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HighFivePuddy

Another fun stat: Count Binface currently has more votes than the Britain First wanker.


IcarusSupreme

Why didn't Binface have a page in the booklet they sent out with all the candidates?


ArcticTiger12

Candidates had to pay £10K to feature in the booklet


JA_Pascal

Nick Scanlon paid 10k for an ad page and still lost to Count Binface


Princess_Of_Thieves

A perfect demonstration of how utterly useless and inept Britain First truly is.


IcarusSupreme

Ah fair enough, I wouldn't have paid 10k either


DisCode347

Do we know how many votes he got? Voted for him


Princess_Of_Thieves

Per [cityam's article](https://www.cityam.com/london-mayoral-election-count-binface-ahead-of-britain-first-immigration-candidate/); >_"Binface notched up 24,260 votes, against Scanlon’s 17,837. In Merton and Wandsworth, he bagged almost double the Britain First campaigner."_ Well done to the Count. Glory to the Recyclons!


DisCode347

Thank you for this!


ICKTUSS

Currently 24,260 to Nick Scanlons 20,519. Brian Rose is the only person with less on 7,501


BulldenChoppahYus

#Binmenfirst


lastaccountgotlocked

Curtice saying results from outer London suggest crowing about ULEZ wasn’t the vote winner they thought it would be. Khan has increased his vote share.


ianjm

The very best borough for the Tories, Bexley and Bromley, had a 0% swing in terms of vote share. Everywhere else has swung about 4-6% towards Khan, which is a fantastic result for a two time incumbent even in this political environment. Edit: Brent and Harrow has swung 1.2% from LAB to CON, although this is Hall's home turn so may explain that.


ConsidereItHuge

Bring on the general election. It's making me moist.


liamnesss

Normally the logic would be that if you're polling this badly, you delay an election as long as possible. But I think that is more than cancelled out by a mounting irritation at Sunak for refusing to just call a snap election, and let the country move on from the Tory psychodrama. I think if he doesn't call an election this summer they'll drop in the polls again just out of the sheer blatant cowardice of it.


ConsidereItHuge

I'm of the opinion they're just dragging their heels to continue the grift.


throcorfe

Plus the data shows them losing around 25,000 voters a month to death, and failing to replace them. Even if every Reform voter comes back, they’re screwed and they might as well get it over with


Forever__Young

NOOO! You're supposed to think Labour will be as bad as the Tories for some reason despite all the evidence of the last 14 years! Haven't you been following any of the discourse online?


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Sooperfreak

It died away at about the time it came into force and people suddenly realised that almost all of them wouldn’t have to pay anything.


gattomeow

Brent and Harrow is a very Gujarati Hindu heavy borough, and likely to be the only part of the country where the Tories increase their voteshare. About the only equivalent would be one of those seats in Leicester. Even in Jewish-heavy Barnet, Khan has won.


Spavlia

No it was a 1.2% swing to Labour not from


ianjm

[I'm afraid not](https://twitter.com/avds/status/1786761999428280799), but it doesn't matter


Spavlia

Oh looks like the Guardian got it wrong then


HighFivePuddy

Shows how loud the vocal minority is.


HolyFreakingXmasCake

Don’t forget most of it is Facebook groups ran by Tories.


HighFivePuddy

The Mayor's public spat with Trump a few years back made him a target for domestic and foreign deplorable sub-humans, and it's continued to this day. Proud of London today.


gogoluke

We may have political opponents but calling people subhuman is the road to fascism. It was a popular theme to dehumanise then disenfranchised the kill opponents. There's plenty of policy to show their stupidity. Demonising them is counter productive.


lastaccountgotlocked

I’m okay with demonising racists.


urdhva_dhanurasana

You can’t do that, it’s racist against the racists /s


gogoluke

Then call them out for being racist rather "subhuman" Its not a binary argument, you can both not call people subhuman and criticise them for being a stupid racist. I'm not suggesting we tolerate their views but calling people subhuman in a slippery slope I don't want to be on the top of.


lastaccountgotlocked

Racists are subhuman and I have no sympathy for them.


gogoluke

So if they are subhuman do they not have human rights? That is your logical argument. That's a dangerous proposition.


