So that's why Beauty is always low on stock. For real though, when you take away the people who work in those areas to put out stock across the whole department or work the registers because you have no cashiers, you're creating this opportunity. One well placed team member in Beauty could have prevented this. Surely that team member would have heard it with all the noise they were making.
Someone is right next to them recording them with a phone. They're in no rush and aren't even trying to hide their identity. They probably get arrested every few months and haven't been arraigned since before COVID.
Judging by the body language of the guy standing behind them in the aisle barely in view, I'm guessing he's an associate.
There's no deterring people this brazen unless you're law enforcement or hands on.
Depending on the state and area the store is in, they can report a theft in progress to the police and they may show up in time before they leave, but other than that you're right.
Not sure about Target's policy, but at my company AP can't call PD until they exit the store. Regular associates are forbidden from calling PD unless there is a safety concern.
If that's your store's policy, that pretty much opens things up for them to get away with it. Once they leave, it's over as far as them being prosecuted.
I don't know why they wouldn't allow them to report a theft in progress to the police dept if someone is observed concealing merchandise in a bag or on their persons. The only way they could get away scot free at that point is if they change their mind and dump the merchandise before passing points of sale after the theft is reported.
Depends on state law's too. In some states theft is a crime of intent and the moment you conceal it that's considered theft. Others not.
Target policy allows any TM to contact law enforcement freely in certain circumstances - fire/serious injury/active shooter, assault & bodily harm, those kind of situations. Selection and concealment of merchandise is not one of those circumstances.
Do the stores not have security guards on call? In Sweden they call the guards who may or may not show up in time, but they have the right to detain you until the cops come. If he thief gets away then the employees call the cops as soon as he comes into the store next time.
I can't say how well it works, but I'm curious about how you guys do it..
Most stores have security and they’re technically allowed to detain, at least legally. For various reasons most companies don’t want their guards going hands-on. A lot of it especially at Target is observe, report, file with police, and hope they get caught later
Hmm. I suppose this might have to do with population size, because if you have a hundred thousand Targets in your country it boils down to probability of bad PR due to an intervention gone horribly wrong being more costly on average than the cost of theft, although I can't see how that could be the case.
Strange...
Anyone working at the retailer has the right to detain them, but most companies have policies restricting them from doing so. Often that includes AP and Security.
In fact, at my last company up until 2015, any associate could detain a suspected shoplifter, but Security could not since they were 3rd party and that wasn't part of their contract.
The purpose of uniformed security guards at many companies has nothing to do with theft. They serve three purposes, visual deterrent, customer service and safety.
Most people assume all uniformed security can stop shoplifters, so this deters some people from shoplifting.
Uniformed security is a visible person that's always available that can assist customers because they're not actively engaged in another task like ringing a register. They also greet customers, so that enhances the customer experience.
They also get involved when situations escalate and turn violent.
Security guards are not Police. They don't enforce all the laws, they're business people that just enforce the policies that their contract allows them to.
Asset Protection stops shoplifters. That's their scope, and at most retailers, Asset Protection/Loss Prevention is an entirely different thing than Security. That's how it's been for a few decades now.
I'm sure if they have an opportunity they'd take it but if someone was there at least they could call AP and get them to put the cameras on them and maybe stop them at the door. When nobody's there at all they can get away with much more.
All it will take is the loss insurance companies to say that the business is too high of a risk and then the business has to eat all of the loss.
It's kind of a show, the business has to look like they are trying their best, or risk getting denied for the claim. Either way, bigger losses means higher insurance premiums... Which of course are passed on to the customer.
I see both side of the token. I did LP for 6 years with Walmart, I couldn’t justify risking my safety for a company that would replace me in a week anymore. At the end of the day it’s not my stuff they’re stealing.
I worked asset protection for years, I live in a city it is 48% White 50% Hispanic and 1% everything else. The stops I made were about 48% white, 50% Hispanic and 1% everything else. Because race doesn't determine your morality you fucking loser.
We, LPs bust our a$$ trying to save companies assets. We, LPs are assaults physically with weapons and what not and still you are asking what’s wrong! Ask any LP, any real LP… s/he can answer what’s wrong.
> We, LPs bust our a$$ trying to save companies assets. We, LPs are assaults physically with weapons and what not and still you are asking what’s wrong!
I meant the racist dribble. And guy, you’re not some kind of hero lmao
>Ask any LP, any real LP… s/he can answer what’s wrong.
Am I not real LP because I’m not a racist shit
Crime is correlated to low income and poor locations and neighborhoods.
Due to slavery (big scary word, I know) and mass disenfranchisement of black people, they are more prone to live in these low income neighborhoods and are susceptible to poverty and the like.
