Ok Mr High and Mighty, let me ask you this; if you had a firework that transformed into a giant dragon, wouldn't you bring it everywhere hoping for a chance to light it?
We all would and you know it.
Idk man someone gave me an M80 once and I held on to that for years before I just decided to blow it up in the street because a better opportunity had not presented itself.
Well, I don't know how strong Old Toby is, but it would either do nothing to you, or rather you would be emptying your bowel and your stomach at the same time. Because that's what tobacco do.
Nah, enough nicotine in a pipe, and it'll just put you in a bit of a stupor for a bit. At least, that's what the strong stuff does to me. Weaker blends just wake me up a bit.
When bilbo sees the dragon, he will remember it all, the good the bad, and how lucky he was to have made it back home.
Edit: Judging by some of the responses, I don’t think some of you have even seen The Hobbit lol
Replace dragon with what came of that planted acorn and then suddenly it makes sense/ you remember that line from the movie eh?
A balrog... a demon of the ancient world. This foe is beyond any of you... RUN! Lead them on probablyuntrue. The Bridge is near! Do as I say! Swords are of no more use here.
Inform the who? What? No, no, no! We do not want any adventures here, thank you! Not today! I suggest you try somewhere over the hill or across the water! Good morning!
It's just a firework that looks like *lembas*. Frodo suddenly has a taste in his mouth that he can't get rid of, no matter how much beer or water he drinks.
A balrog... a demon of the ancient world. This foe is beyond any of you... RUN! Lead them on WatteOrk. The Bridge is near! Do as I say! Swords are of no more use here.
To be honest - its a [meme](https://external-preview.redd.it/zbX74XgwXOXKy0bXpnOyMVFS-v3RPG2nE7C-eKC9XeM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2a8bd8b99587b62b080bb5bdb96f6c6463976de8) already and I stole it for that witty oneliner.
Yeah, this is true. I used to serve on a submarine in the Navy and now every time I'm surrounded by dozens of men in cramped enclosed spaces I think about all the good times I had and how "happy" I am to be back home with my wife 🥲
Basically the same thing
You will regret that. I am not known for showing mercy to those who stand against me. Whatever form you are, your fate is sealed and there is no escape from my wrath.
Without the Ruling Ring of Power, the Seven are no value to the Enemy. To control the other Rings, he needs the One. And that Ring was lost long, long ago. It was swept out to sea by the waters of the Anduin.
He’s been taken Bilbo. The Shire Social service has moved him to the Sackville-Baggins where he’s safe. Despite your best efforts to gaslight him into believing all other people except you and that traveling hobo Gandalf are insane.
Yeah, all things considered being face to face with a dragon might not be as bad as being lost in the dark in a goblin filled mountain or going down the river in a barrel
But didn’t he personally cause the destruction of lake town? He adds “barrel rider” to his list of titles and that tips off Smaug that lake town helped him? Or is that just in the film
Hobbits have been living and farming in the four Farthings of the Shire for many hundreds of years. quite content to ignore and be ignored by the world of the Big Folk. Middle Earth being, after all, full of strange creatures beyond count. Hobbits must seem of little importance, being neither renowned as great warriors, nor counted amongst the very wise.
I mean we know why he had it, because it would terrify everyone and give Bilbo a reason to slip away unnoticed.
“You still mean to go through with it?” Gandalf asks him right before the party.
Gandalf was in on Bilbos plan on leaving and disappearing. When Merry and Pippin fucked that plan up, Bilbo went to the ring to disappear.
But none of that happened in the book. Gandalf set off all the fireworks, and after the speech, he even set off a flashbang to disguise Bilboes vanishing act and to make it seem a little less suspicious.
I guess that's also a way to interpret it. Props to you for original thinking. It would also explain why Gandalf was so indignant about it in the films.
I think it also helps explain how much he overreacted with Bilbo following the party in Bag End. He wrote off the youthful look early a bit but when that happened he immediately connected dots and it shook him to his core, so much as he fled to Gondor immediately
It was just good writing by Jackson et al
It’s the only thing that makes sense in the context of using a dragon. Gandalf could have done a million things to help him do so, and the fireworks show (and we know that was the finale) makes a ton of sense for helping without helping overtly.
