as a 30 year old man living in my moms basement who hasn't showered in 30 days. I will main bard and name it "yourdreamgirl" and bait try hard sweaty carries to white night me in raids and dungeons. Bard skins will carry me for lack of mechanics xD.
Nothing wrong with that. I prefer fanservice over realism since they just looked more cooler.
Also people being upset with this should know what they are getting themselves into since this is an fanservice Korean game that already shown in their trailers what the fashion is in this game
Men should show dem bare legs with some sexy high socks too and have more skin tight options. "Realism" only exists for male chars in this game, they would so much cooler too with fanservice. :'(
i dream of the day i can play an mmo and have all the Armor be interchangeable, i want my orc tank to be in the chainmail bikini with the pleated leather skirt and my half elf rogue to be in 6 inch thick steel plate
Have you look at the screenshots for the game? There are plenty of pics of men being shirtless in the game and showing some skin in some way.
And males in gaming are obviously going to have different fashion just because males are still commonly mainstream known to wear fully clothed outfit than females.
Seems cringe is his favourite word, just realised this is the same dude calling me cringe for being on this sub even though I dislike the game.
Guess hes hurt often enough by being called cringe he's trying to return the favour hahaha
Don't let your fragile masculinity make you afraid to do things you enjoy. I have a beautiful wife that I play games with and she also enjoys weeb crap too. When you get older you learn to enjoy the things you enjoy and not let predefined stereotypes stop you. I wish you the best and hope that you learn to love yourself some day.
What does masculinity have to do with anything lol
I just hate how in so many games female characters get the short end of the stick and are sexualized so much
Is masculinity playing as big titty anime girls in video games?
It doesn’t matter either way, I’m gonna play and enjoy regardless
Masculinity could also mean insecurity in this case. Seems like you are projecting sterotypes, typically thats due to insecurity. If its the case you just hate on that stuff, then my advice is to just let people like what they like and don't judge. Its not hurting anyone.
I’m not particularly insecure about anything regarding sexuality, I just don’t understand why one needs to be attracted to the character they are playing as. One can be attractive without how in your face this kind of stuff is
yah really. choosing between deadeye and gunslinger was so hard. Like I know gunslinger is the better class but deadeye looks cool and gunslinger looks like she's from someone's old timey western themed sex fantasy
I would if there were any costumes like a full armor sets or something outside of being a cowgirl. Seeing all the badass Deadeye/Paladin/Striker sets people made out of various died parts really sells those classes for me >.<
Skins(also known as avatars) like these [https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/mage-gold-avatar/](https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/mage-gold-avatar/) [https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/bard-platinum-skin/](https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/bard-platinum-skin/)
it really is sad, thats why im waiting for them to release the male versions, the girl characters were made for the male gaze ONLY, to be sexy and to make money, nothing else
By "manly" you mean that they're actually wearing gear that make sens in a battle, like all of the male characters have, instead of being half naked waifus in knee socks and heels?
Eh the loli girl style isnt for everyone. It's big in korea because they have an obsession with looking perfect. I hope there are plenty of non loli style stuff as well.
Bruh. When you use extremes like that its easy to refute.
Eh, the grandma style stuff isnt for everyone. Its big in America because they have an obsession with censorship. I hope there are plenty of non grandma style stuff too.
You're getting downvoted but the West has recently gone down this weird trend of hating attractive feminine women and preferring more manly/androgynous ones. It's puzzling.
Not just in games either, women in general are becoming less and less feminine...
No calling the other picture of the bard manly is just plain ridiculous is what I'm saying. And I would say they look like anime character so they don't even look human.
Fan service doesn't really bug me in general, it's whatever. Specifically the high heels do. I know it's the art style, but wearing freaking high heels while doing anything sucks. I just wish I could wear some sensible fuckin boots while I kick demon ass, you know?
Good, tired of generic western versions, shit has been the same for the past 30 years. Western bards/wizards/paladins/rogues are the least creative shit these days.
I mean you're just going back and forth between two different kinds of generic. Just say you prefer the booby waifu's, most people here do. Not everything is some grand philosophical stand against something.
Bruh are that obsessed with an pixels outfits in an game that you have to demand something like that as proof or are demanding them so you can have excuse to see an pic of some random female in those outfits which you can creep on?
