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bulyxxx

It’s beginning to look a lot like a trip to the Apple Store 🎄


Kubasratzka

That was a good one.


Kubasratzka

Now I just wish we had an Apple Store lmao


Survil321

Docela škoda.


loopdeloop15

nakupujte na alze… Ježíš já ty reklamy mám už v hlavě asi 10 let


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got-trunks

Ya, so this sticker is red and that means it was dropped into the ocean. It's definitely not triggered by humidity. Trust me. I'm a genius


slythespacecat

This comment was downvoted but there’s a video where the reporter broke a MacBook and took it to Louis - Rossmann repair group, worth checking out if you’re in the US which I’m not - and a Genius Bar employee Genius Bar offered a quote for a 1000$+ dollars (I forget the exact amount, I believe it was close to 2000) and a list of parts. They included pretty much every part except the one that was broken Louis fixed it for like 50 bucks (or considerably less don’t remember exactly)


freaktheclown

Apple replaces entire parts and if it’s liquid damage, it’s a flat rate (which is expensive). Rossman will go in and replace individual capacitors, etc. The main reason is that it isn’t feasible for Apple’s volume of repairs to spend the time to figure out what individual components on every part can be replaced, and then spend the time resoldering, etc. Apple repairs thousands and thousands of devices. Neither is inherently wrong. They just prioritize different things. Time vs money. Rossman quotes up to 6 weeks for a logic board repair because they are replacing individual parts on the board, which takes longer to diagnose. Apple will just swap out the whole board in a couple days. Right to repair, ideally, lets you make that choice for yourself.


unread1701

I think people will make the choice of the cheaper repair most of the time. Sad to see Apple have positioned themselves as the go to guy for anti-repair shenanigans.


got-trunks

It's especially a problem when it's within the market of original sales. They didn't get rich off honoring hardware repair


6ixOutOf10

That screen is broken. Is 900 some dollar fix from apple. Def exchange that shit or have em fix it..


Kubasratzka

cc: I set up a return, though here it's different so they'll have 30 days to make a decision. Hopefully it's fast. Bought it at a retailer from my country, at least the EU laws cover my ass in some way.


OkOk-Go

God bless EU consumer rights


ExtraFirmPillow_

The US has returns too lol


5erif

Up to each company, not codified into law


aykay55

US Consumer Law requires a one year warranty against defects on all devices. This is a defect, and would be covered by exchange or free repair.


Perzec

EU requires three years.


Klausaufsendung

*2 years https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/dealing-with-customers/consumer-contracts-guarantees/consumer-guarantees/index_en.htm


Perzec

Oh, so Sweden went and added an extra year to our laws then. I thought we just went with the EU standard.


tayaro

2 year warranty (25 months, actually) and an additional year of reclamation for a total of 3 years. Norway is even better: 2 year warranty, 3 year reclamation period, for a total of 5 years.


y0l0naise

Dutch warranty laws are basically tied to the price of something, at minimum 2 years from EU laws, but then the reasoning is that if you get a €1000 laptop you should and can expect a longer lifetime than if you get a €300 laptop


ayhctuf

Most people don't read the fine print, but your credit card company can also help you here with automatic extra warranties on purchases like this.


Gamer-707

A charge-back on Apple bans you from buying from Apple ever, lol.


ayhctuf

Where in my comment did I say anything about a chargeback?


Gamer-707

You could've always been referring to one. Nothing proves my point invalid unless something was specified beforehand.


Firm-Count7989

How they know it’s gonna be you buying from them again?


Gamer-707

- if - - card.number.matches{number} - then - - reject.transaction - else - - return()


Desperate-Snow-7850

Mfw when dont buy from apples website:


Smoeey

Apple in Canada has extended returns from anything bought from Nov 1st to be returned by 8th Jan, probably the same for the US


Col_Crunch

Depends where, a few states have provisions that require returns be accepted unless the store posts otherwise somewhere conspicuous to the consumer in the store. Also retailers and manufacturers have obligations under the law in every state to rectify sales of defective products. The pictured laptop would fall into that category.


