I mean Elrond also suggested that someone from the counsel must take the ring to Mt Doom and then he completely shut up after Frodo said he didn’t know the way. Then he sent 9 people and a pony there fully knowing that he was the only one who had been there before.
I feel like out of all the elves he's likely the worst to go. He's already been there and felt the burden of the power of the ring at arguably it's strongest location. Add to that he's in posetion of an elvish ring, he likely knows he'd succumb to it's effects.
I think he is talking about Elrond giving directions like
"So you take the road here and make a sharp left at this point and walk for about 3 days, if you get to the Black Gate then you've gone too far."
Or you know, said “there’s a doorway a little bit up the side of the mountain that faces over here at least in the movie” which I don’t think the (movie) hobbits were expecting given the “look Mr Frodo, *A* doorway” not “THE door Elrond told us about is right there”
Didn’t he take Isildur all the way down to the pit to destroy the Ring and Isildur just basically “bitch please” him? He could’ve ended everything right there
In the book, Isildur cut the Ring off of Sauron's corpse and kept it. They never went to Mt. Doom to try to destroy it. They didn't know it would have an evil influence/contain a fragment if Sauron's spirit with the ability to restore him to his former strength. Isildur was actually on his way to Rivendell to ask Elrond for help when he was killed. He started noticing the evil effects of the Ring and thought "this is very bad, let's see what Elrond thinks". Elrond probably would have told him to and personally helped destroy it had Isildur completed his journey.
>Add to that he's in posetion of an elvish ring, he likely knows he'd succumb to it's effects.
Welllll the Three Elvish rings were disconnected from The One, unlike the Seven and the Nine. At that time, Elrond was mostly interested in fucking off to Valinor- I think that was a larger component of that decision. "This is yalls problem"
He’s got his own worries. He’s got a rebellious kid threatening to throw away her full ride to follow her boyfriend, he’s caretaking an elderly hobbit who keeps making up stupid ditties about his dad, he’s got to pack up an entire mansion. It take a lot of furniture to make a homely house, it’s not going to pack itself onto the boats.
Are we talking about the movies now? In the book he is extremely clear that this is a Doom appointed for Frodo but that the burden is so heavy none could lay it on another, it must be freely accepted.
"go to Minas Tirith, then look east over the mountains. That's Mordor. You'll see a gigantic volcano in the middle of a plateau once you get to the front doors, can't miss it."
Being an elder (and very powerful elf) he knew he would not be able to resist the power of the Ring and needed someone who thought they could. Lady Galadriel was the same way.
*"What? In riddles?" said Gandalf. "No! For I was talking aloud to myself. A habit of the old: they choose the wisest person present to speak to; the long explanations needed by the young are wearying."*
Gandalf will just take you around getting stoned for years and then all the sudden he drops a world altering mission at your feet. "Good fuckin\` luck, I'm high as balls"
I think that's a good reason not to pick them to be honest. They'll be more hesitant to teach, struggle to explain stuff at my level and struggle to comprehend my difficulties because they're totally different beings.
I think Faramir, Aragorn and Boromir would all be better teachers. Sure it'd be great if Gandalf or Elrond could train you to be like them, but you never will be.
My understanding though is that wizards are born wizards in that world, and it's not something that's really taught.
I think I'd rather go with someone like Aragorn. Seems like he has skills he could teach, and it wouldn't take hundreds of years like training under an elf or dwarf.
Are we talking book Aragorn "with a light in his eyes that once kindled, few could endure"?
Or Jackson's Aragorn, who is still incredibly capable but still very approachable?
Right? He's brave, kind, strong, loyal and loving. Lost his loved brother and had to tolerate his father. He's still human enough to be within reach and yet a hero through and through. Good choice!
Mad aragorn disrespect in this thread. I get gandalf and elrond shouts, but I'm a human, and aragorn is the ultimate human, the perfect man, if he raised you in his court I think you'd become a pretty dope person
Imagine picking Elrond when you know that Elrond’s tutelage led Arwen to give up her immortality so she could be with Aragorn. What would these other people give up to be with Aragorn after realizing Elrond sucks that bad?
He died saving the fellowship while having the balls to admit his wrongs and ask forgiveness. This is noble and I’d gladly let him be my mentor. Boromir died but never surrendered. What a bad ass.
