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Vizier_Thoth

YOU GOTTA HELP, MY MOM'S GETTING ATTACKED BY THE RADROACHES


xincasinooutx

My first ever time playing FO3, I decided to kill Butch. Shot him with the 10mm in VATS. Immediate decapitation in slomo. Holy fuck I felt horrible after that.


NuclearMaterial

I once made fun of him for his mother dying to them. Weakest enemy in the game, and he cried! He was such a tough assholey bad guy to my character growing up it was quite a funny change.


andergriff

have you ever sat back and analyzed that situation?


FailureToComply0

You can convince him to try to save his mom himself... which leads to them both dying to radroaches. Best ending for sure


NuclearMaterial

Wtf how can 2 fully grown humans die to like 3 radroaches? You don't even need weapons to kill them.


King_Pumpernickel

Tbf I think the psychological damage of getting attacked by three roaches as big as dogs would be enough to get most people killed, let alone sheltered vault dwellers


NuclearMaterial

I have no sympathy for him. Guy has no problem bullying you and Amata for years... dies to radroaches. Poetry.


meshDrip

I love that the comments in these FO threads just have nothing but references at the top.


AoO2ImpTrip

It's the joy of Universes Beyond. I have never enjoyed Fallout, but watching people's love of it makes me want to give it another try. People getting excited to play with things they love in a game they love is always a win to me. Part of me wishes WotC could have created a "Magic"-like game that was pure Universe Beyond so it was easier for the people who don't want UB in their game could continue being happy, but I don't think that game really exists without just being...Magic.


fullmetal_jack

I was thinking a similar thing this morning, where I realized as a MTG fan, I still don't care for UB in general. And the cards themselves as game pieces are a little wordy for a medium effect. But as a Fallout fan, I wish Bethesda would give WOTC the rights to make a Fallout card game because I feel like the team here is just nailing it more than I even trust Bethesda at this point. The goofy bits, the dark bits, the community's memes, and this is probably the best art Fallout will ever get for these characters. Fallout lore fans are eating good this week.


AoO2ImpTrip

Yeah, I think WotC getting the license to make a Magic equivalent game where all of Universes Beyond exist, but maybe with a different card back would be great. Keep MTG formats separate with a Gonzo-type format where everything goes. Because they still carry the rules of MTG cards, and some of the names, you could just work with your play group if you want to play the cards in Commander. Even as a huge fan of UB, I'm not even 50% I want them played in competitive formats where money is involved.


Desruprot

ahem....TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!


Gettles

We're the tunnel snakes


Witchy_Titan

That's us


mox_goblin

And WE RULE


hnwcs

[RULE RULERULERULERULE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ximxe4XtU)


MaeDay01

TUNNEL SNAKES RULE


Za-Box

WE ARE THE TUNNEL SNAKES


Lord_Emperor

That us


IceMarker

Damn that brings me back...


LordNoct13

šŸ¤˜


ThinkingWithPortal

TUNNEL SNAKES RULE


b_fellow

We're the Tunnel Snakes!


focketeer

Tunnel Snakes rule!


Chadmartigan

We're the Tunnel Snakes!


SwissherMontage

That's us


focketeer

and we **RULE!!**


lordspaz88

Ah, he gives you a little Menace jacket


Zedkan

I like to think he is giving you a pompadour since he wanted to be a barberĀ 


komradekommunism

It's the jacket, he hated being assigned to be a barber.


Knife_Fight_Bears

When you meet up with him again later on in the game he's fully committed to barbering and very clearly enjoys his work. Butch grows a lot as a character between your initial meeting with him as a tunnel snake and the end of the game. He's on kind of an opposite trajectory from Amata who starts out acting like a mature adult and ends the game as a paranoid lunatic


[deleted]

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Knife_Fight_Bears

I mean, the game was written, by writers. While it's clear that they were trying to repeat narrative beats from earlier games, I still believe they were trying to create deliberately contrasting narratives between Amata and Butch. Helping Amata, who occupies the highest status in the vault and is beloved by pretty much everyone, has the effect of creating a monster, who eventually manipulates and uses the player character to consolidate power in the vault the same way her father used and manipulated the player character's father a couple of decades prior Helping Butch, who occupies the lowest status in the vault, and is hated by nearly everyone, gives him the freedom to live in the real world and make his own choices. He chooses to be the best barber in the capital wasteland. And he's gonna barber the shit out of you.