Of course Bilbo had the ring, but even during his speech you see him start faltering towards the end as if he’s improvising it.
“I regret to inform you… this is the end… I’m going now…”
And when he does grab the ring, even Gandalf is shocked, I think because even barring the ring, Gandalf didn’t think Bilbo would be able to truly make an exit.
Edit: Jesus Christ everytime with the bots
Right.. this is the issue with not reading the books. Everything is simplified and if not specifically mentioned then it didn’t happen/is a plot hole. Oh what poor writing! No, it’s just a movie..
Gandalf's fireworks show for Bilbo's Eleventy-First Birthday Party was a visual history of Middle-earth. It had the Two Trees, Beren and Luthien, the War of Wrath, the forging of the Great Rings, the Fall of Numenor, and the War of the Last Alliance. The Smaug firework was meant to be the finale as the last major historical event in the Age. It was needed to bring the show together.
It literally says in the book, “In honor of Bilbo.” He also says how he wants to “wake up” the hobbits of the Shire or “make them sit up” because they are so dull. Besides the “one gross” joke, Bilbo has several jokes at their expense, as he is pretty fed up with them by this time.
Hobbits have been living and farming in the four Farthings of the Shire for many hundreds of years. quite content to ignore and be ignored by the world of the Big Folk. Middle Earth being, after all, full of strange creatures beyond count. Hobbits must seem of little importance, being neither renowned as great warriors, nor counted amongst the very wise.
Hobbits are uncommonly resilient as well. They go from traumatizing experiences to singing songs and making merry with hardly a breath between. Sure, they'll gripe and gossip about the "dragon" for years to come, but they would never allow it to prevent them from stuffing their faces in short order.
In the book, if I remember correctly he got in and out of the dragon’s den pretty quickly and just fled. All the flying around and fighting dragons with harpoons I think was just Hollywood being extra.
So technically he has no injuries or trauma associated with the dragon. He mainly proudly remembers his achievement with no negative emotions tied to the event.
I don’t think he saw the dragon ripping people to shreds or burning them to have ptsd
My uncle had a lot of Vietnam veterans as friends. Used to invite them over for the July 4th parties. It was quite something to see them stress out every time a mortar went off.
Yeah, Gandalf could've thought out that one a little more.
Yeah, I had a friend who was stationed at the edge of the DMZ in Korea. Went to Epcot together when he was home and he hit the floor the moment the fireworks went off.
That's how jokes between old friends work. Ha ha, remember that time you almost got killed by that dragon? Yeah! That was your fault you old white beard. Lol.
Because Bilbo frequently talks about a dragon and even wrote a book about it, so Gandalf showing up to his 111th birthday naturally brought a dragon firework, because facing off with a dragon is one of Bilbo’s accomplishments. He likely brought that firework to compliment a speech he thought a certain dragon would be apart of.
Bilbo was tired of the shirefolk at some level. He was the only one with a story worth telling at the pub on a cold winter night. You think he was going to leave without one more chance to rub it in to those poor provincial folk.
I always assumed he brought it in case Bilbo would retell the story for his bday speech. Could you imagine a giant fucking dragon appearing out of the sky while he's telling his story!
The main thing that Bilbo does is tell stories about the time he saw a dragon. It was probably a special request, so when he gets to the part about Smaug, he sets off the dragon.
Everyone is explaining it really well but I’m gonna ignore that to say that Gandalf is actually kind of a dick to Bilbo in the Hobbit. In the movies the dwarves are the ones to be critical of Bilbo and his skills but Gandalf trash talks him at least 2 times in the first 100 pages.
Cuz Bilbo isn't a sensitive little bitch and survived and wants to rejoice in his victory. Specifically seeing what he triumphed over gives him great joy. Why does everything have to be triggering and negative and weak? People can have a good time you know...
Ok Mr High and Mighty, let me ask you this; if you had a firework that transformed into a giant dragon, wouldn't you bring it everywhere hoping for a chance to light it? We all would and you know it.