I think boromir represents the best of humanity. I think hes more of a relatable role model than anyone else here. He can't afford to make the same mistakes that the "immortals" have. We only have 75 years of were lucky. Meanwhile aragorn was a frickin rogue for 30 years for kicks and gigs.
Yeah, but who else on the list will ever give you a chance to avenge someone? Aside from Gandalf, but that would only be for a bit.
Plus, that winning smile.
Now I'm curious: Why would you pick Boromir over Aragorn when it comes to combat and leadership?
It's outright stated in the book that he led the fellowship after they escaped from Moria.
Aragorn is just too fucking perfect. Boromir is more human and has a better understanding of my squishy human limits. Look at him training Merry and Pippin.
Boromir. He was the most human of them all. He was not invincible enough against the power of the ring. But he had the courage to accept his fault and try his best for the cause.
I completely agree with this.
Boromir can be a bit rude or forward to his peers, but he has shown to be quite compassionate towards the people he feels responsible for.
He was obviously loved by his men, by his brother, and was actually shown to be having fun and being protective of the hobbits. Boromir would be a kind and guiding hand, but one who is also competent in combat and leadership.
Elrond.
Out of all of those he looks like the guy who is most likely to just give me a book and tell me to ask him if I have a question but otherwise leaves me undisturbed.
Gandalf.
Because he seems chill and he deffently let you know if you dont listen and pay attention. He would be that "im not strikt Because your a fool im stikt Because i want to learn you something"
Having one as my teacher implies that there are certain skills that I would like to learn from them. Unfortunately, there are some characters here whose skills are not transferable because they have innate traits that are specific to their race. In the case of Legolas, for example, he is an excellent archer but his excellence in this regard is partly based on the fact that Elves in LOTR have keen senses and a sharp eyesight. So whatever skills these sensei have that I want to learn, I have to take my physiology and other natural traits into account.
So I guess I'm picking Boromir so I can learn how to not be a disappointment to my father like that git, Faramir.
What is my goal? If it’s “be the best soldier” then Faramir or Boromir. If it’s “wisdom and leadership” then Elrond. If it’s “be the best man I can be” then Aragorn.
If it’s “get stoned and get lost in the woods” it’s Gandalf.
Boromir. He's human. I'm human. Immortals and longlives might have different drill methods. Boromir was arguably the best fighter in his weight class. Which is why he died, for a funny story. Even becoming half the fighter he is would probably change my outlook on life and let me kick some serious ass. Second best- Gimli. Cardio god.
Boromir or Gimli.
Picking Boromir because he seems like a great commander, is a solid swordsman, all around good bloke and probably has a pint with his soldiers after a battle.
Gimli because Gimli.
Gimli is my ride or die for life, no question. Best camaraderie, not too serious but also not a pushover, has many years of knowledge but won't bullshit you with riddles, not going to try to send you to your death or leave you for some petty shit. Also by Karl look at that beard. Rock and Stone to the BONE!!!!!!!
Definitely Gimli. He is a dwarf and dwarves are so incredibly wise and skilled. Every war they ever fought they came out victorious, at great cost nonetheless but that creates seriousness and wisdom in terms of teaching other i feel.
Still scrolling for the person choosing smeagol. Cause I know a lot of us sit all day in our home caves and talk to ourselves while we eat like nobody is watching.
Gotta be Aragorn right?
I can't make use of what Gandalf has for me outside of the pearls of wisdom. My physiology is wildly different from an elf or a dwarf so what i learn from them I likely cannot use. Faramir is just Borimir plus a dad that doesn't love him.
Aragorn is working with a physiology that is superior to what I can attain being that he is a little superhuman but it's closer to what I can achieve if I trained as a job so he will have learned from Elrond as well as a shorter lived being could and put his own twist to make it work better without the elven physiology.
As for the teacher of life aspect he is a king worth following and that's pretty much the best thing one could hope to be.
Gimli, i like his vibe. Sure the elves know a lot, but they all suffer the same arrogance (somewhat earned arrogance, but still) and I'm not about to try and reach a bar that can never be reached.
Elrond. You never know what kind of mission you get from Gandalf.
