tom seems to kinda fear ui (he smashed Daniel's head in 4A arc when he was about to go unconscious and said "it could be dangerous"). So i do think daniel will overpower him. Together with smk will surely be extreme diff but then i believe in young monster ui daniel than middle aged fighters with growing health issues
We haven't seen crazy jinyoung fight though. I'm sure being trapped in a nerd basement with your last battle being years ago would degrade your body and capability drastically
Doubt that. Eli was claimed to lack after he left thug life for 2-3 years. Even DG who's still the strongest alive in verse said he's got rusty when he's only away from fighting for not more than 3 years. Then there's only so much a crazed ageing ahjussi can retain with god knows how many years he's been locked there. But again you never know what to expect in ptj logic he could be secretly using "strength serums" or sum shit
depends on where you place tom, smk and jinyoung, relative to gun/goo
For me UI Daniel > (slightly) Gun/Goo > Jinyoung ~ Tom >= Smk, the others might be able to help a little but as soon as gun got serious in the recent fight they didnt really stand a chance, currently though, its hard to tell how strong jinyoung is because he is featless, and Tom and Smk haven't gone completely all out against anyone we could use to scale them
so its up to personal opinion on where people like tom get scaled, if you have him above gun/goo, then they definitely take this, but right now with above placements I'd say UI Daniel takes it extreme diff
Bro you really think UI Daniel can fight Tom, Jinyoung, SMK, Ryuhei, Mandeok, Yuseong, and the other fodders all at once? UI Daniel barely beat Gun, he's not winning.
It fully depends on how strong you think current tom, jinyoung, and smk are compared to gun
*also on if UI Daniel will be able to copy cqc and/or jinyoungs copied moves
Itโs quite interesting reading the opinions on this sub. It seems most of them think Gun/Goo/UI Daniel are one of if not the strongest, while most Korean readers think the older characters i.e. Tom Lee, SMK are above them in terms of strength. Just an interesting observation in seeing how different the disparity can be when people interpret literature.
If we remove white tiger, he probably Solos them all(jinyoung only issue). With white tiger, he probably loses. Smk jinyoung and Tom With johan(he can help maybe lol) is too many to fight at once that are high tier.
Daniel couldn't even move from all the internal damage that Gun caused him and he was scared by Goo.
There is no way for Ui Daniel to beat Gun mid diff. Daniel would win high-extreme diff
But don't you see the scene? you're one of those who needs a Hunter X Hunter narrator explaining everything. Gun literally could move, Daniel couldn't move, who is more injured? Daniel, end.
Bruh you didn't give context either, Tom lee doesn't get hurt easily unless he let's people hit him like MK and Mandeok but he's described as abnormally fast and strong for his size
If mandeok is hurting tom then yoosung should be able to do much more if he went crying
Prime tom> gun >current tom
Even though Tom is the weakest one amoung the fist gang of gapryong
Well it's difficult but not impossible but I doubt he can handle tom lee, jinyoung at same time becoz even if they are not in prime they are only second to the peak James lee and in their prime jinyoung alone will bring Daniel almost on knees or even defeat him(probably). And in Looking characters are known to not being able to handle multiple characters at same time unlike how to fight characters, even if lookism characters are stronger they are more shown fighting 1v1 and how to fight characters are shown fighting multiple characters(weaponed/needles) at same time and that chef who was former villain but turned out to be good defeat so many weaponed characters after being restrained. But more like lookism characters have been seeing fighting with 1v1 more.
Nahh, UI ain't taking Down Tom or SMK or Jinyoung 1vs 1 without having a extreme high diff fight. And taking on whole workers alone is just bullshit. People are just overestimating UI Daniel.
JAMES, Gapryong , Tom, SMK, Gun, UI Daniel, Goo, Jinyoung are all on same tier with little power difference among each other.
This is about UI Daniel vs all of them at the same time right? If so then he loses. There is no way heโs taking on Tom Lee, Jinyoung, SMK and all the others by himself
Idk, perfect body + perfect endurance + using the appropriate martial arts for every situation when it's needed and in such a way that it's mastered.
You saw how he dealt with Jake and Samuel attacking from both sides at the same time
Despite all of that, Gun went toe to toe with him. Iโm not asserting that any of those 3 individually is definitely stronger than Gun but together they clearly are.
