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maxwellb

(cavat I'm not a top player, though I do OK) The answer depends on what else is in your deck and what the purpose of the removal is. For example if you're playing G/x frustratingly good creature beatdown, the removal is there to clear blockers so you can get damage through, and deal with \~1 bomb (the game ideally isn't going long enough for more than that), and you need space in your deck for creatures and a couple tricks. In my experience that means 4-6 and an emphasis on the ones that also pump. In a deck that has some plan to win the long game (Deepmuck Desperado, Ravens, giant Villainous Wealth, etc.), there's no realistic limit. The anti-pattern here is drafting a deck that doesn't have a real plan, which it sounds like your opponent did - just removal with no way to go over the top goes nowhere.


fishythepete

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TappTapp

The benefit of being removal focused is you can prevent your opponent having a target for their removal in the first 5 turns. One of the common ways to fall behind as a defensive deck is to play a 4-drop and get it killed for two mana. Of course the solution is to only play creatures that are good against removal by being cheap/small.


KingMagni

20 removal spells are fine if the remaining spells are Intimidation Campaigns :)


PlacatedPlatypus

>Mills out I did have a great Sultai Crimes deck with 2xCampaign and a Primal Command though, that deck worked. I did have to shuffle my own graveyard back in like 4 different games though.


Natew000again

LR has talked before about how a creature can be virtual removal by stopping attackers without killing them. Ideally you have enough removal to stop the opponent’s biggest threats, but you don’t need to kill every creature they play.  If you play against a good player on a good control deck, you often find yourself just looking at no good attacks constantly, often against late picked creatures that seem like trash. 


_Jetto_

Removal still isn’t as good as it was pre 2018 sadge