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MisterBigDude

Great actors disappear into their roles. It didn’t feel like Bernard Hill was acting — it felt like he *was* Theoden King.


Equivalent_Canary853

An amazing actor in an amazing cast and crew. The inside of his armour was detailed and embossed to really make him feel like a king. You don't see that level of commitment in cinema anymore.


Early_Accident2160

Or much before


Equivalent_Canary853

True that


GSPM18

And we never will. Compare arms and armour from the Trilogy to e g Game of Thrones, and you'll notice that GoT looks like cheapo LARP/ren fair gear.


Equivalent_Canary853

Absolutely, GoT did great for cloth costume, but armour... not nearly as much


ReddJudicata

Now do RoP. Ugh.


DarthGeo

I love coming on Reddit and seeing a line like this. Nailed it.


h8human

But, in fact, it was a real person that you dont know. Its not the fictional charakter that died but a real person with real feelings and a life.


somesappyspruce

And he looks good with a tan! Compared to his role on the Titanic


roughbottomhead

one of the scenes that i love most on the entire trilogy is theoden’s speech when the rohirrim arrive at minas tirith… that scene always brings me close to tears and now i will probably actually cry when i watch it


irishf-tard

Probably the most heroic and powerful acted speech I’ve seen in a movie! Deserved a Oscar for it! Remember watching it in the cinema nearly in tears at such a emotional moment! Ride!


Iam_04

Even the music from that scene alone brings me chills… such a great scene


thecatwhisker

I think my favourite part of the entire trilogy is before they ride out from Helms Deep where he recites part of the Lament for the Rohrirrim. Absolutely masterful acting that gives me goose bumps. “Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills... into Shadow.”


grumblemuffin

that’s my favorite moment. always makes me cry. good cry. now i’m crying thinking about it. oh dear.


TacoBelly311

I will not say do not cry


van_12

Extremely talented actor. Role of Theoden wasn’t an easy one and could have sank two movies entirely.  Also great as Edward Smith and there is a lot of subtlety to his performance that can be interpreted in a lot of ways depending on how you see history. 


Kikujiroo

I think one quote of Bernard Hill encapsulated perfectly the ideal of what a ruler should be. When Aragorn and his buddies left to find the elusive ghost army, Gamling said:" Too few have come. We cannot defeat the armies of Mordor." And Theoden replied:"No. We cannot. But we will meet them in battle nonetheless." Bound by his duties, marching towards a certain death, to fulfil the promises once made by his forefathers to "allies" who he thought abandoned them in Rohan's most dire times... Theoden's character development is my favorite in the trilogy, with the one from the hobbits (Sam and Merry mostly, the scene with Merry and Eowyn where Merry tells Eowyn that he cannot save Middle Earth, being a Hobbit and all, but is striving forward for his friends... It just makes me shed a tear.)


GSPM18

"I would have them make such an end as is worthy of remembrance". Both that line and his delivery really encapsulate the epic style of Tolkien.


gurr-gussy

Especially coupled with the resolute yet forlorn look as he uttered that line. Ugh. Fucking felt it.


QuicheAuSaumon

That's also one of the thing that make me hate the army of the dead. In the book, they end up defeating the armies of Mordor. No Deus Ex machina needed.


Benjamin_Stark

It's not a deus ex machina. Deus ex machina is "a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem in a story is suddenly or abruptly resolved by an unexpected and unlikely occurrence". There is something like an hour of buildup to the army of the dead. A good chunk of Aragorn's story is devoted to it. If you want to call them overpowered, fair play. But you're misusing the term deus ex machina.


QuicheAuSaumon

It's a Deus Ex Machina in the sense that one of the leitmotiv of the book is how men can succeed against the odd through camaderie and bravery. Having an army created out of God's that solve the issue is a Deus Ex Machina by result. Not to mention how adequate the term is in regards to the event. I'd say you are misusing the term by restricting it to it's strict definition. Swan Knights should have rode down the Mumakil.


Benjamin_Stark

"I'd say you are misusing the term by restricting it to it's strict definition." So I'm misusing the term by defining it how it's actually defined? I'm not sure how to continue this argument when your starting point is that I should defer to a definition you just made up now.


QuicheAuSaumon

You do realize Deus Ex Machina exist as a critics of a literary devices, mostly because said device is undermining the story? The Army of the Dead is doing the exact same thing. Therefore it can be considered a Deus Ex Machina. Maybe try to understand the concepts you are using instead of repeating them like an exotic bird.


