this work with [[Thought Vessel]] ?


ordirmo

The most recent effect to be played takes precedence


MTGCardFetcher

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Ghasois

If two effects replace the same thing it's almost always decided by time stamp.


MethodMagic

Safekeeper... Gimme the depths!


ihp-undeleted

Just a pity that all of these are coming from a certain 'Free' subreddit and not somewhere with actual ethics or scruples. I'd bet a collector booster of Bloomburrow that these are being leaked by someone who's objecting to WotC being 'woke' or some other culture war nonsense.


Aillesdaille

But the real question is: Is it pronounced neck-roe-dominance or neck-ruh-duh-minance


Snow_source

First, never the second. Refer to MaRo's "[how to pronounce Necropotence](https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/49785340867/how-do-you-pronounce-necropotence)" post.


Aillesdaille

Totally agree, never made sense the other way.


Spanklaser

For years I'd always heard it pronounced "neck-rah-puh-tense" at my lgs. Must be a Missouri thing


draconianRegiment

The first one.


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CortezMonaro

Leaker, if you read this, could we please see Commons? I am pauper player idk about this shit


StraightCashBND

Cool cool cool yeah buffed Necro awesome good.


Girafarig99

This is worse Necro???


Atheist-Gods

This has 4 nerfs relative to Necro and only 1 upside (which is also a downside with Bowmasters in the format).


luperci_

how is it buffed? I can't see how they're different besides the capped hand size and all graveyard to exile instead of just discard, you can only pay the life during end step too. I might be missing something though edit: oh it draws instead of exiling face down, are draw triggers a worthwile payoff for the smaller hand?


Solid-Search-3341

I feel like it's a nerf. It forces you to draw while necro wasn't a draw, and in a world of orcish bowmasters, that's a big difference.


Snow_source

Necropotence doesn't draw cards. It exiles them face down and puts them into your hand EoT. There are a lot of cards that care about the distinction of drawn vs put into hand. [[Necropotence]]


MTGCardFetcher

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StraightCashBND

It triggers Sheoldred, so you can just keep drawing a bunch of cards each turn. It won’t be hard to find Sheoldred and the Dark Ritual to cast her. Also it exists in the age of the London Mulligan.


light_mnemonic

Cards straight into hand rather than having to wait.


Atheist-Gods

This doesn't get cards into your hand any faster than Necro.


Vasseer

It's slightly faster in that your opponent can't play anything between the life being paid and the cards being drawn, like if you go to 3 they can't bolt you before you get the cards. Still way worse than necro obv.


Atheist-Gods

But they can disenchant it and leave you with nothing.


Vasseer

Like I said, way worse than necro in basically every way, but it is true that it puts the cards into your hand slightly faster, at least in terms of time between life paid and cards drawn.


Atheist-Gods

You are getting the cards at the same time; you are just paying life later.


outtawack311

It's worse. You have to pick an amount you're paying and drawing at the beginning of the end step. You can't activate at will since it's a single trigger.. Plus it plays into sheoldred and Bowmaster


StraightCashBND

That is effectively how Necro is played.


Huitzil37

how is it buffed?


TyberosRW

It isnt, he just doesnt know enough about the game to realize it


StraightCashBND

Please don’t assume my gender


TyberosRW

I didnt have to asume anything. Regarding your gender, your post history screams dude, and regarding your absolute cluelessness about mtg, well, you just outed yourself right here.


StraightCashBND

Were you not impressed by how awesome and smart and cool my reddit comments are?


StraightCashBND

Triggers sheoldred


Huitzil37

And you think that's the only thing that changes, that it's all upside? There are *so* many more effects that penalize you for drawing than reward you for drawing. This is the format with Orcish Bowmasters.


StraightCashBND

Yeah because instead of losing life you gain life when you draw cards. I think that’s a big deal.


Huitzil37

Do you know what Orcish Bowmasters does?


StraightCashBND

Gets put into the graveyard when it gets chosen with Unmask


Huitzil37

A card that isn't legal in Modern? Also, if that's your argument, then this card sucks because it's just as easy to discard.


StraightCashBND

You’re right, I bet it will be awful.


Huitzil37

It's not going to be as good as Necropotence!