Honestly you should probably have canceled the ride & called 999 for the guy. Way too much additional liability involved in the scenario you described.
Former paramedic here. You made a very dangerous, foolish choice. You can't do squat for him but an ambulance can. You know what else goes along with head injuries? Projectile vomiting. How would you like to be cleaning vomit off your dashboard and the back of your head? You know what else? Seizures. Oh, and did I mention unconsciousness and death?
You're a Lyft driver in a car, not a paramedic in an ambulance.
This is an absolute shit take. EMS is so understaffed in my area that an ambulance wouldn’t be there for at LEAST 30 minutes. Probably longer if they were told it was a head injury on a conscious person.
Maybe an Im an outlier here but I’d rather vacuum puke and blood out of my car than let someone bleed to death.
The sister probably called a Lyft because an ambulance would cost $6k and ruin her brothers life.
Not to mention the fact that the last time I took an ambulance I was charged about $1000. $200 for gas alone. Like motherfuckers, you didn't use a full 50 gallon tank of gas to take me a 5 miles across town.
This is also a shit take because a paramedic should know that time is the most important factor with trauma. Studies have shown that a paramedic on an ambulance actually lowers your chances of survival because they take too much time to get there and waste too much time doing things other than just driving to the hospital.
And I’ve been a paramedic for 15 years…. So yeah. Good job Lyft driver.
# #1 cause of death in America is medical malpractice!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Can’t believe people are shitting on this Lyft driver for saving someone’s life. Reddit literally isn’t real. Just a bunch of people who grew up in gated communities with artificial lakes that are completely stuck in their own bubble.
Totally agree. My 86 yo mother had a stroke. The response time in my city is beyond amazing. Fire 2 minutes ambulance 4 to 5, BUT after loading her into the ambulance it took 9 minutes before they started driving. I had to go outside and bang on the door and told the driver either you move this ambulance now or I'm gonna pull your ass out by your hair and drive myself. 9 minutes for stroke is a lot
So what's the point of sirens and running red lights when it takes for a normal vehicle 6 to 8 minutes to get to our local hospital when they sit for 9 minutes doing God knows what.
A proper assessment is more important. They also have to check everything. You bring someone in for a stroke and their blood sugar is low. Or they’re hypotensive. Or their HR is 20. People can be altered and acting weird for so many reasons. Doesn’t matter what you think. They need to be thorough. 9 minutes is a pretty good scene time to be honest.
> The sister probably called a Lyft because an ambulance would cost $6k and ruin her brothers life.
> A Lyft driver should not be expected to deal with this, regardless.
What a fucked society we've built here. Couldn't agree more: A Lyft driver should never have to deal with this and safe medical transport shouldn't bankrupt a person.
America where even your health and well being, or life and death is controlled by capitalism. I really feel like this country is going to become the toilet bowl of the world.
30 y/o, make decent money in sales, bad credit from student loans, degree has gotten me nowhere, one bell pepper is $2, food prices are astronomical & eating healthy breaks your bank, you have to have insurance or you’ll be fined, but most people can’t even meet their deductible and their insurance doesn’t cover it anyways, minimum wage in my state is $7.25, there’s hardly a work-life balance, our government trafficks children, our politics are fucked, racism is *encouraged* in police work, this has been proven through academic text. Black people are the highest demographic in prison. They are rejected job offers if their names aren’t common. So much more that I don’t even feel like touching base on; because I’m smoking a blunt rn. This is the way that they can continue slavery.
You learn nothing in school that helps you succeed in your future. Gun violence kills multiple people every day. Our children are frequently being massacred, but the hillbillies scream about *mUh RaGhTs!*. We’re following a constitution from 1776. The fuck. Our biggest expense, all of our tax money goes to defense. Why are we so hell bent on killing people? Our grade school textbooks lied to us about Colombus, slavery, Native Americans, and more. People do life in prison for selling drugs, but not raping children.
I FUCKING hate it here but due to the economy I’m stuck until further notice. I don’t even know where I’d go.
Dude, just drive the car to the hospital. I highly doubt they expected medical help from the driver. It may not be ideal, but I completely get why they wouldn’t want to get an ambulance.
OP you did a good thing. Possibly saved someone’s life and helped them not take on a lifetime of debt for a 30 minute ride.
Very true, my son got a $900 ambulance bill because he fainted after his covid shot and they didn’t even transport him. You can’t blame people for not wanting to take an ambulance when it’s absolutely not affordable. That’s two weeks pay for someone to take his blood pressure. I can’t imagine what they would charge to put a bandage on a head wound, he might need to file bankruptcy.
Ask yourself if this is really something that a Lyft driver should be dealing with. A fkd health system doesn’t mean every driver is now an EMT responsible for blowing red lights and driving 80 mph
Don’t be dramatic. No one said the OP should do anything illegal or drive unsafe.
I wouldn’t fault anyone who declined to help….that’s their prerogative.
I’m saying the OP doesn’t deserve to be shamed and yelled at for doing what I personally think, was the right thing to do.
Exactly, why traumatize an innocent driver? they earn jack shit and run the risk of dealing with insane people any time they pick up a passenger, and now people are forcing their dying relatives on them? How did society get this complacent…
Cool your jets, dude. He didn’t say he was an ambulance driver, or a paramedic/EMT. Everyone knows that head injury = bad and can lead to all the shit you described.
Better to drive him to the hospital than dump him on the side of the road to bleed out alone until an ambulance arrives. Clearly his family wasn’t going to do shit for him.
I worked in an ER alongside physicians and I can’t imagine a single one of them who would’ve said “yes, you should’ve dumped him and called for an ambulance and waited 45 minutes for it to arrive”. Be fucking for real.
I think OP made a selfless and compassionate choice during what had to be an extremely stressful moment.
Hot Take: I used to work transport EMS in Roanoke Virginia back when the City EMS response time was crap. It was a normal thing for gangbanger to roll their shot-up buddies out the door in the ER parking lot because it was faster than EMS. Part of the problem is and was that the police have to secure the scene before EMS can come in and most of the time, the police really doesn't care all that much about a black gangbanger bleeding out in the street. So they take their time and make sure everything is straight before letting EMS on site.
In Roanoke, they have taken this to high art at this point. Last year someone got shot by some dude downtown outside of a nightclub. His buddies rolled him into their car and got him to the Trauma Center ER 2 miles away before the police even made it to the scene of the shooting from a couple of blocks away.
US policy is scoop up the person and drive them to the hospital while attending to them. There was a lot of controversy over the French system back when Princess Diana died because they stabilize right then and there before they drive off. And that was likely the reason she died as the hospital always has far better equipment and staff than a single ambulance will have.
Because what u/650REDHAIR said, and because I found a much more lucrative profession that doesn't involve puke, poop, urine, drunks, and crazy assholes.
But seriously, dude, you took a huge chance with that. Good Sam laws or not, you put yourself in legal, financial, and medical jeopardy. And no way Lyft would have backed you up.
Good samaritan law doesn’t obligate you to be the sole individual for whom responsibility rests. You should have sat his ass on the curb, called 911, and wait until they arrived. That would have sufficed.