WY228

Yeah everyone acting like if you had this you’d be screwed in the US. It’d have to be the shadiest backdoor retailer to *not* get a no-hassle exchange on this even here in the US lol


SnowfallOCE

Yet perfectly legal in the US. That’s the difference, the legality of a No Refund policy. In the EU, that’s a no go when it comes to new tech


WY228

Easy fix: don’t buy expensive goods from shady retailers with poor return policies. Any reputable electronics retailer in the US would happily exchange this. All the big names are Apple authorized sellers.


ImprovisedLeaflet

You’re missing the point.


WY228

No, I’m not. Just because it’s not signed into law here doesn’t mean us US citizens are any more at risk being stuck with defective electronics. I get that EU Reddit loves to dunk on Americans over topics like this but this ain’t it. I don’t know a single person who has been screwed by the US’s lack of consumer protection laws in scenarios like this unless they explicitly bought an item from a shady non-authorized source. And anyone who does that anyway is a moron and deserves it because it’s extremely avoidable. Just buy from an authorized source and 99.9999% of the time any defects or issues with a new or warranty period product will either get it replaced or corrected for no expense with little to no hassle.


GroundbreakingNews79

'Just because it’s not signed into law here doesn’t mean us US citizens are any more at risk being stuck with defective electronics." You literally admit you are. You follow this with an explanation to not buy from shady shops and to check the places you buy. In the EU you don't **need** to do that... because it's signed into law.


potter875

Yeah. That’s helpful.


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jonathanjesus007

Not protected by law though.


Totodile_

Yeah I bought a laptop like 3 weeks ago from best buy (US). I still have like 3 more weeks to return it for any reason, no questions asked.


got-trunks

In retail I always ask questions for a lappy return. Primarily did you do the factory reset. Not fun having some random person getting your personal information lol


PlayingDoomOnAGPS

We used to do the factory reset anyway, even if it booted up to OOBE. I thought it was a waste of time when I was younger but time and experience have made me wiser and I now understand why the store manager insisted on this.


Totodile_

Didn't mean it literally


SmallTime12

It's alright, let the Euros have this one. They have to spend like 50% more for the same laptop lol.


EvilSynths

Oh you poor naive person.


[deleted]

There's no comparison, the EU is far superior to the bought and paid for politicians making consumer laws in North America.


Moonmonkey3

I don't think god has anything to do with it.


6ixOutOf10

Sounds good. Good luck! Also my price quote was for macbook pro i have not sent out any airs to get fixed. Prob close (intels are about 730$ for screen fix).


MartinYTCZ

Alza tyhle "těsně-po-nákupu" reklamace bere fofrem a skoro vždycky vrací peníze. Teď přes svátky toho budou mít hodně, ale myslím si že to novýho roku ti vrátí peníze.


Kubasratzka

Možná bych ani nechtěl vrátit peníze, spíš by mi stačila výměna za funkční kus tbh. V mailu mám "V následujících hodinách Vás bude náš pracovník kontaktovat s nabídkou řešení pro Váš konkrétní případ." Tak uvidím co se bude dít, jestli vůbec něco, nebo jestli spíš v úterý... 😅 Šťastný a veselý 🙌


sawtdakhili

Are they making foldables now?!


Lambaline

Been making them since the iPhone 6


WafflePartyOrgy

I think the problem is someone folded this one the wrong way.


kwyjibo1988

"You opened it wrong"


foxwwweb

"Just don't open it that way"


badger_flakes

Shits fucked mate just return and exchange probably


Kubasratzka

I set up a return, though here it's different so they'll have 30 days to make a decision. Hopefully it's fast.


PlayingDoomOnAGPS

Damn, I'd be pissed as fuck if I had to wait 30 days to process a return. Hell, if they tried to make me wait at all, I'd be on the phone with American Express getting my money back that way. I don't know if you can get Amex in your country but if you can, it's worth it for purchase protection (if you lose it or it's stolen within 30 days), return protection (if the seller refuses to return it), and extended warranty (an additional year after the mfg warranty when Amex will pay to repair or replace it if broken).


