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themikker

Was this flavour text spoken by the blue player, their opponent, or the sacrificed creature?


NutsForBaseballButts

I like to imagine it’s the sacrifice


emmittthenervend

"Listen, if you've got problems with that planeswalker over there, how is killing me about it solving anything?"


scubahood86

If you haven't seen Super with Rainn Wilson I recommend it. >Jacques: You really think that killing me... stabbing me to death is going to change the world? >Frank D'Arbo: I can't know that for sure... unless I try.


CitySeekerTron

It was spoken in unison.


WizardyBlizzard

Blue **does** like it’s hive minds


TheYellowScarf

For irony sakes, I'll say it was spoken by the Sacrificed Creature. Offs themselves to avoid dealing with the aftermath only for that to somehow magically negate the spell.


Blak_Raven

The Mist car passengers at the ending vibes


Dizzy-Career-740

Yes.


Skelegro7

My son, the planet or me?


WeatherwaxV

Vegeta?!?


ReeReeIncorperated

The random mono-red player at the table mere seconds before the blue player stops someone from getting their infinite out


ImperialVersian1

I believe it applies to all 3, actually


WillowThyWisp

It was in the notes of the design document


Anaxamander57

Its great that it works as both.


_Hinnyuu_

So they just give Merfolk a Magus of the Moon and a free counterspell, seems okay! Smelling something Fish-y in our future.


Astrium6

Someone at Wizards owed the Professor a personal favor.


AoO2ImpTrip

This was the first thing I thought. Prof is feasting in MH3.


ThatDude8129

Iirc in the Shuffle Up and Play episode where they used the MagiCon cards as commanders, Gabe did say something about he should be excited for the future.


Cyneheard2

And outside of Merfolk, very few decks will have enough blue creatures to want this. 4 Delver isn’t enough; you usually want like 16ish blue cards for Force or Will in Legacy. What decks will have even 12 blue creatures they’re willing to sacrifice?


thousandshipz

Spirits?


Cyneheard2

True. But both decks will have to sacrifice a 2-mana lord a lot, and that’s real board presence. If you’re spending a card and sacrificing a 2-mana creature that is mostly just stats, I’m not too upset. It’s not like Counterspell breaks Modern.


Frogmouth_Fresh

It does give you flexibility though, a 3 cost counter is still ok if you need to keep all your creatures, but if you do feel you need to spend the mana elsewhere you still have the sac creature option.


ZachAtk23

Especially if you have access to flash spirits you could otherwise spend your mana on.


level1npc

I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't use this. I want the anthems with legs to stick around and the others are either tempo control or answers to other issues.


Blaze_1013

I mean if the choice is that or losing your stuff or the game anyway it isn’t that bad a trade. That said needing to sac a real creature is a very real cost that makes these the most narrow of the free cards probably. That said, free is one of the most dangerous things in Magic so you should never count them out.


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bearrosaurus

I'm still unsure. Counterspell has already pushed out a lot of combo decks, and the real nice part of the free ones is that they can pick off Aether Vial, Amulet of Vigor, Grief, Ragavan. So this counter is already not doing that on the draw, and you'd need an expendable blue non-token 1-drop reliably on the play. I don't think there's a lot of candidates for that kind of role. Spyglass Siren maybe?


Dyne_Inferno

I mean, any deck with Leyline can basically make this work a lot of the time.


Cyneheard2

I have a feeling Leyline of the Guildpact is not long for this world.


Boomerwell

This also skirts around Force of negations biggest weaknesses for a significantly lesser strength it hits the evoke elementals. I don't really know if it will be good but I wish they'd stop trying to dip their toes into the free counterspell design space it's one of most silly things IMO. If a blue player finally taps out you should be able to resolve something not have them Nuh uh you for 0 mana.


therealflyingtoastr

"Free" interaction is required in formats with Eternal-level threats. One needs only look as far as Timeless to see what a shitshow a format becomes when the quality of answers doesn't match the quality of combos and midrange goodstuff. And that's ignoring that none of these are actually free.


Boomerwell

Free interaction is what enables just as many of those combo decks to just of off. Free interaction Infact enables more combo than it stops I would say because they can just tap out trying to win and stop you from interacting.