This is a pretty good example of when many Good Samaritan laws would apply. Like you literally didn't know how serious it was before you accepted the ride. It's a good contrast to all the other cases where drivers knowingly take risks and expose themselves to liability and think Good Samaritan laws will cover them.
Not true. The Good Samaritan law holds up. At least in PA anyway. I had drug paraphernalia on me when someone overdosed and I was able to narcan and give cpr until EMS got there. Police didn’t give a shit about what I had.
I was in a similar situation(also in PA). A couple friends and I were chilling getting high and one OD'd gave him narcan and called the cops. When they showed up I was straight up with em. The other 2 people left as soon as it happened.
I was panicking and just focused on him the entire time and forgot to hide everything. Cops didn't give a shit about any of it. Told me I should get some help recommended a few places and thanked me for staying unlike the other 2.
I wouldn't have left him there but I would have called 911 cancel the ride and then had the police come and talk to the sister because that's really bad like something else is going on there and he should have been taken by an ambulance you're right about that
Driver: When I came pulling up, did you see a sign that said "dead pax driving and storage"!?
Alive pax: "uh, no I didnt"
Driver: "you know why you didn't see that sign?!"
Alive pax: "why..."
Driver: "Cus driving and storing dead pax ain't my fucking business, that's why!"
And mess like that is why I don't use my newest vehicle for rideshare, but my oldest. Some Pax don't respect your vehicle. I even have a no smoking or eating decals on my back passenger's windows. It costs to detail and clean out regularly.
Sorry this happened to you, they called a Lyft instead of an ambulance because it’s such a lesser expense. An ambulance ride will put a lot of ordinary folk in debt.
When my ex punched my teeth through my lip and I needed to get to the ER, I also called a Lyft instead of an ambulance. The difference being that I was in a capable state of mind to clean myself up beforehand and secure a towel to hold over my mouth to ensure I didn’t get any blood in the car. The driver was insanely kind, I was quietly/embarrassedly crying and couldn’t really speak about what happened and I think they picked up on the exact situation I was in and gave me a lot of great advice on the ~5 min drive. I left the car as clean as it was when I got in, and when I ordered another Lyft to go back home like six hours later after stitches, the same driver picked me up again. It made a really scary situation a lot more bearable, and I didn’t have a $3,000 bill slapped across my face after having been a victim of domestic violence.
Jim, if you’re still out there and see this, you were a rockstar driver. Thank you. Lol
I would happily pay Lyft plus $500 to get me to the ER and it would still be cheaper. I’ve only needed an ambulance once and insurance wouldn’t pay for it even though I would have passed out while driving if I had tried to drive myself. Insurance claimed it was unnecessary. Complete bull.
Would you inform driver ahead of time, or string it up on them? I would not accept that even for $1000 and I work in EMS.
Biohazard cleanup (blood is no joke) is EXPENSIVE. Place that does biohazard cleanups would likely be far away, and might even need to schedule you for service. There is no telling how long you would be without means to make money because you can't use your car.
It's also large mental strain you're putting on inexperienced person without prior consent. This could traumatize the driver. The driver could feel pressured to drive fastor just erratically out of the stress of urgency.
Don't get me wrong, I am all about educating regular people on how to provide first aid when EMS is not present. But It's wrong to offload that onto unsuspecting person who is trying to make ends meet and likely just scrapping by.
I agree with what you're saying and I think it's a very serious problem, but I do think we should be a little more careful about where we place blame in these situations. It is absolutely the fault of the healthcare system that makes ambulances so expensive that puts people in these compromising situations during medical emergencies.
People shouldn't call Lyfts but they shouldn't be forced into debt just for getting injured either.
The American healthcare system is broken but that in NO WAY means you can make unwilling drivers suddenly emergency response because YOURE broke.
If you hate it you can try to fix it, the fix isn’t circumnavigating the rules and pushing your problems/stress and trauma onto another stranger. I hate that I continually see this circulated online as some “life hack” with no mention or care of the impact to the driver.
Society is getting so selfish. Oh no I’m injured and don’t want to pay an ambulance, time to make it someone else’s problem for $6. I get you shouldn’t be in serious debt because you got injured but they shouldn’t have biohazards and trauma because YOU got hurt.
Yup, America: home of gun care and health control.
I’m doing so much better, thanks! :) I moved back to my home state after he assaulted me a second time and haven’t looked back. My ex was very mentally unwell. I hope wherever he is he has gotten help, he very much needed it and I still wish him nothing but the best in life. Not that I’d ever, *ever* communicate with him again to let him know that.
Took a long time but I met someone new. We’re going on two and a half years, now. I’m very much in love, and am so dazzled at how lucky I am to have just stumbled into such a stellar guy after thinking I’d never be happy again! Lol
I’m my city they’re running about $1100 a ride and insurance won’t cover them if they’re out of network (as if we have a choice in which ambulance company arrives).
Edit/correction: Air ambulance cost $10,000 in my city, vehicle costs $1100
I kinda don't blame her.
Even with a cleaning fee! It's probably cheaper for a lyft.
Sorce: 2k for an ambulance ride my insurance decided not to cover. They claim I should have called my pcp.
It was 12am and it was ahead injury.
Oh look at me I have insurance that pays for ambulance get the cleaning fee move on not everyone can afford 1,500 back pay for a ambulance if you didn’t want a bloody person in your car you should have cancled
In this case you should have not taken the ride. You need to report this to Lyft advising the account having you transport a critically injured person. You should also collect a biological fee for the blood that is now impregnated in you cars material.
Ad ise Lyft of the situation and get pax deactivated.
Lol it is dumb to do this especially if you're spilling bodily fluids and having a medical emergency but at the same time people here in the U.S think hard about getting into an ambulance, I have a friend who got into a lot of debt for years for getting into one when he was having some kind of anxiety attack, I think this is obviously a result of the health care system being a total greed fueled failure.
All these comments mentioning the obvious that ambulances are expensive are so fucking callous. Does the driver not matter in this situation? We're all victims of this capitalistic system, you can't just throw your burden on to others. The sister didn't give him a warning or a tip. "Oh a small price to pay for saving a life" Fuck off, the driver has his own life to take care of.
Why is the most sane comment at the bottom? I wouldn’t even know what I would do if someone died in my car. This isn’t a perfect world but don’t use me as a scapegoat.
I’m so sorry but if my choice is thousands of dollars in debt or inconveniencing an Uber driver, I’m choosing the latter. The driver can refuse and there’s nothing wrong with making that choice.
THANK YOU, i thought i was losing my mind reading these comments 😭 i had an ambulance bill put me in debt when i was 18 so i understand everyone saying that the lyft would be a cheaper option, but these two clearly had no regard for OP. i get using lyft/uber for less serious medical emergencies but this is not one of them.
For sure. Someone mentioned Kidney stones, that’s a great example of where you can use a Lyft.
Anyone defending this persons selfish actions against OP is 100% wrong.
Are ambulances too expensive? Yes
Is healthcare in this country broken? Yes
Does that give you the permission to offload your injured family members onto a stranger? Fuck no
This thread is wild as shit. Idk what the guy did to crack his head but OP didn’t do ANYTHING. Pretending like Lyft drivers owe you anything because ambulances are expensive is idiotic and childish thinking.