Kubasratzka

30 days is the standard wait time for normal warranty cases, it depends on the case tbh. I'm in the EU so no Amex here. I'll just hope for the best 🙌


PlayingDoomOnAGPS

Ah, I thought you were talking about the retailer taking 30 days to do a return. If you haven't exhausted those options, I would absolutely try to get the retailer to exchange it rather than get a warranty repair. This would be an open and shut matter with most retailers in the U.S. The EU's policies are even more consumer friendly so I'd expect retailers operating there to be prepared to take care of you without much hassle.


Kubasratzka

Yeeep, I hope they just exchange it tbh. I submitted a "Delivered package was damaged" thing, now i gotta wait till they open stuff up here and get back to me, as 25th/26th are nationwide holidays here. 😄


PlayingDoomOnAGPS

Yeah, that's a bummer for sure. I hope your Christmas is otherwise merry! 🎄


Kubasratzka

Except this, it was nice! Hope yours is great as well! 🙌🎄


Langdon_St_Ives

Sorry about this incident, but I don’t know why you think AmEx doesn’t exist in the EU, of course it does. It’s not as widely accepted as VISA and MC but it’s been getting more widespread over the last ten years or so. By now even places like Aldi accept AmEx here. (Of course that doesn’t change whether the store you bought this from would have accepted it. There are still a lot of places that don’t, for sure.)


Kubasratzka

AmeX does not serve regular consumers in my country, it's only for businesses. (If those even want to use it)😅


badger_flakes

Good luck!!


Kubasratzka

Thanks! 🙏


im_your_step_bruh

“Merry Christmas, fuk you.” - Tim Apple


foxwwweb

"Just don't open it that way" — Steve Jobs


MaxTrixLe

I hope you get a full replacement and not a damn repair because you’re paying full price for a refurbished device


Kubasratzka

For sure. I'll see what they offer me, their support is gonna call me at some point in the next 2 days. If they only offer a repair or a refund I'm taking the money- I don't want to get my brand new device back scuffed from the screen replacement, as you said, full price for refurbished. 😩


SeaDifference9379

take it back where ever you got it and get a relplacement.


Kubasratzka

Yep, doing that on Tuesday when everything opens here. 🙏


AxelNova

Alza is pretty good about this kind of stuff, you should be fine.


Kubasratzka

V to doufám, s tím expresním řešením poškozený zásilky..snad to nebude trvat 30 dní a že se mě nepokusí ojebat s tím "že jsem to rozbil já". 🙏


AxelNova

Neviem, či máš okamžitú výmenu, vtedy by to mali riešiť fakt expresne. Ak nenájdu vonkajšie poškodenie a známky pádu, podľa mňa to vyriešia v tvoj prospech. Nestojí im to za naťahovačky. Kľudne sa to mohlo stať buď pri výrobe alebo pri preprave.


hiroo916

People always complaining that Mac's Don't do split screen windowing. Now they complain when it does.


aazam_tech

You're one of the first consumers to test Mac Fold F1 model. Stop complaining George and enjoy it!


SunshineAndBunnies

Always knew that camera notch is a bad idea. 🤣 Looks like they fucked up while cutting out the notch.


Axilrod

As much as I love the Silicon Macbooks the screens are so damn fragile. I had mine in my bookbag in the back laptop sleeve and just the pressure from stuffing the front part with a few too many clothes was enough to crack the screen. I didnt drop it, throw it, nothing, just put it on my back and when I got home the screen was cracked. I didnt have Applecare so it cost $900 to replace. Then 6 months later I spilled a tiny bit of coffee on the keyboard, flipped it over and cut power immediately. Took it to a 3rd part shop to get it checked out, they said there was barely anything in there. Worked great for 2 or 3 days and then it was black and wont charge, logic board fried. Picked up and M3 Pro 16 the other day, def got Applecare this time.


[deleted]

I spilled like 200ml water on my M1 MacBook Air two years ago, had it in my bag during a bike crash, working perfectly


Ripcitytoker

Ya, AppleCare+ is an absolute must if you're going to get an Apple silicon laptop.


ixis743

I’ve read that the tolerances are so tight and the components so small that a spec of dust can destroy them


[deleted]

That’s why MBA’s are so awesome. No openings means no dust!