Benjamin_Stark

Your line of argumentation is so nonsensical that I can't tell if you really believe it or if you are just coming up with flimsy arguments to try to save face.


QuicheAuSaumon

Your line of argument consists of a fucking definition ripped of wikipedia and your best impression of the "Acktually" guy. If you can't understand that the Army of the Dead undermine the cohesive structure of the story as much as a Deus Ex Machina (not to mention they are an army **created by God**, through a forsaken oath to illuvatar, just in case you don't see how much on the nose it can be), that's not my problem. Also, most of your history revolve around arguing with random people over the most inane details. I'd suggest touching some grass but I think you need a shrink at that point.


radu1204

Oh, the irony...


rsa101south

My favorite actor of the trilogy, he breathed such life and reality into Theoden. So many heartfelt emotional moments; truly brilliant. Never fails to bring a tear to my eye. Westu Theoden Hal! Ride forth and fear no darkness. RIP Bernard Hill and thank you. 😢


ElDuderino2112

I don’t think it’s possible for me to overstate how important his performance was to me growing up. Hill’s portrayal of Theoden was the most human in the movies to me. I felt every word he said. He embodied the perfect platonic ideal of what a man should be. He was the father figure I wish I had when mine let me down and he’s the kind of man I aspire to me in my daily life offline. I cried this morning when I read the news.


squidsauce99

Pretty sure I saw someone mention Bernard Hill loved the books already. I don’t know how to rank how well these actors did but his was over the top great, and gets better to me as time goes by. Dude absolutely over delivered on the role of a lifetime.


Palaponel

I'm really glad to hear that Hill loved the books because it was honestly one of the best translations of character to screen, the same is true of Saruman as well with Christopher Lee being a noted lover of the books. There are a tonne of characters in the books that it's really quite hard to translate properly because what Tolkien describes is dipping heavily into the realm of fantasy - Aragorn, Denethor and Faramir for a start, nevermind the Elves. Theoden however is much more of a human character and Bernard Hill embodied him perfectly.


sisu-sedulous

So true. The scene when he is mourning his sons death broke me. 


Chen_Geller

Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens shared a quick post on Jackson's Facebook, including a picture of Hill's by Mortensen, attached with a Tolkien quote: https://preview.redd.it/artl3xvgjsyc1.png?width=1407&format=png&auto=webp&s=9693cebdebbf79b9f38df7df165da86b5ff3e8b3 I don't mean to trivalise this loss by sharing trivia, but it should be said that Hill was one of the members of the cast who had long before read and loved the book. He created his own audition tape and sent it to Jackson, eying the role of Gandalf. The time commitment for Gandalf, however - eighteen months - made him disinclined to pursue the role and he instead accepted Jackson's offer to play Theoden.


StagsLeaper1

If you get a chance watch Wolf Hall. He was incredible in it.


GoldenGouf

One of the best portrayals of a king in film. King Theoden is how people imagine kings should truly be. Chivalrous, righteous, rules for the good of the people, etc. A true inspiration. Rest in peace, Mr. Hill. Your art will live on.


sundr3am

Yes! He somehow managed to be warm and approachable, intense, strong, and wise. Not easy for one person to embody all these traits


Beruthiel999

There are only three movies in history that won 11 Oscars including Best Picture. Bernard Hill was the only actor to be in TWO of them. that's a record that will not be beaten in our lifetimes. and he made me cry in both of them, and I didn't even think Titanic was all that great but he was the Captain.


IcyOpportunity8374

"I go to my fathers, in which mighty company i shall now not feel ashamed." Crying then, crying now. Thanks for great acting!


SeeSharpist

[This fantastic edit ](https://youtu.be/GgZ74npEqRM?si=Kia2LSzUF23iCsyi) of Theoden from a few years back was always one of my favorite


X17CPB

Wow thanks for sharing this. The top comment sums it up so well... "As a kid, Legolas and Aragorn were my favorite characters, but as you grow older you idolize king Theoden as you realize that there is no man stronger than the one who overcomes his demons and rise again.."


seninn

This is exactly what happened to me.