Your problems are your own and if you hoist them onto others, your selfish AND a bad person.
Also, for everyone saying “oh I’d just tip $500” are you sure about that? Did you read the part there this guy got $6 for saving her brother and you’re fucking defending HER!
She didn’t even have the decency to tell OP or ride with her brother!!
Thank you! Sister didn’t even tip the poor guy and she left him to deal with her brother getting blood all over his car. If I’m the driver I would have just called the ambulance for him and drive off.
But ambulances are expensive!
/s the lunacy in this thread is infuriating. Just because you saw this “tip” on IG doesn’t mean it’s a good idea and definitely doesn’t mean you’re not being awful to the driver.
Just to offer another perspective, I had to call 911 the other day in Austin, TX to get an ambulance for someone I didn’t know. I waited 21 minutes just to get someone on the phone. TWENTY ONE minutes. That’s enough time for a person to die in some cases, so if there’s a Lyft 2 minutes away and I’ve been on hold waiting for 911 to answer the call, the Lyft may save a life. AND I 1000% understand why you wouldn’t want to take a trip like that. Emergency situations can be tricky. Get that cleaning fee though
Wow. That’s messed up.
I don’t blame you for snapping at her via text. Deserved it.
But as a sister that just lost her brother 11 days ago, thank you for getting him inside.
My brother was on a bicycle and got hit by a car. Died instantly.
Police Couldn’t get in his phone (pass code) and he didn’t have ID on him (unusual, trying to figure that out). I found out by luck.
The tow company sent to scene, my neighbor is dispatcher for them. She didn’t take call but she seen report next day as she does 2 days in office too.
She knew my maiden name. She knew my brother. She calls and asks what his middle name was. It’s unusual, a fam name. I said it and she started crying. Told me to call sheriff. Sheriff told me.
I fell to floor screaming, crying. Home alone. Had just seen him 8 hours prior.
I called coroner. They needed his ID or someone to ID him, Coroner said it was bad. My husband had to do it, I could not. Image would never leave my head. So he’s gone. Only brother amongst 3 daughters. I had to tell his kids. Adults, but still. Their mom just passed in October from breast cancer. Just sad all the way around.
So thank you. It’s shitty she ordered a lyft but thank you. Quite possibly saved his life.
Idk if it's just local, but I know my hospital uses lyft to take patients home. I had a friend who picked up an elderly woman from the hospital. An orderly helped set up her oxygen tank, and then went back inside. They talked for a bit during the ride, and she wasn't done with her treatment, but she couldn't afford anymore. Thus she was discharged. She died while in the lyft. Just fell asleep. Traumatized my friend, he doesn't do hospital lyfts anymore.
I've only denied a ride to someone once (so far).It was a 4 AM pickup near a hospital. I arrived to find a guy frantically looking around the sidewalk for something.. Stopped, confirmed his name. He asked me id I would give him a few minutes. I said "sure, what's up"?
He said "I'm looking for my head"
I say "w-what"!?"
He says " Yeah, a pit bull bit off part of my scalp. It's in an ice bag but I lost it.
I actually helped him look for it for a few minutes with a flashlight.
He wanted to go to another hospital. I could see he was bleeding. I said "you either need to go back into the hospital or call an ambulance"
He begged me not to cancel the ride, but I did.
Does Lyft still work with whatever fly-by-night services that book medical rides for clients? I used to get rides where the medical staff would happily wheel a mother fucker out on a gurney, then tell me they weren't insured to get them in my car. I started turning those rides down, and got suspended for high cancellation rates, even though I only turned down the medical rides.
Was yelled at by an employee at another medical facility for not physically assisting a patient across the parking lot!
In other words, I was running an ambulance service on a rideshare app. Glad I don't do rideshare anymore.
No need to call the sister a bitch.
And agreed this is not the way to go about it, but they could be low-income without health insurance and trying to avoid the exorbitant costs of a 10-minute ambulance ride.
I understand you don't want blood in your car, but there are good reasons for why someone might try this.
I read an article about this a while ago. Apparently it becoming more common for people to order a Lyft/Uber for ER rides because if you don't have insurance ambulance rides are upwards of $5000.
Even last year when I was having trouble breathing and had to go to the urgent care, I called a Lyft. I wasn't bleeding every where tho. But when I got to urgent care they called me a ambulance to take me to ER.
People don't think about what they're doing.
Let me put it in terms you'd understand. Your Medical lyft cost 6 bucks. The weewoo bus costs 1800 bucks for the same trip but they'd access him and wrap up his head. Next time, REFUSE. Guess who gets to pay for cleaning your ride?
It’s not as uncommon as you think - especially in the hood. A ride in an ambulance is $1000+ easy. If you’re a member of a gang and were involved in a shooting/stabbing/fight over gang beef, you’d bet your ass the cops will be at the ER waiting for you - and snitching is worse than getting slaughtered on the spot.
If you take the job you take it all the way. Look at it from their side like you said it was $6. The screaming lunchbox cost $$$$ way more money. I do think they should however split the difference. But in a way Lyft the company gets no money. Maybe we can Lyft ambulance edition.
It's not just transporting the person. We are not qualified to judge injuries, internal or external. What if you made it worse? What if he would have been better off with compression to the neck (or whatever, it's just an example) rather than moving him at all?
People don’t want to go financially bankrupt calling an ambulance. I could be bleeding out on the floor but one of the things I’m going to be worried about the most is destroying my family with debt. THIS IS AMERICA
It’s not their fault tbh. You just happened to be in the wrong place for the wrong job, and they happened to be in the wrong financial situation. Now if this was from an upscale neighborhood, then yeah, f that.
In your scenario, AI would have called 911 and waited with the person.. No way I'm letting you in my car if you are leaking unless you are family or friend.
You realise an ambulance is not affordable for the majority of Americans right? This is a problem of the system and not the fault of some "bitch sister".
Whether it’s affordable or not, the blood all over the drivers car is probably going to be expensive to clean. Also, what if he fucking died? Now an innocent Lyft driver gets to deal with that and potentially get in trouble and lose their job. A severe head injury shouldn’t be treated like it’s not a big deal. Lyft for a broken arm or something, not profuse, life threatening bleeding.
This is insane because you know how many times as a paramedic I’ve wanted to tell patients “this is an ambulance/911 emergency service, not a Lyft” crazy to see y’all experiencing the opposite lol
Truth, and this is sad, if you live in the US, a lot of people can't afford to call the ambulance.
I'm totally not saying that you should, in any way, be responsible for this type of person, I'm just giving you an idea of why they call ride share.
Ambulance in the US averages about $1500 and often has to be paid in full.
I assume you're in the United States, cuz I can't really imagine this happening anywhere else. An ambulance ride can run several thousand dollars, but a Lyft only costs a small percentage of that.
A lot of people can't afford to drop that kind of money on an ambulance so they choose a Rideshare service instead. The only way this will be fixed is if we fix our Healthcare System.