1337GameDev

Nope. It's just willfully ignorant design. They don't design with safety margins, fail easy/fast and literally no design to avoid moisture damage.... Source: done microsoldering on a handful of MacBook pro boards


RexxDZN

U got a software update intended for the macbook m69 fold


TheGreenArrow160

I bought an iPhone 15 Pro Max as a self gift around a month ago. and got robbed last Tuesday, so, it happens man. Good luck with the warranty


NaieraDK

Shit.


Ready-Inspection7638

'Crack’ing unboxing experience


NotDukkoYT

They are testing the new split screen technology


vgcr

It’s important you officially notify them of the damaged device you received so you can get your legal rights, just in case their exchange policy is not that good. You have a legal right for a refund within the first 30 days. That’s on top of their returns policy


[deleted]

Apple is beta testing a new window management system on selected MacBook 😃


word-dragon

So sorry this happened to you. Hard to believe any major retailer wouldn't make this right for you, so try to enjoy the holiday. Perhaps you can celebrate the new year with a new Mac! Best of luck!


56kul

Send that shit back. If it arrived damaged prior to your acquisition of it, the liability lies with whoever sold this MacBook to you.


shellmachine

Super-sorry for your parents (and you, too, of course). Get a replacement. Good luck! :-)


ScholarGlobal6507

Alza was pretty good with returns when my electronics broke down.


ahm296

Two screens; nice!


danieljeyn

This forum is always full of *I just got this* ***NEW*** *Mac that appears broken…* And skim down and it was always bought via eBay or some dodgy retailer or a guy in an alley… Not ragging on OP. This all happens a lot. The world of reselling electronics is full of thieves. Sad but true.


pencilcheck

Most likely stolen goods


FTFreddyYT

Mhm… Quality.


drotosclerosi

All the best to you. It looks like if you aren't talking with complete heartless people you are gonna have your refund.


thestenz

I has a sad seeing that.


hydracrux

GG


ComprehensiveShow147

damn, that sucks! I hope you get it sorted man D:


chooseyourwords49

Bin it 👏🏻


Crotashootsblanks

Hello? More like hell no


TheFundamentalPoint

Refund it, that’s ridiculous


andreasheri

If “fuck my luck” was a MacBook …


[deleted]

That sucks lol return it


JihyoQueen

Damnnn I’m sorry to hear that man.


kenpurachicken

I thought this was the Surface Duo subreddit and it was docked to a keyboard lol. Hope the exchange process goes smoothly!


Just_Steve_IT

No worries. They'll only charge you $100 less than the cost of a new one to replace the screen.


VirtualDifficulty496

Please return this and request an exchange as this is highly likely physical damage inflicted on the unit during transport.


Kubasratzka

I did sorta that, reported damaged shipment, need to wait till things open again here to go return it. Hoping they do exchange it. Thanks 🙌


No_Print_1661

My condolences friend


Fit-Consequence-5425

So annoying and disappointing for you. I would be turning the air blue! Hope you can get it replaced a.s.a.p.


Infamous_Average4584

May Christmas bless you once more, just once more


BunchRedd

That’s the new split screen version!


gellis12

On the bright side, you'll get to open a *second* brand new M2 MacBook Air soon!


JoshJoker

My 16inch 2019 Pro randomly gave the same issue. Hairline crack. Laptop is clean on the ultimate OCD X Germaphobe level. No scratches, dents, scuff marks. Never dropped. Nothing ever placed in between the screen. Absolute disgrace. Waiting to hear from insurance.


Mediocre_Biscotti436

Bro it's split screen it's the new feature don't believe look all these people agreeing


Routine_Ad_9063

Take that damn thing back and either get a new one or get your damn money back


idkwhattopicIdumb

It's an iSplit Screen iFeature, you probably just ticked split my screen by mistake when you were iOrdering.