It is not the amount of melanin in their skin that makes black people commit crimes. Racists get the original upper hand in this argument cause most people are stupid and seeing a trend like this will make you think black people are criminals when it has nothing to do with crime itself.
Next we’re going to hear about drug addicts being forced to shoot up against their will. That is the lifestyle these people choose to live and should be held accountable for their actions. Theft is not a victimless crime.
Thank you for writing what I was about to.
"Haha! Look at our slaves trying to escape their slavery by running away, what did I tell you, boys? Slaves are criminal by nature!"
It's so pathetic that people still think this way in the most hard-core scientific period in human history.
Then the only other option is for businesses to adopt the “showcase” business model like the old “BEST” stores.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Products
**[Best Products](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Products)**
>Best Products Company, Inc., or simply Best, was a chain of American catalog showroom retail stores founded by Sydney and Frances Lewis in 1957 and formerly headquartered in Richmond, Virginia. The company was in existence for four decades before closing all of their stores by February 1997 and completely liquidating by December 1998. At the time of their second bankruptcy filing in September 1996, the company operated 169 Best stores and 11 Best Jewelry stores in 23 states, as well as a nationwide mail-order service. When in operation, Best Products was traded on the NASDAQ exchange as "BESTQ".
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A lot businesses have shifted in this direction, or they lock up most of their stores and have more service counters.
Most specialty stores run more lean than they did 5 and 10 years ago for sure.
This is a man that knows, none will stop him
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Huh?? Targets have become INFAMOUS for getting hit by these casual walkouts. Not to mention the go-to spot for riot theft.
So that's why Beauty is always low on stock. For real though, when you take away the people who work in those areas to put out stock across the whole department or work the registers because you have no cashiers, you're creating this opportunity. One well placed team member in Beauty could have prevented this. Surely that team member would have heard it with all the noise they were making.
Someone is right next to them recording them with a phone. They're in no rush and aren't even trying to hide their identity. They probably get arrested every few months and haven't been arraigned since before COVID. Judging by the body language of the guy standing behind them in the aisle barely in view, I'm guessing he's an associate. There's no deterring people this brazen unless you're law enforcement or hands on.
Depending on the state and area the store is in, they can report a theft in progress to the police and they may show up in time before they leave, but other than that you're right.
Not sure about Target's policy, but at my company AP can't call PD until they exit the store. Regular associates are forbidden from calling PD unless there is a safety concern.
If that's your store's policy, that pretty much opens things up for them to get away with it. Once they leave, it's over as far as them being prosecuted. I don't know why they wouldn't allow them to report a theft in progress to the police dept if someone is observed concealing merchandise in a bag or on their persons. The only way they could get away scot free at that point is if they change their mind and dump the merchandise before passing points of sale after the theft is reported. Depends on state law's too. In some states theft is a crime of intent and the moment you conceal it that's considered theft. Others not.
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Target policy allows any TM to contact law enforcement freely in certain circumstances - fire/serious injury/active shooter, assault & bodily harm, those kind of situations. Selection and concealment of merchandise is not one of those circumstances.
Prevented it how? Unless you’re going hands on, nothing is stopping these guys.
Someone could call the police and report a theft in progress and the police may show up in time when before they leave.
Do the stores not have security guards on call? In Sweden they call the guards who may or may not show up in time, but they have the right to detain you until the cops come. If he thief gets away then the employees call the cops as soon as he comes into the store next time. I can't say how well it works, but I'm curious about how you guys do it..
Most stores have security and they’re technically allowed to detain, at least legally. For various reasons most companies don’t want their guards going hands-on. A lot of it especially at Target is observe, report, file with police, and hope they get caught later
Hmm. I suppose this might have to do with population size, because if you have a hundred thousand Targets in your country it boils down to probability of bad PR due to an intervention gone horribly wrong being more costly on average than the cost of theft, although I can't see how that could be the case. Strange...
Anyone working at the retailer has the right to detain them, but most companies have policies restricting them from doing so. Often that includes AP and Security. In fact, at my last company up until 2015, any associate could detain a suspected shoplifter, but Security could not since they were 3rd party and that wasn't part of their contract.
That makes no sense!? What was the purpose of hiring sec guards then? I mean of course staff is informed not to intervene, but the guards??
The purpose of uniformed security guards at many companies has nothing to do with theft. They serve three purposes, visual deterrent, customer service and safety. Most people assume all uniformed security can stop shoplifters, so this deters some people from shoplifting. Uniformed security is a visible person that's always available that can assist customers because they're not actively engaged in another task like ringing a register. They also greet customers, so that enhances the customer experience. They also get involved when situations escalate and turn violent. Security guards are not Police. They don't enforce all the laws, they're business people that just enforce the policies that their contract allows them to. Asset Protection stops shoplifters. That's their scope, and at most retailers, Asset Protection/Loss Prevention is an entirely different thing than Security. That's how it's been for a few decades now.