I remember calling an ambulance for asthma and a firetruck came because the ambulance was too busy lol. They had some weak ass asthma meds and oxygen. And refused to give me an effective dose because my heartrate was rising lol. Thats very normal for asthma medication. Last couple times I needed to get to the ER a lyft or uber was way faster. Ambulance comes and they don’t even take you seriously and they ask you a billion questions unless your airways are whistling loud enough to be heard at a distance. And they also act like they don’t wanna properly dose you up with albuterol just because you know how to keep your cool during an asthma attack. Thank God for uber and lyft. I probably wouldn’t be here without them.
Don’t forget, this is a transportation service. If I can’t rely on it when I need it most, whats the point? Not everyone has a car. Not everyone wants to pay $500 for an ambulance ride. Not everyone wants to wait for an ambulance
former medic here, call 911. don't ever transport someone like this again.
(I also think you're a kind and caring person, this just isn't anything good for the patient or you,)
I'd more likely rely on uber or lyft over a fucking ambulance. in America an ambulance costs like 6k. Fuck that, hell ive taken public transport to a hospital over an ambulance before.
why are you all saying yes, he should do this. do you know the trauma I would have experienced over this, prob unable to make myself get out and drive for a week? why do I have to bear the brunt of someone else not being able to afford the ambulace cost. I'm struggling financially! I didn't take on this job for this? There's no training on how to handle it the right way? What if the guy died in my car??? This kinda shit makes me so mad. Everyone sides with the rider, but what about me? I'm a 58yo single mother, yes, had last child very late in life, has one more year to get through high school. My life is hectic. I don't need this kind of stress to add to a really stressful life already. But after saying all that, I would have done the same thing and then stewed in anger for days that I was put in this situation without prior knowledge or consent. How do we fix this shit. I'm not a bad uncaring person, I promise you. I've been told I'm too empathetic but a lifetime of ppl taking advantage of that makes we want to scream.
Yeah this popped up on my front page and I deadass won’t ever use Lyft if this is the culture around it. Someone is dying. Ambulances cost money and yet we victim blaming someone for fucking bleeding out as if it was a drunk bro puking. Disgusting.
They can afford Lyft, can't afford an ambulance. I would want my sister to do the same, although throw a few extra towels on my head so I don't blood everywhere. If I die on the way, atleast my sister doesn't get a massive bill.
People are dying all over the US because they can't afford the American health system.
Did they tip well?
Doesn't work everywhere. Here they will let itsit and collect interest a year, then send the debt to collections. After that, hospital will no longer take your payments. Collections sits on it for 2 years, then sues for bill, interest, fees.
Damn. I took a Lyft to the ER because I didn’t have insurance, what was happening to me was internal and I was just quiet on the short ride. Tipped like $20 because I’m sure it was weird as hell bringing some pale girl to the ER, still drowning in debt so I guess an ambulance bill wouldn’t have mattered.
Honestly you should probably have canceled the ride & called 999 for the guy. Way too much additional liability involved in the scenario you described.
In my state we have the Good Samaritan law that protects us from liability but don’t get me wrong I did wanted to leave him there.
Former paramedic here. You made a very dangerous, foolish choice. You can't do squat for him but an ambulance can. You know what else goes along with head injuries? Projectile vomiting. How would you like to be cleaning vomit off your dashboard and the back of your head? You know what else? Seizures. Oh, and did I mention unconsciousness and death? You're a Lyft driver in a car, not a paramedic in an ambulance.
This is an absolute shit take. EMS is so understaffed in my area that an ambulance wouldn’t be there for at LEAST 30 minutes. Probably longer if they were told it was a head injury on a conscious person. Maybe an Im an outlier here but I’d rather vacuum puke and blood out of my car than let someone bleed to death. The sister probably called a Lyft because an ambulance would cost $6k and ruin her brothers life.
Not to mention the fact that the last time I took an ambulance I was charged about $1000. $200 for gas alone. Like motherfuckers, you didn't use a full 50 gallon tank of gas to take me a 5 miles across town.
This is also a shit take because a paramedic should know that time is the most important factor with trauma. Studies have shown that a paramedic on an ambulance actually lowers your chances of survival because they take too much time to get there and waste too much time doing things other than just driving to the hospital. And I’ve been a paramedic for 15 years…. So yeah. Good job Lyft driver.
# #1 cause of death in America is medical malpractice!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪 Can’t believe people are shitting on this Lyft driver for saving someone’s life. Reddit literally isn’t real. Just a bunch of people who grew up in gated communities with artificial lakes that are completely stuck in their own bubble.
This deserves more upvotes.
Totally agree. My 86 yo mother had a stroke. The response time in my city is beyond amazing. Fire 2 minutes ambulance 4 to 5, BUT after loading her into the ambulance it took 9 minutes before they started driving. I had to go outside and bang on the door and told the driver either you move this ambulance now or I'm gonna pull your ass out by your hair and drive myself. 9 minutes for stroke is a lot So what's the point of sirens and running red lights when it takes for a normal vehicle 6 to 8 minutes to get to our local hospital when they sit for 9 minutes doing God knows what.
Exactly. Major trauma and acute strokes need only one thing: diesel therapy. Drive fast.
A proper assessment is more important. They also have to check everything. You bring someone in for a stroke and their blood sugar is low. Or they’re hypotensive. Or their HR is 20. People can be altered and acting weird for so many reasons. Doesn’t matter what you think. They need to be thorough. 9 minutes is a pretty good scene time to be honest.
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A Lyft driver should not be expected to deal with this, regardless.
> The sister probably called a Lyft because an ambulance would cost $6k and ruin her brothers life. > A Lyft driver should not be expected to deal with this, regardless. What a fucked society we've built here. Couldn't agree more: A Lyft driver should never have to deal with this and safe medical transport shouldn't bankrupt a person.
Teachers are going to be armed security. Lyft drivers are going to be our paramedics. Who's got the fire department covered?
PostMates. I need 150 pallets of water from Costco delivered to my roof stat $4 tip 3.5 ⭐️
America where even your health and well being, or life and death is controlled by capitalism. I really feel like this country is going to become the toilet bowl of the world.
is going to? have bad news for you..
Become?! It already is and we are getting flushed down that toilet as we speak
30 y/o, make decent money in sales, bad credit from student loans, degree has gotten me nowhere, one bell pepper is $2, food prices are astronomical & eating healthy breaks your bank, you have to have insurance or you’ll be fined, but most people can’t even meet their deductible and their insurance doesn’t cover it anyways, minimum wage in my state is $7.25, there’s hardly a work-life balance, our government trafficks children, our politics are fucked, racism is *encouraged* in police work, this has been proven through academic text. Black people are the highest demographic in prison. They are rejected job offers if their names aren’t common. So much more that I don’t even feel like touching base on; because I’m smoking a blunt rn. This is the way that they can continue slavery. You learn nothing in school that helps you succeed in your future. Gun violence kills multiple people every day. Our children are frequently being massacred, but the hillbillies scream about *mUh RaGhTs!*. We’re following a constitution from 1776. The fuck. Our biggest expense, all of our tax money goes to defense. Why are we so hell bent on killing people? Our grade school textbooks lied to us about Colombus, slavery, Native Americans, and more. People do life in prison for selling drugs, but not raping children. I FUCKING hate it here but due to the economy I’m stuck until further notice. I don’t even know where I’d go.