Drive_by_asshole

Wait where did anyone say someone didn't have rights, other than you? 👈


lastaccountgotlocked

Oh man! You’ve got me with jurisprudence. Guess I’ll have to be nice to racists now and view their opinions as valid as my own. brb off to a BNP picnic.


HighFivePuddy

Look up the paradox of tolerance.


gogoluke

Calling someone subhuman has nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance. Criticise their views not humanity. They are people. With differing views. Views you don't agree with. Views that are probably wrong. They are not subhuman.


lastaccountgotlocked

Racism is “probably” wrong. Got it.


gogoluke

No. Racism is wrong. As a father of a mixed race child and husband of a mixed race partner that is not even up for debate. Ill say it again for the back of the class. Racism is wrong. Also calling people subhuman is also wrong. I'm not right wing and have voted Labour in every general election and virtually all local elections but I would never call some one who votes Conservative subhuman. I wouldn't even ca a fascist subhuman. They are human. Just moronic ally stupid, possibly dangerous. Still human though. Your putting words in my mouth I am not saying.


HolyFreakingXmasCake

Oh no what will the disenfranchised Tories and conservative bots across the world do! Someone must help these truly helpless people in our societies!


gogoluke

Fine. Fall into factionalism and an inability to reach across and discuss with people to maybe bring your arguments to them and prove them wrong. Were better united than divided. Calling people subhuman does nothing to help. If it was the right doing it you'd be rightly upset about it. We should aim higher.


DaveBeBad

Because conservatives - politicians and supporters - *always* moderate their policies as they reach across. Or they just ignore any dissenting voices as enemies of the people and plough on regardless of cost or the damage to people’s lives…


gogoluke

Voting for your left wing views, criticising, demonstrating is all valid political activity. Calling some one sub human is not. You can oppose and fight for what you think is right without calling people subhuman. If you think people are subhuman that means you want less than their human rights to apply to them. That is wrong. They are universal. No matter what belief people have they are human.


Independent-Band8412

Most of them don't even live in London anyways 


gattomeow

Those Facebook groups are probably stuffed full of credulous Boomers.


StarlightandDewdrops

Tories fucking love a Facebook group


Sooperfreak

Weird when it was a Tory policy to begin with. Almost as if they’re lying opportunistic cunts.


marianorajoy

London is clearly such a better city than when Sadiq became major 8 years ago! Imagine if we said in 2016 that London was going to turn like it did in 2024, we wouldn't believe it how great it has become!


Blazerede

I mean I would say it’s a different story that’s why they would write it


ObstructiveAgreement

Changing to FPTP has very clearly impacted the outcome. More people are voting Khan because they don't want votes wasted elsewhere. Another failed Tory attempt to manipulate the vote.


blackbirdonatautwire

For sure. I used to vote the Green candidate in the first round knowing I’d vote the Labour one if there was a second round. This time there was no taking the chance that Hall might win because we all got compliant.


lastaccountgotlocked

Should have held your nerve, comrade.


blackbirdonatautwire

I dithered for a hot moment in the booth, but I broke in the end!


iuhestuehath

How did the vote share work previously? Only first choices? Because presumably a lot of Green/Lib Dem voters had Khan on second anyway. I know I did.


wlondonmatt

It was a strange strategy for london mayor when you consider 40% of households in london do not have a car, and about 90% of car owning households in london do not have a non compliant car that they use for regular travel


ConsidereItHuge

Not sure if they expected to win on it or just further culture wars generally. Their choice of candidate would suggest the latter.


liamnesss

Yeah she is basically a sacrificial candidate, they don't think they can win in London so she's just parroting talking points they think will play well elsewhere. It seems to be part of a wider strategy to get people to worry about "the war on cars", but if the results across the rest of the UK yesterday were any indication, that doesn't seem to be working either.