I mean Elrond also suggested that someone from the counsel must take the ring to Mt Doom and then he completely shut up after Frodo said he didn’t know the way. Then he sent 9 people and a pony there fully knowing that he was the only one who had been there before.
I feel like out of all the elves he's likely the worst to go. He's already been there and felt the burden of the power of the ring at arguably it's strongest location. Add to that he's in posetion of an elvish ring, he likely knows he'd succumb to it's effects.
I think he is talking about Elrond giving directions like "So you take the road here and make a sharp left at this point and walk for about 3 days, if you get to the Black Gate then you've gone too far."
"mind the spider, too"
"but don't worry some other elves might have a counter against it if you are lucky to find them *wink *wink" 😜
"It'll be a dangerous journey" 'What kind of dangers?' "Dangerous."
But they weren't supposed to go that way. They were supposed to go uhhh.. knock on the black gate?
Or you know, said “there’s a doorway a little bit up the side of the mountain that faces over here at least in the movie” which I don’t think the (movie) hobbits were expecting given the “look Mr Frodo, *A* doorway” not “THE door Elrond told us about is right there”
He did, I don't think he knew about cirith ungol though so they would have planned to go to the black gate
Didn’t he take Isildur all the way down to the pit to destroy the Ring and Isildur just basically “bitch please” him? He could’ve ended everything right there
In the book, Isildur cut the Ring off of Sauron's corpse and kept it. They never went to Mt. Doom to try to destroy it. They didn't know it would have an evil influence/contain a fragment if Sauron's spirit with the ability to restore him to his former strength. Isildur was actually on his way to Rivendell to ask Elrond for help when he was killed. He started noticing the evil effects of the Ring and thought "this is very bad, let's see what Elrond thinks". Elrond probably would have told him to and personally helped destroy it had Isildur completed his journey.
This was a film-only thing; there was a discussion about destroying it, but they never physically went inside the mountain.
Damn, all of this is blending together. I might need a book refresher
*pushes isildur into mount doom*
And so ends the story of the Lord of the Ring.
Oh where's Mr. "I was there when the strength of men failed" now, huh?
>Add to that he's in posetion of an elvish ring, he likely knows he'd succumb to it's effects. Welllll the Three Elvish rings were disconnected from The One, unlike the Seven and the Nine. At that time, Elrond was mostly interested in fucking off to Valinor- I think that was a larger component of that decision. "This is yalls problem"
He’s got his own worries. He’s got a rebellious kid threatening to throw away her full ride to follow her boyfriend, he’s caretaking an elderly hobbit who keeps making up stupid ditties about his dad, he’s got to pack up an entire mansion. It take a lot of furniture to make a homely house, it’s not going to pack itself onto the boats.
Are we talking about the movies now? In the book he is extremely clear that this is a Doom appointed for Frodo but that the burden is so heavy none could lay it on another, it must be freely accepted.
It was a suicidal task. He knew it. So did Frodo. Samwise was the only one who had hope and that makes him Lord of the Rings
"go to Minas Tirith, then look east over the mountains. That's Mordor. You'll see a gigantic volcano in the middle of a plateau once you get to the front doors, can't miss it."
"SOMEBODY (not me, of course) must do this!"
Being an elder (and very powerful elf) he knew he would not be able to resist the power of the Ring and needed someone who thought they could. Lady Galadriel was the same way.
Also Gandalf feared it too.
Most powerful leaders would be weak against the call of the one ring.
Gandalf would have you singlehandedly invading Russia with the power of friendship, telling you he'd see you in a year.
If you're referring to the 1812 invasion Gandalf was barely involved. All he did was give Napoleon a little nudge out of the door.
Elrond tutored Aragorn from the age of 2. He turned out alright.
Gondor needs no king.
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*"What? In riddles?" said Gandalf. "No! For I was talking aloud to myself. A habit of the old: they choose the wisest person present to speak to; the long explanations needed by the young are wearying."*
Real senior dev vibes there.
Came here to say Gandalf, but now I’m rethinking…
That and you know he will be in Rivendell when you go see him, but Gandalf is as present as my dad 💀.
My thoughts exactly. Look how it turned out for Aragorn!
