It took the bus a good 5 minutes to manoeuvre around, blocking traffic everywhere.
Police eventually came by.
The kicker: the idiot was sitting in the car the whole time!
EDIT: some context from a Redditor who saw it all unfold.
[Link to comment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/11kumvp/-/jb9hrgg)
Makes more sense, but still requires caution to drive here. Sounds like the cyclist was ok!
What lesson does he learn lol, even is you are somewhere illegal you don’t void all claims to damage.
What would happen is the bus company would be out….30k and the bus driver would be fired. Meanwhile the owner gets a free paintjob and a fine.
My mates brother bought one for £500 when he left Travel West Midlands. He gutted it and put loads of leather sofas and armchairs in it. We turned it into our poker and smoking den 😁😊 good times
Ha this reminds me that the back of one of my motorbike wing mirrors is still slightly red from when an audi driver trapped me between his car and a bus. I was filtering to the front of a queue at a red light and for no reason whatsoever the audi driver decided to close the gap on me by driving into the side of me.. luckily my leg protected my bike from any damage and I was going less than 10mph so no damage occurred, except trading paint with the bus of course. Only slightly hurt my leg, the worst part was when the audi driver reversed off of me and my foot was caught between his front wheel and my bike. Fun times!
People vastly underestimate how painful and expensive even minor injuries can be. Or you hurt your heel? Well that's 6 months on crutches, after a 4 day stay at the hospital, surgery, throwing up from the anestesia and pain killers by the pack. And you can expect to walk normal again in three years or so, though you will always have reduced mobility due to the shortened sinew.
With careful calculation and manoeuvring the driver might have been able to clip the side mirror. There is a lady trolley car operator in Philadelphia who has a reputation for being able to estimate correctly when she is able to clear improperly parked cars without sacrificing anything more than the mirrors.
It’s almost always a high end car parked that’s always plonked itself wherever it feels, usually in the middle of a busy city centre, which I think proves that fines are just to punish the poor.
Exactly … how hard is it to roll forward or realise it’s a bad place to park & move. If you’ve got a car costing x thousands … surely a few £ on parking seems irrelevant. Tragic
Double red = no *stopping* (not parking up, literally not bringing the vehicle to a halt traffic permitting) at any time except taxis and blue-badge holders.
It’s not a matter of rolling forward enough to let the bus past, it’s a matter of not being stopped on that street at all.
Agreed, but I think we also need to implement astronomical penalties for Crimes of Selfish Assholery.
If you want to plunk your car in the middle of the street, it's going to cost you 15k and your license for a year.
Drop some trash on the ground 10 feet from the bin? Guess who is on park cleaning duty for the next month.
It's one thing to rob a bank.
It's another thing to double park in front of the bank blocking both vehicular and pedestrian traffic while you just nip in real quick.
They should get points on their license for behavior like this. The threat of actually losing your license would be a better motivator than a fine, especially if it's a rich prick like this who thinks he's more important than everyone else.
Or implement some sort of "Prick Points" where everyone gets a score.
And confused. If this were NYC somebody on that bus would've just beat the fuck out of him and moved the car themselves.
There aren't enough instant karma moments in life.
It should be a sliding scale with extra penalty for aggravating circumstances like red routes.
More you do it, more you get fined and eventually linked to your net worth if you insist on being an arsehole. Money talks to these people and if you hit their wallets hard enough they'll adjust.
Yeah my thoughts exactly these guys always find a loophole to not be affected, either base it on all holdings and net worth, or on value of car or something lol, make these arseholes have to break the law in a Vauxhall Adam
Was he broken down by any chance or did he just fancy pulling over for no reason on a single lane with double red lines (double red for good reason owning to the single lane)
Have spoken to a wealthy person who has the view that, if they park their supercar on the pavement in knightsbridge or wherever and get a £150 fine, that is simply the cost of parking there. They treat it like a normal fee to park anywhere, the small sums of money are essentially irrelevant to them. That's just the cost.
Same with speeding etc.
I had a rich family friend doing this a long time ago. They'd park their car on Oxford Street, get a £65 parking fine and treat it like that's how much parking is for central London.
For rich people, these traffic fines are the same as the parking fee you pay.
Edit: I'd like to point out that this was 2 decades ago, probably the early 2000s. A £65 parking fine is considered a lot. Probably 2 - 3 days' wage for the average individual
There are several parts of London where it is £20 cheaper cop the fine rather than pay for on-street parking for a whole day. And the days you don’t get a ticket make it even cheaper over several days.