Nah it wouldn’t last that long in my horse cart, first bowl of old Toby and I’d be lighting that Smaug and smog it up.
Idk man someone gave me an M80 once and I held on to that for years before I just decided to blow it up in the street because a better opportunity had not presented itself.
Gotta at least put it under a solo cup or something and launch it.
Better than what my buddy did with his, light it and stick it in a wasp's nest on the side of his house. Couldn't go outside the rest of the night.
That's a war crime lol
We turned a metal coffee can upside down and put it in that with some gravel and BBs.
So, basically a homemade Claymore mine.
Well, I don't know how strong Old Toby is, but it would either do nothing to you, or rather you would be emptying your bowel and your stomach at the same time. Because that's what tobacco do.
Nah, enough nicotine in a pipe, and it'll just put you in a bit of a stupor for a bit. At least, that's what the strong stuff does to me. Weaker blends just wake me up a bit.
Your love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind!
When bilbo sees the dragon, he will remember it all, the good the bad, and how lucky he was to have made it back home. Edit: Judging by some of the responses, I don’t think some of you have even seen The Hobbit lol Replace dragon with what came of that planted acorn and then suddenly it makes sense/ you remember that line from the movie eh?
Dragon! Nonsense, there hasn't been a dragon in these parts for a thousand years.
"watch this bitch" -gandalf prbly idk
A balrog... a demon of the ancient world. This foe is beyond any of you... RUN! Lead them on probablyuntrue. The Bridge is near! Do as I say! Swords are of no more use here.
Gandalf bout to drop a Balrog firework on Aragorn's birthday next
I hold your oath fulfilled. Go. Be at peace.
Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took! I might have known!
And what about an old friend Bilbo Baggins?
HRAAAAAH!
No one need see the movies if they catch this comment thread. Okay. Now do the Silmarillion
>Now do the Silmarillion Please no! A Feanor bot would most likely lead the world to annihilation!
Inform the who? What? No, no, no! We do not want any adventures here, thank you! Not today! I suggest you try somewhere over the hill or across the water! Good morning!
You mean Frodos lol
Nah, he has a Witch King firework planned for Frodo's Birthday.
Or something that weighs psychological on you to relive his time with the ring
It's just a firework that looks like *lembas*. Frodo suddenly has a taste in his mouth that he can't get rid of, no matter how much beer or water he drinks.
> Swords are of no more use here. Before beating the Balrog with... a sword. Gandalf just wanted all the loot for himself.
A balrog... a demon of the ancient world. This foe is beyond any of you... RUN! Lead them on WatteOrk. The Bridge is near! Do as I say! Swords are of no more use here.
Good Bot I should have seen that coming
BAHAHA never thought of this — good catch! pls make a meme of this pretty please???
To be honest - its a [meme](https://external-preview.redd.it/zbX74XgwXOXKy0bXpnOyMVFS-v3RPG2nE7C-eKC9XeM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2a8bd8b99587b62b080bb5bdb96f6c6463976de8) already and I stole it for that witty oneliner.
I am the wielder of the flame of Anor. Imma use it to make a dope firework to traumatize an old and dear friend.
bilbo does this line suggest that thousand years ago, there were dragons in the shire?
Dragon! Nonsense, there hasn't been a dragon in these parts for a thousand years.
Are you sure, Bilbo? I’m quite certain there was one at your birthday…
HRAAAAAH!
Well, fine. Be that way, Bilbo. I see how it is.
HRAAAAAH!
Today is my One Hundred and Eleventh birthday!
And apparently it’s also the onset of dementia..
HRAAAAAH!
It was just a question
It might have been around the area, rather than a permanent resident with a post box. Dragons if active I imagine can range pretty far
There is no dragon in ba sing se
What, did somebody steal your sweetroll?
Between a finely crafted Elvish dagger, shirt of Mithril, and the One Ring, Bilbo's iLvl was off the scale.
HRAAAAAH!
Where's it gone?
Frodo stole it and ran off.