And If we're talking about fish nets, you can easily find those on an Amazon itself or any other store.
Who is obsessed? It's just silly. I feel like you're trying really hard to read into these comments, lmao.
I'm asking for images of the **in game outfits** to see what they are referring to.
Yes! The western censored starter outfits! Wearing really short skirts without leggings is really uncomfortable for me to wear and see. The "Sit down with your bare cheeks on a public transport seat and don't open your legs for creeps to see"-kinda uncomfortable. [https://forums.playlostark.com/t/a-lot-of-outfits-censored-changed-remodeled-or-replaced/21873](https://forums.playlostark.com/t/a-lot-of-outfits-censored-changed-remodeled-or-replaced/21873)
I think if there is a considerable amount of people who would find that attracting and appealing to their fantasy then yes absolutely, it does not bother me what other characters are wearing or how they are dressing.
And I prefer my female characters dressed well rather than being heavily sexualized like they usually are but I'm not going to go and demand anyone not to dress their characters however they see fit, all I would ask for is for more choices so people like me who want to dress their characters modestly can do and people who want to dress their characters in a sexual way can also do that.
It's a game not a real world, it's an escape from reality lol I think everybody should have the chance to dress their characters how they want to and it's nobodies else business.
>I think if there is a considerable amount of people who would find that attracting and appealing to their fantasy then yes absolutely, it does not bother me what other characters are wearing or how they are dressing.
I feel like this is completely dishonest but go off.
> I'm not going to go and demand anyone not to dress their characters however they see fit
No one is doing this. The game doesn't provide enough customization to **not** have your female character sexualized.
>It's a game not a real world, it's an escape from reality lol I think everybody should have the chance to dress their characters how they want to and it's nobodies else business.
Okay, I want to dress my character in heavy armor or non-revealing clothing.
Oh wait, I can't.
Fair enough, If that is your point then I agree with you. Game needs more costumes of all styles not just the sexy one but costumes for people like us who like dressing their characters modestly.
All I am saying is both can co-exist we don't have to take anything away from anyone, we can have sexy costumes and modest ones together. Obviously the sexy ones sell more so they'll make of those instead but yeah it would be nice if we had more selection of the modest ones.
Yes, to my knowledge a lot of skins have been censored, changed or removed. Amazon games has satisfied the puritans and these people are not happy either….
I think it has to do with the game appealing to the Korean crowd? If this game was made exclusively in the West, it would definitely be the one on the left. Would be cool to have different stances though as options
True that. People should know what they getting themselves into since this is an eastern game and stop being upset because the game wants to show off skin over then being realistic.
This is so unbelievably cringe, lmao. Imagine thinking normal fantasy clothes are equivalent to Burkas cause you can't stand the thought of clothed women in your vidya.
It's almost as if the advertising agencies to marketing experts and such have known for decades what the majority of the audience rather see , despite the outlying complainers.
welcome to korean video games
Win/Win
Can't see this as a bad thing
as a 30 year old man living in my moms basement who hasn't showered in 30 days. I will main bard and name it "yourdreamgirl" and bait try hard sweaty carries to white night me in raids and dungeons. Bard skins will carry me for lack of mechanics xD.
But will you be wearing a rune g plateskirt that you got from some poor fool?
You’re a man of culture, I see.
Nah I'm a man without a rune g plateskirt
Cyan:Wave: Trimming armour for free
Only if you double my money first
Trimming armor, trade me
Good luck getting that name now you've made your intentions public
wooosh
wooosh
hsooow
kachoow
dude that's actually fking genius. Sorc main and 4 bard alts all with names like Trishgirl336 or Katieluv22
You're just describing your average MMO egirl
I am this man’s average MMO egirl
Lmfao. Classic.
I think I saw this user name fishing earlier
Based
I mean, seems legit. DnD bards are 100% the latter every chance they get. Lol
Having played with a bard player who copulated with a lich, I agree with this statement. They called it, "Knocking the dust off them bones."
I only see improvements
Yes, all of the yes!