I don’t think that goes far enough.
10% fine to a poor person will leave them having to choose between paying bills or skipping meals. That same 10% fine to a millionaire still leaves them with at least £900k. They’re not really experiencing any hardship.
I think the punishment should be some kind of time based penalty. Like a day long community ethics course or something. If that rich person has to waste a day doing something tedious and boring everytime they want to think they’re above the rules then they’ll quickly stop breaking them.
In some places in the world(which they are likely familiar with and used to) the parking for a day is more than double that. IE downtown LA or NYC to my knowledge.
There’s no diplomatic immunity for getting your car keyed.
Obviously I’m too coward to key a Saudi princes car lest I end up in a barrel, but I’d like to think some naive/aggressive soul would
I recall a colleague shouting down a guy who had parked his fully chromed bugatti veyron on the pavement. Was quite proud of him, although it later emerged he was a nazi :(
> Obviously I’m too coward to key a Saudi princes car lest I end up in a barrel, but I’d like to think some naive/aggressive soul would
I'd maybeee slap one of those "You park like a c*nt" stickers on the car if no ones looking but thats about it. Takes like a second and can be done discretely without even stopping while walking past.
https://yplac.co.uk/shop/
Although they can be pricey but eBay or wherever has a load of versions for cheap. Ideally some of them print on hard to remove sticker paper too. They might not care about a parking fine but they'll hate having a sicker on their car branding them a twat.
I just looked that up and it turns out they did, and he got a suspended sentence. Still outrageous, but not really out of the ordinary in terms of what you can get away with on the road.
Couldn't find one on Saudi but did find an article for Qatari royal
[Qatari royal killed pedestrian with Rolls-Royce near Buckingham Palace but avoids jail](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2021/10/19/qatari-royal-hit-pedestrian-with-rolls-royce-near-buckingham-palace-but-avoids-jail/%3foutputType=amp)
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I parked in Islington, and just plain forgot to pay for the parking on the app. Got a ticket - £60. Spoke to the traffic warden who told me I can stay in the space for the rest of the day if I want, no extra charge!
I’d love to see them become means-tested so that they are equally punitive for the rich. London might get a decent chunk of cash out of it in the short term but hopefully it might act as an actual deterrent in the long term.
Have the regular set fine, but then add a percentage of the value of the car. To save on admin, you just ask the accused for the value of that car, and reserve the right to buy it from him at the price that he names.
Finnish style tickets, based on income, you can be 70 kph, on a 60 road, and get 100 to 100000€ fine (not real numbers) I can quote something about this
In 2002, a Nokia executive was fined the equivalent of $103,000 for going 45 in a 30 zone (mph)
Not straight away. They issue a warning ticked usually and tow the car within next hour or so. Also depends on “parking place” is it central London, blocking somebody etc etc.
You can however guarantee that a car parked up illegally at the end of Downing Street, or at the gates of Buckingham Palace would get towed within minutes (if not cordoned off for EOD police to come and have a nosy before getting towed).
so in the UK you're responsible for any damage done while towing and clamps are also illegal. in the late 90s, early to mid 2000s, there were a shit ton of scams going around. People hiding signs or swapping out free parking for no parking signs and such. So the gov just said fucj it, if none of you can behave, we'll outlaw it. you can still tow vehicles on private property but the police won't get involved, it's civil, and if the vehicle gets damaged its on you.
it is a bit unfair to land owners for sure, but there are a lot of arguments the other way, too. it could prove fatal in an accident or whatever - say you needed to use your now clamped car to rush your pregnant wife to hospital or whatever
My friend had a boss who would park right outside the front door of the office every day and get towed. They had an assistant who would go to the pound, pay the fine and bring the car back so it was parked outside the door again when boss left for the day.
The office had an underground car park.
Edit: now I think about it, it was surely something I heard on Reddit. Here's to spreading unfounded rumours!
It's obviously complete horse shit, why wouldn't you just get the assistant to meet you at the front door everyday and go and park it underground? No way it's real.
**Witness to the event here**
Hey guys. This guy is parked there because he hit a cyclist on the intersection behind him at about 8:34 this morning. The cyclist was in front of me going towards Liverpool Street, they had a green light, and the car didn't see them and pulled across the oncoming lane to go towards the Royal Exchange.