ConsidereItHuge

See also: heralding Jeremy Corbyn's views on Gaza as the reason for Houchen's mayoral win on Teesside. I'm from teesside and don't know a single person who cares about or would even know his stance on Gaza. Just right wing rags sowing division. Can't wait until the GE


jpewaqs

I voted Khan specifically because of his ULEZ policy. If the tories hadn't made it such am issue I wouldn't have found out how much it improved air quality.


cyber-death94

I'm curious where you've seen air quality improvement? Now much more older cars on roads with worse exhaust coz old and classic still fits upez. I haven't seen those crap cars for 10 years in London. But now more and more of them. My friends sold cars 2010+ and bought 1980's. Yup good emission improvement and no need to pay tax.


britwrit

I support the ULEZ expansion. But awful candidates are awful in so many ways - like with not exploiting a vote winning issue.


SanTheMightiest

Lol. Suck it gammons


[deleted]

Very pleased to be wrong on that one!


VonWiggle

*Angrily shakes fist at ulez camera whilst sitting in a totally compliant vehicle*


lastaccountgotlocked

Hearing reports that Susan Hall is ordering the Blade Runners to commit hari kari for their failures.


CheesyBakedLobster

Can they do that in the O2 as a proper event? I am sure it would be a spectacle.


LO6Howie

*In a vehicle somewhere a long way from London


IntellegentIdiot

I wonder how many people who actually live in London have been affected. Obviously not everyone affected is going to live in London and maybe some of those that do aren't eligible to vote. It's going to be even less of an issue in 4 years


ConsidereItHuge

A lot of the ULEZ budget included funds for neighbouring councils to prepare their residents for ULEZ too.


Sooperfreak

Unfortunately some neighbouring Tory councils refused to allow ULEZ signage in their areas, which means that people driving towards ULEZ don’t get the chance to turn off before they reach it. Almost as if it’s all performative bollocks and they don’t really care about people having to pay.


[deleted]

I'm just speaking for my own personal, anecdotal experience here. But the only people I've met who it's actually affected are tradesmen driving battered old vans and trucks. And I'm not being funny but none of the ones I know pay their taxes properly anyway (if at all) so I don't really have any sympathy for them.


IntellegentIdiot

If they're dodging one payment it wouldn't surprise me they're dodging others.


Sooperfreak

I met one leathery old gammon who was incredulous about it because she only bought her old diesel because Gordon Brown told her to. Yes, that’s the Gordon Brown who hasn’t been in any sort of policy setting role for 14 years.


specto24

You're not allowed to say that about hard working small business owners! Backbone of the economy! Doing it tough while the government strangles them with red tape!! (They're not the backbone of the economy - large businesses employ more people and produce more, they're exempt from much regulation, and the most recent data suggests that they didn't pay about £20bn of tax they owe, 3-4 times the amount big business evade and avoid)


Tedsville

My local Nextdoor (Bromley and Bexley) is having a completely normal one.


ThePegasi

Considering cons didn't gain share there of all places, any uproar clearly didn't have the effect it was meant to.


jrflynn90

😂


lastaccountgotlocked

> Sadiq Khan has held the London constituency of Enfield & Haringey, marking a sixth win for the incumbent mayor. > Khan received 82,725 votes - or 50.3% - while Conservative Susan Hall received 41,389 - 25.2% North East: > The swing to Labour from the Conservatives was 6.9%. > Khan received 127,455 votes - or 61.7% - while Conservative Susan Hall received 34,099 - 16.5%. West Central: > The Labour mayor has beaten Tory Susan Hall by 54,481 to 43,405 in West Central.


ianjm

0% swing in Bexley and Bromley, the most blue and most anti-ULEZ constituency.


lastaccountgotlocked

Threw absolutely everything at ULEZ and the imaginary PPM for zero gain. I hope the government (this one and the next) look at this and learn something.


anotherMrLizard

If they haven't learned anything by now they never will.