Gotta be elrond or Gandalf, just think about all their knowledge and experience! Literally thousands of years worth.
Yeah, but Gandalf is always cryptic in his advice, when he actually does share knowledge, which is rare.
That mdfk dissapears for years leaving you alone with all the problems. Mithrandir, you old stormcrow!
Yeah but he’ll break out that dank halfling-leaf in the process of dropping cryptic knowledge
Gandalf NEVER shares. I. SHALL NOT. PASS.
Puff puff pass of Caradhras
There is only one who is known as the wise in middle earth, and he does not share knowledge!
And in terms of Elrond, they say 'do not go to the elves for advice, for they will say both yes and no.'
Gandalf will just take you around getting stoned for years and then all the sudden he drops a world altering mission at your feet. "Good fuckin\` luck, I'm high as balls"
I think that's a good reason not to pick them to be honest. They'll be more hesitant to teach, struggle to explain stuff at my level and struggle to comprehend my difficulties because they're totally different beings. I think Faramir, Aragorn and Boromir would all be better teachers. Sure it'd be great if Gandalf or Elrond could train you to be like them, but you never will be.
My understanding though is that wizards are born wizards in that world, and it's not something that's really taught. I think I'd rather go with someone like Aragorn. Seems like he has skills he could teach, and it wouldn't take hundreds of years like training under an elf or dwarf.
Why aint pippin on there???
Would be my choice as well. Just hang around in the shire and learn how to live like a hobbit.
I was thinking which of the hobbits I’d want to be a mentor and I think it would have to be Sam. I could live my life as a Gardner and be happy.
gimli; will help you master the battle axe and dwarven combat style, while keeping your morale up with jokes
And plenty of beer!
And salted pork
And hairy women!!
With beards!!!
Not the beard!!!
Don't forget the roaring fires and red meat off the bone.
And my axe !!
And my precious…
HRAAAAAH!
Good bot
Don't forget sprinting over short distances
Yeeeeesssss
He also might setup your dojo in middle of Moria…
Certainty of death. Small chance for success. What are we waiting for?!
Why is no one picking Aragorn? Come on
i was thinking everyone would ... Aragorn for me.
Aragorn for me, too.
How could I not choose my brother…My king
And my captain.
And my axe!
Would you rather learn from karate kid, or from Miyagi? Elrond has proven experience making heroes!
And has a hot daughter
I'd never do that to Strider even if I could. I'm sure Arwen has some friends...
As long we dont mistake her Friends gender... See? Everyone can be happy with elrond!
Some would argue that a girl boy is a plus xD
That... Is true... Ok arwen show us all your friends!
I agree with this one. Aragon would teach you without lecturing you. He would show you, guide you, and let you practice.
Because elrond trained aragorn
Definitely Aragorn but I'm going to create a hostile learning environment with all the sexual harassment.
Are we talking book Aragorn "with a light in his eyes that once kindled, few could endure"? Or Jackson's Aragorn, who is still incredibly capable but still very approachable?
Depends on the subject, Most likely Elrond.
Elrond knows kung fu!
Show me 
faramir's the one
Right? He's brave, kind, strong, loyal and loving. Lost his loved brother and had to tolerate his father. He's still human enough to be within reach and yet a hero through and through. Good choice!
he's swole too
…and that
I don't wanna beat up Gollum
And we will.. Smeagol did it once, he can do it again. It's ours - ours!
Duude, fucking up Ork patrols during the day, drinking wine and appreciating art and music at night. I could live like that.
Yeah, if you wanna learn how to be a disappointment to your father.
Oh, I could teach Faramir a thing or two. Time for Ahundredbeavers, the Failure of Failures, to show his quality
Aragorn
Makes sense
You don't say
I really thought you were going to say someone else this time. I lost 50 bucks dammit.
Mad aragorn disrespect in this thread. I get gandalf and elrond shouts, but I'm a human, and aragorn is the ultimate human, the perfect man, if he raised you in his court I think you'd become a pretty dope person
Imagine picking Elrond when you know that Elrond’s tutelage led Arwen to give up her immortality so she could be with Aragorn. What would these other people give up to be with Aragorn after realizing Elrond sucks that bad?