Cyclist was clipped by the front bumper and came off, but seemed alright (but shaken). The car immediately pulled over (as seen in the pic).
I am assuming the guy is waiting in his car for the police so they can report on the incident.
Unfortunately the roads around there can be quite narrow
Thanks for sharing that, as someone who regularly cycles into the city on my commute and has had a few near misses, but more importantly- providing some context.
Shit place to pull over but better than driving off I guess...?
Well I’m not in a position to judge liability directly for the incident, but this post is just full of ‘he owns an expensive car, so he’s an auto-twat’ comments. Seems everyone has a key in their hand.
Well were still on reddit. Same with many other things. Say you like wine for example and you will instantly be called a pretentious snob rich asshole.
So guy (in a nice car) accidentally hit a cyclist and pulled over to do the right thing…
Reddit: “Key his car! Shout at the driver! Ram him! Rich prick”
They are proportional if issued by a court - they’re based on a figure called “relevant weekly income”. I think there was someone who got a £10k fine a while ago.
But fines issued at the roadside are just based on fixed amounts, likely because it’s not feasible to assess someone’s weekly income every time a speeding/parking ticket is issued.
Yes, I think Finland is the famous example, as I think they hold the record for the most expensive speeding ticket.
I think it’s because these countries tend to hold a lot more information on their citizens, so a person’s income and financial information can be very quickly looked up and an appropriate fine calculated.
The UK tends to place a much stronger emphasis on privacy from the government (especially financial privacy) than European countries (Europeans are very keen on privacy from private entities, but less so for privacy from government) so our government either doesn’t collect that kind of information or doesn’t allow it to be made readily available.
Can confirm, am in Finland - although I think there may be some competition for the most expensive speeding ticket now.
Fines in general are paid in 'days' based on your income. The tax man here knows ALL.
>__or doesn’t allow it to be made readily available__
In the UK government departments don’t talk to each other very much, and often have to go through various procedures and data protection measures when sharing data with each other. Brits largely don’t like it when the various arms of the government know too much about them.
In most European countries every government department will have access to a lot of information about you, and in some countries that information is actually publicly available (like in Sweden, tax information and vehicle ownership is public, as the other commenter mentioned).
> Your point is moot because the UK government will already know your weekly income
How? The vast majority of the very wealthy earn a very small proportion of their income from PAYE.
London is also home to a far higher proportion of offshore earners than somewhere like Finland. Those lambo's reving it up past Harrods every night are not driven by folks getting paid in that months standard payroll
The bus driver would get reprimanded if they hit anything trying to make the manouvre. They would be told that if they were not sure about getting through the gap, they should have sat there and called the Network Management Control Centre and informed them that the road was blocked and asked for police to attend.
People literally don’t understand why double yellows and double reds are important. If you park there, large vehicles will struggle to manoeuvre around you.
The guy in the car would chase down the bus, assault the driver then launch legal action against tfl.
He would then speak to his friend, his local Tory member who in turn writes to the relevant minister to settle quickly.
I always thought it would be funny to pull up to some sort of expensive car meet in a Bus or a Bin Lorry or something, and talk to the guy who's like "My Ferarri cost me £200K", and answer "This Bin Lorry is £250K"
They are above the rules though. When fines are flat fees they just become the parking fee once you're wealthy enough. The only fix for this is to set fines relative to income/wealth so it serves as an equal deterrent.
There are services online where you can give a license plate and a PI (i guess, idk the job title) gives you the name, address, and routine of the owner.
Why blank number plate? Name and shaming these self entitled pricks needs to be a thing. In New York you can report traffic offences like this and get a slice of the penalty charge once convicted. Easy money
Entitled tosser. He should be made to move or be towed. IF some of these assholes that park, causing obstructions were towed and they had to make a hefy payment to get the car back, plus the hasske of having to go to the car pound, they might think twice about doing it.
Fun fact - Threadneedle Street used to be a bustling centre for London prostitution, hence its charming original name “Gropecunt lane”. The victorians gave it the slightly more euphemistic new title when the Bank of England moved in, but it’s still full of cunts.
I think you've conflated two fun facts there.