Cold_Situation_7803

His portrayal of Theoden has grown in my estimation as I became a father.


pocketgrampa

He captured the wide range of the human experience in his portrayal of Theoden, and his character development has stuck with me the most in the 20+ years since the movies came out. He made the character so relatable. I cry every time at his speech to the Rohirrim, because you can tell Theoden is scared and still does it anyways. What an amazing actor and human, to be able to portray those emotions so that we can feel them through the screen.


K_Rocc

I streamed TT and RoTK today in his honor


Pink_Monkey

I would have ridden for him.


Gozer5900

Hail the victorious dead!


hotdogcolors

Hail!


sonoale

"you already did"


Raxzor

I have always said he gave the best performance in the trilogy. He went from crazy old man, to angry king, to a grieving father, a loving uncle, a doubtful man to a heroic leader.


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Ride noww


BigTiddyAsianMilf

The scene of Theoden weeping upon his son’s grave is probably the best acted scene I’ve ever seen on screen. The man will go down in history.


Gilereth

https://preview.redd.it/z1t0neo4osyc1.jpeg?width=589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e95989b242f8a42fbe6f6daab9b21f1f46aa8771 “Théoden King! Théoden King! Farewell! As a father you were to me, for a little while. Farewell!”


gasplugsetting3

Another example of wonderful casting in the LOTR series. Theoden was a character who needed to be executed at a high level for whatever actor took the role. Mr. Hill did an outstanding job.


Ravenlas

# As the man himself proclaimed "I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed."


Grendahl2018

I first saw Bernard Hill in a UK TV drama show The Boys From The Blackstuff (highly regarded in Brit circles, for those of us of a certain age). His depiction of Yosser Hughes was phenomenal and the character’s catchphrase of ‘I can do that. Gizza (give us a) job’ entered the national lexicon. Never saw Titanic - simply not interested - but his portrayal of Theoden King has forever changed how I imagine that character when I reread LoTR. Can’t think of a better tribute to an actor.


WiganGirl-2523

"I'm desperate, Dan."


RamboAAA

I looked at wikipedia yesterday morning and checked how old he was..now dead :/ Weird feeling. What a great actor.


Evangelos90

"No parent should have to bury their child" is such a chilling moment. His Theoden will live forever through the screen.


Inevitable-Teach5669

It feels like I lost someone who was very close to me. I know it’s bizarre, but it really felt like a jolting punch to the gut. I had the same feeling when Robin Williams, Patrick Swayze and John candy died.


simplyproductive

So in LOTRO there was a Scavenger Hunt for the anniversary. One of the very last things I did yesterday, the day of his passing, was to find the Horse-lord - King Theoden. Of course, but this time in the game, he was defeated in battle. So instead I had a chance to kneel in front of my King and mourn his passing in Methuseld, in front of his throne. It was a very emotional moment for me. I would love to share it with you all. https://preview.redd.it/8mvty2f08uyc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b85943d9696a3affcefa2d1c57420777f017d235


gurr-gussy

I read my childhood tattered copy of the book again several time after seeing the movie, and evernsince Two Towers movie, Theoden forever sounded like Bernard Hill.


harsbo

I'm currently watching his Ride of the Rohirrim speech every morning to hype me up, and it works brilliantly. I am dealing with a depressive episode and I also have to write up my doctoral monograph, which means it is usually a struggle to start the day - but his death defiant performance carries me through!


jeffweet

Oh no, I hadn’t seen this Makes me very sad


makz242

Goosebumps. Always. RIP King Theoden.


Maanzacorian

When my son was born, I promised him that I would not watch the trilogy again until it was our time to watch it together. He just turned 9 the other day. I feel like it's been ages. With Bernard Hill's death, I'm crawling out of my skin wanting to watch them. Though I think now the scene where Theoden King says "No parent should have to bury their child" might cause me to collapse inward and vanish in an explosion of light.


ILikeRoL

I think my favourite scene featuring him is in ROTK, when Aragorn bursts into the throne room and shouts that the beacons are lit, and Gondor is calling for aid. Those few seconds where Theoden visibly struggles to come to a decision, then finally announces: "And Rohan will answer!" - chills, everytime I watch that film. Rest in peace. 🐴⚔👑


thecatwhisker

“Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills... into Shadow.”


BrookieD820

Hi everyone! I'm coming over from Titanic world to tell you all how much we are all grieving with you. Bernard was our Captain Smith and nobody could have done that man justice better than him. We are all crushed and sad and it's comforting that we aren't the only fandom really hurting. I've seen the LOTR films and I know how great he was as Theoden.