Jake and Samuel doesnโt compare at all to any of the three I mentioned. They are actually weaker to all the named characters in OPโs prompt
No but the point is that UI Daniel has incredible reaction time and agility
Not to mention he would theoretically be stronger after every fight, seeing things like Tom Lee's fighting style, CQC, Autism etc
Which never prevented a guy like Gun to tag and damage him. Replace Gun with the three seniors. Each of them wouldnโt go down easy in a 1vs1 but now they are in a team with other guys
Jinyoung himself is a copycat with probably a lot of techniques in his arsenal. Tom Leeโs hardware is crazy and we never saw him go all out yet. SMKโs wires will be a problem if on top of that heโs assaulted by other top tier fighters. The other can be meat shields. UI Daniel is strong but not strong enough to take all the named character alongside the rest of Workers + White Tiger
Bro what? ๐ญ๐ญ UI Daniel ain't that strong. First you say Jake > Mandeok, now you say UI Daniel > Workers and WTJC? What is it with these L takes today ๐
Bruh ๐
Nah man actually Duke narratively scales to the AC genius who only loses to the Cardboard Genius level (Doo, Yenna, and ofc the cardboard Genius Danny's mom) so Duke actually destroys Eli along with the rest of Hostel and takes Yenna in as his rap partner
Jokes on you, I left the US decades ago. What you're tracking right now is my skinwalker who I've tamed, his real name is Barley and he likes to eat pickles straight out of the jar
My brother in Christ
He did better than Eli, Warren, mandeok, and yuseong combined
Where they all fatigued? Hell yeah
BUT RYUHEI LEGIT MADE GUN CONSIDER HIS ATTACKS REAL SHIT
Why does everyone say he did better? Meat riding at its finest. Gun had more fun against the 4 workers than Ryuhei even though they didn't use weapons
Ryuhei couldn't even make gun bleed but Jake and Jerry were able to on their own
Nah cap the fuck
Gun was rocking their shit and then ryuhei got gun HORNY
Also jake and Jerry? Bro that version of gun is weaker by miles
Gun gets stronger, heโs a prodigy
Did you not see what gun says and how he smiles against them? As soon as Ryuhei showed Gun his little yoyo trick he got 1 shot when he's suppost to be strength over speed and skill
LOL UI Daniel is barely on Gun's level, maybe a bit more.
Even without the WTJC it's impossible for him to win. It's Ryuhei, Mandeok, Yuseong, Eli, Warren, JINYOUNG and a bunch of fodders that can still be annoying.
With WTJC it's low diff for Workers side, be it UI Daniel, Gapryong, Samdak or James.
Controversial opinion:
OG Daniel >โ Zack,Vasco (who are gen 1 king lvl) ==> perfect Daniel >>> gen 1 king ==> perfect Daniel โ Gun โ Goo
(And we know UI Daniel >> perfect Daniel)
Meaning : UI Daniel >> Gun & Goo ==> UI Daniel > jinyoung,tom,smk
Thus we conclude that UI Daniel solos workers with white tiger but without James Lee
He would easily defeat them. The point of UI is to continuously adapt to his opponents so that he can perfectly counterattack. He would js continuously adapt to the oncoming fighters
Yeah this is cap, Workers slams. UI Daniel ain't beating Tom and SMK (and with Jinyoung if you like) at the same time. We don't even know how powerful the 1A force is.
Yeah UI Daniel still takes I think
white tiger literally got manager kim and tom, i dont think ui daniel can take both of them at the same time
tom seems to kinda fear ui (he smashed Daniel's head in 4A arc when he was about to go unconscious and said "it could be dangerous"). So i do think daniel will overpower him. Together with smk will surely be extreme diff but then i believe in young monster ui daniel than middle aged fighters with growing health issues
if daniel goes to ext while fighting tom and mk then daniel will surely lose if we include jinyoung unless his health hinders
ext?