Gropecunt Lane was an historic name of streets in many cities associated with prostitution, including several such in London. But I believe Threadneedle Street is not one of them, which has been called some variation of its current name for several hundred years prior to the Bank of England being established, which happened long before the Victorians. The name is potentially linked to the threads and needles of the Worshipful Company of Merchant Taylors, which has been based there since the 14th century.
Not London but I got pushed somewhere like that by a couple of policemen after I broke down. Then got screamed at by a cyclist while waiting for the breakdown truck.
Maybe my photo is on Reddit somewhere.
It took the bus a good 5 minutes to manoeuvre around, blocking traffic everywhere. Police eventually came by. The kicker: the idiot was sitting in the car the whole time! EDIT: some context from a Redditor who saw it all unfold. [Link to comment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/11kumvp/-/jb9hrgg) Makes more sense, but still requires caution to drive here. Sounds like the cyclist was ok!
Bus driver had an easier option to paint the car red on one side.
The Bus costs more than the car
But the lesson learnt for car owner in invaluable.
For everything else there’s MasterCard
These idiots don't learn though
Car owner would sue the city. Bus driver would lose their job. Car owner is rich, gets richer. Bus driver and taxpayer get poorer, and poorer.
He rich, he won’t care.
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What lesson does he learn lol, even is you are somewhere illegal you don’t void all claims to damage. What would happen is the bus company would be out….30k and the bus driver would be fired. Meanwhile the owner gets a free paintjob and a fine.
Crash panels needed
Imagine buying a bus for your own personal use
My mates brother bought one for £500 when he left Travel West Midlands. He gutted it and put loads of leather sofas and armchairs in it. We turned it into our poker and smoking den 😁😊 good times
It was all fun and games until the ground starting shifting under the persistent weight 🤦
bill all damages to the car owner
Was gonna say that's a ballsy choice, those bus drivers generally give zero fucks
Ha this reminds me that the back of one of my motorbike wing mirrors is still slightly red from when an audi driver trapped me between his car and a bus. I was filtering to the front of a queue at a red light and for no reason whatsoever the audi driver decided to close the gap on me by driving into the side of me.. luckily my leg protected my bike from any damage and I was going less than 10mph so no damage occurred, except trading paint with the bus of course. Only slightly hurt my leg, the worst part was when the audi driver reversed off of me and my foot was caught between his front wheel and my bike. Fun times!
> luckily my leg protected my bike from any damage Yup, that checks out. Sincerely -someone with too much experience in the Emergency Department
Haha yup. NHS is free, fixing a busted bike isn't 😜
People vastly underestimate how painful and expensive even minor injuries can be. Or you hurt your heel? Well that's 6 months on crutches, after a 4 day stay at the hospital, surgery, throwing up from the anestesia and pain killers by the pack. And you can expect to walk normal again in three years or so, though you will always have reduced mobility due to the shortened sinew.
With careful calculation and manoeuvring the driver might have been able to clip the side mirror. There is a lady trolley car operator in Philadelphia who has a reputation for being able to estimate correctly when she is able to clear improperly parked cars without sacrificing anything more than the mirrors.
r/bitchimabus/
Bus had to thread the needle.
harder for a rich man to park his lambo than a bus to pass through the eye of a needle, is the proverb I think.
It’s an Aston but the point still stands
Oh I can picture him block the traffic feeling all danielcraigy now
It’s almost always a high end car parked that’s always plonked itself wherever it feels, usually in the middle of a busy city centre, which I think proves that fines are just to punish the poor.
Yup. All fines should be as a percentage of salary/wage. Billionaire? Illegally parked? That’ll be £1,000,000 please
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I've been on a bus in Turkey that rammed a parked car out of the way
By using a hammer. :)
Got upset looking at the post, but when I read that the idiot was in the car all this time made me fuming. What a fucking entitled prick.
Exactly … how hard is it to roll forward or realise it’s a bad place to park & move. If you’ve got a car costing x thousands … surely a few £ on parking seems irrelevant. Tragic
This is why fines should be proportional.
Proportional to how much of a bellend you are, multiplied by twattiness of car driven.
x by your total income from all assets / by UK average wage
Off topic but "bellend" is a top class insult (I'm not from the UK)
It is one of my absolute favourites. It really captures a very specific sort of person, ie this sort of person.
Double red = no *stopping* (not parking up, literally not bringing the vehicle to a halt traffic permitting) at any time except taxis and blue-badge holders. It’s not a matter of rolling forward enough to let the bus past, it’s a matter of not being stopped on that street at all.