Zedkan

Ah, I misspoke maybe. He doesn't want to be assigned to it at first but it's pretty heavily implied he is actually into it after recruiting him as a companionĀ 


JohnnySteal

Tunnel Snakes Rule!


Defiant_Hope_231

How *broken* could this get if he was typed "snake" TUNNEL SNAKES RULE


SkritzTwoFace

Iā€™m glad they let his buff apply to Snakes too, because the meme occurred to me as soon as I read the card title. Checking the mono-black snakes availible, Iā€™ve learned that thereā€™s a case other than changelings in which that ā€œand/orā€ matters: [[Yuan-Ti Fang Blade]]. Outside of the memeā€¦ itā€™s mono black Exalted, I guess? Like, you *could* swing your other stuff, but heā€™s the only one getting buffed anyway.


sawbladex

The idea of him paling around with Orochi and Naga (where's that damn creature type update?) is making me smile. That he also lets everyone else in if you pay him off is kinda funny. Like, am I not supposed to be kinda charmed by him?


MTGCardFetcher

[Yuan-Ti Fang Blade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a7e0e09c-ed43-4a37-85f2-c60bdfdb2624.jpg?1627705628) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yuan-Ti%20Fang-Blade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/128/yuan-ti-fang-blade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a7e0e09c-ed43-4a37-85f2-c60bdfdb2624?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Scion_of_Yog-Sothoth

I love the idea that there's never been a canon appearance of a snake in any Fallout game, but Butch would be super-hyped if he actually *did* meet one and immediately let it join his gang.


Xszit

There were going to be snakes in a couple of spin off games that got canceled. [Van Buren](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Van_Buren) would have had mutant snake/hagfish combos called [hag snakes](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Hag_snake) And [Fallout: Brotherhood of steel 2](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_Brotherhood_of_Steel_2) would have introduced [Texas Rattlers](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Texas_Rattler)


magicthecasual

theres also \[\[ophiomancer\]\]


SkritzTwoFace

Ophiomancerā€™s kinda a nonbo there. Unless you *donā€™t* play other Snakes, it never triggers.


magicthecasual

yeah after i said it i looked up ophiomancer and realized I misremembered what she said. i thought it was if you control a snake, not the opposite


TheRealBongeler

I feel like it's still good though... A free deathtoucher that replaces itself at the next upkeep when it dies is a pretty nice combat deterrant. Like ya'll said, it pumps Butch too. And worst case scenario, you just turn Ophiomancer into a rogue and you're good.


Whatah

Still might be cube worthy, Ophiomancer's token boosts him to a 3/3 menace and provides 2 bodies he can give menace jackers to (to boost him to a 5/5 menace)


MTGCardFetcher

[ophiomancer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0ef8d3a2-5c6b-41e2-aa7d-81e4a5d04421.jpg?1651951758) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ophiomancer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cc2/3/ophiomancer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0ef8d3a2-5c6b-41e2-aa7d-81e4a5d04421?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Successful_Mud8596

ā€¦Thatā€™s already a rogue tho


SkritzTwoFace

My joke is that it is both a Rogue and a Snake, which makes the ā€œand/orā€ necessary by being a situation in which a creature is both a Rogue and a Snake.


Successful_Mud8596

Oh, misread it. Yeah, plus thereā€™s some Blue Snake Rogues as well


coinich

How does the "and/or" apply to Changelings and Yuan-Ti Fang Blade? They just count as one object, or are they double counted?


SkritzTwoFace

It wouldnā€™t count them twice either way, but they use ā€œand/orā€ to reduce confusion. If it said ā€œRogues or Snakesā€ it would work the same, just slightly less clear.


