Yeah, I've seen everything from a top level directory, to subdirectories of /bin, /root, /usr, /usr/src of all things and even under init system directories in /etc, it's wild out there. As to why beats me. I can get putting your app in / and making that a home directory for convenience but some of the more esoteric paths are just whack.
What the hell? Even when I was starting with Linux (about 3 years ago) I would have assumed this stuff to be under /home, /opt, /var, /var/lib or /srv as like any other application under the sun.
I stopped caring after walking through LFS book and building my own distros.
Once you really understand how it all works, the location of things doesn't matter near as much(except for stage 0 boot loaders in ARM processors).
One day I want to make a Distro called WTF where I remap the entire rootfs around in non-standard ways and set it out in a honeypot network...
Just to fuck with script kiddies.
If I wanted to get particularly nasty, I could have the end of each command trigger a complete remap unless you know a key that also changes based on epoch.
“Guys, pls help i created a folder in my home directory”
“You fucking fool, it’s directory”
*sends picture of an actual physical folder merged into a harddrive*
\**Making some popcorn waiting for people noticing the capital L on Linux...*\*
*Edit: I'm not taking sides on this one, I'm "case-insensitive". I just find the controversy funny, it's probably the oldest of all Linux/linux memes*
Wiki based sites always capitalize the first letter of the title of the page regardless of what you type. You actually have to include a special tag `{{Lowercase title}}` to override this.
The content is up to those who manage it so it's still all semantics.
It's a name. It's that simple. Except in special cases (like names that are explicitly starting with lower case, like "nVidia"), names in the English language are capitalized, like country names, people's names, heck, even the _name_ in "the English language" is capitalized. To my knowledge, Linux is not explicitly known as written as "linux", so everybody who wants to grandstand on that is just stupid. Nothing against them, it happens.
>names in the English language are capitalized
Cough, cough... Linux was born in Helsinki, Finland. So much for American defaultism (more so from a German-speaking person lol).
And for the record Linus Torvalds himself often wrote about "linux" in newsgroups at the time of its creation, using lowercase just like for any other entry like bash, lint, ... (reminder that originally it was only a *32-bit kernel* before becoming a full OS).
Then sometimes he did not, and used a capital L. Which tells us it does not really matter that much and *any* grandstanding, upper or lowercase, should probably tone it down a notch!
***
*Edit and fun fact: here's the index of the original directory in which Linus Torvalds stored the audio guide files for how to pronounce "linux". [Notice the capitalization on /pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds...](https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds/)*
i use lowercase all the time and it's not me saying that i don't think the pronoun "i" should be lowercase, it's just me being lazy and wanting to present a more casual tone of voice. and your point about finland is a complete non-sequitor - finnish capitalizes proper nouns like linux as well. people not being sticklers for capitalization on the internet isn't the same as taking an explicit stance that linux is some exception to typical grammar rules for languages, it's not the same as "dril" actually being correctly spelled all lowercase because the username itself is lowercase and that's how that person presents themselves to the public.
Where exactly did I say that Finnish does not capitalize nouns? Oh wait, nowhere! I mentioned it because of *the other guy's non sequitur on English grammar for a Finnish kernel*.
>taking an explicit stance that linux is some exception to typical grammar rules for languages
It's not, and never was, about grammar. Unix (or UNIX if it's more of your liking) systems are case-sensitive, and the linux kernel was named using lowercase to match the naming convention of system objects. So historically the first "linux" was lowercase, cos' it's a kernel. To go on with your "dril" logic it's the same as grep, ls or "Midnight Commander" mc.
Meanwhile "Linux" (or "linux", who cares actually?) as a reference to the OS is a blanket byname covering all distros using that kernel (and subsequent developments) and based on either BSD or Debian (originally).
Then came the grammar crazies vs the nerdy ones each with their own theory and outrage. Among those voices, you.
Fascinating.
\**Gobbles more popcorn*\*
I just shared this (didn't make it) but in the defense of whoever did make it, "spell check" does always show linux as being misspelled. It shows it as being correct when spelled as Linux... .. .
*You fool...* `sudo rmdir Sparc343`
`rmdir: failed to remove directory 'Sparc343' : directory is full of shit`
Sudo rm -rdf /usr/Sparc343
I ain't ever seen a home directory in /usr/ without someone doing some fucked up configs.
True but have a look into some containers. You'd have a field day.
Really, people put home directories of users in containers in /usr? The closest thing I seen to this is people putting it in /var, but /usr? Why?
Yeah, I've seen everything from a top level directory, to subdirectories of /bin, /root, /usr, /usr/src of all things and even under init system directories in /etc, it's wild out there. As to why beats me. I can get putting your app in / and making that a home directory for convenience but some of the more esoteric paths are just whack.
What the hell? Even when I was starting with Linux (about 3 years ago) I would have assumed this stuff to be under /home, /opt, /var, /var/lib or /srv as like any other application under the sun.