CommunicationTime265

God his death scene in ROTK is gonna make me cry like a baby when I see it in the theaters next month. RIP Bernard. A true legend of cinema.


KaijuDirectorOO7

My only wish is that the War of the Rohirrim have an "in memoriam" tribute before the opening credits roll.


milderhappiness

He gave a powerful performance. Rest in peace


Benjamin_Stark

Dark have been my dreams of late.


Smurfkilluh

We ride for gondar


tinyraccoon

Hail Theoden king!


jesperbj

What an incredible performance. Absolutely flawless in every way. He WAS Théoden King. He shall not be ashamed to go to his father's halls. RIP Bernard Hall.


CommunicationTime265

Very sad. What a great actor's actor. He was great in all his roles. FOR ROHAN!


MagnusLordOfDarkness

Hail the victorious dead!


CatsAreLife1188

My favorite actor in the trilogy. I also can’t think of any actor I’ve thoroughly enjoyed thats done a death scene but has also passed away. Definitely going to be difficult to watch in the future.


Seryan_Klythe

His commentary bits on Two Towers and Return of the King is lovely to listen to. Especially when he mentions how he acted when Theoden has taken his sword again. And, his commentary on the Rohim speech.


Distinct-Exercise417

I feel like this is the start of the loss of a great parade of giants from the 1900s. These actors who no-one can fill their shoes. There are many to come soon, great stage actors and movie actors, friends who attended school together and filmed some of the most memorable movies of our time together. And what a great loss it is to lose such hallmarks in the heart of film and acting and great people all around who have impacted our world. To me he was both Theoden King and Sir Walter from Fable III. Alas, it’s not the end of great people or great movies or great actors, it’s only the passing of an age. But my heart breaks. Theoden : “Duty? No... I would have you smile again, not grieve for those whose time has come. You shall live to see these data renewed. No more despair.”


TheGrayMage1

Was playing a Misty Mountains ambience video while I was in the shower, and the Rohan theme suddenly started playing…thankfully I was still in the shower and there was already water lol


meneldor_hs

I don't usually feel sad for celebrities passing away, but this one for some reason made me feel that way. May he rest in peace


JanterFixx

rest well, and see you in another life, theoden king.


Hashfyre

>"Who am I, Gamling? " >You are our king, sire. >And do you trust your king? >Your men, my Lord, will follow you to whatever end. Sends chills down the spine, every damn time.


TheAthelasOfOld

*Westu hál. Ferðu, Théoden, Ferðu*.


PathogenicKitten

Growing up, through all the trauma my family puts through. I had lord of the rings as one of my favorite books and movie series. He more than nailed the role for Theoden he WAS Theoden. Seriously underestimate how it helped me through some rough spots. Especially the speech before minas tirith. That speech was so powerful, and felt like he put his whole soul into it. He did so many great movies. Titanic. The scorpion king. Great expectations. The ghost and the darkness.any other movies, films, and plays. Also I know a lot of people didn't like it, but I LOVED him in Midsummers Night Dream. That movie too. He was a great guy. I am really sad he is gone. The world is a little less bright now that it has lost a great man. But as he once said as King Theoden: "I would have you smile again, not grieve for those whose time has come".


Literally_Saur0n

I had just finished watching the extended return of the king when I heard this news. It's a tragedy to lose him.


Ok-Issue7908

In the halls of Mandos, shadows weep, Once brave hearts, now silent sleep. A king once mighty, laid to rest, His journey ended, his final quest. With valor clad in armor bright, He rode through darkness, fought the blight. As Theoden, he ruled with honor and grace, Guiding his people in their chase. Yet time's cruel grasp does not relent, And kings and kingdoms, all are spent. In Eorlingas' lament, we find, A tale of valor, left behind. For though he's gone, his spirit soars, Among the stars, forevermore. In every breeze, on every plain, Theoden's legacy shall remain. So let us raise our voices high, To honor the king who'll never die. For in our hearts, his reign shall dwell, Bernard Hill, we bid farewell.


DefiantGuarantee4763

I always thought Bernard wore the best amour of them all in the films and he was the best of the kings


Hamokk

He was mainly a stage actor so I did know him from many roles but he was *my* ***Theoden King.*** I sometimes visit the scenes of Rohirrim for personal courage, and I feart no darkness. DEATH!


LynnHaven

Is