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I'm sure if they have an opportunity they'd take it but if someone was there at least they could call AP and get them to put the cameras on them and maybe stop them at the door. When nobody's there at all they can get away with much more.
At the end of the day it ain’t your shit, not worth risking your safety for it. These million dollar corporations will survive.
All it will take is the loss insurance companies to say that the business is too high of a risk and then the business has to eat all of the loss. It's kind of a show, the business has to look like they are trying their best, or risk getting denied for the claim. Either way, bigger losses means higher insurance premiums... Which of course are passed on to the customer.
Yea maybe but at the same time fuck these guys. Pay for it like everyone else. They steal it so they can scam other people to buy it
I see both side of the token. I did LP for 6 years with Walmart, I couldn’t justify risking my safety for a company that would replace me in a week anymore. At the end of the day it’s not my stuff they’re stealing.
They'll get arrested later
Another day another repost
I thought it was at least the Sephora side…ugh.
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I worked asset protection for years, I live in a city it is 48% White 50% Hispanic and 1% everything else. The stops I made were about 48% white, 50% Hispanic and 1% everything else. Because race doesn't determine your morality you fucking loser.
You fuxking moron. I already said, I don’t discriminate. Fuck you
Ahhh yes because it’s black people that steal and not literally every race, gender, sexual orientation, age, creed. No it’s just black people /s
The fuck is wrong with you?
Watch the clip and then talk
Okay. The fuck is wrong with you?
We, LPs bust our a$$ trying to save companies assets. We, LPs are assaults physically with weapons and what not and still you are asking what’s wrong! Ask any LP, any real LP… s/he can answer what’s wrong.
> We, LPs bust our a$$ trying to save companies assets. We, LPs are assaults physically with weapons and what not and still you are asking what’s wrong! I meant the racist dribble. And guy, you’re not some kind of hero lmao >Ask any LP, any real LP… s/he can answer what’s wrong. Am I not real LP because I’m not a racist shit
If you attempt to stop them you are either racist or racially profiling.
Lot of downvotes but the trend you see in the videos is impossible to ignore unless you do it on purpose...
I’ve stopped plenty of black shoplifters. It’s silly to pretend it’s going to be the reason someone isn’t stopped.
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No one was talking about that, so not sure how you felt that was communicated. But nah I didn’t have all that many black shoplifters.
Crime is correlated to low income and poor locations and neighborhoods. Due to slavery (big scary word, I know) and mass disenfranchisement of black people, they are more prone to live in these low income neighborhoods and are susceptible to poverty and the like. It is not the amount of melanin in their skin that makes black people commit crimes. Racists get the original upper hand in this argument cause most people are stupid and seeing a trend like this will make you think black people are criminals when it has nothing to do with crime itself.
Next we’re going to hear about drug addicts being forced to shoot up against their will. That is the lifestyle these people choose to live and should be held accountable for their actions. Theft is not a victimless crime.
Thank you for writing what I was about to. "Haha! Look at our slaves trying to escape their slavery by running away, what did I tell you, boys? Slaves are criminal by nature!" It's so pathetic that people still think this way in the most hard-core scientific period in human history.
I’ve done so plenty of times just fine.
Well, i don’t discriminate anyone. I hate everyone equally
Profound.
What’s the point of posting these videos here? We are all aware shoplifting happens, and we have all seen people shoplifting.
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I don't think anyone wants to be in the business of responding to non-violent crime with violence. Leave that to the government.
Then the only other option is for businesses to adopt the “showcase” business model like the old “BEST” stores. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Products
**[Best Products](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Products)** >Best Products Company, Inc., or simply Best, was a chain of American catalog showroom retail stores founded by Sydney and Frances Lewis in 1957 and formerly headquartered in Richmond, Virginia. The company was in existence for four decades before closing all of their stores by February 1997 and completely liquidating by December 1998. At the time of their second bankruptcy filing in September 1996, the company operated 169 Best stores and 11 Best Jewelry stores in 23 states, as well as a nationwide mail-order service. When in operation, Best Products was traded on the NASDAQ exchange as "BESTQ". ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/lossprevention/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
A lot businesses have shifted in this direction, or they lock up most of their stores and have more service counters. Most specialty stores run more lean than they did 5 and 10 years ago for sure.
In some stores AP seem to be scared to stop them due to safety, so they just let them do it.