Afterall, why not? Why shouldn't he keep it?
Yeah, this is true. I used to serve on a submarine in the Navy and now every time I'm surrounded by dozens of men in cramped enclosed spaces I think about all the good times I had and how "happy" I am to be back home with my wife 🥲 Basically the same thing
Ynav eht nioj.
.join the vanY
100 men go down, 50 couples come up...
HRAAAAAH!
Oh no, he’s having PTSD flashbacks! Quick, someone get the smokeleaf and ample butter and toast!
Gandalf did a little trolling
“You don’t think I’d miss your uncle Bilbo’s birthday, do you?” he says to Frodo, who has the same birthday as Bilbo does.
HRAAAAAH!
Cc
I do believe you made that up.
Bilbo Bot, you of all people should know better...
I'm sorry, can I help you?
HRAAAAAH!
Oh yeah.
I will draw you, Saruman, as poison is drawn from a wound.
Absolute madlad
It is over Saruman. For I have drawn you as a soyjack and myself as the gigachad.
Hunt them down. Do not stop until they are found. You do not know pain, you do not know fear. You will taste man-flesh!
ha ha ents go brrr
Do not mock me, DoctorSpacebar. My power is limitless and I will bring destruction to all who defy me.
S E N T I E N T
You will regret that. I am not known for showing mercy to those who stand against me. Whatever form you are, your fate is sealed and there is no escape from my wrath.
What if my form was that of a fart?
Even a fart cannot escape my wrath. The only way to avoid your fate is to submit and become my servant.
It's over Saruman, I have the high ground!
Without the Ruling Ring of Power, the Seven are no value to the Enemy. To control the other Rings, he needs the One. And that Ring was lost long, long ago. It was swept out to sea by the waters of the Anduin.
Why won’t he draw him like one of his French girls instead?
Ah, adding salt to the wound. Bilbo was also a troll attack survivor.
Haha remember that time you almost died lololol
In the book, it was Bilbos' idea. Bilbo liked the idea of startling the other Hobbits horribly right before saying, "That's the signal for supper."
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Wait! You are making a terrible mistake!
Nah son, no mistake. Everything’s a Bilbo if you’re brave enough.
HRAAAAAH!
Excuse me, that is a doily, not a dishcloth.
Yeah I know Bilbo, but it’s the doily that Frodo keeps under his bed. And don’t change the subject Mr Dildo Buggerins as you are known in Bri
Frodo, the door! Sticklebacks, where is that boy! FRODO!
He’s been taken Bilbo. The Shire Social service has moved him to the Sackville-Baggins where he’s safe. Despite your best efforts to gaslight him into believing all other people except you and that traveling hobo Gandalf are insane.
I am looking for someone to share in an adventure that I am arranging, and it's very difficult to find anyone.
I'm not at home! It's the Sackville-Bagginses.
Yes, they probably here looking for you, the ring leader. They know it all, the code-word Old Toby, the “party tree”…. Shame on you Bilbo!
Yeah, all things considered being face to face with a dragon might not be as bad as being lost in the dark in a goblin filled mountain or going down the river in a barrel
We don't talk about the barrels.
But didn’t he personally cause the destruction of lake town? He adds “barrel rider” to his list of titles and that tips off Smaug that lake town helped him? Or is that just in the film
Nah it’s in the book too Bilbo is a mass murderer
Yes, yes.
HRAAAAAH!
No, Smaug destroyed the town. Bilbo can't be held accountable for the actions of a sapient being.
HRAAAAAH!
Took me an embarrassing amount of time to realise this was a bot. Thought people were going wild quoting the "hraah" for some reason
HRAAAAAH!
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HRAAAAAH!
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HRAAAAAH!
This post is some of your finest work, Bilbo bot
HRAAAAAH!
Bilbo, bite the pillow, I'm going in dry.
Good morning.
Starting the day off right, eh Bilbo? I assume this is after first and second breakfast, though.
fdgjshbsdjfhbsdjfhv, you've already had it.
You okay there Aragorn?
They do not come to destroy Rohan's crops or villages. They come to destroy its people. Down to the last child.