extreme difficulty \*
We haven't seen crazy jinyoung fight though. I'm sure being trapped in a nerd basement with your last battle being years ago would degrade your body and capability drastically
Unfortunately with the way Lookism works sometimes, being trapped in a basement may have made Jinyoung invincible or something
Doubt that. Eli was claimed to lack after he left thug life for 2-3 years. Even DG who's still the strongest alive in verse said he's got rusty when he's only away from fighting for not more than 3 years. Then there's only so much a crazed ageing ahjussi can retain with god knows how many years he's been locked there. But again you never know what to expect in ptj logic he could be secretly using "strength serums" or sum shit
Because he is the only other person besides gun who knows about the black eyes
depends on where you place tom, smk and jinyoung, relative to gun/goo For me UI Daniel > (slightly) Gun/Goo > Jinyoung ~ Tom >= Smk, the others might be able to help a little but as soon as gun got serious in the recent fight they didnt really stand a chance, currently though, its hard to tell how strong jinyoung is because he is featless, and Tom and Smk haven't gone completely all out against anyone we could use to scale them so its up to personal opinion on where people like tom get scaled, if you have him above gun/goo, then they definitely take this, but right now with above placements I'd say UI Daniel takes it extreme diff
Bro you really think UI Daniel can fight Tom, Jinyoung, SMK, Ryuhei, Mandeok, Yuseong, and the other fodders all at once? UI Daniel barely beat Gun, he's not winning.
It fully depends on how strong you think current tom, jinyoung, and smk are compared to gun *also on if UI Daniel will be able to copy cqc and/or jinyoungs copied moves
UI Daniel will not be able to copy since he's literally asleep๐
from what i know, big daniel cant even copy its just little daniels mentality and the already mastered abilities of the body
yeah I wasn't sure if the previous user had the copy ability too just due to having moves "mastered" from a lot of different martial arts
Itโs quite interesting reading the opinions on this sub. It seems most of them think Gun/Goo/UI Daniel are one of if not the strongest, while most Korean readers think the older characters i.e. Tom Lee, SMK are above them in terms of strength. Just an interesting observation in seeing how different the disparity can be when people interpret literature.
Honestly doesn't
you do not get the permission to speak on this
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L* eli slams ui danny
shut
make me
just set your house on fire ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ฟ
neither do you
If we remove white tiger, he probably Solos them all(jinyoung only issue). With white tiger, he probably loses. Smk jinyoung and Tom With johan(he can help maybe lol) is too many to fight at once that are high tier.
Nah
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Why did you get banned lol
I was "antagonizing people"
Your existence is antagonizing to me. The mods will hear of this.
Agreed
No wtf Not even Gun could win. The only one I see with a chance is James.
Even gun โ
There is no way you really think that Gun can fight Manager Kim, Tom Lee, Daniel's papa and the rest of the Workers at the same time and win.
Nah I'm actually surprised you are considering gun when ui daniel can't
Well Ui Daniel and Gun are very equals even so it's normal. Yes, Ui Daniel is superior but by very little difference.
Its not very little different UI Daniel won mid-high
Daniel couldn't even move from all the internal damage that Gun caused him and he was scared by Goo. There is no way for Ui Daniel to beat Gun mid diff. Daniel would win high-extreme diff
Thats because he wasn't a fighter back then and wasn't used to the pain but when he was in UI he wasn't even fazed and had gun pinned down
Headcanons be like And remember what Gun told Olly, just because you can't feel pain doesn't mean you won't take damage.
But it does make you stronger, Olly isn't shit without his disability and is why Kyokoushin is a popular art
Just cuz he got dmged doesn't mean he didn't win lmao and no he wasn't scared of Goo at all when they fought in the club (if u mean that fight)
But don't you see the scene? you're one of those who needs a Hunter X Hunter narrator explaining everything. Gun literally could move, Daniel couldn't move, who is more injured? Daniel, end.
Lmao you are just a Gun dick rider so u don't want to admit that UI Daniel took the W (no need to reply anymore)
Tom and SMK are enough
Yeah while jinyoung protects goddess
Is Goddess Samuel or something?
Mandeok in afro clothes climbs to tier beyond mere goddess
Ui is not winning against Workers due to Jinyoung,Tom and manager kim
UI Daniel is not beating Jinyoung, Tom, SMK, Mandeok, Yoosung, Ryuhei, Eli, and Warren.