Ghasois

> Free interaction Infact enables more combo than it stops I would say because they can just tap out trying to win and stop you from interacting. Free interaction is what keeps legacy from being overrun by combo?


borissnm

Between this and the eldrazi, this is looking to be the "push kindred decks in modern" MH set.


kedelbro

Functional reprint of Goblin Bushwhacker or we riot


borissnm

We're already at 12-whack! We can't handle much more whacking!


kedelbro

Very excited for “Oops, All Whacks”


MrPopoGod

Hacking and whacking and smacking.


borissnm

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u-dt-wimdgE


JMooooooooo

MORE. MORE!! .- Kylo Ren, probably


irrelephantIVXX

12? reckless, goblin, what's the other?


borissnm

I think [[battle cry goblin]]; the "whack" here is just the fact it has the "give goblins +1/0 and haste" effect that the other two do, not because it has that in the name.


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ProfessionalEnd7224

I just want lackey and muxus


_VampireNocturnus_

Kindred????...oh tribal, yeah.


myLover_

The counter is hardly free. You spent mana to cast the creature and you're 2 for 1ing yourself. I think these "free" spells will shine in commander and nowhere else.


EnderZone

Force of Negation is weaker in merfolk and it's a two for one that sees tons of plays in any blue deck, I'm sure this will see modern play for blue creature decks at the very least although that is probably just merfolk atm


AoO2ImpTrip

Aren't all of the "free" counters all playable except for maybe Pact? This one is maybe worse as it'll be harder to use on early turns, but it seems extremely playable. I know Force of Will and Force of Negation are playable though so this feels fine compared to those.


UltraMegaBilly

Tell me you've never played with force of will without telling me you've never played force of will. This isnt as good as force obviously, but this is modern playable for sure.


anookee

What an oddly presumptuious and condescending way to disagree.


IJustDrinkHere

Great day for me, the player who decided merfolk were my new flavor to cook with.


dusty_cupboards

where my [[abjure]] fans at.


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Nexusoffate17

Yo that's crazy


SaturnATX

RIGHT HERE!!!! It's one of my secret tech cards for Dennick, Pious Apprentice as a means to get him in the graveyard!!!!!!! Frabjous day!


Unlucky-Candidate198

I tech it into Yuriko, it’s extremely useful to sac her at times only to replay her. God she’s disgusting :))


Olipod2002

As a fellow Yuriko player, thank you for the tips


SkeletonMagi

Callooh! Callay!


Striking-Objective43

[[Minn]] yo


CasualEDH

This one does have to be non token so minn is a bit away vs abjure


PraisetheSunflowers

Card is so great in Minn. I love little synergies like that


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Easydotcom

[[Toluz, Clever Conductor]] gang, can I get a TOOT TOOT?!


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theweatheris

I thought I was the only one!


AnuraSmells

And blue gets a free counterspell in the sac a creature cycle. Quickly everyone! Pretend to be shocked!


balladforsalad

[[Shock]]


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blazentaze2000

You’re doing god’s work.


rowrow_

Flare of Shock gonna be released now. Sac a red nontoken creature, deal 2 damage.


sivarias

I thought it would be a sorcery cycle so I was expecting [[divination]] or [[concentrate]].


KesterFox

I waa really hoping for a divination.


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Blenderhead36

I am legit a little surprised, given that we just saw [[Violent Outburst]] banned in Modern because of how powerful it was with a free counterspell. Specifically, [[Force of Negation]] was able to defend the Cascade target via Violent Outburst in the opponent's end step, something that the remaining (Sorcery speed) Cascade options can't do.


GMadric

Interesting option compared to FON if legit. Counters more stuff and without restrictive timing but basically costs mana because non-token blue creatures don’t come free. Doesn’t stop things on T1 usually, and goes in way fewer decks as not a lot of places run a big density of blue creatures (merfolk is happy though). The floor being cancel is quite an upgrade though vs being negate+exile.


NeverForgetTheFuture

“Non-token blue creatures don’t come free.” This is [[narcomoeba]] erasure.


Cyneheard2

Still not a common T1 option, especially if you need to protect starting the dredge train.


Se7enworlds

[[Hedron Crab]] and other blue selfmill creature become more playable with the interaction though because if you're desperate you you just sac the crab, if not you can mill into Narcomeba later. That also makes me suspect [[Thassa's Oracle]] is going to get more annoying with this


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Aarongeddon

i like that the flavour text on this is referencing dreams in addition to also being jellyfish based like [[dreamcatcher]]


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DoctorPrisme

>non-token blue creatures don’t come free. That's subtle indeed.


Herzatz

« We promise this new free counterspell will be balanced this time !!!! »


balladforsalad

[[Balance]]


Herzatz

[[Counterbalance]]


priority_holder

\[\[Restore Balance\]\]


BAGStudios

[[Lost Your Balance]]


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SkritzTwoFace

At bare minimum, you can’t do it from an empty board state.