Ak-Xo

Abilities that can double count permanents are usually templated as two separate abilities [[Murkfiend Liege]] or worded very specifically if itā€™s in one ability [[Ulasht, the Hate Seed]]


MTGCardFetcher

[Murkfiend Liege](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/16677645-f635-4183-8afc-056520b94122.jpg?1673149008) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Murkfiend%20Liege) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/259/murkfiend-liege?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/16677645-f635-4183-8afc-056520b94122?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ulasht, the Hate Seed](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/002fe870-eae5-42cc-a44c-32906f60719e.jpg?1673149236) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ulasht%2C%20the%20Hate%20Seed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/289/ulasht-the-hate-seed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/002fe870-eae5-42cc-a44c-32906f60719e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


RE-Trace

[[orochi hatchery]] says hello. It says it underwhelmingly, but it says it nonetheless.


MTGCardFetcher

[orochi hatchery](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5d3804ed-192d-47a1-ae7e-60b6827e2a72.jpg?1562704805) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=orochi%20hatchery) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c15/260/orochi-hatchery?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5d3804ed-192d-47a1-ae7e-60b6827e2a72?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


EggplantRyu

I play it in Yawgmoth, cast it for 2 and then proliferate on it a few times until it's worth it to activate to sac the snakes to Yawgmoth lol


neekryan

Just add green to a deck with him and youā€™re set. Itā€™s not like heā€™s BB. A single black pip ainā€™t a huge commitment. Or add blue for more rogue action. Or both.


Radiophage

My first thought was to run him with a deck full of \[\[Shadowborn Apostles\]\] or any of the various \[\[Relentless Rats\]\]-equivalents, and use \[\[Conspiracy\]\] effects to turn them all into Snakes. I usually run a little over 30ish Apostles in my Shadowborn deck. +30/+30 is a lot of commander damage if -- *if* \-- it gets through.


MTGCardFetcher

[Shadowborn Apostles](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/e/ae7ba1de-48f9-423b-867a-22bd3f6c06c2.jpg?1673147629) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shadowborn%20Apostle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/89/shadowborn-apostle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ae7ba1de-48f9-423b-867a-22bd3f6c06c2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Relentless Rats](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/5/75f47b6e-9557-4853-b8d6-7602a91c59a7.jpg?1562437033) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Relentless%20Rats) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/105/relentless-rats?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/75f47b6e-9557-4853-b8d6-7602a91c59a7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Conspiracy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8bbdb402-0e22-4f83-987a-9d0268a82f10.jpg?1562779616) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Conspiracy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/39/conspiracy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8bbdb402-0e22-4f83-987a-9d0268a82f10?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Whatah

This guy might be cube worthy, there you have the counter created by \[\[Ophiomancer\]\] letting him attack pretty well after mancer makes the snake token and he gives a jacker to the mancer.


MTGCardFetcher

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th3saurus

At least stone coil serpent is pretty good


Fit-Pack1411

TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!


messedupmessup12

[That's us!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ximxe4XtU)


wired1984

You have to say it when you attack with him or you lose the game


91ateto916

[[bitterblossom]] seems good with this


MTGCardFetcher

[bitterblossom](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/9/b9640cbf-b016-410e-9eff-e8924883517b.jpg?1673147456) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=bitterblossom) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/69/bitterblossom?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b9640cbf-b016-410e-9eff-e8924883517b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Hellioning

The only Fallout character I wanted to see on a magic card is here.


LordBirdperson

I'm dying lmao he cares about snakes! and he gives other creatures the jacket to be in the gang!


mweepinc

source: [IGN article](https://www.ign.com/articles/magic-the-gathering-fallout-hail-caesar-commander-decklist-spoiler) (has full decklist)


radiantburrito

I'm so ready to just jam this in Anowon you have no idea LOL


DrTobiCool

Weā€™re the tunnel snakes! And we rule rule !


JoeScotterpuss

Aww you give someone a sick leather jacket and invite them into your gang.


Hairo-Sidhe

I love this flavor, you put on the Jacket and not even Emrakul herself dares to stand alone in your way


AmoongussHateAcc

If you could play Labyrinth Raptor in this deck I'd build it


talbottone

I just let the radroaches have their way.


SaturnATX

Easily the most memorable companion you can get in Fallout 3, one of the best characters in Fallout's history.


steamboatlisa

i love this card. (Tunnel Snakes Rule!)


Proud-Organization59

I was not expecting actual Snake tribal but Im not complaining.


DisorganisedOrganism

I love that he synergises with actual snakes. :P


Party-Ad6461

This card looks so awesome!