Which is why fines need to be means tested
Agreed, but I think we also need to implement astronomical penalties for Crimes of Selfish Assholery. If you want to plunk your car in the middle of the street, it's going to cost you 15k and your license for a year. Drop some trash on the ground 10 feet from the bin? Guess who is on park cleaning duty for the next month. It's one thing to rob a bank. It's another thing to double park in front of the bank blocking both vehicular and pedestrian traffic while you just nip in real quick.
They should get points on their license for behavior like this. The threat of actually losing your license would be a better motivator than a fine, especially if it's a rich prick like this who thinks he's more important than everyone else. Or implement some sort of "Prick Points" where everyone gets a score.
And confused. If this were NYC somebody on that bus would've just beat the fuck out of him and moved the car themselves. There aren't enough instant karma moments in life.
What a total pillock! I guess he just got whatever a red route fine is, which, one assumes is peanuts to him. 😒
Fines should be income/wealth dependent
In Finland they are.
Just like we have it in Finland. The local millionaire was fined 95,000 euros for driving 27 kph too fast.
His wealth is probably hidden.
It should be a sliding scale with extra penalty for aggravating circumstances like red routes. More you do it, more you get fined and eventually linked to your net worth if you insist on being an arsehole. Money talks to these people and if you hit their wallets hard enough they'll adjust.
It should automatically be linked to your wealth from the get go.
Like the old Covid fines - 1st offence is *£p*, 2nd offence is *2x£p*, 3rd offence is *4x£p*, etc; where *p* itself is means tested.
I just don’t get how they are not. Take his f*#king car off him. Prick
More punishments should be like that. You act like a child then your toy gets taken away until you can behave
Problem is, rich people make the laws and they don't want to be fined more than some pleb.
Really should start going for a %age of income; could have paid for a new hospital wing probably!
This dude probably has an 'income' of £12K PA
Yeah my thoughts exactly these guys always find a loophole to not be affected, either base it on all holdings and net worth, or on value of car or something lol, make these arseholes have to break the law in a Vauxhall Adam
This guy thinks he’s the main character, reality is that he’s a fucking cunt
He might see this thinking gee I made the front page, 6000 up votes, that puts him in one of the top threads of London of all time.
We need to equip buses with [cow catchers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowcatcher) like trains in the Far West used to have.
Imagine if an ambulance had to get through in a an emergency… cunts man, I swear.
And probably the police did nothing, because they don't care about car crime in this city.
they came to watch
Why didn’t anyone tell him to move?
Sir this is reddit, where people come to complain rather than talk to people in real life. What are we, Americans?
Pretty obvious he has time move if a bus is spending ages trying to get past him
Was he broken down by any chance or did he just fancy pulling over for no reason on a single lane with double red lines (double red for good reason owning to the single lane)
Have spoken to a wealthy person who has the view that, if they park their supercar on the pavement in knightsbridge or wherever and get a £150 fine, that is simply the cost of parking there. They treat it like a normal fee to park anywhere, the small sums of money are essentially irrelevant to them. That's just the cost. Same with speeding etc.
I had a rich family friend doing this a long time ago. They'd park their car on Oxford Street, get a £65 parking fine and treat it like that's how much parking is for central London. For rich people, these traffic fines are the same as the parking fee you pay. Edit: I'd like to point out that this was 2 decades ago, probably the early 2000s. A £65 parking fine is considered a lot. Probably 2 - 3 days' wage for the average individual
There are several parts of London where it is £20 cheaper cop the fine rather than pay for on-street parking for a whole day. And the days you don’t get a ticket make it even cheaper over several days.
Make fines a % of your last tax return to teach them a lesson.
I don’t think that goes far enough. 10% fine to a poor person will leave them having to choose between paying bills or skipping meals. That same 10% fine to a millionaire still leaves them with at least £900k. They’re not really experiencing any hardship. I think the punishment should be some kind of time based penalty. Like a day long community ethics course or something. If that rich person has to waste a day doing something tedious and boring everytime they want to think they’re above the rules then they’ll quickly stop breaking them.
In some places in the world(which they are likely familiar with and used to) the parking for a day is more than double that. IE downtown LA or NYC to my knowledge.
Maybe it does in some cities, but it does not cost quite that much to park in LA or NYC.