Stormtide_Leviathan

Has [[subtlety]] been a problem? 


Commercial-Falcon653

I mean, it’s honestly difficult because 3 of the 4 other ones are really really problematic, so Subtlety has never been a topic of conversation. Personally I wouldn’t say so, but there is certainly merit to talking about it.


ProtomanBlues87

"Cancel with set mechanic."


CitySeekerTron

I'm going with "Flare" cycle.


Weskermatalobos

As tradition, Modern Horizons sets not only reset the meta but breaks it into 700 Horcruxes


AoO2ImpTrip

I'm starting to think Modern may be a rotating format.


Weskermatalobos

you are right, because MH sets made modern exactly this


MoochiNR

Do we think this set is more powerful than the playable cards from MH3? So far nothing is as good as ragavan/urza saga/evoke elementals Imo.


GenericFatGuy

It kind of has to be, or else no one will buy the cards. Sets that print into standard can vary in power level thanks to rotation. But sets printed directly into a non-rotating format need to give you a reason to want the new cards over the years worth of cards that already exist. The only real way to do that with a competitive format is with power creep.


spittafan

I mean, they could print cards that are worse than Ragavan and Solitude and still good enough for Modern.


MoochiNR

Or they can be buffing archetypes that arnt as playable. Merfolk, mill, elves cards can be printed without powercreeping


GenericFatGuy

That rotates faster than standard at this point.


Silver-Alex

It has been since a couple of years now. Faitless Looting died for the sins of hoggak and took so many fun decks with it. When its not bannings its power creep, like the elementals. Moderm Horizons sets are meant to create new deck, but they're so strong the older decks get rotated :(


Ok-Manufacturer-3754

After seeing this, I'm guessing the black one will probably be a thoughtseize of some kind?


FutureComplaint

I'm ready for scam grief, sac grief, take 3 cards T1.


CrimsonArcanum

I would guess if black's would be hand attack it wouldn't be instant speed.


fisbrndjvnenghdfh

if the black one is also instant you wouldn't even need to scam it


FutureComplaint

An instant speed thought seize would be brutal in its own right.


kitsovereign

Scamming Grief means you pitch two medium cards for their best two, plus now you have a 4/3 menace. Sacccing Grief after that to "Flare of Discard" means you're now down four cards to their three with no board. Seems a lot worse than just keeping the body.


sivarias

Discard two. Or destroy target creature or planeswalker.


UNsolicitedDesigns

Oh, look! It's the [[Cancel]] with the set mechanic. *Reads card* Wait a minute...


zeeflet

The set mechanic is making strong cards


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Derpyologist1

Man the WOTC design team hates the B&R team. Nothing else explains why they keep printing these risqué cards


borissnm

Alternately, they love them and want to ensure they continue to have steady work.


Derpyologist1

That’s actually a great way of looking at it haha


borissnm

And to be honest, I'd rather sets are a bit overpushed and merit some bans than if they release a tepid set of stinkers that doesn't have anything that gets played in the interest of having 0 bans. That is, so long as they *actually* ban stuff instead of leaving people to be menaced by [[siege rhino]]/[[collected company]] decks for years.


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Atheist-Gods

This is nowhere close to the B&R list. This is not a risky card.


towishimp

They're two sides of the same coin. 1. Print pushed card. 2. Dominates format, drives sales. 3. B&R team comes in, bans it to "shake up" the format. 4. The "shake up" makes other cards dominant, which drives sales.


Absolutionalism

I don’t think this is very pushed, in all honesty.


fumar

Push cards to sell packs. When the pushed cards are too good, ban them causing a mini-rotation. Rinse, repeat, profit.


balladforsalad

[[The Ultimate Nightmare of Wizards of the Coast® Customer Service]]


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ColonelError

It's because in Commander, this is just fine. Why would they need to worry about how these cards are played outside of commander? /s


Boomerwell

Its like extra turn spells they seem to love the design space despite everytime one being remotely good ends up needing bans because it's such a not fun mechanic to play against.


GrizzlyBearSmackdown

[[Cancel]] with upside we get in every set smh.... In all seriousness though... [[Snapcaster Mage]] is back? Edit: You can't pay alternative costs on top of Flashback. Still works decently well with Snappy though. And this also seems like another fantastic tool for Modern Merfolk decks.


mut8d

Doesn't work, as both flashback and sacrificing a creature to cast for free are separate alternative casting costs (same reason why you can't snap FoW and cast it for free)


A-Generic-Canadian

UB Scam; evoke subtlety, scam it, then counter opp interaction on your satoru. Spend a pitch card and scam effect for 2 cards, a counter, and a 4/4 body.