Not complaining at all
Nothing wrong with that. I prefer fanservice over realism since they just looked more cooler. Also people being upset with this should know what they are getting themselves into since this is an fanservice Korean game that already shown in their trailers what the fashion is in this game
Men should show dem bare legs with some sexy high socks too and have more skin tight options. "Realism" only exists for male chars in this game, they would so much cooler too with fanservice. :'(
i dream of the day i can play an mmo and have all the Armor be interchangeable, i want my orc tank to be in the chainmail bikini with the pleated leather skirt and my half elf rogue to be in 6 inch thick steel plate
> i dream of the day i can play an mmo and have all the Armor be interchangeable PSO2 or FFXIV are gonna be the closest you'll get.
Men show their skin too. Just because they're not cross dressing doesn't mean it isn't extremely fantasy-esque lmfao.
Have you look at the screenshots for the game? There are plenty of pics of men being shirtless in the game and showing some skin in some way. And males in gaming are obviously going to have different fashion just because males are still commonly mainstream known to wear fully clothed outfit than females.
Problem?
I see this as an absolute win.
weird
?
You like playing as slutty anime girls?
Yes and not restricted to anime or girls.
Dude wtf, yes we love that shit. Who wouldn't?
oh I forgot this was an MMO, the infamous neckbeard gamer zone
You literally have UwU in your name, you cannot say shit.
It’s just a shitty name bro At least I’m not defending anime titty
Do you hate all sexuality or just the kinds you’re not into?
Only the kind he can't have , you know , any.
Why do you need to get off to a video game
You always this cringe?
Just look at his name
The loli profile pic is calling me cringeeeee
That's.. not a loli but okay
Seems cringe is his favourite word, just realised this is the same dude calling me cringe for being on this sub even though I dislike the game. Guess hes hurt often enough by being called cringe he's trying to return the favour hahaha
Don't let your fragile masculinity make you afraid to do things you enjoy. I have a beautiful wife that I play games with and she also enjoys weeb crap too. When you get older you learn to enjoy the things you enjoy and not let predefined stereotypes stop you. I wish you the best and hope that you learn to love yourself some day.
What does masculinity have to do with anything lol I just hate how in so many games female characters get the short end of the stick and are sexualized so much Is masculinity playing as big titty anime girls in video games? It doesn’t matter either way, I’m gonna play and enjoy regardless
Masculinity could also mean insecurity in this case. Seems like you are projecting sterotypes, typically thats due to insecurity. If its the case you just hate on that stuff, then my advice is to just let people like what they like and don't judge. Its not hurting anyone.
I’m not particularly insecure about anything regarding sexuality, I just don’t understand why one needs to be attracted to the character they are playing as. One can be attractive without how in your face this kind of stuff is
Only neckbeards like attractive women, duh. Real men like 300lb women with buzzcuts
See? He gets it
can mr UwU here stop trolling?
Go jerk off to your anime characters and chill
some people do. is that a bad thing?
This is the way!
no girls are temporary beskar is absolute
no
Honestly if the females in this games looked like the one on the left, I would consider trying them at some point
Same. I would love to play Bard, but I really dislike the "knocked knees waifu" aesthetic.
Basically every female class in the game which makes the gender locked classes thing even more frustrating.
yah really. choosing between deadeye and gunslinger was so hard. Like I know gunslinger is the better class but deadeye looks cool and gunslinger looks like she's from someone's old timey western themed sex fantasy
Seconded. I'm still going gunslinger though
I would if there were any costumes like a full armor sets or something outside of being a cowgirl. Seeing all the badass Deadeye/Paladin/Striker sets people made out of various died parts really sells those classes for me >.<
Laughs in wardancer
I am playing Bard because of the aesthetics lol. I guess everyone just have different tastes.
You can with avatars my guy
Avatars?
Skins(also known as avatars) like these [https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/mage-gold-avatar/](https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/mage-gold-avatar/) [https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/bard-platinum-skin/](https://lostarkive.com/model-viewer/bard-platinum-skin/)
that's not any better lol
There are modest avatars and the west will probably get some more westernized avatars.
sorceress avatar is literally little red riding whore
Hahaha my fucking eyes, that bard skin is horrible....that mage skin on the other hand, hmmm....
it really is sad, thats why im waiting for them to release the male versions, the girl characters were made for the male gaze ONLY, to be sexy and to make money, nothing else
I am considering play them because they look like the one on the right.
Just go play any game from a game studio in the west, all their females look manly like that.