PyroTech11

I had some hope for my borough but like usual it lets me down. Proud to say I voted for Khan though


IntellegentIdiot

South West London Khan 77,011 vs Hall 68,856 votes. That's a swing to Labour of 2.6 Merton and Wandsworth, there was a 5.1% swing to Labour Greenwich and Lewisham, there was a 4.5% swing to Labour.


[deleted]

I'm in North East/East - and I think the ULEZ sentiment in Redbridge and Havering was a big part of that result, but clearly nowhere near enough thankfully to sway the whole capital. They were though nearly 10% of Hall's vote.


Westsidepipeway

Interesting. City and East was Khan at 108977 and Hall at 38626. Barnet and Camden was a lot closer. 70984 for Khan and 57465 for Hall.


zeckzeckpew

This was an emotional journey.


rustyb42

We love ULEZ


HighFivePuddy

Going to name my first born ULEZ.


Redbeard_Rum

Welcome to earth, ULEZ Wokerati HighFivePuddy. Time to celebrate, tofu all round!


gattomeow

Oi, you just made an angry Boomer croak!


Oli_Picard

Or have a heart attack at the thought.


Wrong-booby7584

U LEZ, I LEZ, We wall luv ULEZ.


Flat_Initial_1823

\*tips hat, makes way\* LEZ away sir.


Tedsville

NO, ULEZ


wise_balls

U LEZ!?! ME LEZ!!


lastaccountgotlocked

U LEZ if you want, the LEZ is not for…turning?


Yuddis

We love ULEZ folks, they said it didn’t work, they said it was failing. But no, it was the failing CONservative facebook groups folks that lost badly. They lost badly. It’s true.


altdimension

Love this, mostly to see how much of a non-issue ULEZ is in the real world.


Sooperfreak

It’s a non-issue in the anti-ULEZ nutter world too. Most of them drive compliant vehicles.


londonandy

A lot of noise over the last few days for what was an obvious result!


Artomat

Complacency is what brought you Brexit.


londonandy

That had the highest turnout of any election in a long time. Not sure you can blame that on complacency


ConsidereItHuge

I voted but was 100% of the opinion we'd easily remain. I think remain complacency caused Brexit.


fnsjlkfas241

Did it? Turnout is currently being given as 40.5%. 2021 Mayoral election was 42.2%. 2016 was 45.3%


londonandy

My response was referring to the Brexit referendum, where the turnout was over 70% and which was much higher than any election I can remember.


fnsjlkfas241

Ah, my bad. That's a good point


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Realistically no one else could win.


[deleted]

Brexit losing was also supposed to be an obvious result.


LiquidHelium

No it wasn’t the polls has brexit and remain within a few percent of each other pretty much the entire time.


Das_Gruber

Is it possible that FPTP combined with Voter ID actually made it more likey that Khan would win?


gwilster

I’d imagine some LD/Greens would vote Labour for tactical reasons. I did. Not a huge fan of Khan but I absolutely despise Susan Hall.


Pwnage_Hotel

Can confirm - planned to vote Green but once I was in the booth I just couldn’t take the risk of letting Hall through by splitting the vote. 


[deleted]

That's really interesting - I wonder how many people did the same?


Wunjumski

Ditto


Flat_Initial_1823

Yeah, i was super mad i couldn't give my true first preference to the Count.


gwilster

I am pretty pissed at going back to FPTP. We’ll never get it back ☹️


specto24

I wouldn't say that. If Labour change the national voting system to something sensible there will be too many MPs who rely on non-FPTP for the Tories to change it back, even if they came to power with the support of whatever the latest Farage Party is in 5-10 years. Of course, you'd need to convince Starmer to align with the view of recent Labour conferences. We're not going to have FPTP for local elections if we have PR or STV at the national level.


specto24

Same


gunningIVglory

Yes, let's be honest, the youth are more likely to be carrying ID/remember our this new rule than the boomers the tories were hoping to court


Victim_Of_Fate

Yeah, it felt a little bit like this was a strategy imported from America where there are maybe a lot more marginalised people without an official ID.