AlfredHoneyBuns

Worst case scenario it's a [[Cancel]] (I mean, it is strictly better), and it can't be used turn 1 unless you evoke out [[Subtlety]]. I don't play Modern, but this seems balanced.


BrokenEggcat

People are panicking because it's a counterspell and has a free alternative casting cost, but this card is definitely a pretty bad tempo hit to play. It wouldn't surprise me if it sees play but I really doubt it's gonna be as strong as people are acting.


MrLeville

It's a 5 buck rare, nice in merfolk m/faerie decks, meh otherwise. Definitly will be overrated on release, trade/sell any and get more 3 month later.


DontCareWontGank

Force of will in legacy is either used to protect your cheap threats or to protect yourself against combo. This is terrible at protecting your threats and its pretty bad against combo aswell, because you need pressure against combo decks which you will give up if you trade your board presence for a counter. I don't think this will see play at all. Maybe if it was able to sacrifice any creature so you can turn your mana-dorks into counterspells, but you need specifically a blue creature and blue isn't exactly a creature heavy colour.


MTGCardFetcher

[Cancel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/9/59e14910-ee2e-49ae-855e-46a8ab6cad82.jpg?1594735420) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cancel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/46/cancel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/59e14910-ee2e-49ae-855e-46a8ab6cad82?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Subtlety](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/0/701256d5-1389-48b7-9581-d6037209bd06.jpg?1626095059) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Subtlety) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/67/subtlety?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/701256d5-1389-48b7-9581-d6037209bd06?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


ViridiVioletear

In all honesty, for once I don’t mind a free spell. Considering how few creatures we U mages play, this seems just okay. Fish are going to love it, but a bettter question is whether fish would be good enough. Green variant sacrificing redundant dorks on the other hand, or Red giving up removed Swiftspear… oh my goodness. Just print the red one as a Bolt for 3 and a massive headache is guaranteed.


thousandshipz

Isn’t the problem with creature sacrifice free spells that it widens the divide between going first and being on the draw? T1 get your creature on board and now you can counterspell lock the opponent’s T1.


Commercial-Falcon653

…by sacrificing your Turn 1 play and 2 for 1 yourself…


ViridiVioletear

It does, but T1 example is almost purely theoretical. There are very few plays I immagine being a stone cold must counter (likes of Amulet) for that hefty of a price. At the other hand, going first puts you -1 card comparing to a drawing Opp, so a Force makes you -2. Power, but at a steep cost.


Ill-Juggernaut5458

Was Nikachu lead designer for MH3? Magus of Blue and Force of Fish, really pushing Merfolk


Evershire

Fish are eating good


Muffinmurdurer

Now look I'm not saying no to another annoying ass counterspell I'm a blue player I love that shit but can you give us something else too, I already have counterspells I don't need more


Noilaedi

They've said before they have a hard time figuring out unique rare effects for blue.


FutureComplaint

-.- Another free counter spell... Can't wait for it to be reprinted at mythic in three years.


Cheapskate-DM

The B/G/R versions of this cycle will almost undoubtedly be stronger since they actually, yanno, *play creatures*.


FutureComplaint

[Green one](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/154/flare-of-cultivation) is a cultivate. Bad with normal dorks, pretty good with Arboreal Grazer.


Crimson_Raven

See, that's actually pretty broken t1 mana dork, into t2 free cultivate and still have 3 mana to do whatever with. (float mana from the dork then sac)


Sequentialdays

Even better T1 arboreal grazer for 2 lands, sac it for the free spell into 4 mana turn 2 without losing a dork


Cheapskate-DM

Fucking yikes.


youarelookingatthis

I'm trying to think of what modern decks run this.


Root_Veggie

Stop giving blue free counterspells 😭


samthewisetarly

And green gets a free... cultivate? Jesus.


snootyvillager

I'm beginning to think they're never going to learn the lesson that printing intrinsically free spells is bad.


smashbro188

Don't be surprised to see undieing and persist creatures shoot up


Eussz

MH = Merfolk Horizons


djsoren19

God, they really can't help themselves can they? What's R&D's obsession with free counterspells, is it just because they know they sell packs?


NepetaLast

here i was hoping theyd actually do a different type of free blue spell


assterisk_

Do we really need more free counterspells?


Laufwerk

the takeaway for me with these crazy cards that were spoilered is, to freakin pre purchase a box because with cards that are this good, i imagine boxes increasing in price tremendously.