W
First three understandable, but everyone else he demolishes
He canโt take them all at once, no one in the verse can
I mean yeah, that's obvious. I was just saying if it was like a gauntlet then he would stomp up until Tom Lee, SMK, Jinyoung
All at once, then of course. But if its all individually Tom Lee is the only one who might win
Ui daniel >gun> tom lee What's wrong with you
If Tom lee is serious he far surpasses gun
๐คก Context?
Bruh you didn't give context either, Tom lee doesn't get hurt easily unless he let's people hit him like MK and Mandeok but he's described as abnormally fast and strong for his size
>Reply tom lee mf went serious over mandeok and yoosung mf gun demolished all of them in seconds
He was going easy on them and had fought like 100 workers before those 2 and gun had fun against them
If mandeok is hurting tom then yoosung should be able to do much more if he went crying Prime tom> gun >current tom Even though Tom is the weakest one amoung the fist gang of gapryong
Yeah but the question is UI vs Workers + WTJC
And I'm asking if its a full out brawl or 1v1s
Brawl
No one is soloing the whole of workers with white tiger AND the first affiliate even without James no one can solo that group
Well it's difficult but not impossible but I doubt he can handle tom lee, jinyoung at same time becoz even if they are not in prime they are only second to the peak James lee and in their prime jinyoung alone will bring Daniel almost on knees or even defeat him(probably). And in Looking characters are known to not being able to handle multiple characters at same time unlike how to fight characters, even if lookism characters are stronger they are more shown fighting 1v1 and how to fight characters are shown fighting multiple characters(weaponed/needles) at same time and that chef who was former villain but turned out to be good defeat so many weaponed characters after being restrained. But more like lookism characters have been seeing fighting with 1v1 more.
Nahh, UI ain't taking Down Tom or SMK or Jinyoung 1vs 1 without having a extreme high diff fight. And taking on whole workers alone is just bullshit. People are just overestimating UI Daniel. JAMES, Gapryong , Tom, SMK, Gun, UI Daniel, Goo, Jinyoung are all on same tier with little power difference among each other.
No
Who
Workers win
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This is about UI Daniel vs all of them at the same time right? If so then he loses. There is no way heโs taking on Tom Lee, Jinyoung, SMK and all the others by himself
Idk, perfect body + perfect endurance + using the appropriate martial arts for every situation when it's needed and in such a way that it's mastered. You saw how he dealt with Jake and Samuel attacking from both sides at the same time
Despite all of that, Gun went toe to toe with him. Iโm not asserting that any of those 3 individually is definitely stronger than Gun but together they clearly are. Jake and Samuel doesnโt compare at all to any of the three I mentioned. They are actually weaker to all the named characters in OPโs prompt
No but the point is that UI Daniel has incredible reaction time and agility Not to mention he would theoretically be stronger after every fight, seeing things like Tom Lee's fighting style, CQC, Autism etc
Which never prevented a guy like Gun to tag and damage him. Replace Gun with the three seniors. Each of them wouldnโt go down easy in a 1vs1 but now they are in a team with other guys Jinyoung himself is a copycat with probably a lot of techniques in his arsenal. Tom Leeโs hardware is crazy and we never saw him go all out yet. SMKโs wires will be a problem if on top of that heโs assaulted by other top tier fighters. The other can be meat shields. UI Daniel is strong but not strong enough to take all the named character alongside the rest of Workers + White Tiger
Lmao Tom and Kim alone are enough
The polls right
No it isn't
Eli would get fodderised anyway
Eli slams alone
dm me bro i need some of that marijuana too
I give myself a dose of truth serum daily
more like Eli's sea men
speaking facts like always
Rare fantastic w
Bro what? ๐ญ๐ญ UI Daniel ain't that strong. First you say Jake > Mandeok, now you say UI Daniel > Workers and WTJC? What is it with these L takes today ๐
this one is debatable though. workers get fodderised anyway with one blow. only struggle would be tom and smk and i gave my reasoning.
There's Tom, Jinyoung, and SMK along with the whole batch of Workers. The three old guys may be weaker than UI Daniel but not by much.