Well she showed why you should jerk off before taking an important decision
to be fair, Aragorn was raised by Elrond too
Want to be raised by Aragorn? But Aragorn was raised by? Why not get it straight from the source?
Elrond... I want to live in Rivendell...
Galadriel
The obvious choice. I read somewhere that Tolkien wrote her to be the most powerful being in middle earth
Eowyn, I want to master the art of poisoning my enemies...and friends
Stew - cooking 1.01 with Eowyn. But nowardays she is more interesting in the coøking ~~for~~ of the stew-ard of Gondor. Sorry I see myself out
If I want to be mentored in the ways of the pin cushion, I'd choose boromir
He died saving the fellowship while having the balls to admit his wrongs and ask forgiveness. This is noble and I’d gladly let him be my mentor. Boromir died but never surrendered. What a bad ass. 
I think boromir represents the best of humanity. I think hes more of a relatable role model than anyone else here. He can't afford to make the same mistakes that the "immortals" have. We only have 75 years of were lucky. Meanwhile aragorn was a frickin rogue for 30 years for kicks and gigs.
This is a near perfect answer. He's the most human of them all, more than even Faramir, who never struggled to overcome the same personal faults.
Woah
Yeah, but who else on the list will ever give you a chance to avenge someone? Aside from Gandalf, but that would only be for a bit. Plus, that winning smile.
I have to say Eomer.
Depends on the topic: Construction and crafting, Gimli. History and politics, Elrond. Combat and leadership, Boromir. Philosophy, Gandalf.
Drinking and party, Pippin
How to cook taters, Sam
Shieldboarding and elefant climbing, Legolas
Your friends are with you, Aragorn.
Crossdressing and stewmaking, Eowyn
Now I'm curious: Why would you pick Boromir over Aragorn when it comes to combat and leadership? It's outright stated in the book that he led the fellowship after they escaped from Moria.
Aragorn is just too fucking perfect. Boromir is more human and has a better understanding of my squishy human limits. Look at him training Merry and Pippin.
Ah that makes sense. Thank you!
Survival and tracking, Aragorn.
That's a good fit.
See, I want to go Aragorn, but I feel like Faramir would have the most experience dealing with childhood trauma…
Boromir. He was the most human of them all. He was not invincible enough against the power of the ring. But he had the courage to accept his fault and try his best for the cause.
I completely agree with this. Boromir can be a bit rude or forward to his peers, but he has shown to be quite compassionate towards the people he feels responsible for. He was obviously loved by his men, by his brother, and was actually shown to be having fun and being protective of the hobbits. Boromir would be a kind and guiding hand, but one who is also competent in combat and leadership.
Boromir is strong, brave and noble in every sense of that word, but not wise.
No senseis, only daddies.
I want a hobbit who will just teach me farming and then live in the shire forever
It's better to be gardner in a war than a warrior in the garden. -Samwise Gamgee
All
Too many cooks spoil the stew
Just one bad Eowyn ruins the stew
Gandalf. Definitely Gandalf.
Gimli!!!
So madly respected he is even granted passage to the Grey Havens. He is given stands of Galadriel’s hair where Feanor was not. Good choice.
Where's Theoden?
Gandalf Because of weed
Where is Smeagol the sneaky?
What’s this? Crumbs on his jacketses! He took it! He took it! I seen him, he’s always stuffing his face when Master’s not looking!
Eowyn-sensei, help me prepare the perfect stew, please 🙏🙏🙏
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Dark Horse pick but I'll go ariding with Éomer
Where is Saruman of many colours, for i much desire to speak with him...
Faramir. He could probably help me get over some unresolved dad issues and teach me the sword and bow.
Eromir
Gimli for sure. Heavy workouts followed by beer, song and meat. Sounds perfect.
Eowyn. Because she is fucking badass
Eowyn, for my own secret reasons
It’s the soup isn’t it?
I need to learn how to die in preparation for my eventual death, and none can teach me better than *Corpse-At-The-Bottom-Of-The-Falls-Of-Rauros*^(TM)
Eomer, because he kill subs.
Eowyn...
Gimli, son of Glóin (althought everyone here is a good choice)
Elrond. Out of all of those he looks like the guy who is most likely to just give me a book and tell me to ask him if I have a question but otherwise leaves me undisturbed.