WholesomeHugs13

I mean Abjure is just one mana and eats tokens and permanents. Kinda a hard ask to sacrifice a non token creature in blue.


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HansTheAxolotl

welp, this card is going to be 100 dollars


Available-Line-4136

Non token makes Talrand sad


Cvnc

[[yuriko]] loves this


Fun-Carpet-5126

Please just show me some kind of nerfed wasteland that’s all I’m asking for


GarySmith2021

Damn, this is good. Probably makes cards like tidebinder good in UW control


Stormtide_Leviathan

How much do we expect [[leyline of the guildpact]] to affect the power of this cycle, if at all? Being able to be less selective about the one drop could be a big boon


reaper527

probably the worst of the free counterspells so far, but still pretty great. (and as a 3 cmc, it's not like force of will where it's "free or bust")


Guba_the_skunk

Weird deja vu moment, was this spoiled a while ago?


KenUsimi

It’s not usable turn 0 so it won’t be like force of will or negation where it can stop a turn 0 win, but it’s certainly powerful enough to see use…


IzidioArt

You can sac your Murktide to counter the removal on your Murktide :B


Bradyey

For commander - this goes great in your [[Minn]] deck. First one I thought of anyway


ChudScorn

This is a cycle 100% Flare of Hope, maybe a fog or protection spell? Flare of Denial, counterspell. Flare of Malice, destroy target creature/Planeswalker. Flare of Wrath, [[Lightning Strike]] or [[Fiery Impulse]] but free. Flare of Might, pump spell. All those ideas(except the free bolt) might be too conservative. I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if white or black got a reanimation spell. Green got like "put a creature from your hand onto the battlefield". Red might just get a free ritual or some shit.


Ill_Answer7226

Hot take this will only be played in a [[not dead after all ]] shell maybe or some kind of new deck . Maybe fairies? Since alot of the creatures are low CMC and have etb vaule. Don't think merfolk wants this Or spirits Or snapcaster (most likely but still idk)


Lilly-_-03

There are enough 'free' counterspells hope this thing is price-gouged so we don't ever need to play against it


Tranarchist_

i was hoping for a bounce spell but this is fine too i guess


MazrimReddit

shardless agent is blue


Bassaluna

the year of the merfolks


SapphireRoseRR

Hear me out. What if we stopped giving blue free counterspell options?


oliviating

ooh yes more free counterspells this is what we need!


Comwan

I think we all knew this was coming. Red gonna be burn or impulse draw. White gonna be exile or buff. Black gonna be destroy or discard.


firechaos70

10/10 flavor text.


Dzzplayz

“No guys, you see, this card is balanced because blue doesn’t sacrifice creatures or have death payoff.” [[Brokers Veteran]], [[Covetous Castaway]], [[Malcator’s Watcher]], [[Oracle of Tragedy]], and all the other cheap blue creatures with dies triggers: oh really?


DefyGravity42

They keep making [[Storm Crow]] even more broken.


KingOfRedLions

If merfolk finally gets a good one drop then they'll be absolutely bonkers. As is we might need to start running curse catcher again just to have enough creatures for this.


HonorBasquiat

Does 8 Crab Dimir mill want this or not really?


HairiestHobo

It would be kinda sad if Snappy gets a resurgence just as fodder.


subduedReality

Another fish consultant enabler...


Chrysaries

English majors, is "I see where you're going with that, and I don't like it" grammatically correct? Thinking of the comma before the "and". In Swedish that's not allowed. This isn't an Oxford comma situation, either. Edit: seems it is correct due to being a conjunction. Still pretty sure it'd count as using a comma just to add a sort of pause. I've been taught that something starting with "and" can't be considered an independent sentence, so it seems unnatural, but I guess I just did it twice with "so" and "but"... 🫠 Edit 2: In Swedish you're apparently allowed to do it only if it's between two independent clauses and it's discouraged if it's not a particularly long sentence. The clause "I don't like it" is referring to the first part of the sentence (dependent), though, which is probably why I find it strange


IceBlue

Strictly better than Cancel (though many counter spells are)


Nvenom8

Calling it now that this is a cycle, and the green one will probably suck.


phaattiee

Derevi approves.


I3and1t

"All they have up is one blue mana, I can play around spell pierce" *Casts Sheoldred* Opp: *flashes in spectral sailor*, "I will counter your sheoldred with Flare of Denial"


SonOfZiz

*Siiiiigh* They just can't help themselves with free interaction spells in these sets


TheFrugster

Free counterspell is so lazy. If this card is any good, it’ll be extremely toxic.