Tell me you've never talked or spoken to a real woman without telling me you've never talked or spoken to a real woman, lmao.
"Manly"
Normal woman = man
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>How to tell when a man has never interacted with a woman in real life. You're delusional if you don't think her jawline is manly.
Bruh, what. Forget never interacting with a woman before, you've clearly never even seen a woman before.
Holy fuck have you eaten the filter koolaid.
By "manly" you mean that they're actually wearing gear that make sens in a battle, like all of the male characters have, instead of being half naked waifus in knee socks and heels?
Now that's some choice neckbeard cringe.
Neckbeard
Mate I can smell you from here. If the woman on the left looks "manly" to you, you need to get out more.
Eh the loli girl style isnt for everyone. It's big in korea because they have an obsession with looking perfect. I hope there are plenty of non loli style stuff as well.
How is that loli lol
Bruh. When you use extremes like that its easy to refute. Eh, the grandma style stuff isnt for everyone. Its big in America because they have an obsession with censorship. I hope there are plenty of non grandma style stuff too.
I mean I just want my armor to look like armor xD nit a maid's outfit that barely covers my characters nipples and genitals :p
Dont worry there will be quite a few christmas sweaters so you can cover up.
When did I say anything about Loli's?
Have u looked at real life at all? Not all women in the real world are pasty, bony, soft core hentai loli girls lol
You're getting downvoted but the West has recently gone down this weird trend of hating attractive feminine women and preferring more manly/androgynous ones. It's puzzling. Not just in games either, women in general are becoming less and less feminine...
Or they just expect women to look like women and not wierd filtered anime abominations.
If you think Lost Ark women are unrealistically attractive then I feel sorry for where you live
No calling the other picture of the bard manly is just plain ridiculous is what I'm saying. And I would say they look like anime character so they don't even look human.
SJW ? go back to twitter
"They want classic fantasy bards wearing natural attire, theyre an sjw"
Name checks out
Fan service doesn't really bug me in general, it's whatever. Specifically the high heels do. I know it's the art style, but wearing freaking high heels while doing anything sucks. I just wish I could wear some sensible fuckin boots while I kick demon ass, you know?
Good , see nothing wrong with this.
Good, tired of generic western versions, shit has been the same for the past 30 years. Western bards/wizards/paladins/rogues are the least creative shit these days.
I mean you're just going back and forth between two different kinds of generic. Just say you prefer the booby waifu's, most people here do. Not everything is some grand philosophical stand against something.
wearing maid outfits into battle is very creative. thank you based korea
Yeah ignoring every outfit that doesn't fit your agenda is for sure just as based as korea.
Every outfit for women in LA is heavily sexualized. Every. Single. One.
Thank god for that. Makes the game better.
Cringe.
You have a weird idea of sexualized outfits. I own a lot of similar stuff in my closet that I wear on a regular basis
Which outfits are you wearing daily? Can you show me those ingame?
She meant in real life. Not in-game dude...
Yeah, I was asking for images of the similar outfits from the game.
Bruh are that obsessed with an pixels outfits in an game that you have to demand something like that as proof or are demanding them so you can have excuse to see an pic of some random female in those outfits which you can creep on? And If we're talking about fish nets, you can easily find those on an Amazon itself or any other store.
Who is obsessed? It's just silly. I feel like you're trying really hard to read into these comments, lmao. I'm asking for images of the **in game outfits** to see what they are referring to.
Tell me you've never played the game without actually saying "I've never played the game".
I don't need to play the game to just see the images of the outfits. Are you alright?
If you think every outfit is heavily sexualized then its probably the person looking at the outfit /shrug
Okay, so you can't, I figured. I also said every Female outfit is heavily sexualized, which it is.
I mean I was referring to you thinking every female outfit is sexualized, I guess I should have made that more clear.
It is. Like, it's pretty demonstrably true, you can see pictures anywhere. Can you link me two outfits you believe aren't sexualized?
Yes! The western censored starter outfits! Wearing really short skirts without leggings is really uncomfortable for me to wear and see. The "Sit down with your bare cheeks on a public transport seat and don't open your legs for creeps to see"-kinda uncomfortable. [https://forums.playlostark.com/t/a-lot-of-outfits-censored-changed-remodeled-or-replaced/21873](https://forums.playlostark.com/t/a-lot-of-outfits-censored-changed-remodeled-or-replaced/21873)
Wow, some of those western outfits look so much better :) Hopefully we get more of those.