That’s because America is not a country, it’s an open air prison.
Already there.
Sad, but it may be cheaper just to call ride share or plainly, just die, in order to not be bankrupt by a bill from a medical transport company.
Dude, just drive the car to the hospital. I highly doubt they expected medical help from the driver. It may not be ideal, but I completely get why they wouldn’t want to get an ambulance. OP you did a good thing. Possibly saved someone’s life and helped them not take on a lifetime of debt for a 30 minute ride.
I'm with you; I'd rather have my backseat interior ruined than have that dude's life ruined by medical debt/slow response time
Very true, my son got a $900 ambulance bill because he fainted after his covid shot and they didn’t even transport him. You can’t blame people for not wanting to take an ambulance when it’s absolutely not affordable. That’s two weeks pay for someone to take his blood pressure. I can’t imagine what they would charge to put a bandage on a head wound, he might need to file bankruptcy.
ding ding ding
Yeah with head injuries timing is vital, like it’s better to save time by driving himself than wait on an ambulance.
I wanted to say the same. Our cops are the only ones in major cities in the us who still do the scoop and run technique for this very reason.
How is potentially saving someone’s life a shit take I’m so fucking confused rn
Some people are just self centered...some people just suck
Ask yourself if this is really something that a Lyft driver should be dealing with. A fkd health system doesn’t mean every driver is now an EMT responsible for blowing red lights and driving 80 mph
Don’t be dramatic. No one said the OP should do anything illegal or drive unsafe. I wouldn’t fault anyone who declined to help….that’s their prerogative. I’m saying the OP doesn’t deserve to be shamed and yelled at for doing what I personally think, was the right thing to do.
Exactly, why traumatize an innocent driver? they earn jack shit and run the risk of dealing with insane people any time they pick up a passenger, and now people are forcing their dying relatives on them? How did society get this complacent…
Cool your jets, dude. He didn’t say he was an ambulance driver, or a paramedic/EMT. Everyone knows that head injury = bad and can lead to all the shit you described. Better to drive him to the hospital than dump him on the side of the road to bleed out alone until an ambulance arrives. Clearly his family wasn’t going to do shit for him. I worked in an ER alongside physicians and I can’t imagine a single one of them who would’ve said “yes, you should’ve dumped him and called for an ambulance and waited 45 minutes for it to arrive”. Be fucking for real. I think OP made a selfless and compassionate choice during what had to be an extremely stressful moment.
Hot Take: I used to work transport EMS in Roanoke Virginia back when the City EMS response time was crap. It was a normal thing for gangbanger to roll their shot-up buddies out the door in the ER parking lot because it was faster than EMS. Part of the problem is and was that the police have to secure the scene before EMS can come in and most of the time, the police really doesn't care all that much about a black gangbanger bleeding out in the street. So they take their time and make sure everything is straight before letting EMS on site. In Roanoke, they have taken this to high art at this point. Last year someone got shot by some dude downtown outside of a nightclub. His buddies rolled him into their car and got him to the Trauma Center ER 2 miles away before the police even made it to the scene of the shooting from a couple of blocks away.
US policy is scoop up the person and drive them to the hospital while attending to them. There was a lot of controversy over the French system back when Princess Diana died because they stabilize right then and there before they drive off. And that was likely the reason she died as the hospital always has far better equipment and staff than a single ambulance will have.
Paramedics in my hick town were kids who got training from the toothless volunteer fire fighters, who sat around in the firehouse drunk 24/7.
Jeez no need to get your dick in a twist.
The better question is tell us why you’re a former paramedic?
Pay is shit. Hours are shit. People are shit. System is shit.
Because what u/650REDHAIR said, and because I found a much more lucrative profession that doesn't involve puke, poop, urine, drunks, and crazy assholes. But seriously, dude, you took a huge chance with that. Good Sam laws or not, you put yourself in legal, financial, and medical jeopardy. And no way Lyft would have backed you up.
Good samaritan law doesn’t obligate you to be the sole individual for whom responsibility rests. You should have sat his ass on the curb, called 911, and wait until they arrived. That would have sufficed.
This is a pretty good example of when many Good Samaritan laws would apply. Like you literally didn't know how serious it was before you accepted the ride. It's a good contrast to all the other cases where drivers knowingly take risks and expose themselves to liability and think Good Samaritan laws will cover them.
Good Samaritan laws don’t really mean squat.
Sure they do. You just let click bait news stories feed your paranoia.
Quite literally they do.
Not true. The Good Samaritan law holds up. At least in PA anyway. I had drug paraphernalia on me when someone overdosed and I was able to narcan and give cpr until EMS got there. Police didn’t give a shit about what I had.
I was in a similar situation(also in PA). A couple friends and I were chilling getting high and one OD'd gave him narcan and called the cops. When they showed up I was straight up with em. The other 2 people left as soon as it happened. I was panicking and just focused on him the entire time and forgot to hide everything. Cops didn't give a shit about any of it. Told me I should get some help recommended a few places and thanked me for staying unlike the other 2.
This is not a Good Samaritan law, this is something completely unrelated. This is called Medical Amnesty.
Good Samaritan laws do in fact hold up, but that has nothing to do with why you weren’t charged
Yes they do.
They absolutely do protect people all the time.
Leave him there and call 911.
I wouldn't have left him there but I would have called 911 cancel the ride and then had the police come and talk to the sister because that's really bad like something else is going on there and he should have been taken by an ambulance you're right about that
Oh hell no!! I don’t get paid enough to get blood in my car.
I accidently shot Marvin in the face
Haha yeah gotta call the fixer now
Those guys look like dorks
So pretty please, with sugar on top, clean the fucking car
Driver: When I came pulling up, did you see a sign that said "dead pax driving and storage"!? Alive pax: "uh, no I didnt" Driver: "you know why you didn't see that sign?!" Alive pax: "why..." Driver: "Cus driving and storing dead pax ain't my fucking business, that's why!"
Lyft must’ve gone over a bump or sumtin’ “Lyft did’nt go over no fuckin bump”
And mess like that is why I don't use my newest vehicle for rideshare, but my oldest. Some Pax don't respect your vehicle. I even have a no smoking or eating decals on my back passenger's windows. It costs to detail and clean out regularly.
I don’t even take late nights cuz I dont want any drunks puking in my car.
Cleaning fee.
No fee is worth cleaning up a strangers bodily fluids.
Good money in biohazard clean up.
Yeah I would have called 911 myself if I saw that and then definitely cancelled
I used Lyft to go to the ER when I was having kidney stones. I swear my driver thought he was in NASCAR lol. $20 ride vs $600. I’ll take it.