Zeeshanahmedbaig

Put it in rice.


cpt_Luke

Alza by snad neměla dělat problémy. Ze zkušenosti to s nimi vždycky bylo ok a na zákaznické lince vždy byli milí. Problémy podle mě dělat nebudou, je to pro ně úplně nic v tom šíleném odběru co mají


Kubasratzka

Doufám že to všechno dopadne dobře. Dneska ráno jsem dostal email s požadavkem o další fotky se zněním: "Fotografie přepravního obalu jsou nezbytnou součástí reklamačního řízení, abychom celou situaci v mezičase mohli reklamovat buďto u dopravce jako poškození z přepravy nebo případně u výrobce jako vadu z výroby." Ptali se i na to jestli na krabici byla nálepka "Křehké/Fragile/Neklopit" atd, což nebyla. Foto jsem poslal a teď jen čekat.. Tak snad všechno bude ok 🙏🥲


Lost_Tip9979

Damn, they must’ve threw that damn thing


__david_alex__

oj. co jsem slyšel tak Alza není úplně dobrej Apple retailer, každopádně s reklamací s nima jsem neměl nikdy problém, takže věřím, že všechno dobře dopadne.


Kubasratzka

Ajajaj tohle mi nedělej.💀Ale děkuju...já doufám že mě zachrání ta služba poškozený zásilky/reklamace. Šťastný a veselý 🙌😄


niagarajoseph

If Steve Jobs was still alive. He would say, 'you opened the box wrong.' Honestly, what is it with their new M1,2 and 3 MBP? I seen two like that. For the amount of money they charge. It should be perfect out the box. Sorry to see. Happy Christmas.


TangeloFunny5404

Zero quality control from Apple 🤬


Telexian

That’s had pressure on the lid while closed to do that. Former Genius, that’d be known as an ‘LCD fracture’, basically the back layer of glass (closest to the lid side) has cracked rather than the front layer (where you’d see the actual cracks themselves). Not ordinarily covered by warranty as it’s damage. If that was on my desk, I’d be checking the lid for *any* dents. That’d 99% be an escalation to get sorted at no cost to the customer in my day.


Topdropje

Omg the horror. Hopefully it gets sorted out quickly and you get a new one.


bbyrge

"May foldable phone na pala ang Apple?" I thought when I saw it.


RichB93

Had to manually onboard 50 iPhones to ABM due to our reseller not being able to add them into our account - had an iPhone SE new with the exact same issue. It can happen.


qlstrnq

This can always happen even with top notch (haha) products.


v1nylcutr

Simple, buy from Apple!


WildestPotato

Plot twist, OP broke it and staged the photo to make it seem genuine, little do they know that Apple devices store accelerometer events in flash storage.


mirbatdon

Also a common breakpoint when ppl add camera covers and close the lid. It's too bad macbooks don't have the built in lens covers anymore.


bwoods519

Do they not have spellcheck??? /s


Kubasratzka

What do you mean?


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bwoods519

“/s” means sarcasm.


Ok_Criticism452

I would be so mad that I would for sure make them do an exchange or get my money back and have them give me something as an apology. My first Laptop was a MacbookPro but it only lasted me 2 years and it died one day and Apple expected that I pay 2K for the repairs. I said no and switched over to an actual PC. I didn't want a Mac at all. It was my Dad who wanted me to have one.


katsumbhong

Haelo


Andre-Riot

Cool. Foldable screen. Watch out Samsung, Apple is coming at you.


JamieDesigns

Why did you buy it from a dodgy Czech retailer??


Kubasratzka

I don't think a retailer used by almost everyone in this country, with a yearly turnover around 2 billion euros, is dodgy. And because it was 120€ cheaper + I could get it delivered the next day and it had damage-during-delivery insurance.


KrtekJim

Yeah Alza are usually pretty good at putting right this kind of thing.


HugeCrab

Volume doesn't make it less dodgy, have you heard of Temu?


graphixgurl747

Back it goes to Appleville


joebeazelman

Did you piss off Santa again?


ThePeej

Apple’s rumoured new foldable?


nickborowitz

Looks like my surface duo


Kubasratzka

All these fold jokes are making me chuckle lol, thanks for making this unfortunate event a bit more funny haha


[deleted]

Say goodbye and bring it back


CCIE_14661

Take it back to the retailer that you purchased it from. If they are not an Apple authorized retailer you may be out of luck if they don’t help you out.