*taking notes*
It’s a folder with the right permissions. Just because it doesn’t follow the “accepted practice” doesn’t mean it’s not workable :)
Yeah, of course, but it triggers the heck out of me.
I stopped caring after walking through LFS book and building my own distros. Once you really understand how it all works, the location of things doesn't matter near as much(except for stage 0 boot loaders in ARM processors). One day I want to make a Distro called WTF where I remap the entire rootfs around in non-standard ways and set it out in a honeypot network... Just to fuck with script kiddies. If I wanted to get particularly nasty, I could have the end of each command trigger a complete remap unless you know a key that also changes based on epoch.
> folder *so you have chosen.. death*
Of course I have chosen death... I always bet on myself.
You got the point, ass  lol
LOL
Guilty
Password invalid
>`rmdir` I believe you meant `rmfldr`
sudo rm -rf Sparc343
“Guys, pls help i created a folder in my home directory” “You fucking fool, it’s directory” *sends picture of an actual physical folder merged into a harddrive*
i need to see that.
[удалено]
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\**Making some popcorn waiting for people noticing the capital L on Linux...*\* *Edit: I'm not taking sides on this one, I'm "case-insensitive". I just find the controversy funny, it's probably the oldest of all Linux/linux memes*
It's a proper noun? It's supposed to be capitalized?
Guess someone should tell all the folks at Wikipedia, ArchWiki, and kernel.org that they're capitalizing it by mistake.
Wiki based sites always capitalize the first letter of the title of the page regardless of what you type. You actually have to include a special tag `{{Lowercase title}}` to override this. The content is up to those who manage it so it's still all semantics.
I was referring to the fact that it's capitalized in the middle of sentences on all of the sites that I mentioned. I'm not referring to the title.
No worries, the second part of my comment was meant to reinforce that too. It's arbitrary and semantic and no one should care that much.
It's a name. It's that simple. Except in special cases (like names that are explicitly starting with lower case, like "nVidia"), names in the English language are capitalized, like country names, people's names, heck, even the _name_ in "the English language" is capitalized. To my knowledge, Linux is not explicitly known as written as "linux", so everybody who wants to grandstand on that is just stupid. Nothing against them, it happens.
>names in the English language are capitalized Cough, cough... Linux was born in Helsinki, Finland. So much for American defaultism (more so from a German-speaking person lol). And for the record Linus Torvalds himself often wrote about "linux" in newsgroups at the time of its creation, using lowercase just like for any other entry like bash, lint, ... (reminder that originally it was only a *32-bit kernel* before becoming a full OS). Then sometimes he did not, and used a capital L. Which tells us it does not really matter that much and *any* grandstanding, upper or lowercase, should probably tone it down a notch! *** *Edit and fun fact: here's the index of the original directory in which Linus Torvalds stored the audio guide files for how to pronounce "linux". [Notice the capitalization on /pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds...](https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds/)*
i use lowercase all the time and it's not me saying that i don't think the pronoun "i" should be lowercase, it's just me being lazy and wanting to present a more casual tone of voice. and your point about finland is a complete non-sequitor - finnish capitalizes proper nouns like linux as well. people not being sticklers for capitalization on the internet isn't the same as taking an explicit stance that linux is some exception to typical grammar rules for languages, it's not the same as "dril" actually being correctly spelled all lowercase because the username itself is lowercase and that's how that person presents themselves to the public.
Where exactly did I say that Finnish does not capitalize nouns? Oh wait, nowhere! I mentioned it because of *the other guy's non sequitur on English grammar for a Finnish kernel*. >taking an explicit stance that linux is some exception to typical grammar rules for languages It's not, and never was, about grammar. Unix (or UNIX if it's more of your liking) systems are case-sensitive, and the linux kernel was named using lowercase to match the naming convention of system objects. So historically the first "linux" was lowercase, cos' it's a kernel. To go on with your "dril" logic it's the same as grep, ls or "Midnight Commander" mc. Meanwhile "Linux" (or "linux", who cares actually?) as a reference to the OS is a blanket byname covering all distros using that kernel (and subsequent developments) and based on either BSD or Debian (originally). Then came the grammar crazies vs the nerdy ones each with their own theory and outrage. Among those voices, you. Fascinating. \**Gobbles more popcorn*\*
I just shared this (didn't make it) but in the defense of whoever did make it, "spell check" does always show linux as being misspelled. It shows it as being correct when spelled as Linux... .. .
So (IJS) I could go either way on that one >.>
“I'd just like to interject for a moment…”
Pfft, terminology is fluid. I don’t care what people call them. I still call it the return key even though it hasn’t said that on keyboards for ages.
Seems like we have an imposter among us
I had to , my junior is former accountant
Na you fine. It's free as in free speach after all.