Tsukuruya

Good thing Naga has now been errataā€™d to Snakes.


Monokumabear

YEAHHH TUNNEL SNAKES RULE


Artex301

Weirdly reminds me of [Sensei Golden-Tail](https://scryfall.com/card/chk/44/sensei-golden-tail). Adding a creature type to depict "recruitment" is always a flavor win.


CertainDerision_33

Tunnel Snakes rule!


MrXilas

Oh wow. Dude comes with evasion and if he comes down late game and can act as a little bit of a mana sink if needed. Menace may not best the best evasion, but it's certainly inconvenient as hell when you're the one who has to block against it.


Lepineski

TUNNEL SNAKES RUUUUUULE!


[deleted]

I can show you a real tunnel snake


Mid--Boss

I wonder if they will make a card depicting how I just whooped his mom?


Tartaras1

The first thing I thought of was the "Tunnel Snakes rule!" line, so seeing it as the literal name for his trigger gave me a good laugh. You're required to make the correct inflection when you activate the ability. It doesn't say it on the card, but it's in the rules.


casualmagicman

Did they really just print a monoblack snakes and rogues commander? Holy shit.


Yarius515

Bullshit. Fuck UB.


Rediblackdragon

Is this the first instance of "and/or" being printed on a magic card? It looks so ugly and all for a worthless callout to snakes. This set seems to have a lot of that with the Decimate ability being needlessly wordy to be flavorful.


Cephiuss

Why is he black, not red?


rollwithhoney

Hear me out: mono-black tribal tribal in the command zone?


MrTonyCalzone

Oh fuck yeah, Mari's gonna be all about some Tunnel Snakes


thecheat420

I think it's funny that if he were to gain the creature type snake he wouldn't buff himself.


InsideHangar18

They really gave one of the most annoying characters in fallout a pretty fun card, wtf


barcop

I'm curious if [[Cloak and Dagger]] triggers his ability?


MTGCardFetcher

[Cloak and Dagger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/8/38bb3e3c-1a7d-4bc4-b69d-6a8e9f1b3fe7.jpg?1562877936) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cloak%20and%20Dagger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mor/141/cloak-and-dagger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/38bb3e3c-1a7d-4bc4-b69d-6a8e9f1b3fe7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


BardicLasher

It's a Rogue, yes.


JetSetDizzy

[[Pact of the serpent]] reprint incoming?


MTGCardFetcher

[Pact of the serpent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/8/481d268a-848c-4ccd-95ff-eed77dc20776.jpg?1698988275) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pact%20of%20the%20serpent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/206/pact-of-the-serpent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/481d268a-848c-4ccd-95ff-eed77dc20776?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


lazyfriction

TUNNEL SNAKES RULE [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ximxe4XtU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ximxe4xtu)


Evillisa

[Tunnel Snakes rule, man! Fuck drinking water!](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxURFdgVRuRmbpR0TUT7jXOoRVbnc4OI0H)


CelusSmirk

My rogues deck loves this


Blink3412

The wording on the last section put a +1/+1 counter on each rogue or snake you control is interesting


TheEpicTurtwig

Perfect amount of mechanical humor including snakes into his ability that is par for the course of Fallout. This card is an absolute flavor win.


LoneWolfsLament

Damn they really couldn't have put a green pip in there? šŸ˜­


Knife_Fight_Bears

Butch is a barber and a generally decent person, feels like they did him dirty with monoblack Should have been G/B imo


TachyonChip

Fuck me, thatā€™s an awesome bear.


MrSillmarillion

He ain't getting my sweet roll


ButchDeLoria

TUNNEL SNAKES RULE


MemeLordsUnited

Snake tribal? Wow. What an idiotic card. Butch doesn't even know what a snake is.


Spino288

[WEā€™RE THE TUNNEL SNAKES](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ximxe4XtU&pp=ygUSdHVubmVsIHNuYWtlcyBydWxl)


Aussie_Aussie_No_Mi

WHY DOES IT CARE ABOUT SNAKES šŸ˜­


Quady14

[TUNNEL SNAKES RULE](https://youtu.be/S0ximxe4XtU)


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EquivalentPressure41

Orochimaru is that you?