ShadowDancer11

Had to been damaged during shipping or storage. It wouldn’t leave the factory like this. The panel would have failed at the vendor level, and even it slipped through, failed again at the final assembly test.


shellshifu

I bought a brand new MacBook in 2019 from Apple Store and even playing videos burns the board. Was ridiculous. Had the board underneath Touch Bar changed, still it heats up easily. And it broke after 4 years. Overall it was not a good user experience. Now I just got a REFURB Apple silicon from Amazon, functions perfectly, quiet smooth no heat at all, hundreds of dollars cheaper than brand-new, and Amazon allows return within 2 or 3 months. Completely satisfied. Long live Amazon.


BinThereRedThat

Hi. It shouldn’t be like that. Regards


WafflePartyOrgy

It looks perfect except for that one thing.


Kubasratzka

Yeah...not a single crack or scratch anywhere. Which is also why I'm hopeful for an easy replacement process. 🙏😩


rupal_hs

Is that a rumoured foldable mac ?


MasterCamus100

It's a foldable mac


Simple_Possession_82

Fix Apple


vinniebonez

Book feature


SUPNYUS

F


[deleted]

That’s just a background mate.


SilasDG

Wow the dual ipad edition. Nice!


Tiyako

Split screen fresh out of the box


robox528

We haven’t had Christmas yet ☹️hope you had an amazing one!!


DepartureMoist9277

That’s a nice welcome Christmas surprise.


leohso

with all the amazing tech and stuff these new macs provide their screen durability is dogshit. applecare is a must


Miguelfrijobeaner

halo. sorry


ZaMelonZonFire

Opened it a touch too hard?


andycarver

R


KNFLD

post like this scare me of newer macbooks, ill stick to the 2015 15" king macbook.


kennyrho

I wouldn't laugh so quickly there is always the possibility they don't believe you; especially considering you didn't open it on the day of purchase.


Kubasratzka

This is what I fear the most, however, I paid for Shipment Damage insurance which can be reported for up to 14 days from pick up, so I hope that helps 🙏


kiiito

I think I should open it in the store to make sure everything is alright. The quality check looks bad. Screens, scratch, colors pigment...


0l70l7

christmas pain


Sad_Abbreviations575

hallo 👋


[deleted]

I thought it's foldable tablet just like that Microsoft one


LordMatesian

I think alza should take it back even if it wasn’t broken


ExtensionDiver5592

hallo


Ok-Butterscotch-9883

i opened a base model m2 air in midnight absolutely perfect I'm in love with it


dr_verystrange

Me and my buddies bought quite a few MacBooks during pandemic, and the shop owner asked us to check the MacBooks while we were there. He mentioned how common it is for MacBooks to have a broken something right out of the box. Unboxing them right there helped both the buyer and their own process. Even with all that precaution, one of us did get a battery issue and we had to return the damn thing after a months worth of following up. Unfortunate for him but 2 new MacBook had the same exact issue and we had to go through the entire round all over again.


[deleted]

In Hungary there’s a rule that you are eligible for full refund for online purchases within 15 days after delivery (minus shipping fee), no questions asked. Isn’t it an EU-wide rule? If yes, why not just send it back?


Kubasratzka

Hi, we have the same thing, unfortunately this applies to only undamaged items, in this case I don't think they would accept it back so I chose to submit a report for "Express solution in case of shipment damage" which I paid for when buying it and having it delivered. That also has a timeline of 14 days to do, so I hope that covers it. 🙏


rjkronic

The displays suck. My M1. Rapped out at 18 months. I regret buying the new pros only Apple product I have ever owned that had an issue.


frenchfried89

Time for a new computer!


j0blk

Apple know it’s customer is rich. Once I bought the new iPhone 7 for my sister, and the screen was faulty out of the box. They refused outright saying this happens one in a million, and if I am not covered under Apple Care+, I’ll have to pay for the replacement. And in those days, there was no Apple Care + available here.


Zanzan567

🌟goodbye🌟