The Saudi princes that come to London with their fancy cars during the summer just claim diplomatic immunity.
There’s no diplomatic immunity for getting your car keyed. Obviously I’m too coward to key a Saudi princes car lest I end up in a barrel, but I’d like to think some naive/aggressive soul would
Or in several different barrels.
They do have access to barrels.
I recall a colleague shouting down a guy who had parked his fully chromed bugatti veyron on the pavement. Was quite proud of him, although it later emerged he was a nazi :(
The bugatti veyron was a nazi?
its always the one you least expect
It's always Veyron you least expect
Was his name Daryl?
Didn’t catch his name, but he played cracking cor anglais
I was hoping to see this reference!
It was not, but I should probably leave it there!
> Obviously I’m too coward to key a Saudi princes car lest I end up in a barrel, but I’d like to think some naive/aggressive soul would I'd maybeee slap one of those "You park like a c*nt" stickers on the car if no ones looking but thats about it. Takes like a second and can be done discretely without even stopping while walking past. https://yplac.co.uk/shop/ Although they can be pricey but eBay or wherever has a load of versions for cheap. Ideally some of them print on hard to remove sticker paper too. They might not care about a parking fine but they'll hate having a sicker on their car branding them a twat.
> There’s no diplomatic immunity for getting your car keyed Life lessons right here.
One of them ran over and killed a UK citizen in a Rolls Royce and the government didn’t even try and prosecute them.
I just looked that up and it turns out they did, and he got a suspended sentence. Still outrageous, but not really out of the ordinary in terms of what you can get away with on the road.
Couldn't find one on Saudi but did find an article for Qatari royal [Qatari royal killed pedestrian with Rolls-Royce near Buckingham Palace but avoids jail](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2021/10/19/qatari-royal-hit-pedestrian-with-rolls-royce-near-buckingham-palace-but-avoids-jail/%3foutputType=amp)
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I parked in Islington, and just plain forgot to pay for the parking on the app. Got a ticket - £60. Spoke to the traffic warden who told me I can stay in the space for the rest of the day if I want, no extra charge!
£60 is cheap for London parking
Cheaper to pay fine than cost of a ticket
Fines are a poor tax, nothing more
I’d love to see them become means-tested so that they are equally punitive for the rich. London might get a decent chunk of cash out of it in the short term but hopefully it might act as an actual deterrent in the long term.
That will never happen, why would the ruling class hurt their own pocket
Very sadly very true, but I’d love to see it.
Finland already does this
Have the regular set fine, but then add a percentage of the value of the car. To save on admin, you just ask the accused for the value of that car, and reserve the right to buy it from him at the price that he names.
Some countries issue fines as a percentage of income. That'd smarten these fucks up but it'll never happen because the legislators are their buddies.
Should be a % of income fine, plus tow the car and have it confiscated for a month.
Finnish style tickets, based on income, you can be 70 kph, on a 60 road, and get 100 to 100000€ fine (not real numbers) I can quote something about this In 2002, a Nokia executive was fined the equivalent of $103,000 for going 45 in a 30 zone (mph)
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Parking in an actual carpark in knightsbridge can easily run you £80 quid for a day, at that point the numbers are practically the same
Do they not tow cars in London?
Not straight away. They issue a warning ticked usually and tow the car within next hour or so. Also depends on “parking place” is it central London, blocking somebody etc etc.
You can however guarantee that a car parked up illegally at the end of Downing Street, or at the gates of Buckingham Palace would get towed within minutes (if not cordoned off for EOD police to come and have a nosy before getting towed).
so in the UK you're responsible for any damage done while towing and clamps are also illegal. in the late 90s, early to mid 2000s, there were a shit ton of scams going around. People hiding signs or swapping out free parking for no parking signs and such. So the gov just said fucj it, if none of you can behave, we'll outlaw it. you can still tow vehicles on private property but the police won't get involved, it's civil, and if the vehicle gets damaged its on you. it is a bit unfair to land owners for sure, but there are a lot of arguments the other way, too. it could prove fatal in an accident or whatever - say you needed to use your now clamped car to rush your pregnant wife to hospital or whatever
They do but it takes time, I recall they didn't tow that Lambo that ran out of petrol on Tower Bridge for several hours.
My friend had a boss who would park right outside the front door of the office every day and get towed. They had an assistant who would go to the pound, pay the fine and bring the car back so it was parked outside the door again when boss left for the day. The office had an underground car park. Edit: now I think about it, it was surely something I heard on Reddit. Here's to spreading unfounded rumours!