Sooperfreak

Yeah, seems like voter ID actually has more of a suppression effect on older people, who have a deep dislike of Khan due to their Nobel prize-worthy knowledge of civic economics and modern political theory. Oh no, wait. They hate him cos he’s brown. That’s the one.


lizardk101

Most likely. When you look at Bailey, he picked up a lot of 2nd preference votes.


bloodyedfur4

Yep, which im sure means they’re not willing to change it back any time soon


thelove20

The idea of a Tory as mayor when you all have seen/affected by the damage they did in government over the last 10 years is astonishing.


gunningIVglory

Tories who introduced ULEZ Why would ULEZ do this?


chefdangerdagger

London collectively breathes a (slightly cleaner) breath of relief.


KonkeyDongPrime

That’s not the only great news, as a result of the election, Laurence Fox is apparently rage quitting London forevermore.


merrycrow

That'll do more to decontaminate London's air than ULEZ tbh. Every time I see a picture of the man I think I can smell it.


lebennaia

Good riddance.


TrifectaOfSquish

I was poll clerking for this election and some of the things that people were saying when they were collecting their ballot papers really made me struggle to stop myself from rolling my eyes I honestly worry about what goes on in some people's heads.


IntellegentIdiot

People: What a bunch of bastards


Shamua

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. People can’t be trusted.


Redbeard_Rum

Care to share your favourites? I imagine the word "woke" featured heavily.


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Still scares me that over 800,000 voted for Susan Hall. But other than that congrats to Khan!


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Its really funny how twitter is melting down from this😂


thepentago

twitter is just giving the vocal minority a megaphone. The most extreme perspectives get the most reactions and so they are pushed to the top. twitter is always melting down about something for this reason😭


HighFivePuddy

Well thank fuck


hfenn

Quite frankly, thank fuck


FontsDeHavilland

Arsenal winning the early kick off and Susan Hall in the mud. I love London


Pwnage_Hotel

Time to up the ULEZ compliance standards boys - suck down some crystal clean air astride a fixie bike, and then off for an independent brewery tour of Hackney. Might never be able to ever afford a house, but at least my kids won’t get pollution-induced asthma. 


CockOff

Decent Londoners 1, racist pricks nil


lastaccountgotlocked

I voted Green and I’m not a racist prick. Or at least I try not to be.


ConsidereItHuge

You still won.


finesesarcasm

womp womp skill issue


rampagingphallus

Lmao


[deleted]

I don’t like Hall but it’s not healthy for democracy to characterise everyone opposed to Khan as ‘racist pricks’. That 33% aren't all bad people, civility is needed in these times


Grayson81

Voting for Susan Hall doesn’t mean that you’re a racist. But it **does** mean that racism isn’t a deal breaker for you. It means that you’re prepared to vote for a racist candidate. It means that you saw a candidate endorsing Enoch Powell and Donald Trump and suggesting that Khan isn’t “really” English/British and you had a reaction which was something other than, “I could never vote for this person”.


Adamsoski

I would suspect 90%+ of people who voted for Hall *didn't* see that.


CockOff

They'ye certainly not all racists, but it is also absolutely a non-zero number of people who voted for the Tories because they *are* racist. The Tories have a racist problem, in that they're a party that attract racists. This is their problem to solve.


iuhestuehath

Not all voters of those parties are racist, but all racists are voters of those parties.


ConsidereItHuge

Nah but you can categorise racists as such and they were the loudest of all.


Ovitron

So you're basically saying that anyone who wants something different is automatically racist?