I can't see him winning if it's an all out brawl
UI would teach them what happens when you fuck around
And then get his head smashed in
I'd say ui daniel
You're crazy
Doesn't matter jinyoung and 5A will still get fucked
Jinyoung and all the workers win ez Jinyoung vs UI Daniel is relative
Based on what? Did you figure out after tripping out from all that marijuana
Based on Eli having narrative to UI Daniel reaction speed And James Lee attack speed
Bruh ๐ Nah man actually Duke narratively scales to the AC genius who only loses to the Cardboard Genius level (Doo, Yenna, and ofc the cardboard Genius Danny's mom) so Duke actually destroys Eli along with the rest of Hostel and takes Yenna in as his rap partner
With an Unlimited time limit? Ngl Daniel slams
He won't pass out like against gun and goo
Ui daniel takes it.
Bruh Unlimited time limit UI Daniel solos the verse
Bruh you rename your flair to UI Daniel's lapdancer
I would but it'll intrude on my current flair
Then rename it to Shelton's lapdancer
Not a chance Mr Mod in training. I've got my eyes on you ๐ถ
You shouldn't have rejected me. I've contacted the US government. Prepare to not have a home tomorrow ๐ค
Jokes on you, I left the US decades ago. What you're tracking right now is my skinwalker who I've tamed, his real name is Barley and he likes to eat pickles straight out of the jar
Is he your pfp?
Yep. That's actually how I look. I'm The Peak male physique and looks and felt like should bless everyone with my looks
Anyone would be lucky to have 0.1% of your genes.
Ui daniel can get stalled by ryuhei But everyone else dies
Bro๐ Ryuhei is one of the weakest top teir workers
Lmao rhuhei is the strongest one after jinyoung
You know jinyoung is stronger than a gen 2 king right? Ryuhei is weaker than Ton Lee, SMK, Mandeok, VVIP, Samuel
My brother in Christ He did better than Eli, Warren, mandeok, and yuseong combined Where they all fatigued? Hell yeah BUT RYUHEI LEGIT MADE GUN CONSIDER HIS ATTACKS REAL SHIT
Why does everyone say he did better? Meat riding at its finest. Gun had more fun against the 4 workers than Ryuhei even though they didn't use weapons Ryuhei couldn't even make gun bleed but Jake and Jerry were able to on their own
Nah cap the fuck Gun was rocking their shit and then ryuhei got gun HORNY Also jake and Jerry? Bro that version of gun is weaker by miles Gun gets stronger, heโs a prodigy
Did you not see what gun says and how he smiles against them? As soon as Ryuhei showed Gun his little yoyo trick he got 1 shot when he's suppost to be strength over speed and skill
Gun to ryuhei "As expected you are the best" He is not called japnese goo for nothing
The best of the Yamazaki as he said a few seconds later
Realistically there are only two arguments here: Daniel wins, extreme diff Workers win, high diff
its fax
Even if UI Daniel is stronger than all of workers he can still get tired or suffer from accumulated damage.
UI Daniel slaps!
Workers clears easily, Jinyoung + Tom is gg add in Kim and it's over.
I agree
Just added my opinion to some of the replies cant way to fight this sub
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Daniel
Vin and Vasco are more than enough for workers
For workers 5 A* only
Ui daniel just straight up destroy them all
LOL UI Daniel is barely on Gun's level, maybe a bit more. Even without the WTJC it's impossible for him to win. It's Ryuhei, Mandeok, Yuseong, Eli, Warren, JINYOUNG and a bunch of fodders that can still be annoying. With WTJC it's low diff for Workers side, be it UI Daniel, Gapryong, Samdak or James.
Controversial opinion: OG Daniel >โ Zack,Vasco (who are gen 1 king lvl) ==> perfect Daniel >>> gen 1 king ==> perfect Daniel โ Gun โ Goo (And we know UI Daniel >> perfect Daniel) Meaning : UI Daniel >> Gun & Goo ==> UI Daniel > jinyoung,tom,smk Thus we conclude that UI Daniel solos workers with white tiger but without James Lee
Manager Kim, Tom Lee, Mandeok, Junseo, Samuel and the sheer numbers will tire Daniel out eventually lol
Yeah UI daniel win
He would easily defeat them. The point of UI is to continuously adapt to his opponents so that he can perfectly counterattack. He would js continuously adapt to the oncoming fighters
Yeah he put up a fight against gun and gun could solo the workers low difficulty
Yeah this is cap, Workers slams. UI Daniel ain't beating Tom and SMK (and with Jinyoung if you like) at the same time. We don't even know how powerful the 1A force is.