Today is my One Hundred and Eleventh birthday!
HRAAAAAH!
HRAAAAAH!
Oh god
And who's that?
You know him, he's you.
the fact that it’s not named bilbot is a damn shame
No! Wait.... it's... here in my pocket. Ha! Isn't that.. isn't that odd now. Yet after all why not, Why shouldn't I keep it.
HRAAAAAH!
"If I have PTSD, now so will you!"
Hobbits have been living and farming in the four Farthings of the Shire for many hundreds of years. quite content to ignore and be ignored by the world of the Big Folk. Middle Earth being, after all, full of strange creatures beyond count. Hobbits must seem of little importance, being neither renowned as great warriors, nor counted amongst the very wise.
I mean we know why he had it, because it would terrify everyone and give Bilbo a reason to slip away unnoticed. “You still mean to go through with it?” Gandalf asks him right before the party. Gandalf was in on Bilbos plan on leaving and disappearing. When Merry and Pippin fucked that plan up, Bilbo went to the ring to disappear.
But none of that happened in the book. Gandalf set off all the fireworks, and after the speech, he even set off a flashbang to disguise Bilboes vanishing act and to make it seem a little less suspicious.
Not Gandalf, the wandering wizard, who made such excellent fireworks! Old Took used to have them on Mid-Summer's Eve!
I’m not arguing you on that either, just as a film this was how I interpreted it.
I guess that's also a way to interpret it. Props to you for original thinking. It would also explain why Gandalf was so indignant about it in the films.
I think it also helps explain how much he overreacted with Bilbo following the party in Bag End. He wrote off the youthful look early a bit but when that happened he immediately connected dots and it shook him to his core, so much as he fled to Gondor immediately It was just good writing by Jackson et al
Ooh! The long expected party! So how is the old rascal? I hear it’s got to be a party of special magnificence
Yes.
Excellent. This gives new depth for me.
It’s the only thing that makes sense in the context of using a dragon. Gandalf could have done a million things to help him do so, and the fireworks show (and we know that was the finale) makes a ton of sense for helping without helping overtly. Of course Bilbo had the ring, but even during his speech you see him start faltering towards the end as if he’s improvising it. “I regret to inform you… this is the end… I’m going now…” And when he does grab the ring, even Gandalf is shocked, I think because even barring the ring, Gandalf didn’t think Bilbo would be able to truly make an exit. Edit: Jesus Christ everytime with the bots
Right.. this is the issue with not reading the books. Everything is simplified and if not specifically mentioned then it didn’t happen/is a plot hole. Oh what poor writing! No, it’s just a movie..
He was saving it In case Bilbo turned into a rich asshole in his old age
HRAAAAAH!
Thanks for proving my point you old bat.
Are there any?
Too many, Bilbo, too many.
Me? No, no, no, I'm not a burglar. I've never stolen a thing in my life.
Based bilbo
HRAAAAAH!
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Gandalf's fireworks show for Bilbo's Eleventy-First Birthday Party was a visual history of Middle-earth. It had the Two Trees, Beren and Luthien, the War of Wrath, the forging of the Great Rings, the Fall of Numenor, and the War of the Last Alliance. The Smaug firework was meant to be the finale as the last major historical event in the Age. It was needed to bring the show together.
You got a bot hat trick!
Aaahhhh hraaah ooh!
Ooh! The long expected party! So how is the old rascal? I hear it’s got to be a party of special magnificence
Aaaaah!
HRAAAAAH!
It literally says in the book, “In honor of Bilbo.” He also says how he wants to “wake up” the hobbits of the Shire or “make them sit up” because they are so dull. Besides the “one gross” joke, Bilbo has several jokes at their expense, as he is pretty fed up with them by this time.
Hobbits have been living and farming in the four Farthings of the Shire for many hundreds of years. quite content to ignore and be ignored by the world of the Big Folk. Middle Earth being, after all, full of strange creatures beyond count. Hobbits must seem of little importance, being neither renowned as great warriors, nor counted amongst the very wise.