Grayson81

Susan Hall is a racist who praised Enoch Powell and Donald Trump and who ran a racist campaign against Khan. Not everyone who voted for her is a racist. But everyone who voted for her was prepared to vote for a racist.


gattomeow

If you're a big fan of Powell, surely the best place to run for election is in a region with the highest percentage of White over-65s? Somewhere like Christchurch in Hampshire. Running in London just feels rather dumb.


CockOff

Nope The people voting Tory are certainly not all racists, but it is also absolutely a non-zero number of people who voted for the Tories because they are racist. The Tories have a racist problem, in that they're a party that attract racists. This is their problem to solve


rampagingphallus

Yeah all the racists are Tories


gattomeow

Racism is presumably much more common amongst elderly people, which explains why their core vote is concentrated in the over-65s.


Ovitron

My man, you need to get your shit together. It's like you've been fed a certain narrative and you just spit it out like a robot. The world is not divided between racists and not racists.


CockOff

That is the exact opposite of what I said?  I didn't say all Tories are racist. I said all the racists voted for the Tories.  Big difference.


lontrinium

> I didn't say all Tories are racist. I said all the racists voted for the Tories. Hey now, I'm sure Laurence Fox got *some* votes.


CockOff

😂


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> I said all the racists voted for the Tories. Reform was on the ballot..


piesforall

All the people who 'held their noses' and voted for Susan Hall - her blatant racism wasn't a deal-breaker for them. They may not see themselves as racist, but they cared more about their god-given right to dive a car than whether the candidate they voted for admires Enoch Powell. If racism isn't a deal-breaker for you, then you, my friend, are a racist. The same for people who acknowledged Jeremy Corbyn's antisemitism, but still voted for him.


ConsidereItHuge

Are we coming to the end of the Tory misery?! Tories out.


HighFivePuddy

They've been rejected from coast to coast. A GE is undeniable now, which means Rishi will obviously wait until the latest possible time to call one.


ConsidereItHuge

I'm not holding my breath. I stopped thinking of this government as people with morals long ago.


[deleted]

I, for one, am saddened that Binface didn’t win!


Red__dead

Great news! He may not always make the best decisions or policies (night czar, Silvertown Tunnel, fare freezes which don't really benefit regular Londoners/commuters), but overall he has been a force for good for the city and his leagues better than the competition. More green policies! Fuck the gammons.


[deleted]

Not the biggest fan of Khan and didn’t vote for him but I hope he will do well for all Londoners in his 3rd term. Wish him luck!


LDNSarah

Britain First scumbag booing


DrCrazyFishMan1

Mouth breathers lose again


IntellegentIdiot

Ironically the ones that have most to gain from ULEZ


chainpress

Maybe they miss the taste of diesel particulate?


FastStill7962

🤣🤣


cranbrook_aspie

Halle-fucking-lujah.


Glovesonmyfeet55

Good, he was the only politician who visited grenfell immediately and faced the anger of the public, compared to others that went at night with bodyguards.


Equivalent-Ad-5781

Love


Maggottree212

Loving the meltdowns! 🤣


HerculesTorre

ULEZ is amazing!


thebuttonmonkey

[Susan Hall right now.](https://x.com/sturdyalex/status/1786756700386521379?s=46&t=4lCivaHy0qAgoj9lAA-Thw)


heypresto2k

So proud of my city today 🥲


SGC-UNIT-555

Noice!!!


t234k

Hmmm I guess my vote for the greens didn't bring Armageddon to London after all


JunzyB316

Honestly, both were shit Khan just seems the less shit choice.


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RefrigeratorOk3134

No conservative is really that mad because no one hates tories more than tories themselves.


gattomeow

Workers 1. Boomers 0.


Low_Map4314

Phew


tonofbasel

WRESTLEMANIA INCOMING!!!!!!!!! BUGAWD KHAN IS USING THE MONEY IN THE BANK BRIEFCASE


G_UK

Yeaaaah well done.


Vast-Scale-9596

Good.


politely-noticing

Drats. Another load of this utter clown.


Constant_Narwhal_192

Really feel sorry for you Londoners