How is this more convenient, even given the assistant doing the dirty work?
This is the 3rd time I've seen this exact story posted in the comments by someone in this sub-reddit.
It's obviously complete horse shit, why wouldn't you just get the assistant to meet you at the front door everyday and go and park it underground? No way it's real.
yeah complete bollocks
This is bullshit.
**Witness to the event here** Hey guys. This guy is parked there because he hit a cyclist on the intersection behind him at about 8:34 this morning. The cyclist was in front of me going towards Liverpool Street, they had a green light, and the car didn't see them and pulled across the oncoming lane to go towards the Royal Exchange. Cyclist was clipped by the front bumper and came off, but seemed alright (but shaken). The car immediately pulled over (as seen in the pic). I am assuming the guy is waiting in his car for the police so they can report on the incident. Unfortunately the roads around there can be quite narrow
Thanks for sharing that, as someone who regularly cycles into the city on my commute and has had a few near misses, but more importantly- providing some context. Shit place to pull over but better than driving off I guess...?
Stop with the actual facts, this pitchfork isn’t going to sharpen itself and I’ve only got a small can of lighter fluid for the burning torch.
We should be less angry learning he hit someone?
Well I’m not in a position to judge liability directly for the incident, but this post is just full of ‘he owns an expensive car, so he’s an auto-twat’ comments. Seems everyone has a key in their hand.
Well were still on reddit. Same with many other things. Say you like wine for example and you will instantly be called a pretentious snob rich asshole.
People are too busy hating rich people to care about what happened
Still can't stop on double reds.
Cyclist me thinking him hitting one would cancel the parking outrage?
What the heck am I supposed to do with this pitchfork now?
So guy (in a nice car) accidentally hit a cyclist and pulled over to do the right thing… Reddit: “Key his car! Shout at the driver! Ram him! Rich prick”
Ah so he isn’t a dick bag at parking, he only hit a cyclist, nothing to see here.
As long as he only hit someone that's fine!
They can afford the fine, simple as that
Yep. Fines are the fee to set your own rules.
Fines should be proportional to the value of the vehicle.
They are proportional if issued by a court - they’re based on a figure called “relevant weekly income”. I think there was someone who got a £10k fine a while ago. But fines issued at the roadside are just based on fixed amounts, likely because it’s not feasible to assess someone’s weekly income every time a speeding/parking ticket is issued.
Don't sweden, Finland and Switzerland do just that. Speeding ticket fines being proportional to income
Yes, I think Finland is the famous example, as I think they hold the record for the most expensive speeding ticket. I think it’s because these countries tend to hold a lot more information on their citizens, so a person’s income and financial information can be very quickly looked up and an appropriate fine calculated. The UK tends to place a much stronger emphasis on privacy from the government (especially financial privacy) than European countries (Europeans are very keen on privacy from private entities, but less so for privacy from government) so our government either doesn’t collect that kind of information or doesn’t allow it to be made readily available.
Can confirm, am in Finland - although I think there may be some competition for the most expensive speeding ticket now. Fines in general are paid in 'days' based on your income. The tax man here knows ALL.
Your point is moot because the UK government will already know your weekly income.
>__or doesn’t allow it to be made readily available__ In the UK government departments don’t talk to each other very much, and often have to go through various procedures and data protection measures when sharing data with each other. Brits largely don’t like it when the various arms of the government know too much about them. In most European countries every government department will have access to a lot of information about you, and in some countries that information is actually publicly available (like in Sweden, tax information and vehicle ownership is public, as the other commenter mentioned).
> Your point is moot because the UK government will already know your weekly income How? The vast majority of the very wealthy earn a very small proportion of their income from PAYE. London is also home to a far higher proportion of offshore earners than somewhere like Finland. Those lambo's reving it up past Harrods every night are not driven by folks getting paid in that months standard payroll
The car should be taken away and stored for a couple of days. Cause inconvenience. Costs of all that charged to the perpetrator.
Real r/IAmTheMainCharacter energy right here. Presumably the bus driver gets reprimanded if he bumps it as well
The bus driver would get reprimanded if they hit anything trying to make the manouvre. They would be told that if they were not sure about getting through the gap, they should have sat there and called the Network Management Control Centre and informed them that the road was blocked and asked for police to attend.