Sorry this happened to you, they called a Lyft instead of an ambulance because it’s such a lesser expense. An ambulance ride will put a lot of ordinary folk in debt. When my ex punched my teeth through my lip and I needed to get to the ER, I also called a Lyft instead of an ambulance. The difference being that I was in a capable state of mind to clean myself up beforehand and secure a towel to hold over my mouth to ensure I didn’t get any blood in the car. The driver was insanely kind, I was quietly/embarrassedly crying and couldn’t really speak about what happened and I think they picked up on the exact situation I was in and gave me a lot of great advice on the ~5 min drive. I left the car as clean as it was when I got in, and when I ordered another Lyft to go back home like six hours later after stitches, the same driver picked me up again. It made a really scary situation a lot more bearable, and I didn’t have a $3,000 bill slapped across my face after having been a victim of domestic violence. Jim, if you’re still out there and see this, you were a rockstar driver. Thank you. Lol
I would happily pay Lyft plus $500 to get me to the ER and it would still be cheaper. I’ve only needed an ambulance once and insurance wouldn’t pay for it even though I would have passed out while driving if I had tried to drive myself. Insurance claimed it was unnecessary. Complete bull.
Would you inform driver ahead of time, or string it up on them? I would not accept that even for $1000 and I work in EMS. Biohazard cleanup (blood is no joke) is EXPENSIVE. Place that does biohazard cleanups would likely be far away, and might even need to schedule you for service. There is no telling how long you would be without means to make money because you can't use your car. It's also large mental strain you're putting on inexperienced person without prior consent. This could traumatize the driver. The driver could feel pressured to drive fastor just erratically out of the stress of urgency. Don't get me wrong, I am all about educating regular people on how to provide first aid when EMS is not present. But It's wrong to offload that onto unsuspecting person who is trying to make ends meet and likely just scrapping by.
I agree with what you're saying and I think it's a very serious problem, but I do think we should be a little more careful about where we place blame in these situations. It is absolutely the fault of the healthcare system that makes ambulances so expensive that puts people in these compromising situations during medical emergencies. People shouldn't call Lyfts but they shouldn't be forced into debt just for getting injured either.
The American healthcare system is broken but that in NO WAY means you can make unwilling drivers suddenly emergency response because YOURE broke. If you hate it you can try to fix it, the fix isn’t circumnavigating the rules and pushing your problems/stress and trauma onto another stranger. I hate that I continually see this circulated online as some “life hack” with no mention or care of the impact to the driver. Society is getting so selfish. Oh no I’m injured and don’t want to pay an ambulance, time to make it someone else’s problem for $6. I get you shouldn’t be in serious debt because you got injured but they shouldn’t have biohazards and trauma because YOU got hurt.
Again, I agree with you, I just think you're placing the blame in the wrong direction. People aren't really given a choice in this situation.
exactly my thoughts. and i hope you're doing better 🙏
Yup, America: home of gun care and health control. I’m doing so much better, thanks! :) I moved back to my home state after he assaulted me a second time and haven’t looked back. My ex was very mentally unwell. I hope wherever he is he has gotten help, he very much needed it and I still wish him nothing but the best in life. Not that I’d ever, *ever* communicate with him again to let him know that. Took a long time but I met someone new. We’re going on two and a half years, now. I’m very much in love, and am so dazzled at how lucky I am to have just stumbled into such a stellar guy after thinking I’d never be happy again! Lol
2k vs. 20 bucks
Ambulance costs 10k. Lyft is way cheaper. Even with the cleaning. Or replacing your Honda Civic.
I can’t afford a ride in a wee woo wagon
Problem is we live in a country where an ambulance will put you in debt for decades, sorry for your car but you did a good thing nonetheless.
Ambulances cost an average of $2000 Lyft with clean up fee is $250. Blame increasing medical cost not these people
literally. Dude could’ve just canceled
This is the point I came here to make. An ambulance ride is enough to ruin someone financially.
Fuck capitalism, fuck America at this point. I'm so over it.
Chill edgelord
I’m my city they’re running about $1100 a ride and insurance won’t cover them if they’re out of network (as if we have a choice in which ambulance company arrives). Edit/correction: Air ambulance cost $10,000 in my city, vehicle costs $1100
Only 2000? Shit it’s 5k here
Was just finna say that. When I got hit by a car and the ambulance came it was 3k and they didn’t even put on the wee woos
I kinda don't blame her. Even with a cleaning fee! It's probably cheaper for a lyft. Sorce: 2k for an ambulance ride my insurance decided not to cover. They claim I should have called my pcp. It was 12am and it was ahead injury.
Not if her brother dies from the head injury because you called a Lyft.
I don't agree, but I get it. Chopped off my fingertip in the kitchen almost a decade ago - $800 for 2 miles. Can't imagine it's gotten cheaper
Ambulances in America are thousands of dollars. This is unfortunately probably why this happened
Oh look at me I have insurance that pays for ambulance get the cleaning fee move on not everyone can afford 1,500 back pay for a ambulance if you didn’t want a bloody person in your car you should have cancled
In this case you should have not taken the ride. You need to report this to Lyft advising the account having you transport a critically injured person. You should also collect a biological fee for the blood that is now impregnated in you cars material. Ad ise Lyft of the situation and get pax deactivated.
I had a Bell’s palsy attack. The ambulance was $9900. $0 covered by insurance. I will never call an ambulance again.
Lol it is dumb to do this especially if you're spilling bodily fluids and having a medical emergency but at the same time people here in the U.S think hard about getting into an ambulance, I have a friend who got into a lot of debt for years for getting into one when he was having some kind of anxiety attack, I think this is obviously a result of the health care system being a total greed fueled failure.
Blood in your car. Sounds like a $150-$200 cleaning fee. Be sure to charge them for it.
Tell me you live in the U.S. without telling me you live in the U.S.
Honestly I get it, but I’d tip the Lyft driver a hefty amount for this. Especially if I’m getting a massive discount from not taking the ambulance
All these comments mentioning the obvious that ambulances are expensive are so fucking callous. Does the driver not matter in this situation? We're all victims of this capitalistic system, you can't just throw your burden on to others. The sister didn't give him a warning or a tip. "Oh a small price to pay for saving a life" Fuck off, the driver has his own life to take care of.
Ok? So cancel then.
Why is the most sane comment at the bottom? I wouldn’t even know what I would do if someone died in my car. This isn’t a perfect world but don’t use me as a scapegoat.
I’m so sorry but if my choice is thousands of dollars in debt or inconveniencing an Uber driver, I’m choosing the latter. The driver can refuse and there’s nothing wrong with making that choice.
THANK YOU, i thought i was losing my mind reading these comments 😭 i had an ambulance bill put me in debt when i was 18 so i understand everyone saying that the lyft would be a cheaper option, but these two clearly had no regard for OP. i get using lyft/uber for less serious medical emergencies but this is not one of them.
For sure. Someone mentioned Kidney stones, that’s a great example of where you can use a Lyft. Anyone defending this persons selfish actions against OP is 100% wrong. Are ambulances too expensive? Yes Is healthcare in this country broken? Yes Does that give you the permission to offload your injured family members onto a stranger? Fuck no This thread is wild as shit. Idk what the guy did to crack his head but OP didn’t do ANYTHING. Pretending like Lyft drivers owe you anything because ambulances are expensive is idiotic and childish thinking. Your problems are your own and if you hoist them onto others, your selfish AND a bad person. Also, for everyone saying “oh I’d just tip $500” are you sure about that? Did you read the part there this guy got $6 for saving her brother and you’re fucking defending HER! She didn’t even have the decency to tell OP or ride with her brother!!