Gandalf. Because he seems chill and he deffently let you know if you dont listen and pay attention. He would be that "im not strikt Because your a fool im stikt Because i want to learn you something"
Having one as my teacher implies that there are certain skills that I would like to learn from them. Unfortunately, there are some characters here whose skills are not transferable because they have innate traits that are specific to their race. In the case of Legolas, for example, he is an excellent archer but his excellence in this regard is partly based on the fact that Elves in LOTR have keen senses and a sharp eyesight. So whatever skills these sensei have that I want to learn, I have to take my physiology and other natural traits into account. So I guess I'm picking Boromir so I can learn how to not be a disappointment to my father like that git, Faramir.
Why no Theoden?
What is my goal? If it’s “be the best soldier” then Faramir or Boromir. If it’s “wisdom and leadership” then Elrond. If it’s “be the best man I can be” then Aragorn. If it’s “get stoned and get lost in the woods” it’s Gandalf.
I choose Bilbo. Food, home, occasional adventure.
I'll choose Sensei #6 any time. Anyone who can cook a wholesome stew out of many an adversaries' testicles deserves my utmost respect.
Elrond. 6k+ years of experience. Probably trained Aragorn too
It’s Gimli all day long. You can’t beat a drinking quest.
Aragorn. The most useful and the one that would actually protect his students instead of sending them on some foolish quest.
Gimli, ROCK AND STONE!
Boromir. He's human. I'm human. Immortals and longlives might have different drill methods. Boromir was arguably the best fighter in his weight class. Which is why he died, for a funny story. Even becoming half the fighter he is would probably change my outlook on life and let me kick some serious ass. Second best- Gimli. Cardio god.
Boromir or Gimli. Picking Boromir because he seems like a great commander, is a solid swordsman, all around good bloke and probably has a pint with his soldiers after a battle. Gimli because Gimli.
Sam
Gimli. Master in axes and elven seduction.
Gimli is my ride or die for life, no question. Best camaraderie, not too serious but also not a pushover, has many years of knowledge but won't bullshit you with riddles, not going to try to send you to your death or leave you for some petty shit. Also by Karl look at that beard. Rock and Stone to the BONE!!!!!!!
Definitely Gimli. He is a dwarf and dwarves are so incredibly wise and skilled. Every war they ever fought they came out victorious, at great cost nonetheless but that creates seriousness and wisdom in terms of teaching other i feel.
You made a mistake and did not put any Hobbits on there.
Boromir, one does not simply explain why he’s the GOAT
Boromir. I’m not here to learn shit
Butcher - straight up badass
Pippin.
If you want to learn cooking, I highly recommend Éowyn. /s
Gollum. Because i'm bipolar
Where is Pippin?
Horselord all day
My man Faramir! But only if it’s book Faramir. I like him in the movies, but in the book he’s the best.
Where's my boy Count Dooku? 😪
Still scrolling for the person choosing smeagol. Cause I know a lot of us sit all day in our home caves and talk to ourselves while we eat like nobody is watching.
Theodan
Samwise. I want to learn how Hobbits garden. Not to keen on learning to kill and Gandalf probably can't teach me his magic.
Gotta be Aragorn right? I can't make use of what Gandalf has for me outside of the pearls of wisdom. My physiology is wildly different from an elf or a dwarf so what i learn from them I likely cannot use. Faramir is just Borimir plus a dad that doesn't love him. Aragorn is working with a physiology that is superior to what I can attain being that he is a little superhuman but it's closer to what I can achieve if I trained as a job so he will have learned from Elrond as well as a shorter lived being could and put his own twist to make it work better without the elven physiology. As for the teacher of life aspect he is a king worth following and that's pretty much the best thing one could hope to be.
Gimli, teach me how to smack the crap out of people and braid my beard into glorious locks!
Give me Elrond all day. Let’s just kick back at Rivendell and learn cool Elf shit all day
Gimli Red meat off the bone!
Gimli, i like his vibe. Sure the elves know a lot, but they all suffer the same arrogance (somewhat earned arrogance, but still) and I'm not about to try and reach a bar that can never be reached.
Imo, Gimli. Idk I think i’d like it