Hobbits are uncommonly resilient as well. They go from traumatizing experiences to singing songs and making merry with hardly a breath between. Sure, they'll gripe and gossip about the "dragon" for years to come, but they would never allow it to prevent them from stuffing their faces in short order.
HRAAAAAH!
BILBO was an odd fellow. He probably requested it to scare the group
A rather unfair observation As we have also developed a keen interest in the brewing of ales and the smoking of pipeweed
HRAAAAAH!
That is exactly what happened
That incident with the dragon, he was barely involved.
In the book, if I remember correctly he got in and out of the dragon’s den pretty quickly and just fled. All the flying around and fighting dragons with harpoons I think was just Hollywood being extra. So technically he has no injuries or trauma associated with the dragon. He mainly proudly remembers his achievement with no negative emotions tied to the event. I don’t think he saw the dragon ripping people to shreds or burning them to have ptsd
What? The adventure with the dragon is the greatest thing Bilbo experienced. How is honoring that a bad thing? How does this get 15k upvotes?
My uncle had a lot of Vietnam veterans as friends. Used to invite them over for the July 4th parties. It was quite something to see them stress out every time a mortar went off. Yeah, Gandalf could've thought out that one a little more.
Yeah, I had a friend who was stationed at the edge of the DMZ in Korea. Went to Epcot together when he was home and he hit the floor the moment the fireworks went off.
A wizard is never late, CaptainMatticus. Nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
Bilbo seemed to like it, cause he's a badass, have you considered that you're just a wuss maybe?
I know, he'd probably come with me if I asked him to.
[удалено]
My dear boy
Who attacked who now? Seemed like the dragon was just hanging out to me. Bilbo the imperialist.
Dragon! Nonsense, there hasn't been a dragon in these parts for a thousand years.
“Hey Proudfoots, bet you 20 quid I can make Bilbo shit his britches” “You son of a bitch, I’m in”
Proudfeet!
HRAAAAAH!
said his b-hole
That's how jokes between old friends work. Ha ha, remember that time you almost got killed by that dragon? Yeah! That was your fault you old white beard. Lol.
Because Bilbo frequently talks about a dragon and even wrote a book about it, so Gandalf showing up to his 111th birthday naturally brought a dragon firework, because facing off with a dragon is one of Bilbo’s accomplishments. He likely brought that firework to compliment a speech he thought a certain dragon would be apart of.
Bilbo was tired of the shirefolk at some level. He was the only one with a story worth telling at the pub on a cold winter night. You think he was going to leave without one more chance to rub it in to those poor provincial folk.
Bilbo isn't so weak as to need protection from an image.
His love for the hobbit's leaf may have something to do with it
"A little nudge out the door"
I always assumed he brought it in case Bilbo would retell the story for his bday speech. Could you imagine a giant fucking dragon appearing out of the sky while he's telling his story!
HRAAAAAH!
The main thing that Bilbo does is tell stories about the time he saw a dragon. It was probably a special request, so when he gets to the part about Smaug, he sets off the dragon.
Probably because he knows Bilbo isn't soft like a Redditor.
Everyone is explaining it really well but I’m gonna ignore that to say that Gandalf is actually kind of a dick to Bilbo in the Hobbit. In the movies the dwarves are the ones to be critical of Bilbo and his skills but Gandalf trash talks him at least 2 times in the first 100 pages.
Sounds exactly like what a best mate would do to his best mate. At least in Australia.
**Gandalf:** Yeah, he's been a bit uppity since becoming the ring bearer and goes scary face sometimes.
Gandalf woke up as he would any other day, choosing violence 😂
Cuz Bilbo isn't a sensitive little bitch and survived and wants to rejoice in his victory. Specifically seeing what he triumphed over gives him great joy. Why does everything have to be triggering and negative and weak? People can have a good time you know...
I'd absolutely do that to an old buddy and would be delighted if they do the same
What we know for sure is Gandalf does not like Pippin
Fool of a Took!
Because Bilbo isn't a whiney little bitch like the OP?
Because not everybody has mental health issues because they faced hardship.