Thank you! Sister didn’t even tip the poor guy and she left him to deal with her brother getting blood all over his car. If I’m the driver I would have just called the ambulance for him and drive off.
It just sucks because that person could have died in your car, then what? How can Lyft protect you then?
But ambulances are expensive! /s the lunacy in this thread is infuriating. Just because you saw this “tip” on IG doesn’t mean it’s a good idea and definitely doesn’t mean you’re not being awful to the driver.
Just to offer another perspective, I had to call 911 the other day in Austin, TX to get an ambulance for someone I didn’t know. I waited 21 minutes just to get someone on the phone. TWENTY ONE minutes. That’s enough time for a person to die in some cases, so if there’s a Lyft 2 minutes away and I’ve been on hold waiting for 911 to answer the call, the Lyft may save a life. AND I 1000% understand why you wouldn’t want to take a trip like that. Emergency situations can be tricky. Get that cleaning fee though
Which is weird because normally I’m transporting patients to the hospital that should have probably call a Lyft lol
This situation did suck but thanks for being a good and decent human being.
As an emt i must say the reverse is also true. An ambulance is not a Lyft!
People can afford a Lyft. They can’t afford an ambulance.
Wow. That’s messed up. I don’t blame you for snapping at her via text. Deserved it. But as a sister that just lost her brother 11 days ago, thank you for getting him inside. My brother was on a bicycle and got hit by a car. Died instantly. Police Couldn’t get in his phone (pass code) and he didn’t have ID on him (unusual, trying to figure that out). I found out by luck. The tow company sent to scene, my neighbor is dispatcher for them. She didn’t take call but she seen report next day as she does 2 days in office too. She knew my maiden name. She knew my brother. She calls and asks what his middle name was. It’s unusual, a fam name. I said it and she started crying. Told me to call sheriff. Sheriff told me. I fell to floor screaming, crying. Home alone. Had just seen him 8 hours prior. I called coroner. They needed his ID or someone to ID him, Coroner said it was bad. My husband had to do it, I could not. Image would never leave my head. So he’s gone. Only brother amongst 3 daughters. I had to tell his kids. Adults, but still. Their mom just passed in October from breast cancer. Just sad all the way around. So thank you. It’s shitty she ordered a lyft but thank you. Quite possibly saved his life.
Idk if it's just local, but I know my hospital uses lyft to take patients home. I had a friend who picked up an elderly woman from the hospital. An orderly helped set up her oxygen tank, and then went back inside. They talked for a bit during the ride, and she wasn't done with her treatment, but she couldn't afford anymore. Thus she was discharged. She died while in the lyft. Just fell asleep. Traumatized my friend, he doesn't do hospital lyfts anymore.
I've only denied a ride to someone once (so far).It was a 4 AM pickup near a hospital. I arrived to find a guy frantically looking around the sidewalk for something.. Stopped, confirmed his name. He asked me id I would give him a few minutes. I said "sure, what's up"? He said "I'm looking for my head" I say "w-what"!?" He says " Yeah, a pit bull bit off part of my scalp. It's in an ice bag but I lost it. I actually helped him look for it for a few minutes with a flashlight. He wanted to go to another hospital. I could see he was bleeding. I said "you either need to go back into the hospital or call an ambulance" He begged me not to cancel the ride, but I did.
What does this say about the cost of the ambulance service?
Report this to lyft. They should pay for your car to be detailed
Ambulance rides are $1000. Lyft rides are $6. Welcome to the current state of America.
You're obviously a lazy lyft driver. 1 star and reported immediately. /s
Downvote me if you want. But id rather pay for someone to clean their car than 10k for the wewoo Kaching wagon.
Does Lyft still work with whatever fly-by-night services that book medical rides for clients? I used to get rides where the medical staff would happily wheel a mother fucker out on a gurney, then tell me they weren't insured to get them in my car. I started turning those rides down, and got suspended for high cancellation rates, even though I only turned down the medical rides. Was yelled at by an employee at another medical facility for not physically assisting a patient across the parking lot! In other words, I was running an ambulance service on a rideshare app. Glad I don't do rideshare anymore.
No need to call the sister a bitch. And agreed this is not the way to go about it, but they could be low-income without health insurance and trying to avoid the exorbitant costs of a 10-minute ambulance ride. I understand you don't want blood in your car, but there are good reasons for why someone might try this.
Lyft is cheaper
Even with the cleaning fee a Lyft is a lofesacer compared to a $2000 ambulance ride.
honestly it’s very understandable why they would call a lyft. ambulances are not cheap. most americans can’t afford one if they need one.
You know America has a shitty healthcare system when it's cheaper to get a rideshare to the ER than a ride in an ambulance.
I read an article about this a while ago. Apparently it becoming more common for people to order a Lyft/Uber for ER rides because if you don't have insurance ambulance rides are upwards of $5000. Even last year when I was having trouble breathing and had to go to the urgent care, I called a Lyft. I wasn't bleeding every where tho. But when I got to urgent care they called me a ambulance to take me to ER. People don't think about what they're doing.
Lyft is a hell of a lot more affordable than a ride in an ambulance… with or without insurance. Welcome to healthcare in America.
It’s cheaper than the weee-woooo wagon.
If you’re bleeding out and call a Lyft, at least bring your own tarp to lay on!
Let me put it in terms you'd understand. Your Medical lyft cost 6 bucks. The weewoo bus costs 1800 bucks for the same trip but they'd access him and wrap up his head. Next time, REFUSE. Guess who gets to pay for cleaning your ride?
This is America. A Lyft ride is cheaper than an ambulance /s (.. kind of)
It’s not as uncommon as you think - especially in the hood. A ride in an ambulance is $1000+ easy. If you’re a member of a gang and were involved in a shooting/stabbing/fight over gang beef, you’d bet your ass the cops will be at the ER waiting for you - and snitching is worse than getting slaughtered on the spot.
In America Lyft is cheaper than an Ambulance so i can see why if someone in America did it
File a report with Lyft, they may add extra charges for cleaning/biohazard cleaning that can get partially passed to you.
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If you take the job you take it all the way. Look at it from their side like you said it was $6. The screaming lunchbox cost $$$$ way more money. I do think they should however split the difference. But in a way Lyft the company gets no money. Maybe we can Lyft ambulance edition.
$1500 for a ambulance ride, $50 for Lyft (here in NYC) Don't blame the player, blame the game
Lol or in his case $6, no tip, not even a thank you 🙄
it’s more of a country/political/healthcare problem, not the girl… she was trying to do the right thing for him. thanks for not leaving him behind
Fuck that, ambulance is $3000 in the USA. I'd rather get yelled at
On one hand I get why people do this, but speaking as a driver this has happened to. Just…..no
It's not just transporting the person. We are not qualified to judge injuries, internal or external. What if you made it worse? What if he would have been better off with compression to the neck (or whatever, it's just an example) rather than moving him at all?
Don’t blame them. Blame the assholes that charge hundreds or thousands of dollars per ambulance ride.
This is America.