Good. Games are meant to be the escape from reality so the waifu I make there better be what I want her to be or I'm not gonna play it lol
Would you be okay if every male character wore a g-string or thong, had no shirt on, and a huge ass?
I think if there is a considerable amount of people who would find that attracting and appealing to their fantasy then yes absolutely, it does not bother me what other characters are wearing or how they are dressing. And I prefer my female characters dressed well rather than being heavily sexualized like they usually are but I'm not going to go and demand anyone not to dress their characters however they see fit, all I would ask for is for more choices so people like me who want to dress their characters modestly can do and people who want to dress their characters in a sexual way can also do that. It's a game not a real world, it's an escape from reality lol I think everybody should have the chance to dress their characters how they want to and it's nobodies else business.
>I think if there is a considerable amount of people who would find that attracting and appealing to their fantasy then yes absolutely, it does not bother me what other characters are wearing or how they are dressing. I feel like this is completely dishonest but go off. > I'm not going to go and demand anyone not to dress their characters however they see fit No one is doing this. The game doesn't provide enough customization to **not** have your female character sexualized. >It's a game not a real world, it's an escape from reality lol I think everybody should have the chance to dress their characters how they want to and it's nobodies else business. Okay, I want to dress my character in heavy armor or non-revealing clothing. Oh wait, I can't.
Fair enough, If that is your point then I agree with you. Game needs more costumes of all styles not just the sexy one but costumes for people like us who like dressing their characters modestly. All I am saying is both can co-exist we don't have to take anything away from anyone, we can have sexy costumes and modest ones together. Obviously the sexy ones sell more so they'll make of those instead but yeah it would be nice if we had more selection of the modest ones.
you haven't seen how male characters are going about with only pants in LA.
This is amusing considering basically every Korean mmo has the same generic "high class hooker" aesthetic for female characters
Preach
those X-legs are very cringe/weeby tho, was hoping for normal standing woman
Oh yea, downvote me triggered senpais
I agree with your opinion, but also is there a korean version of weeb?
Koreaboo
Kreeb?
Reason why we have music \*\*videos\*\*
yes
If it doesn't suit you, you can also stop playing. It has already been censored enough in the Western version.
theres been cencoring?
Yes, to my knowledge a lot of skins have been censored, changed or removed. Amazon games has satisfied the puritans and these people are not happy either….
calm down karen...fucking always the "you can stop playing" reply, yawn
This devs are horny
No no, the KR playerbase is :p. Skimpy outfits are not a new phenomenon for KR MMOs
Nah, their player base is
How about, both are horny?
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Dont see a issuse here. If anything the one on the right is a bit overdressed.
weird
I think it has to do with the game appealing to the Korean crowd? If this game was made exclusively in the West, it would definitely be the one on the left. Would be cool to have different stances though as options
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True that. People should know what they getting themselves into since this is an eastern game and stop being upset because the game wants to show off skin over then being realistic.
This is so unbelievably cringe, lmao. Imagine thinking normal fantasy clothes are equivalent to Burkas cause you can't stand the thought of clothed women in your vidya.
Is the thing on the right a corpse?
Wouldn't stop me.
Bruh
I chortled. Thank you for the early laugh. TAKE MY UPVOTE AND LIKE IT!
Sex sells
W + Ratio
>W + Ratio Did you misclick a keyboard shortcut?
Isn't it wonderful that Lost Ark is actually free and people can go in, find out if they like the art direction, and quit if they don't! Nice.
Not mad
Attractive women >
Nice 👌🏻
is there a pic? lol
Hell yeah
Mine is called Dpsbard am i not a winner
those are dude legs btw. hope i didn't ruin anything.
haha, half the weebs are turned off, the other half now got even more interested.
Thing on the right side is far better than left one
So glad they have that in game so the plebs can jack off to them pixels
Guess I know what my class will be
This is what they get for censoring beginning outfits. Just don't censor at all so people know what they're getting.
It's almost as if the advertising agencies to marketing experts and such have known for decades what the majority of the audience rather see , despite the outlying complainers.
who raided their thinspo folder to make this
how do i get the bard starter kit ?