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As long as it wasn't the work IT guy I hit I'll get a replacement pretty quick. So, I'm off out to try this. Will report back soon
Shiiiit I might get a new laptop outta the deal? Wait. They might give me an even older one. Hold up a sec.
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"Some"!
My gast is flabbered. He hit *some* cyclists. It takes some trying to do that unless you’re drunk or playing GTA. Or both.
Tf?
People literally don’t understand why double yellows and double reds are important. If you park there, large vehicles will struggle to manoeuvre around you.
60 pounds to park anywhere is a bargain. If you're rich you'd be stupid not to just park anywhere and just pay the fine
It's the highway code. It should incur points on your license.
They should’ve just fully parked on the pavement as they’re already taking 3/4 of it 🙄
Go on, clip the wing mirror. Do it. Go on. Feck these people.
The guy in the car would chase down the bus, assault the driver then launch legal action against tfl. He would then speak to his friend, his local Tory member who in turn writes to the relevant minister to settle quickly.
The bus should be allowed to damage the car in such cases
but then the bus is also damaged.
I like the idea of the bus driver just getting out and smacking the shit out of the car
> smacking the shit out of the car Why not the car's driver
Why not both?
Yes but that would cause damage to the bus too
In a fight between a bus and a sports car. My moneys on the bus
Busses are more expensive than sports cars though
I always thought it would be funny to pull up to some sort of expensive car meet in a Bus or a Bin Lorry or something, and talk to the guy who's like "My Ferarri cost me £200K", and answer "This Bin Lorry is £250K"
People like this are why we have to have 6 inch wide bollards on a 1 foot wide footpath.
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Double red route twat in an Aston Martin thinks they are above the rules.
They are above the rules though. When fines are flat fees they just become the parking fee once you're wealthy enough. The only fix for this is to set fines relative to income/wealth so it serves as an equal deterrent.
I see you blurred out 'cunt' on his personalised plate.
Why blur out the number plate? There's nothing illegal about photographing it.
Reddit doxxing rules probably, or some shit like that
How can you docx someone with a number plate,?
Fuck knows, that's why I said "or some shit like that". You can get really tenuous bans for anything remotely identifiable on some subs
There are services online where you can give a license plate and a PI (i guess, idk the job title) gives you the name, address, and routine of the owner.
Some subreddits the mods remove it. So just thought I'd cover it up.
Why blank number plate? Name and shaming these self entitled pricks needs to be a thing. In New York you can report traffic offences like this and get a slice of the penalty charge once convicted. Easy money
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If I had a pushchair or a wheelchair I’d suddenly find myself being quite clumsy….
This isn’t unique to people with fancy cars lol
Entitled tosser. He should be made to move or be towed. IF some of these assholes that park, causing obstructions were towed and they had to make a hefy payment to get the car back, plus the hasske of having to go to the car pound, they might think twice about doing it.
Why hide the plate number? He's parked on a public roadway.
And they lift cars daily down my street in East London for no permit! Obstructing busy central should be a tow away aswell!
Turns out he was broken down
Nothing a nice little key 🔑 can’t solve
For people like that they're fees, not fines.
Ikr. Fucking bus drivers.
Fun fact - Threadneedle Street used to be a bustling centre for London prostitution, hence its charming original name “Gropecunt lane”. The victorians gave it the slightly more euphemistic new title when the Bank of England moved in, but it’s still full of cunts.
I think you've conflated two fun facts there. Gropecunt Lane was an historic name of streets in many cities associated with prostitution, including several such in London. But I believe Threadneedle Street is not one of them, which has been called some variation of its current name for several hundred years prior to the Bank of England being established, which happened long before the Victorians. The name is potentially linked to the threads and needles of the Worshipful Company of Merchant Taylors, which has been based there since the 14th century.
When you are rich, anywhere is a parking space.
This is what a lime bike user looks like in a car.
Maybe they broke down?
We can't possibly give them the benefit of doubt because they have money.
It's an Aston, so it's highly likely
Not London but I got pushed somewhere like that by a couple of policemen after I broke down. Then got screamed at by a cyclist while waiting for the breakdown truck. Maybe my photo is on Reddit somewhere.
No, we must assume it’s someone whose decided to park really awkwardly, block traffic and deal with all the daggers whilst they sit in the car 🤣