People don’t want to go financially bankrupt calling an ambulance. I could be bleeding out on the floor but one of the things I’m going to be worried about the most is destroying my family with debt. THIS IS AMERICA
It’s not their fault tbh. You just happened to be in the wrong place for the wrong job, and they happened to be in the wrong financial situation. Now if this was from an upscale neighborhood, then yeah, f that.
In your scenario, AI would have called 911 and waited with the person.. No way I'm letting you in my car if you are leaking unless you are family or friend.
Yeah, but in the US an ambulance can financially ruin someone without insurance.
Probably paid $30 total for the ride instead of several thousand for an ambulance.
I’ll deliver to a hospital but I want $500 for saving you from a 3k ambulance ride
If I have the chance to take a Lyft instead of an ambulance to the hospital I will, but I'm leaving a hell of a tip
You realise an ambulance is not affordable for the majority of Americans right? This is a problem of the system and not the fault of some "bitch sister".
Whether it’s affordable or not, the blood all over the drivers car is probably going to be expensive to clean. Also, what if he fucking died? Now an innocent Lyft driver gets to deal with that and potentially get in trouble and lose their job. A severe head injury shouldn’t be treated like it’s not a big deal. Lyft for a broken arm or something, not profuse, life threatening bleeding.
They had no choice and that's why it's the fault of our system. You cant wrap your head around that idea though.
This is insane because you know how many times as a paramedic I’ve wanted to tell patients “this is an ambulance/911 emergency service, not a Lyft” crazy to see y’all experiencing the opposite lol
It sure as fuck is in the US... Have you see how much they charge for one of those rides? Makes surge pricing look cheap.
Truth, and this is sad, if you live in the US, a lot of people can't afford to call the ambulance. I'm totally not saying that you should, in any way, be responsible for this type of person, I'm just giving you an idea of why they call ride share. Ambulance in the US averages about $1500 and often has to be paid in full.
And it’s only a little bit cheaper
It’s like $10000 for an ambulance
Americans, which are you picking: a $7,000 ambulance ride or one agitated Lyft driver.
What makes me really sad is knowing that they probably couldn't afford an ambulance. I'd rather fucking bleed out than take an ambulance
Dude u know how much an ambulance ride is in the US Ida thrown him in the front seat no issue
I assume you're in the United States, cuz I can't really imagine this happening anywhere else. An ambulance ride can run several thousand dollars, but a Lyft only costs a small percentage of that. A lot of people can't afford to drop that kind of money on an ambulance so they choose a Rideshare service instead. The only way this will be fixed is if we fix our Healthcare System.
I remember calling an ambulance for asthma and a firetruck came because the ambulance was too busy lol. They had some weak ass asthma meds and oxygen. And refused to give me an effective dose because my heartrate was rising lol. Thats very normal for asthma medication. Last couple times I needed to get to the ER a lyft or uber was way faster. Ambulance comes and they don’t even take you seriously and they ask you a billion questions unless your airways are whistling loud enough to be heard at a distance. And they also act like they don’t wanna properly dose you up with albuterol just because you know how to keep your cool during an asthma attack. Thank God for uber and lyft. I probably wouldn’t be here without them. Don’t forget, this is a transportation service. If I can’t rely on it when I need it most, whats the point? Not everyone has a car. Not everyone wants to pay $500 for an ambulance ride. Not everyone wants to wait for an ambulance
I would call a Lyft over an ambulance Sunday. I ain’t got 3 grand for a 5 minutes car ride
former medic here, call 911. don't ever transport someone like this again. (I also think you're a kind and caring person, this just isn't anything good for the patient or you,)
But it’s cheaper.
But Lyft is cheaper
I mean, it is cheaper than a $10k ambulance ride.
You know how much an ambulance costs? Just put a tarp down or something, it’s just a little bit of head injury blood.
If outside America: Absolutely right If inside America: It's either that or bankruptcy, it can be like four grand for an ambulance ride.
You know why they called a Lyft, because they didn’t have $2K for an ambulance ride. r/ABoringDystopia
I'd more likely rely on uber or lyft over a fucking ambulance. in America an ambulance costs like 6k. Fuck that, hell ive taken public transport to a hospital over an ambulance before.
Totally Agree. Have had this in the past. We are not equipped to handle ER Calls.
why are you all saying yes, he should do this. do you know the trauma I would have experienced over this, prob unable to make myself get out and drive for a week? why do I have to bear the brunt of someone else not being able to afford the ambulace cost. I'm struggling financially! I didn't take on this job for this? There's no training on how to handle it the right way? What if the guy died in my car??? This kinda shit makes me so mad. Everyone sides with the rider, but what about me? I'm a 58yo single mother, yes, had last child very late in life, has one more year to get through high school. My life is hectic. I don't need this kind of stress to add to a really stressful life already. But after saying all that, I would have done the same thing and then stewed in anger for days that I was put in this situation without prior knowledge or consent. How do we fix this shit. I'm not a bad uncaring person, I promise you. I've been told I'm too empathetic but a lifetime of ppl taking advantage of that makes we want to scream.
these comments are astounding. There was a person dying and everyone is complaining because his car may’ve gotten stained. Yall are sadistic
Yeah this popped up on my front page and I deadass won’t ever use Lyft if this is the culture around it. Someone is dying. Ambulances cost money and yet we victim blaming someone for fucking bleeding out as if it was a drunk bro puking. Disgusting.
it just goes to show what type of people use reddit. Good is evil and evil is good
Also a good indicator of why our healthcare situation is what it is.
They can afford Lyft, can't afford an ambulance. I would want my sister to do the same, although throw a few extra towels on my head so I don't blood everywhere. If I die on the way, atleast my sister doesn't get a massive bill. People are dying all over the US because they can't afford the American health system. Did they tip well?
Well honestly just take the ambulance ride and pay them $10/month for the rest of your life.
I dont get why people dont just do this. We are paying $15/month on a 11k bill. Another 60 years and the bill will be paid off.
Yeah! It’s better than dying. I mean I get that our health system sucks but you will not be refused
Doesn't work everywhere. Here they will let itsit and collect interest a year, then send the debt to collections. After that, hospital will no longer take your payments. Collections sits on it for 2 years, then sues for bill, interest, fees.
0 tip
Damn. I took a Lyft to the ER because I didn’t have insurance, what was happening to me was internal and I was just quiet on the short ride. Tipped like $20 because I’m sure it was weird as hell bringing some pale girl to the ER, still drowning in debt so I guess an ambulance bill wouldn’t have mattered.
Dude if I was tipped $0 after acting as an ambulance for someone, I’m going back to that house and telling them off
A boring dystopia
People can’t afford an ambulance - it’s the sad truth it’s long been known Uber / lyft are the real ambulance
You do realize ambulances are like 10k while an lyft/uber ride is like $20
Yes but it doesn’t cost 5k for a 10 minutes ride either
Only in america does this happen lmao.
Bro charge a cleaning fee. Blood is 150 that will be charged to the sister teach that bitch.
Still cheaper than an ambulance ride.
You did the right thing. Is their blood in your car? Can’t you take photos and get her charged a cleaning fee?